Do Quranists accept any Sunnah of the Prophet?

And uh of course for us the book of God is the shortcut to the guidance that can be achieved without the book of God. But God's mercy is telling us the answer and it's coupled by uh people's understanding and people's opinion. So that's >> sure. So just to yeah to kind of get in there that that I this this view this understanding that the Quran is central.

Um I absolutely agree with that that is the teaching of the school of Medina that is in principle the school the teaching of many um Muslims and scholars in Islam. And some may disagree. I accept that. But I'm not here trying to defend that view that where some may disagree. The school of Medina, the school of um which is Imam Malik, the school of Imam Abuhanifh in principle too is that the Quran is always central and other principles or other um guidances always orbit that almost like a solar system.

And this was the analogy I gave last week in saying that the Quran is the sun and these and then you may have planets and planets may have moons and things like this. Now that's so the authority and the principle being the Quran the central that's uh you know a there's no dispute on that. So I totally wholeheartedly um you know commend you on that principle and agree with you that the Quran is always there's primacy for the Quran.

But I want to ask you that okay so you're saying in principle the uh the hadith are you distinguishing between hadith and sunnah or not at all? >> Our definition of sunnah is a little bit different than how people approach what the word sunnah means. So for us there's two types of sunnas in the Quran. The the traditions of the people who has be passed before which is what God is guiding the blessed prophet.

And then the other sunnah that we're aware of is which is the tradition of God and how God deals with his subjects and his servants and how he deals with the disbelievers. This we're in agreement >> in reg. Yeah. So there's no I mean you know what we're talking about when you're saying the sunnah the sunnah of the prophet. >> So so there is not a specific sunnah for the prophet that we have to follow that is outlined in the Quran. What we have is so lessons and what god has told us about the lessons of the other prophets including >> that stuff we don't dispute.

That stuff we don't dispute. So there's no point going into that because we agree on all of that. The lessons in the Quran are universal and we agree on all of that >> and that's the limits of prophet Muhammad to us. >> Do you feel that the prophet was do you feel that the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam was teaching giving guidance do you feel that he was doing this as well? Was he elaborating on the Quran?

>> Yes, he was definitely elaborating and clarifying the Quran to the people around him. We don't accept that not valuable to us as Muslims. >> It hasn't been preserved and whatever he's been teaching, he was guided by God and God is guiding you in the same manner. We don't have to express the Quran in the same way the blessed prophet did because the times have changed. So the way that the prophet lived his sunnah, he wouldn't have lived in the same manner now because times have evolved.

If it was something that was necessary for religion, then God would have preserved it. The fact that it's not preserved, it shows that this is the test. Is the word of God sufficient for you or do you need to be spoonfed? Now you you told me about the Quran centric approach which is true. Everybody claims that the Quran is the Trump and the Quran is the negating the bad hadith and all this. But when we see in practice, we don't see that that's the case. They they in fact they they they go off what the tradition and the uh the history is saying.

>> Sure. But clear versus they don't care. >> You see, but let's not strawman other people either. So I or let's not pick on bad examples because you know we can do that with everybody. I want this case to see whether there is a case to be made here that you're presenting and that is that there is if I've understood this correctly. What you're saying is that there is no that the prophet did give guidance in addition to the Quran.

>> I take it that's what you're saying. But that guidance today is are you saying it's irrelevant? Are you saying it's inv it's not valuable at all? Um are you saying it's it would have been valuable if it reached us? >> The guidance that is coming out of the messenger. Okay, that is for all the people which we find in the Quran because he's using the message that God has given him. The guidance that comes out of the prophet that's localized to his people.

So this is where is the difference between a prophet and a messenger. Now, when you're talking about this clarification, >> this when you're talking about the clarification of the Quran, >> this is not when we see these things that you assume that the prophet said, we find it wholeheartedly denying the Quran. So, we >> just to just to build on what you're saying, if you're arguing that there is guidance in the Quran to do with how other prophets advised and spent their time with their people.