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Are the signs of the Hour part of Islamic creed?
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machinesummary, machine-writtenOne can be a Maliki and doubt these reports: Ibn Ashur, Shaykh al-Islam of the Malikis, classed the signs of the Hour as information rather than creed, and Imam Ahmad said the malahim reports have no foundation.
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Mufti Abu Layth reads from Ibn Ashur, who says faith returns to three things, creed, actions and etiquette, and that beliefs about the Mahdi and the signs of the end of time, including the coming of Jesus and the sun rising from the west, fall under none of them but are Islamic information for academic pursuit. As Mufti presents it, Ibn Ashur says people mistakenly placed them under creed because they are not actions, that only the Quran reaches the level of certainty, and that such reports, the Mahdi among them, crept into Sunni Islam from weak and unacceptable hadith. He then cites Imam Ahmad's statement that three things have no foundation, the maghazi, the tafsir attributed to the early generations and the malahim, the apocalyptic battles, while noting that some say Ahmad meant something else. He concludes that one can not only be a Maliki and hold this but be Shaykh al-Islam of the Malikis, and briefly recalls the report of a fluid from beneath the Throne that he discussed previously; a part of Qadhi's clip is replayed.
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I mean he was the don Maliki of the 20th century. There was no Maliki that could stand to him in the entire last 20th century. I mean he was a giant. And you have this book of his you know and you can see this obviously by the legend and people don't like you know what it is because he is so widely respected and this is some extract from it.
You can see that the he highlights here he's speaking about the mai specifically but he also speaks about all of the uh other issues about the end of time as well. He says look the faith's foundations they return to three key aspects. He says he says he says he says that look faith ultimately returns to these three broad things of creed of rituals or actions and
etiquets. He says these beliefs such as the mahi or this kind of stuff and he'll he'll mention as well the ash in a moment. He says they don't fall under any of them. He says this is simply an academic pursuit. And you can see on the next page he mentions there. He says he says this is simply to do with Islamic information.
People who pursue academic information about Islam may investigate these matters that was it said was it not said and he mentions here look also matters I underlined it a the entire aat of the all these signs to do with the end of time the coming of Jesus the uh all the the sun rising all this stuff he says that these are just academic pursuits they're not uh as you can see it's not a point of creed.
He mentions that and he says that he says that look the reason this became confusing for certain people is because they thought well isn't this this is not an actionable act like it's it's information therefore it must be a belief and they put it under creed and he says that that was a clear mistake This is not a matter of creed.
This is simply information whether it's attributed to the prophet or not. the section at the bottom as you can see. Um right when I right he highlights at the bottom there just to show you there right it's got a I know it's got ah right I have to take that back you can see there he highlights at the bottom he says what that so he mentions here about the being he says that we don't have anything
other than the Quran that is and he says our have said that because it's impossible to have people having transmitted in such a way all the way that it would reach such certainty. these are, you know, they just that's just a a blackging statement.
And he goes on to highlight that look really you won't find actually uh caught up in these issues or in or being so preoccupied by them. And he goes on to highlight possible scenarios of how these things crept into Sunni Islam. And he uses the Mai thing here as an example. And he highlights here as well look how and he mentions look there's all these things to do with bunny and other things and how they crept into Islam and he gives a whole and this is available in his and you can see here look he
mentions what about the hadith that have come here and he says uh he says obviously look the mi doesn't this hadith It isn't even in vaguely they kind of attribute it to but yet the scholars claim it's they claim it's on they claim all these broad claims about this rightly guided figure that is supposed to be uh welcoming Jesus when he comes and he says that these things clearly
this is from weak unacceptable hadith as As you can see this is who the dawn theh of the Malikia and you can see here look I im Ahmed and now this is an interesting statement from Imam Ahmed where he says three things have no foundation in Islam at all they're just fabrications along the way or people have taken a bit here there mixed it together and made something and he says alazi the battles of the prophet most of them were kind of invented and he says the taps of the
Quran that's attributed to classical like Sahabah etc is mostly made up and malahim you know these apocalyptic battles the Armageddon and stuff like this that will go down at the end of time these things are just made up and you've got that and the but this now people will say no Imm Ahmed never meant this he meant something else but how the question how Can one be Maliki?
They can not only be Maliki, they can be the Islam of the Malikia and people will say, "Oh, you know, only the Malah and the philosophers and theis and these people uh will believe this and and we've already taken a look at this, so I won't go over this part." highlighting the absurdity of each. I went through that previously and that should if it's not a clip already, it will be made a clip very soon and I showed that that there was forget that there wasn't even in the other [laughter] that's sorry that's that make it rain
hadith of the sperm bank. But the point is that this matter being indisputable, this being an indisputable and one has to you know be academic you know sorry let's take an academic look. Let's remove ourselves from the emotional back and forth and live by the monarchy ab
[music] [music] you're doing it. You're doing it. But this is uh this is some of the points that just to highlight and because there was so much in this to unpack we have to kind of spread it out really because it just it gets so overwhelming but that's already a huge amount like the sahi hadith these other hadith the absurdities the sperm bank under God's throne the thing of Abu Dali all of a sudden he realizes you know people hate
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