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Do obscene or blasphemous thoughts during prayer ruin my salah?

wudhu wudoo wuzu ablution al-wudu wudhoo salaah namaz salaat namaaz as-salah al-salah salawat hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis hadees ahaadith rukoo bowing muftis imaan eemaan eeman djinn jin jinnat jinni koran quraan al-quran surah sura soorah suwar soora chapter ayah aya ayat ayaat aayah aayat sahabah sahaba sahabi sahabiyyah sahabiyat ibadah ibada ibaadah ibadat

Intrusive and blasphemous thoughts in prayer, and what the jinn are

DiscussionRecorded 26 Apr 2021MindTrap with Mufti Abu LaythSegment 17 of 27 in the recording2021-04-26-S17

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Intrusive or blasphemous thoughts in prayer are not a reason to worry: noticing them is a sign of faith, as a hadith says. Mufti Abu Layth adds that jinn in the Quran means the unseen and possession stories are folklore.

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The guest asks Mufti Abu Layth about his salah: he says he once had to overcome being obsessive about wudu and the number of times he did things, and now obscene words or blasphemous thoughts come into his mind while he prays correctly, so that he feels he is not present, wants to start over, and even questions reciting Surat al-Nas because he does not believe in jinn. Mufti says that the fact he is conscientiously checking himself is the greatest sign it is not something to worry about, citing a hadith in which companions said they had thoughts too horrendous to express and the Prophet called that pure faith. He says that the word jinn in the Quran just means the unseen, that the popular idea of demons possessing people is folklore passed down the generations, and that questioning such things shows an interactive relationship with the text. He advises not being hard on oneself and dispelling such thoughts, noting that many people ask him about this, including OCD with wudu.

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real talk you know i asked you interesting questions from time to time right of course i think about i'm making salat right um and for me salat has always been about a reduction of eliminating certain distractions you know putting myself in a position to be you know pure in that moment for that period of time that i'm in that right and so i got at one point i was voodoo obsessive okay right and i had to find a way to kind of come down from right okay um to minimize it again reduction right it's not it's not that important if you got if you just didn't do the ear just keep

1:29:32

keep going right um then it became you know uh ruku like okay am i hitting ollie did i bow three times or what's that two did i wonder that right you kind of figure out a way to do that and then what pops up is clarity of mind right and obscenities and my mind is thinking did i just say fu in my head and if i said fu in my head do i have to start over like go out is this ruined right or like and i find myself in certain cases like yep i got to do this over like my mind is way too obscene um but i'm speaking you know the prayer

1:30:12

correctly i'm reciting the verses correctly i'm going through the movements correctly but my mind is a circus right and it becomes like i feel like i'm not really present and i'm doing god a disservice even though i know he don't need these prayers yeah i at least want to be present in these prayers and even if um if i'm thinking about mcdonald's and thinking about other crazy stuff cool but if i'm thinking about like obscene things or obscene words or obscene gestures or even certain blasphemies kind of pop up from time to time it's like i don't really believe this you know because i don't really believe in gin i'm gonna just put that out there i don't believe in them um and so when i get to

1:30:50

when i'm saying surotunas yeah and i get to uh uh do not i'm like you don't really believe in that why are we saying that it's like shut up you know come back to you to make it real right it becomes this man i want to start over like i want to reset do this again because i don't feel like this is acceptable you know and like where do we sit and when we come into contact with those type of things throughout our day right those type of

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moral decisions yeah right personally by yourself praying and you're thinking like this isn't good enough or i'm being immoral in this action even though i'm fully praying um of course of course the fact that you're even conscientiously kind of self-checking yourself is the greatest you know tell it is it is the it is the greatest sign that this is that it's it's that it's not something you need to kind of worry about or get kind of um i mean like you said i could find myself

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almost going into this ocd level obsessive kind of like you know like oh my god like maybe why am i having these thoughts why am i you know did i just swear did i just think of something blasphemous did i think of something in fact there's actually a hadith yeah in this hadith the companions they ask the prophet these very words they actually say that uh when one of us is praying like when we're praying we have such thoughts

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that is so like uh that we we don't dare express them to you because they are that horrendous and obscene and blasphemous and the prophet sallallahu alaihi sallam's reply was that he said that that is the the pristine level of faith because the fact that you see it's it's only human to have thoughts you know and the fact that you're going into something your mind is going to you know sometimes it will kind of have these pop-ups like it'll be like oh what's this what's that

1:33:16

you mentioned about look you know certain concepts about islam or let's say the quran or certain meanings like the jinn now nobody knows what that means you know this kind of understanding that people have that are their demons this is just an understanding that people have kind of just just kind of put together as a concept that's kind of become popular the jinn in the in the actual quran the word jinn just means the unseen that's all it actually means now people have gone on to say well oh you know like oh well in another verse allah said something about oh the essence being from fire and the essence being from

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but that doesn't mean they are how people conceptualize them to be these kind of demons and things like it could whether it refers to forces whether it refers to just entities that are invisible as in just invisible stuff that has how it operates in the cosmos we don't understand but it doesn't you know the way people understand it like these kind of like i don't know these devils walking around with i don't know possessing possessing people and and doing all that this is this is just folklore it's just kind of stories which people have just kind of passed down from generation to generation but you questioning these kind of things

1:34:35

it is to me it demonstrates an interactive relationship with the actual text with the actual scripture with the actual worship like you're not you see you see it's ironic that you said well i'm kind of i'm not present but actually you are present because your act the fact that you're even kind of you're becoming conscientious of thought is is is to be very present now i understand you you want to go to a state of being mindful this mindfulness of kind of serenity and you know this kind of like i i want clarity of thoughts

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but obviously that that is the journey that's going to that's that's the man at the top of the hill don't just land there he had to he had to climb up but but i wouldn't i wouldn't kind of feel that um i wouldn't be hard on myself i wouldn't be kind of like for thinking you know why am i having these thoughts just just dispel them the fact that you have these thoughts the hadith says that that is iman that is an uh a reflection of faith that you're having that but yeah but i you know it's it's amazing because a lot of people

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can you know this it's actually so common you know i get asked this by so many people as well about this very similar uh you know whether it's thoughts whether it's ocd with wudu like you mentioned previously and getting caught up on that and and it can just rob the spirit of that of what it means for that person yeah so um yeah man don't don't sweat that at all any any fair you feel free [Laughter]

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what the [ __ ] you know speaking of um you you were saying all these messages you're saying your journey you're saying these things do you feel though lupe people who are younger today do you feel they've got it more difficult in terms of what in terms of this existential kind of crisis of you know this because there is this kind of existential crisis going around and people are you know like like you said like what is my purpose what is what am i doing here is it just nothing is it

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Mufti Abu Layth. (2021, April 26). Do obscene or blasphemous thoughts during prayer ruin my salah? [Video, segment 2021-04-26-S17, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/oyiipehuiha/s/17/
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  title = {{Do obscene or blasphemous thoughts during prayer ruin my salah?}},
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  date = {2021-04-26},
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  organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive},
  urldate = {2026-11-01},
  note = {Segment 2021-04-26-S17, auto-transcribed, may contain errors}
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