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Is the daytime ban on eating and intimacy in Ramadan stated in the Quran or inferred?

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Reading 2:187 in full: mafhum al-mukhalafa, a hypothetical Quranist, and verses that need the tradition

DiscussionRecorded 18 Oct 2025MindTrap with Mufti Abu Layth Segment 22 of 32 in the recording2025-10-18-S22

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The daytime prohibition of eating and intimacy in Ramadan comes from 2:187 by mafhum al-mukhalafa, an adverse inference Mufti Abu Layth accepts but which is not the explicit reading, so some verses need the tradition's explanation; the guest says each reader is rewarded according to his understanding.

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The guest reads 2:187, that it is lawful on the night of the fast to approach one's wives and to eat and drink until the white thread of dawn, then to complete the fast until night, and asks whether Mufti Abu Layth honestly thinks it allows intercourse by day. Mufti says he is not saying that; the verse does not state the daytime prohibition, so the guest is using reason to complete it. He explains that in usul al-fiqh this is mafhum al-mukhalafa, the adverse judgment, a fifth category of textual indication that some accept and some do not, distinct from the explicit wording and the other indications; he accepts it himself, but it is not the explicit reading. He proposes a hypothetical: another Quranist reads the verse as not prohibiting intercourse by day. The guest says he could, and that everyone will present to God what he built: a five-minute prayer earns a five-minute reward, an incorrect understanding has its consequence and a better one its reward, which is how the Book is a living book. Asked what he would say to such a reader, Mufti says he would call it wrong because he believes in the Islamic tradition, which taught otherwise; the guest says Mufti thereby admits the verse is sufficient and that the problem lies in the reader. Mufti says his argument is that some verses, not all, require explanation by the people of the tradition who studied it, with whom one need not always agree but who set out rules.

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