Can women be stopped from going to the mosque because of fitnah?

a train in a plane in an airplane speaking of in a break speaking of praying in mosques one of the issues you've been very vocal on is women praying in the streets yeah yeah it's me it's my much luck okay what's going on with this I think I think the LP its colors they're a bit relaxed because all wine women go to the mouth I can't sit in Mystica you can't go to the mosque

you can't come to the III but since I became selfie or would always take my mom to the east race and I was otherwise if they don't go how they're gonna learn like they're going to the market they are going to the universities colleges everywhere else they're going but they're specifically told not to go to the mosque right yeah and from the evidence perspective like they don't have any evidence like what evidence do they have other than other than this thing it's fit enough if you allow women to go to the mall it's fit enough and it just

just her booth is yeah you wouldn't believe the presence in there there's an authentic hadith in the Tirmidhi that a woman was raped while going for budget sorry a woman was raped right while going into the mosque in the morning right in a for print budget so and ready to harassed he was raped she was raped yeah while going to the mosque because people at the time like at the time the

Prophet they would go to the mosque when it was still dark you know they would go to the mosque was still dark so that woman was raped female Sahaba was raped and it did not stop the Prophet from prohibiting the been on mosque from female going to the mosque okay because I cuz I thought because the Oh me like there's some incidents I've read about this kind of thing but from what I from what I had read was that some women were just harassed I think why harassed as in some men had

tried to kind of just harass them on the way to the Masjid or something but I hadn't read oh okay I think thanks for texting me maybe I haven't read it for a long time but harassed or raped whatever but this there's nothing bigger than that this is the fitna they talked about right this is the thing you talk about and then then when that woman was harassed while going to the mosque it did not prevent it did not let the prophet and his companions to place a ban on the mosque right on the on the woman going to the mosque and this

happened after I think it was after the time when his job became first because after that time so all the all these Fitness kind of things to talk about like when you're the woman go to the mosque they they will indulge into into fitna and even we get from the from from the authentic police we get to know that when the woman would come at the time of the Prophet to pray the sahabas during their who would see the beautiful woman in their prayer this is another authentic narration see this is a part

of human nature it is the part you can not it's not possible that you cannot eliminate it right yeah like what you're trying to what yours just to be clear though the chef is saying this is about this cause this element of the point of prohibition that many of the Hanif ulama have used is a point of fitna that they have said the reason why women are not welcome in the mosque is because with the presence the mere presence of women

will trigger fitna will trigger all kinds of problems and issues from sexual kind of harassment to all kinds now that's why you're highlighting that look but there were cases of harassment there were cases of attraction there were cases of we attraction which is natural anyway all of these in the times of the Prophet and yet these things were not priority what else evidence they want this is a living example that Interop curing Tawaf they have been several

incidents reported that like some of the like meals they grope women to touch them or do these kind of things right yeah so if see look whatever you believe that the Prophet new unseen all he did not know the knowledge of unseen but allah allah subhanaw taala he already knew these things gonna happen he if if there was if if there was if there was a ban so they would have been in different time and prescribe for tawaf for both men and women there's one there's one

Kaabah but different timing could have been prescribed knowing this think that they could have been they could be harassed I mean this interesting hadith which I know I know for some people is a can of worms but which Imam Malik brings in the what thought that during the lifetime of the prophets and Allah I listened and men and women who go together yeah which is massively problematic we can for so many people because he it's a spanner in the works at how wonderful men and women doing what all together in the same place so some people say oh we didn't mean in the same place or some people

said it meant but I personally I'm glad that Imam Ali brought that in the you know the hadith you're talking about it's full version evening Fatima and that narration it specifically mentioned they would do it from one battle yeah and it mentions that man that they would do it together which negates because some Lama tried to do that wheel of saying if I can get over their own that they used to do mean I I mean in a way from one vessel when I came to I hid until well after so one

would come through then another person but the hadith actually that Imam Ali brings says man they used to do it together so it's massively it rocks the boat on this kind of issue the false interpretation and I had I had an article on that as well and I think I gather different routes and wrote them on my Facebook page so this is the false Bobby like they when they don't have anything left they come off this false are we like and try to bring