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Is it okay for adults or children to change gender?

muftis shiah shiite shi'i twelver ithna ashari 'alim aalim

Transgender adults, brain studies and protecting children

DiscussionRecorded 22 Feb 2023Segment 6 of 9 in the recording2023-02-22-S06

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Mufti Abu Layth says gender transition is an adult's own choice after professional advice, but children should not be put through it until they can decide for themselves.

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Mufti Abu Layth says people are being silenced, for example being told not to say that women have babies, and the caller cites a psychologist on television who said transgender women are not women because chromosomes do not change. Mufti agrees chromosomes do not change but describes studies showing regional differences between male and female brains, such as in the thalamus, and cases of gender dysphoria in which the brain correlated with the gender the person transitioned to, while noting regrets in other cases. Mufti says that for an adult who has consulted professionals it is their life, their journey and their choice. Mufti says his worry is children: in an increasingly corporatised industry, children should not be put through it until they can decide for themselves, distinguishing intersex conditions present from birth.

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Mufti Abu Layth says children should not be put through gender transition until they can make the decision for themselves, setting aside intersex conditions.

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“you shouldn't put children through this kind of stuff until they can't make a decision for themselves”

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homosexuality look if it's their way of life it's their way of life T you know I don't think by people being gay makes us gay no I you know like if there were 10 100 gay people standing on the street we're not going to become gay just because there's gay people standing here you know it doesn't I think this is an unnecessary insecurity like some people have like oh my God oh my God we're all going to become gay like because some people are gay it doesn't work that way it doesn't it look if it's their life it's their life let them be but I do agree that you see things aren't just it's not just it's not this homosexuality I believe that there we are now in an era where there is this

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kind of like this really wishy-washy age coming about where you're not allowed to say you're being silenced you're being silenced on just having a belief like even look I did say that you see now if you say there was a clip I spoke about that some person in some places you're not like they don't want you to even say women have babies you you you can't say that you have to say people with capacity to get pregnant one psychologist let me continue here one psychologist was asked on a national TV do you believe

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transgender a woman he said this is very wrong question because yes I don't believe there are women and he gave the points they cannot be a child their DNA makeup is not what a woman has so yes they're not but I'm not telling I'm not saying in that that you are expecting me to say yeah but I want to say here look there's there there are studies there are studies right psychological study you're right that look the chromosomes don't change and these things don't change but there are studies that you have certain uh you'll have certain regions within the thalamus certain so

29:57

so the male brain so this is the problem today in this day and age so much is going on uh people are so the male brain and the female brain are not like mirror images of in fact it's not just about obviously male brain they're going to say well there's a size difference because of the the body size difference not about that but there's certain things with within it that are slightly different and one of them is the allocation uh Regional allocation to to to sex sexual differences so you have within the Thalamus certain regions and other parts that are different obviously of the Androgen receptors which are uh behaving different because of the testosterone as well that's impacting

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the male brain but you have certain regions in a brain in the brain that uh that in a man there's there's more uh of these kind of cell these neurons that are active for uh that are sexually um that represent sexuality in a man in a in a male than in a female there's certain different ones and you see a difference so the now the interesting thing is that they did find in um in in certain people in let's say gender dis dysmorphia you did find that certain

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people when they um they they did uh you know they operated and went they they were became trans transgender that the brain that they had actually correlated with the other gender that they changed to so they did find that in several cases now the question is it's not in obviously in all the cases I get that and there are there are several uh there's a lot of uh stuff on where people have regrets as well and that's obviously something important as well and these things I do believe these things are you know they they are very serious things that people need to

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obviously think through and discuss with professionals like doctors which I'm sure they do the only thing look to me a person it is their life their Journey if they have this struggle that they feel look my within I feel that this is you know this is the like my whole life I felt I'm the opposite gender this is not this and they speak to Consultants I'm not a consultant right I'm not a you know somebody that's an expert psychologist sure no I'm I'm a psychologist as well but I'm not a a person that will speak to I I mean I have I have a degree in Psychology and I have a background in psychology as well but the but I'm not uh a medical

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professional that deals with these in a um but let's say they speak to the professionals they get their consultant kind of professional opinion they realize and they take that decision that's up to them it's their life it's their choice and they will they will walk the path and with many people I do know it has been like it's this was something that changed their life for the for the better but there have been other cases where they've they felt that it became an absolute kind of catastrophe and they couldn't undo it and all these articles online I would say look these are people's choices it's not for me it's not for you it's

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whatever it's their the medical professional that deal with them it's their Journey but the only thing I would say and I am this is I'm I'm worry about uh is with children you see I just feel that with children these things you see that's where for me it's it's like well I don't know what's going on you see I don't feel that an industry that is now becoming more corporatized and more kind of a lot of more a lot more money is being pumped into it I I feel that see children they have to because if a child

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says this well okay you see because this is the child at a decision level to to be making these decisions I don't know this is but this seems very dangerous to me the child thing an adult a person that look they they've lived their life they say they've they've experienced gender dysmorphia they're the opposite side they've spoken to professional they make that choice that's their life okay um TK you know it's it's look at the end of the day if you're going through some condition you're going to speak to a psychi you're going to speak to some professional they're going to give you the advice you're going you might speak to two you might speak five you follow it it's your life the only thing is with

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children I would I would say that that you know you shouldn't put children through this kind of stuff until they can't make a decision for themselves because that unless unless it's a different because there are some conditions which are different from childbirth it's very you know like you have certain where the doctors from childbirth would say that oh like they born with both genitalia and they both inter yes yes I know inter kind of so that's different I'm not talking about that that they do from a childhood kind of and stuff exactly exactly but yeah so this um thanks for

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inside my my second thing second and last question I have to go on beauty yeah I think we we'll wrap this has gone on yeah go on well why not to uh preach and not directing it towards you I'm directing in general towards scholar why not to preach Tash Muslims if prach sorry like Shia Shia Muslims Shia because I my background is I was born and brought up as a Shia but then I went through researches on our own through

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