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Did the Prophet really spy on a boy he thought was the Dajjal?

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Ibn Sayyad and the Dajjal reports: spying, swelling and contradictory locations

LessonRecorded 6 Apr 2021Monday Nights with Mufti Abu LaythSegment 26 of 39 in the recording2021-04-06-S26

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The Ibn Sayyad and Dajjal reports are absurd and insult the Prophet's dignity, and their contradictory accounts of who and where the Dajjal is show they are not revelation.

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Mufti Abu Layth links the return of Jesus to the Dajjal and goes through reports he finds insulting. In one, which he says is in Sahih Muslim with a variant in Bukhari, the Prophet, suspecting the boy Ibn Sayyad of being the Dajjal, hides behind palm trees to overhear him, until the boy's mother warns him and the Prophet says that had she not, they would have found out; Mufti says this is not how a prophet with revelation and a dignified character behaved. He describes a Sahih Muslim report in which, as he tells it, Umar angers Ibn Sayyad, who swells until he fills the street, and another in which the Prophet tests the boy by hiding Surat al-Dukhan in his mind and Ibn Sayyad answers 'dukh'. He sets these against reports that the Dajjal cannot enter Madinah, that he was a chained giant on an island met by Tamim al-Dari, which Mufti calls fabricated, and that he will come from the east, from Iraq, from Isfahan or perhaps from Yemen, and asks how revelation can give so many different answers. He then turns to Qadhi's claim that admitting anything crept into Islam would rip out its foundations.

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Mufti Abu Layth says the reports in which the Prophet spies on the child Ibn Sayyad suspecting him to be the Dajjal, and related reports in Sahih Muslim and Bukhari, are absurd and insulting to the Prophet's dignity, and that their contradictory accounts of the Dajjal's identity and location show they are not revelation.

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“The prophet had an immensely dignified character. He didn't used to run around hiding behind trees, spying on children”

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2:30:41

Right now speaking of certain beliefs creeping in I want you to pay attention people. You see this whole thing of Jesus is linked pretty much with the antichrist. Okay? Because this is what people think. People think Jesus is coming back to obviously establish the kingdom of God on earth but to also wipe out the antichrist.

2:31:09

Now look at the hadith we have that have are do you really believe this stuff? There are hadith that the prophet apparently believes that this this Jewish child whose name is people say his full name is Safi Sayad. This guy Safi orn say he's known as was a child when they say he was a child when the prophet had moved to Medina.

2:31:39

He was a little kid. So at this time he might have been what let's say apparently uh years have passed because the prophet lives in Medina for several years. So he might have at this stage been 11 I don't know let's say because this couldn't have been in the final year of the prophet but even if you move forward a few years maybe he was 10 by this stage um they say he was a wad when you know very small child when prophet moved to Medina.

2:32:08

So even if you add on 5 years, 6 years, seven, you know, like he's probably around 10 or something. So you've got this hadith that the prophet would then what one he got it wrong because the prophet was for a while he was h had very strong inclinations doubt that this child is the antichrist.

2:32:30

So then okay if he is what then? Well, as you can see in this hadith, the the prophet then goes to spy on him. And look at the narrations once again. These same people you have that that he was quoting for the other hadith. You'll have this from Jabirn.

2:32:53

You'll have this from um Omar. you know these same narrations you're going to have that here the prophet is going look and you can read the thing uh that he was he's kind of like trying to hide uh between the trees the prophet is and and he's kind of deceptively and I'll bring up the definition as well deceptively spying on um trying to hear this little child who's around 10 or 11 or whatever, but he's a kid.

2:33:28

He's a kid. Uh without trying to hope that can't spot him. And he says that in the hadith. He says, "So he sees the prophet sees him lying in this kind of like a he's got this little blanket it mentions and he's lying down. So the prophet is spying on him and he says some people read this as some people read it as different but they translate it as he's kind of he's muttering utterances but they like he's mumbling something saying but you can't it's not clear what he's saying.

2:34:06

So the prophet's trying to spy on him and he's going between trees and he's hiding and he's trying to spy on this child. And why? Because this child the prophet thinks is the antichrist. But the his mother say's mother sees the prophet spying and hiding behind trees and he's running and he's trying to tiptoe close to uh and then um and he says look and his mother saw him and he's hiding behind these kind of palm trees.

2:34:43

the prophet is and the mother sees him and she says because his name was that's what they say um Muhammad she says look this is Muhammad he's there uh so the pro prophet says so he catches the prophet out so he's like oh prophet's point so the prophet says you know if only she hadn't warned him you know we would have found out today if he was the antichrist The prophet's getting caught out spying on a child uh who he's very uh you know he's got a good hunch according to this

2:35:23

that this person is the antichrist a kid living in Medina. Okay. I mean where is revelation? Is this how you know prophets behave? Is this not insulting to the character and the honor of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam? Do you see this kind of behavior in any other hadith? This is how the prophet used to go around.

2:35:49

The prophet had an immensely dignified character. He didn't used to run around hiding behind trees, spying on children, trying to, oh, I bet that kid's the antichrist. I'm going to find out. Is this not absurd? And this is a hadith in Sah Muslim and you have its variation in Bkari right? So now now there you can see the definition look this is from the commentaries and they mention he's trying to deceive to deceptively spy on means which was the word used in the hadith

2:36:30

that he's trying to deceptively hide and spy on him so he can hear what he's saying. Uh right. So he him and the companions can know. Okay. This is although this is the prophet who has revelation. Now you have here now check this out. This is another very fascinating narration. You've got here once again this is in Sahi Muslim.

2:36:59

uh Omar is walking down the road one day and according to this narration and these are insulting honestly these hadith insult the tradition of Islam the personalities of Islam they insult the prophet they insult the companions according to this narration Omar is walking down as you can see look so he sees then he says something which makes him angry Okay.

2:37:32

So, he started to blow up as in like started to kind of like first of all is to get kind of like full and bloat and but he started to get so big so big until he the whole road the whole street he had filled out the whole street.

2:37:56

This is whobad. Right? So this is in Sah Muslim. I'm not making this up. This is in Sah Muslim. Look, you can read the text there until he he was as large as the whole street. He's kind of like and so he obviously Omar according to this legs it like he he escapes anyway.

2:38:21

He get he gets away. uh he goes to his sister and he says to her so she finds out and she says that uh like uh or here they call him as well but what you know what why were you doing that to say don't you know the prophet said don't you know the prophet said that the antichrist will emerge emerge from him allegedly from Sayyad how by when he's enraged with anger he will become this this huge

2:38:59

kind of antichrist. Now this is the hadith in Sah Muslim and this these are the same you know narrators that they're saying and these are the same people that that they're using to transmit the second coming. is this like how crazy is this that you've got this you know big person this sorry this person who's now he's not a kid anymore obviously inn Omar's time this is after the prophet he's now become a man but he turns into the incredible Hulk when you make him angry he gets so big he fills out the whole street

2:39:37

and and this was meant to be the antichrist by the way because according to that don't you know the prophet said that this is going to this he's going to turn into the antichrist when he gets angry and the prophet doesn't know this of course because the prophet thinks he's the antichrist spies on him hides behind trees but can never really get him and in one narration in Bkari as well that the prophet goes to him says okay go on then tell me what am I thinking tell me tell me and he's still a kid by the way at that point because in the prophet's lifetime he was just a child so he must have been what like let's say because the prophet lives in Medina what 10 years when the prophet comes he's already a child and this couldn't have been in the final years

2:40:16

cuz it speaks about with surah dan which is actually very early but the point is even if you give it 5 years so he was what like I don't know if you say he was a a toddler an infant when the prophet came so he's what even if he's eight nine I tell you what give him a few extra years let's say he's even 10 now he couldn't have been 10 but let's just say he's 10 so the prophet is going to him and testing him okay I've got something go on then do you believe in me?

2:40:44

What am I hiding in my in my mind? And then he says, "Well, you know, you're hiding uh you know, you're hiding uh d." And the prophet says, "Ah, you know, [laughter] you're a sorcerer. You know, he's a sorcerer. Why? Because I was hiding surah dan." I mean, is this how the prophet interacted with people? Is this how the prophet, oh, I'm going to catch out this kid who is what?

2:41:11

The antichrist. And I thought the prophet said the the antichrist can't enter Medina. And I thought the the there's a hadith in Sah Muslim that the antichrist was already a grown beast that was hidden on an island with jasa with tamar he gets shipwrecked and then he lands on that island and meets him and he meets him and comes back and tells the prophet that's in Sah Muslim isn't it and the prophet describes he says oh I des he was tied up in chains he was this huge kind of uh beast of a man and he was there and and he he said has a person emerged in Arabia who claims to be a

2:41:50

prophet etc etc which is a fabricated hadith of course but the point is that the does that not exist but here the prophet's prom you know maybe it's who's in Medina and in another hadith oh no that the jal is going to come from where he's going to come from the east east he's going to come from the east okay in another hadith no he's going to come from Iraq no in another hadith he's going to come from [laughter] remember Abu Alisi who got dissed by the Asbahan people.

2:42:20

Oh, he's going to come from uh Asbahan. Asbahan Shabash. Shabash. In another hadith, I think is the I think there's one about Yemen or something as well. How do you I mean this is revelation, isn't it? The prophet's not just guessing. Is the prophet just guessing? It's meant to be revelation. What's up with all the the different, you know, the angles going on? Is this not insulting to the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam?

2:42:46

that this you know this is this person. So these are some of the examples I'm just putting before you guys to kind of think about that look well you know this and these are the this is what Jesus is coming to kill although some of the narrations now you know when it comes to folklore beliefs having crept in

2:43:14

you're doing it you're doing it right so what he says is that uh how to claim that anything could have crept into Islam would have basically just ripped out the foundations of Islam. [laughter] I don't know how that opened there. One moment. Let me just Right. So he he says that to claim that would mean that you would Right.

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Mufti Abu Layth. (2021, April 6). Did the Prophet really spy on a boy he thought was the Dajjal? [Video, segment 2021-04-06-S26, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zz85auzek5w/s/26/
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