Is Omar Suleiman trained as a scholar, and will anyone debate Mufti Abu Layth on jinn possession?

[Music] and then it's like oh well you know she's lost her virginity and then basically it was happy families after that so this is the kind of nonsense people and i was very disappointed to see sheikh umar suleiman promoting this kind of nonsense but then it is what it is and you know with uh teaching where the market is it supports uh it supports that and i tell you these people can i'm asking you know what i will accept from any of these shares if they want a dialogue they want to debate on it agile come on

my mind trap any of them the shares on this topic challenge this is a challenge you know the challenge i offered the chilean they cannot prove it it is utterly against the quran utterly against the sunnah right so i remember years ago i i've had several debates with people on this people thinking that they're gonna ah run rings but there's a ring no easy you know this one is you know so anyway omar suleiman as well you know what look i like omar suleiman but i'm being honest with you

i say this about people and people probably thinking you know mufti why you being a hater i'm not being a hater i'm just being honest you know the truth is people like sheikh umar suleiman are not really that educated as sure they're not actually trained as scholars in islam they just get that title like they do they probably like you know you have a status like khatib like a preacher status where you've done a certain amount like you've studied islam let's say for about two years you've done a few things learned a few hadith you can preach and give nice sermons

and that that's the kind of status of people like shaykh umar salehman now i'm not saying that to hate on him i'm saying look he's done great work in human rights in america he's kind of protested he's kind of shown that islam cares about civil rights and i think that's amazing but in islam he is significantly under-trained he is not trained to be giving rulings on like fatah he would not be trained he would not i'm not i don't mean this in a rude way but he wouldn't even be familiar with what books of fatawa are he would not even know their names he wouldn't he's not trained like he's not

been to an islamic institute and you'll find that with many of these imams they're not actually trained they've just got a status he has done some amazing things on the civil rights and social justice and stuff like that and i commend that but it doesn't mean because he he stands up for let's say human rights or that means he's is an expert on hadith or he's an expert on the quran he's not at all and so you have to be weary people i know when you look at me you obviously see he's saying look at this guy

[Laughter] just look at him look at the way he's dressed look at his bloody necklace and his earring and this guy what could he know but when i pull rank see the irony is out of all of these i'm the only one who's actually trained because i mean i mean there are other scholars as well who are trained but what i'm saying is many of these people are not actually trained as scholars and they're definitely not mufti's so yeah but anyway moving on so that was

sheikh umar suleiman's arguments presented were in essence they were a bit like this [Laughter] that's that's how they actually were but so cool people i just wanted to uh put that out there right let's um

i don't know what those questions are something about the cia i've got no idea what the hell you're writing about danny boy danny why what is danny boy saying that was basically the argument right i think