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The Peshawar courtroom killing of an Ahmadi accused of blasphemy
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machinesummary, machine-writtenMufti Abu Layth condemns the Peshawar courtroom killing, says a claim to prophethood is not an insult to the Prophet, and blames the authorities for failing to prevent it.
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Mufti Abu Layth turns to the killing in a Peshawar courtroom of an elderly Ahmadi man, arrested on blasphemy charges after a mawlana interviewed him on YouTube while he claimed to be the Messiah and a shadow prophet. Mufti describes the young killer smiling on his way to court, being hailed on social media as a ghazi, and saying the Prophet brought him the gun, and notes a police officer appearing to approve. Mufti says the authorities must be held accountable, since the killing was unmissable after such a public confession, and expects the killer may be locked up under pressure and later released. Mufti says the man did not insult the Prophet: a claim to prophethood is not automatically an insult, and asks why Muslims are so insecure when Islam has stood the test of time.
Position stated
Mufti Abu Layth says that, although Muslims generally do not accept such beliefs, a person claiming to be a prophet is not automatically insulting the Prophet.
“Now obviously as Muslims generally we don't accept these beliefs but it doesn't mean if somebody says that that they are automatically insulting the prophet”
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this is that you know sewing machine sewing machine. So people we have to mature and you know speaking of immaturity there was there is this problem that you've calamity that I'd like to speak about this that you can see is Muhammad Khaled Khan um a young person from Peshawar who I don't know if you're familiar with what's happened he right if I
here he is. This person was involved in murdering somebody by the name of Tahir Ahmed Nasim. Now this Tahir Ahmed Nasim was a uh he he was a Kadyani. He was somebody who belonged to the Kadyani denomination and he had he was an elderly man. I I don't know how old, but I'm assuming at least in his mid 50s, late 50s.
Um maybe 60s. Um I'm not quite sure, but he he looks quite elderly. And in all honesty, he's somebody who does not who appears to have mental health issues. Yeah. and he's on YouTube and what he's doing is he is um discussing on YouTube the if I bring this this is him on the right hand side and some molana is speaking to him so he's wearing the cap [laughter] on the right hand side
so some molana brings him on and then has this lengthy interview which is available on YouTube. So he's saying Allah has chosen him. So Allah has made him the Messiah. So he says the hadith mentions that there will be a messiah at the end of time.
And this interview, it's not that lengthy, but it's it's there. It's for it's a kind of like a so he says Allah explains that I'm his spiritual son. Ahmed. So he's a kind of like a shadow prophet of
So this molana uh is this molana is kind of clearly interviewing him and getting this out there. He's saying well he's made this clear. There's no room for interpretation. As you can see, he is a not only a kadani clearly is an individual who claims to be the messiah and he's openly he himself is openly doing this on some live interview on YouTube.
Now he was then arrested on blasphemy charges whilst he was waiting in the courtroom. Along comes an individual by the name of Khaled uh Khaled Khan. Some say Muhammad Khalid, some say Khaled Khan. Now he comes along. There he is. And he shoots him in the courtroom like in the waiting area. And apparently the judge was there.
Everybody's there. There is a video. I I didn't want to share that video on here. It is on social media. I've seen it. Um but it's where this Ahmed Taher is Ahmed is in the background just on the bench dead. He's been shot in the head or something. and he's just lying on the bench or he's kind of crouched over and and he's sitting there this couple of coppers, couple of police officers, other people still doing their regular work and everybody just seems so kind of casual.
And here you can see him smiling. You can see how people are people have been kind of very you can see here on social media saying look Gazi Khaled they're calling him somebody a military an Islamic kind of mujahid a warrior [clears throat] look how he's going to court today smiling subhan allah this is the kind of um this is the attitude so you can see this was him in that video where he's explaining and When they ask him, "How did you get the gun?" He says, "Well, the prophet brought me the gun." He says, "The prophet brought me the gun." So they
say, "Well, how did the prophet get you the gun?" And he says, "Well, that's what he did. He brought me the gun." Now, here he is smiling once again. And there's Kuzi's comment, Imam Kuzi saying, look, he's actually condemning the MUI who shared this, saying, "Subhan Allah, look, this is a true lover of the prophet." Um, and Imm Kazi who's from the Midlands area as well, uh, and a relative, he's critiquing that on Facebook.
He's got his comment at the bottom saying, "Look, what kind of nonsense is this?" And you know, this is the problem that you see this person like you can see his interview. He's in that room, informal kind of interview. The police have got him there and they're asking him, "Look what what did he what what's you know what what happened?" and he's saying, "Well, look, he's a gust. He's a blasphemer. He blasphemed against the prophet." And the police officer is saying to him, "Oh, did he did he say that?" And he's like, "Yeah, he said that." And the guy's like, "Oh." And even the police officer says, you know, like basically you dealt
well with him. And this is the problem. Now unlike some of the previous cases where the person hasn't even said anything about being a prophet, they just just kind of like falsely accuse them and then kill them. In this particular case, this uh person Ahmed Nasim, he did make all these claims.
He clearly was suffering from mental health issues. Now you see I feel in this situation the authorities need to be held accountable that how can it be that something like this circulates on local social media the authorities ought to know this was in pashaw for god's sake you know this is where the whole you know the the the kind of tradition and where everybody I I mean in Pakistan people own guns anyway but this is that very you know
kind of like the Taliban rule and you know this guy is going to get executed. How can you not know that? I refuse to accept that that that they couldn't see that that was going to happen. That was unmissable. Like it's it's a given that this person has come on social media. Some some molana has kind of made him openly confess.
He's openly confessed. You know, this guy's going to get executed now. The somebody out there is going to take a gun, which everybody's got tons of them over there. They're just going to go and shoot him now. How honestly I This is such a shame. Now this is the problem and and then you know then you see these other interviews like that guy who's going to say look this is my dean at the end of the day I'm defending the honor of my prophet how can you um you know how can you chast and if you're going to chastise me
chastise me I'm happy I gladly will take it and the public they will no way this person will never get any kind of incredible like he definitely won't get capital punishment in Pakistan for this. But I feel they might lock him up due to pressure and then later on release him. But it's I you know the problem is there's a helplessness in even facing this situation that what do you do like so much needs to be unlearned and so much needs to be then replaced as education.
I don't know if you guys cuz it's like everything is so messed up. The molanas, the narrative, the social narrative cuz even in that courtroom which I couldn't show the clip there because of the dead body in the background and it's just not um going to be appropriate. But you know you even how casual everybody is in that room you know like you got some of the admin clerks that are just there still just kind of like just oh yeah oh yeah and you know oh and there's just a dead person over there on that seat just kind of like this and they're just like oh yeah just getting this piece of paper and yeah okay yeah and everybody's so
and the police officers are like oh oh did he say oh he said it oh you should oh oh that's good all right that makes sense then The other people are yeah yeah yeah he insulted the prophet and you know and this is another thing to be clear he didn't insult the prophet you know the person now you could say you could say that look this he has made himself a claim to prophethood which he clearly was making a claim to prophethood but he wasn't saying like swearing at the prophet he was trying to say he's a follow on prophet.
He's like a shadow prophet. Now obviously as Muslims generally we don't accept these beliefs but it doesn't mean if somebody says that that they are automatically insulting the prophet like they sure you might say look their beliefs are twisted but firstly I want to say two things here. One thing is that look okay uh why are you so insecure?
You know, if a person came to me today and said, "I'm God." You know, I'm also God has made me into another like a second god. I mean, like, okay, now I I might take the mick out of him or her. You know, I might be crack a few jokes and but what would I get? So, oh my god, insecure. Oh my god, this is now going to challenge my belief in God.
If a person came today and said, you know, I realized that God has chosen me to be another prophet. How you know like why are are we getting so rattled? Is our iman that weak that when we hear somebody say, "Oh, he's a Kadani or he's a this or he's that." Oh my god. Oh my god. I mean, Islam has stood the test of time. Why are you so scared?
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