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How did Shaykh Kashif Khan become religious, and does he regret his zealous phase?
hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis ahaadith riba ribaa sood usury iman imaan eemaan eeman jahannam jahanam jahannum salafism wahhabi wahabi wahhabism 'alim aalim ulama ulema ulamaa sheikh shaikh sheik shuyukh shaykhs madrasa madrassa madaris madrassah religious school amanah amana amaanah amanat deen al-din ad-deen ad-dinFrom engineering student to zealous Salafi, and whether he regrets it
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machinesummary, machine-writtenThe guest describes turning religious through the internet, cutting off friends and failing his degrees to travel with scholars, and says he does not regret it, calling it a developing experience.
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Asked what sparked his religious turn in a family that was not very religious, the guest says he came across Islamic material on the internet while searching for songs and began reading books; he faced resistance from his family, grew his beard, skipped engineering classes his father wanted him to take, and his younger brother broke the pictures in the house as they became Salafis. He says he cut off his old friends, made religious friends, faced hassles inside and outside the family, failed semesters in engineering and then computer science, enrolled in commerce, and spent his time travelling and staying with scholars for months. Asked how he feels about it now, he says it was a developing experience and that anyone born into a Pakistani or Indian family is inspired by some scholar at some point. He illustrates this with a relative who left the final year of his medical degree for religious study despite his family's backlash, and says that without that phase he would still be doing things that are not part of the religion, contrasting this with clerics in Pakistan now encouraging people to pray in mosques during the pandemic against the government.
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partition so very well what's it called jammy muhammediye yeah I'm a huge fan of who's a student so if you're familiar with them I don't know what the selfies think about him today a lot of scholars because ballina bath is just a small town I think the city yeah I think it's one hour drive from Gujarat up yeah and the mother the mother aren't telling to you Jamia
muhammediye it was sheer abdomen and Madeira body very biggest follower Hadees he used to teach over there and when it's appropriate artesian before the partition of Pakistan then his student Abdul man on new Puri and authority they started teaching in that mother after that mother is very famous so but yourself shaky where you you where you yourself put I mean when you placed into this mother of system through your family oh because I think your family were not
too religious so I mean what was this an individual decision and if so what sparked in in places like Karachi Pakistan Pakistan yeah on the thing it was in YouTube or I think I'm internet I was searching for some songs and then I came with me because before that I never heard of any book any Islamic book but since that since that day I started you know it's kind of develop and trust in me to started reading books and taking interest in those things initially faced
a lot of resistance from within my family to going from the kind of modern guide suddenly I'm always and I started throwing my beard and I was so strict that when I was in the college like I was doing engineering my father my father he wanted me to go to engineering and so but what I did I started skipping the classes because of poor education and then suddenly my younger brother he picked up from me and he broke all the you know whatever the pictures in the houses and he broke them yeah he broke
them anyway we became selfies and like straight away come forth like inside a lot of selfies collars they have it in their book even the RFU they would generally say that whoever believes a
lies everywhere become powerful like you know everything becomes hell out then then so you know that okay you you know you spent several years going through these different whether it was Institute's or private the rules and is that I mean was there was there much objection was there was it a hassle or was it just because you're still doing your engineering course what's this ya know what but then yeah but since I got into these things I used to mostly wait and spend a lot of time
reading these books and going to Drew's meeting with the scholars and spending time with them and I just cut off with all of my friends barely friends dear friends who ever like I drew two outfits in my in my area and my sub up where I grew up and bond so I start to stop meeting with all of them and start you know all these things I used to do normally with my friends so I cut off ties with them I started making religious friends because that was the initial space of learning and doing it you know you are very into it into a small kind of Molly energetic and
elastic so and then I start I faced a lot of hassles and retaliations within the family and from outside as well but I was so keen to you know to adopt that change that not but yeah but in that time I got my scores were changed like I didn't get good scores in my engineering then I went to computer science and I didn't study like I was mostly doing these modular stuff and traveling here and there for no reason I mean for for
for learning purposes but I was enrolled into Bachelors of Commerce and batches of computer science so I just then I got out of my degree because in from computer science because I failed continuously two to three semesters and I was not really focusing on that I was staying with the scholars and traveling with them you know so when you have to like you staying there for four months and four days with them and spending time with them learning yeah you know what's interesting how do you feel about just out of curiosity how do you feel about that
now like do you feel still that that was still fun or do you feel that that was that I mean in hindsight is that naive not really it doesn't have to be um just do you feel that that was something hmm which just a [ __ ] shook a Sbarro yeah and was it like that what was it actually a really developing experience yeah experience because I believe some as a Muslim as a Muslim if you were born into a like Pakistani or
Indian family somewhere in your life you get inspired from any scholar or just like that and I say I'll share a very interesting story my father-in-law he was a shekel hadith and famous student of Murphy's earlier on in the Christian mother at another loom and the National Loom school was started by my father-in-law because most easily must be thoroughly who he was very against the education of you know worldly education so so my father-in-law was abilities and his madrasah he convinced
him to open the school so he is so he opened that school with the mother funny okay school okay so so that he could get her his children into that school it was my father-in-law what the purchase like he was a British citizen and he left his final MBBS year and he left it so and for the religious education so he was he left all the things because and he had feels a backlash from his family as well because all of his family they were like
modern Muslims they were so all of them are in the USA at them one all all the family so he left his final year of MBBS and he left because at that time he wasn't Singapore I think he was doing it from Singapore and he was British so he left it for the for the religious education because most easily converts from like but leave all the things things like that for the religious things so his family got did not this did not like it this behavior I mean you
know was leaving the final year of your MBBS and then suddenly becoming very religious and not going into hiding not meeting with anyone so this was faith my father and even I think so everyone even if they don't go or like like this in extreme but still they are getting they began inspire aspiration from the mall ways who convinced them to do like a lot of like these things so I think I feel a kind of better now because if I would
not have gone through that faith I still be doing you know doing a lot of things which are not part of the religion Oh some some of like not like now nowadays they are doing in Pakistan like they are encouraging people to go and pray and even at the time of this pandemic thrown our thing still encouraging and we're hoping against the government so a lot of these yeah I mean and I was gonna say you know I'm black no tell me you're very familiar with the kind of the Pakistan politics and I mean by that not just the the actual government politics but the the dynamics between the
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