Recordings › Monday Nights with Mufti #197 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth · 12 Jan 2021 › Segment 32 of 43
Will you invite Javed Ahmad Ghamidi onto Mind Trap?
hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis hadees ahaadith muftis koran quraan al-quran madinah madina al-madinah madeenah yathrib 'alim aalim ulama ulema ulamaa sheikh shaikh sheik shuyukh shaykhsInviting Javed Ahmad Ghamidi to Mind Trap, and the gatekeepers around scholars
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machinesummary, machine-writtenMufti Abu Layth says, as his personal view, that Ghamidi himself is down to earth, but the team around him is protective and hard to reach; Dr Shehzad Saleem is the exception.
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To a chat suggestion that he host Javed Ahmad Ghamidi on Mind Trap, Mufti Abu Layth says he would love to but doubts it will be accepted. Calling it his personal opinion, he says the scholar himself is very reasonable, down to earth and humble, but that the team around him shows a protective, insecure and cultish mentality, perhaps fearing he would draw away the scholar's audience since he speaks in English. He says this is common around many maulanas and pirs, recounting how a meeting with a shaykh in Rabat [?] came with more protocol than meeting a king and his friend was refused 'clearance', and that when the scholar visited the UK he was blocked from meeting him and told to buy a ticket. He praises Dr Shehzad Saleem, whom he describes as close to the scholar but not part of his managing team, for answering his questions about the scholar's views promptly, unlike the team.
Question as read aloud · questioner not identifiedHave Javed Ahmad Ghamidi on Mind Trap.
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we do respect all books of hadith but we treat treat each hadith on its own merits if the hadith is problematic if it clashes with reason clashes with the quran or with the uproots and islamic principle the hadith is not acceptable it is inadmissible that's the teaching according to the school of medina and that's according to many scholars of hadith even if they didn't practice it somebody said have javed ramadisab on mind trap yeah i would love to let me try and see if we can make that happen it would be great if we could do that um
but the i i don't know if you'll accept it you know i don't know if i'm a big enough fish mouth or you know what it is i don't think my these are my personal i'm real real talk a real you're talk talk real i think javed ramadisab is uh this is my personal opinion i think he's a very down-to-earth person
very obviously he's a man of reason but he's very reasonable and down-to-earth this is what i think however i feel that maybe it's the team around him or you know that there's a lot of this um kind of hazardism you know this kind of um i don't know like misplaced uh overprotective jealousy kind of thing there's a lot of that and and people don't really um like they won't allow
you to i think that those kind of people don't maybe like me or maybe they don't mind me like they don't mind my opinions because obviously they're very similar to javed ramdisab's opinions but maybe they feel insecure that what if for example you know these people collaborate and then you know because i do my stuff in english he never speaks in english what if i don't know his audience comes to me instead of him because obviously that high level of urdu let's say in the united states who you know of a tiny select amount of people speak like that so maybe there's a fear that you know this
kind of insecurity this is real talk i'm just being honest i think javed ramadisab himself would be a lovely you know very grounded down-to-earth kind of humble person that's my person no i don't think it's it's him but i do feel that people around him are not very um you know i think that there is a lot of that kind of cultish mentality around him um which does happen it happens everywhere you know it does
um it happens i get that but but it's a problem when it's the people very around like it can understand if it's some fans but when it's the team around you it's a problem because you see the team around you are the people that will then interact with other people other scholars other it's like obviously like now i'm interacting with not gonna be what's happening he's gonna i'm gonna be speaking to his liaisons and and if they're gonna be very like that you know this is obviously this is the kind of impression it's going to leave with me it's going to leave this on
you know so this under just real talk that's the kind of impression i get there's nothing new there that impression is with most molanas it is with most beer subs most you know you try to get i try to once uh hook up with um um what's um you know i was flying i was in rabbat in morocco and he was residing in a robot so i messaged you know someone that was his rep and he happened to be there at that time so i said look i tell you i'd love to
kind of meet him and greet him you know meet and greet the man why not and you know it'd be great and and it was like there was more protocol than if i tried to meet the king of morocco it was like i'm i'm serious i mean it was such a ridiculous protocol that it disgusted me honestly i'm not joking i and and i don't think um you see in his case shaykh akubi's he's young you see i don't think he's oblivious to it i don't think this is happening without him knowing um i think whether these people are overdoing it and he may not be
but i think he's definitely aware of the stuff so in that case they they did all this protocol and then they said all right fine you know pl come at this time and this this this and and i was on my way and i had a friend with me and and they said well i said we're on our way oh wait a minute who's we i said me and my friend oh no no no i didn't clear the friend the friend doesn't have clearance i thought clearance i'm sorry are we going on is this the me
is this what clearance is this do i need a covid certificate obvious this was way before kobe but you know this this kind of thing oh no oh no no no no no your friend can't come in he can wait in the car i thought i
use his own time wisely i'll go make use of my time so it's not new meeting this kind of thing with other you know bees and these kind of but it was just surprising to see it around ramadisa because i just didn't expect i didn't expect it around him uh so i was kind of a bit well taken aback when because when he came to the uk i did actually try very hard to meet him and the block was incredible i mean it was like no no time at all for you it was like we won't even we won't see you anywhere we won't you know it's like very very
uh they did say you can purchase a ticket and attend his event but you know it was very and i was quite surprised actually wow i didn't expect that kind of uh you know so yeah but it is it is what it is people so i don't know if that will happen but cool let's move on right what somebody said dr shazad was on yeah dr shazad but i kind of got in touch with dr shahzad independently and he's not even though he's close to ramadisab
in term but he's not part of his managing team he's kind of just separate as in he's close to him ideologically and as a student but he lives in pakistan and amnesty lives in america so he doesn't really he's not involved in that kind of managing harmony he's just a very close person to him whose benefit and he was great to be fair dr shazad has been great i want to say that he i'm personally in touch with i've messaged him on a couple of occasions uh to get confirmation of what brahmadisab believes um he's been very prompt like sometimes i will be
researching something and i might message some of hamdi sabs team i might just say look you know is this what does ram desa believe on these matters god forbid that they give a straight answer [Laughter] they never give me another like they never give a straight answer to me ever like they just don't you know they just like fob me off always but dr shahzad if i message him straight away as soon as he sees it he just responds yes that's what he believes he told me this personally or no you know he can keep it brief but he's very much love and respect
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