Did some Muslim scholars say homosexuality is not haram?

from your side you're not disagree what I have to do with that their choice yeah so now what you're saying is you have lgbtq let's say I don't know what the like rallies or or you have rights or whatever so people like Sheik omaran uh are are are supporting those people or they're supporting that movement they're not condemning they're not being outspoken against these things this is the the issue can I ask first of all okay we'll come to some Islamic side in a

moment do you feel that what is the insecurity about this I'm just trying to understand that what what what disturbs you about this if something is Haram in Islam according to Quran how can you promote the agenda of that FNA into to your own Community by joining hands with the people who are promoting it K the people who did that act man with men it's totally prohibited in Quran I know you disagree no no wait no wait wait actually let's start on that why do you say I disagree what if I said because mu

I saw a few videos I'm not sure if you changed your perspective on what did you see say say what you saw because I don't know you referred to some uh uh sources of Muslim history were yeah Abid I think or just yeah so just I'm yes of course so did so when I gave references of some Muslim Scholars who said homosexuality was permissible did I say that I believe it to be permissible but no I didn't I don't remember that you said that you just no but you just said I know you

disagree so so I'm curious when you said that uh I know you disagree on this where did you hear me disagree in in that in that video which I saw of you where I said some people disagreed you're so okay so I so if I say to you some people have said it's some Muslims like Isis have said maybe maybe no no you're right you're right wrong perception of your uh no I said no I'll tell you what I said in the thing I said I gave a history of and a

diverse perspective I said there are they were in a minority this is who they were they said homosexuality was not Haram this is who they were and so on some people try to challenge this but it's there in the books and let's you know let's just be honest like a lot of the AMA of not a lot but there were several AMA from Islam who were bisexual I mean it's very clear in their books they make all this Iam's book is full of it all these other it's it's very clear their own they'll speak of sexual Tendencies they'll speak of when they fascin and I mention a history now I'm not saying I'm notur I'll take my words back I apologize maybe I got the wrong

perception of you right so then I did say that look some people if they do follow that let's say some people do follow it they say okay this person said it like at the end of the day I said look it's not our job to police people you could say look I disagree with you actually said look you could say I believe this is Haram that's your view they might say look I don't believe it's Haram okay it's their view you might say your view is wrong but this is all part of the discussion that has happened in Islamic history whether we like it or not we could say look the majority have said it's Haram and a minority of people

have either been very ambivalent on the matter and some have said it's not Haram but the difference is when people are going to say well see because that the point of that discussion when I made the video was saying that people were uh they were persecuting certain people who obviously especially Muslim uh homosexuals and I said well this thing is utterly unacceptable and if you look at the Islamic history there is a diverse history whe whether you like it or not you know you can pretend it doesn't exist there but then that's that's a person saying look I or I pretend let's be honest most of you know

you you name me a schol almost okay that's a bit of a stretch but most Scholars from every SE most or many right if you've studied Islamic literature many countless Scholars of Islam uh they they appreciated bisexuality so they they clearly had an appreciation for it they whether they practiced it or not it's difficult because we most of them won't talk about their private lives but they will write in their poetry praising how beautiful certain boys are how SE attractive they are how they want to kiss them how they want to do all these things all of them I don't know if you read Arabic and you

read these uh poems clearly they just read is full of it he'll talk about I witness this the IM he mentions the IM son in his time he mentions all these people in you you pick up any you pick up the books I I quoted the poem from I quoted Imam noi think people got upset they misunderstood what I was saying I was saying look Imam noi in his fatwa says everybody knows uh that boys he says many boys are far more beautiful and attractive to men than women and I was like I I I don't relate at all to what he's saying but this clearly he's

saying this he's acknowledging a bisexual tendency but it doesn't mean now he's saying he's gay like people are saying oh my God this is an insult I never said that so people obviously are going off their own way but look look okay let's let's kind of reel this back what are the insecurities that people have like what do you feel is uh what bothers you I get it you're saying that these people like omaran is a she now but what's the insecurity do you feel more people are becoming gay because of

omaran not only sh om suan the agenda which is being promoted within our society Muslim Society through different things not only through she Omar suan through media cartoons full of G things that okay I do I do agree with you I agree with you that I do feel there is a disproportional kind of push on uh on all of this stuff on the lgbtq thing there is a push that is disproportionate so you're right like I see things in cartoons I see things like much more than You' see in just say generally that you'd see now that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist