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Riba and Ibn Abbas: his disagreement on riba and his combining of prayers
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machinesummary, machine-writtenIbn Abbas is reported as holding that riba lies only in delayed exchange and as combining prayers without travel or fear, which one speaker uses to show that labelling a view easy or liberal is not an argument.
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One speaker, apparently Mufti Abu Layth [?], sketches how riba is broken down, as an increase in an exchange such as two kilos of dates for one, or a delay in which something is taken later, with an exception made for money, and says Ibn Abbas held that riba was only in the delayed transaction, disagreeing with the vast majority: exchanging one kilo of wheat for two on the spot would be fine as long as there was no delay. He says Ibn Abbas disagreed on many other matters, including salah, and recounts a report in Sahih Muslim in which Ibn Abbas was giving a speech, the time for a prayer passed, someone stood up to object, and he carried on, then combined the prayers and said the Prophet had combined without fear and without travel, adding that he did not want his address cut short. The speaker says this is the student of the Prophet, not just anybody, and that by the standard of today's labels people would dismiss him. The segment ends as he turns this into a point about method.
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you look at the the says that whenever the prophet fa two issues you know he always went with EAS if they say no no we don't mean by that we mean holding on to tradition well this is tradition like would you say you know like people like this is why I presented I said if you take your labels like this and look at sahab like with his descent and things like RBA and so on and and it's know his the point is people would just I don't know tell me okay well I mean I mean obviously is uh it's got many permutations here but they but they
look at it briefly they say that when they when they're breaking it down they say there's problem where you are kind of like um kind of like increasing so I say you know like I tell you what Give Me 2 kilos of date for 1 Kil of date and swap like that um or rib where this there's a delay like so I give you something but I'm going to take something after a while yeah so there's like a I don't know if if you want to consider a prepaid payment or but especially they make an ex exception for money and in all other things so let's say dates once again as typical examples they use back then so said that there was no R in like it
was only in and he disagreed entirely with every vast majority of everybody on that me an example so he said like if like so if somebody was to say look here's one kilo of wheat I want 2 kilos of wheat from you so one k he said well that's well that's fine as long as there isn't a delay like if we were transacting here that would because yeah so so this is so he says that this is just like in front of he says that only when there's a delay it triggers now now this is an example now
that would be considered I mean I I don't want to sound very controversial but obviously his disagreement in his disagreement in in so many things for example in Salah like or you do want [Laughter] to I tell you something really interesting one and this one is really in Muslim when is given a speech talking people and the time for is gone and somebody gets up and says time for is gone what the hell what you doing we should be praying you should be leading Us in Salah like pray Salah what you doing and and and he just
hears him and then just carries on and they finish and he combines the pra and he he says that the prophet he says the prophet Sall wasallam he combined without hope when there was no hope when there was no suffer and then just in case some people interpret that this was rain and whatever but okay different but he ends it he carries on he
says he wanted his not to be incomplete that meaning like this is who this is the student of the prophet it's not just anybody you know it's not so but by this but by this standard people would just say oh that's and this is my point that you see we don't have that discourse we have a discourse we Bas it on is the was this the understanding in the Quran was it in the Sunnah was this what the sah do they have this and they may have had a difference it's not about just because it sounds easier let's dismiss it by putting a label on it and just taking it out the you know just knock it off the table because we just
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Mufti Abu Layth. (2016, March 15). Riba and Ibn Abbas: his disagreement on riba and his combining of prayers [Video, segment 2016-03-15-S04, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zbya7rqfyru/s/4/
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Mufti Abu Layth. 2016. "Riba and Ibn Abbas: his disagreement on riba and his combining of prayers." Video, segment 2016-03-15-S04, auto-transcribed, may contain errors. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Recorded March 15, 2016. Accessed November 1, 2026. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zbya7rqfyru/s/4/
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@misc{abulayth-2016-03-15-S04, author = {Mufti Abu Layth}, title = {{Riba and Ibn Abbas: his disagreement on riba and his combining of prayers}}, year = {2016}, month = {3}, date = {2016-03-15}, howpublished = {\url{https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zbya7rqfyru/s/4/}}, url = {https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zbya7rqfyru/s/4/}, organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive}, urldate = {2026-11-01}, note = {Segment 2016-03-15-S04, auto-transcribed, may contain errors} }
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