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Do religious scholars lose their independence when they depend on donations?

hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis hadees ahaadith muftis 'alim aalim ulama ulema ulamaa madrasah madrassa madaris madrassah religious school deen al-din ad-deen ad-din

Religion as a business and the trap of denominational dependency

DiscussionRecorded 19 Apr 2020MindTrap with Mufti Abu LaythSegment 5 of 35 in the recording2020-04-19b-S05

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The guest refuses to earn from religion because dependence on a group or donors forces scholars to say what their audience wants; Mufti Abu Layth says denominational dependency cripples independent thinking.

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The guest says the second factor is financial: religion has become a huge business. He says that when he moved abroad he decided never to earn through religion, because he had seen madrasa graduates who could not find jobs cry and ask for work and have no option but to join a group and follow its line. He relates that a scholar advised him to get a degree from Saudi Arabia and open a madrasa so he would have no financial problems, and that he refused because those who depend on charity or a madrasa's supporters must act according to their audience. He adds that when a famous cleric switches to a group, he is given a wife from it, a home, a car and financial support, and so does not leave. Mufti Abu Layth says that dependence on a particular denomination may be a boost at first but becomes a nightmare that cripples a person's independent thinking.

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smashed by an ahmadi as well and all the other police officer they were resisting to retaliate why because there was a huge crowd they couldn't you know they and then it suddenly went certainly becomes the religious issue no one even if they are posing if they no one there want to step in it just becomes a blasphemy issue sectarian groups operating and anybody can take

20:16

benefit of you you know and people think oh that so this is the thing and the other thing was I think it also has to do with the financial yeah something because I was gonna suggest this so it's good that you said that I was going to say that do you not think sometimes this is you know some people become very generous god-fearing and they get multiple

20:55

donation of like it's a huge business because when I have something here absolutely I was being told because I was because when I was coming here and it was my decision that app that never work on shared here would not ask for it I would do it whatever I'll do I'll earn by myself because I've seen how mothers are people like a lot of them in the final year and after dinner graduation they couldn't find jobs they couldn't find anything so they literally used to cry and ask for jobs and they had no option other than joining the group and to follow the even

21:34

though they know they have to follow it otherwise so this is and then come back there and come back and kind of you know

22:14

when you get accosted and then one of the caller advised me like you can go back you can go over there study for you like you already know everything you just have to get a degree you know each other from Serbia and then you can come back to

22:53

opener mother tooth over here open them all and you would have any financial problems I said so I said team and I don't personally from and if I don't like this thing like I don't want to earn through religious you know like if I'm in dependency you don't want to religious and then you have to abide you know when when people giving me charities or people are supporting your mother Rosa so the audience you have to act according what audience what your audience for one right and this this

23:32

happens every year because you know when the when in Pakistan a famous Mali changes changes expect right yeah so what happens they get married to a girl from that set they get a home as well they get a car you get a good financial support from that group as well and some of and when they want to switch back or go to other Medusa if they're already having this luxury yeah they don't leave it because why because it they leave it they would stop getting you know all these luxuries and things like that so it's kind of a business as well now it's

24:11

a huge piece once a person becomes dependent on a particular denomination this denominational dependency it is a even though it can be a boost in the beginning but it is a nightmare it cripples a person's independent thinking on that note I know you you have been quite independent in your thinking you've been even critical of some of the other hadith kind of views and things

24:46

like this on Facebook so what some of these issues must lucky I am into la Hadi so they are always grouping in every in every sec there are other groups for a moment I thought he said there's always grow pink

25:16

I was like okay so you think so what are some of these key issues or some examples of issues that you've had that you've gone public with rattle the cage so the main problem was they're like they were not we're very fond of reading

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Mufti Abu Layth. (2020, April 19). Do religious scholars lose their independence when they depend on donations? [Video, segment 2020-04-19b-S05, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/housirokbvu/s/5/
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  author = {Mufti Abu Layth},
  title = {{Do religious scholars lose their independence when they depend on donations?}},
  year = {2020},
  month = {4},
  date = {2020-04-19},
  howpublished = {\url{https://muftiabulayth.org/r/housirokbvu/s/5/}},
  url = {https://muftiabulayth.org/r/housirokbvu/s/5/},
  organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive},
  urldate = {2026-11-01},
  note = {Segment 2020-04-19b-S05, auto-transcribed, may contain errors}
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