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Recordings › Shaykh Kashif Khan | Policing thought, Pornography & Pandora's box | MindTrap with Mufti #15 · 19 Apr 2020 › Segment 32 of 35

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Does making people feel guilty about pornography make things worse?

imam imaam prayer leader muftis haraam ulama ulema ulamaa

The need for honest dialogue, guilt and depression, and unrealistic solutions

DiscussionRecorded 19 Apr 2020MindTrap with Mufti Abu LaythSegment 32 of 35 in the recording2020-04-19b-S32

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Mufti Abu Layth says telling people simply not to watch pornography is unrealistic and that guilt-tripping over what is not categorically haram may add to depression; the guest likens past bans on television and the internet.

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Mufti Abu Layth says that in his experience hardly anyone is prepared to have this dialogue, though the questions are on everybody's mind, and that young adults are exposed to pornography through social media and devices, many out of curiosity. He asks whether making people guilt-driven over things that are not categorically haram adds to their depression, saying that most men will watch pornography to some extent, that this may be very detrimental, but that simply telling people not to do it is not a solution because instincts do not work that way. He describes young imams in a gathering proposing to take the door off its hinges so that a person has no privacy, which he calls unrealistic. The guest says scholars in Pakistan, India and the Arab world first declared television haram, then satellite and cable, then the internet, before accepting them, and likens the matter to selling a knife: the seller is not obliged to ask what the buyer will do with it.

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hard but I've you know it's I've these kind of discussions have come up so many times being a share being you get asked this so many times you see it you see other imams discussing it the truth is that I've hardly ever come across anybody prepared to have a dialogue and I don't just mean me personally I think people in generally haven't come across anyone and and it's on everybody's mind these kind of questions they're so real this soul like kind of this dialogue itself I

2:41:42

don't and I don't even just mean specifically about let's say does it have to be about pornography or masturbation or these issues that came up but it's the dialogue as a whole it's so imperative that it needs to be hard like people need to kind of just just talk about this and say well ok it's true that look this is a big deal now most people yeah you know they don't even have to be young people but we say young people often because they're more exposed to and I don't mean by young people children I mean by like young adults like these people they are

2:42:19

exposed due to social media and devices and internet they exposed to pornography now a lot of them watching out of curiosity and and the question is well what about it where people want to watch it all they all these things categorically how long do they need to be guilt driven now does that not add to their depression because I've that the truth is this almost most especially men most men will to some extent watch pornography now the point is whether they watch it a little or a lot they will do this now I'm not saying it's a good thing it may be very

2:42:59

detrimental but they do it it's like you know breathing in pollution may not be good but everybody's doing it and just saying people don't do it isn't doesn't seem to be the solution because the brain doesn't work that way instincts don't work that way you know human beings men especially will be drawn to it they will do it and so I've heard orlimar discussed this and she moms and what they've said is you know what I like I have sat in in actual kind of gatherings and this is the kind of discussion by young vibrant Imams they will say you know what take the door off

2:43:36

the hinges like so basically you have no privacy and because you have no privacy you won't be able to watch any pornography or you won't be able to do this that's the solution and I just thought what an unrealistic solution that is just like how long before this individual snaps as an as an individual initially you know when some 15 20 years ago when the TV TV became popular television and Pakistan and India and in Arab countries they used to have this opinion or television is Haram suddenly they started saying

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saying okay you can have television but you should not have dish you should not have the channels and things like that and cable TV and Dish TV like that so and now they say oh no it's all acceptable and then they went on to go Internet Oh Internet is haram then they say oh no this is like someone is purchased if I'm selling nice someone is purchasing a nice from me it's not forbidden for me or to inquire from every person what he's gonna do with the knife he can cut by the tables but he can murder someone right it's not my headache and I'm not supposed to abound to inquire it it is the work of the authorities or the regulator like

2:44:54

whatever they want to or the person himself he can cut his own finger you cannot stop it a person can do suicide as well like so we we cannot stop someone from being whatever they want to do they can do whatever they people just make fine excuses right now and I feel because it's so these things are ubiquitous I don't see how guilt-tripping makes the matter any better because people are gonna be doing something anyway and what you're trying to do is just make them feel more and more guilty which is adding to depression I feel I don't know I mean these are just some thoughts I

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