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Ahmadiyya and false messiahs

17 answers in 7 recordings, 2019 to 2021. 9 with a checked position in his own words.

Indexed so far: 259 of 1,859 recordings (1,904 answers, 2014 to 2025). Anything below may change as the rest are indexed. Limits of the data

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  1. 20196 answers · 4 checked

    · Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's developing claims: reformer, messiah, prophet, Krishna

    Mufti Abu Layth says the claim that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never claimed prophethood is a half-truth, since his early writings disclaim it but from 1891 onward he claimed to be the promised messiah, then a prophet, then Krishna.

    “he did not claim to be a prophet some people will say this to you and and they will quote you his books right now the interesting thing is that's partially true that's a half truth”

    14:35TranscriptCite 2019-01-15-S03corrected

    1 more checked position in 2019

    · Final thoughts: mental health, persecution, free speech and the victim card

    Mufti Abu Layth condemns any persecution of Ahmadis but holds that criticising their beliefs is free speech, not persecution, and that not declaring them Muslims does not add to their persecution.

    “i don't justify and i condem any persecution of them i condemn that but i'm being honest look just playing the victim card all the time it's just nonsense”

    36:38TranscriptCite 2019-01-15-S06corrected

    2 answers not yet checked
  2. 20208 answers · 5 checked

    · Does Abul Kalam Azad praising Mirza Ghulam Ahmad prove anything?

    Mufti Abu Layth says Abul Kalam Azad may well have spoken kindly of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, since Mirza may have been a decent person and people who knew and liked him would be expected to say nice things about him.

    “he may have been a nice guy he may have been a very decent human being so people may have said nice things I expect them to”

    1:55TranscriptCite 2020-03-31-S02corrected

    · What was the purpose of God sending Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a prophet?

    God sends a prophet with a purpose, as with Jesus, Moses, David and Muhammad, and no such purpose or achievement can be shown for Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who lived and died under British colonial rule without liberating even Qadian.

    “he never brought that to an end and you can't say he liberated the world you can't even say he liberated a part of kadian”

    12:39TranscriptCite 2020-03-31-S04corrected

    2 more checked positions in 2020

    · The Peshawar courtroom killing of an Ahmadi accused of blasphemy

    Mufti Abu Layth says that, although Muslims generally do not accept such beliefs, a person claiming to be a prophet is not automatically insulting the Prophet.

    “Now obviously as Muslims generally we don't accept these beliefs but it doesn't mean if somebody says that that they are automatically insulting the prophet”

    1:46:29TranscriptCite 2020-08-04-S21corrected

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  3. 20213 answers

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