Apostasy has NO punishment in Islam: A Qur'an & Sunnah Analysis by Mufti Abu Layth

right so what are we looking all right right apostasy folks apostasy those of you just tuning in click like click share get this out there I want to discuss apostasy in Islam somebody abandoning the faith right leaving the faith of Islam what is the ruling of this and what does alive to say about it what does his messenger have to say about it and what the scholars what do we say about it today

okay so first of all I want to clarify the rulings okay aslam gives freedom of faith okay gives freedom of faith those who believe and those who disbelieve choose to do so Islam in fact discourages any faith just built on copying people Islam condemns any coercion of faith there is no way clearly nowhere in the Quran right and I will

highlight neither in the Sunna establish Sunna that an apostate must be killed that is not true an apostate is not killed in Islam okay we need to clarify these rulings right so okay now I'm going to now some of you may say whoa you know but what about all this all these hadith that we hear and all these muslims saying that we need to kill the apostates and so what do we have to say about that that is true people do say things like this and these are parts of

the misunderstanding of Islam that we've got today okay so let's begin first of all with the Quran okay so and then what I'm going to do is I'm going to come back I will take a look at the hadith I will take a look at some of the understandings and kind of discussed open it up but let's take a look at the clear verses of the Quran Allah clearly says in the Quran la caja 15 la cañada 15 there is no compulsion regarding the theme okay

there is no compulsion in another verse Allah says mature after Luqman muncha affiliate for whosoever wishes to believe let him believe whosoever wishes to disbelieve let them disbelieve in another verse of the quran in surah younus allah mentions i believe it's verse 99 that volusia our ibaka ledger a learner's larger element fill all the cool new home Volusia arabic allah a man a mindful of the Kalonji my heart that if your Lord

had wanted he's telling the Prophet if your Lord had wanted everybody on the earth : Jamie and would have believed alpha enter to crayon nasi hetalia Kuna what mini hunter to Korean s who you will you force people to become believers Allah is telling the proper will you force people meaning no it is a choice this is a clear verse of the Quran the Quran takes absolute

precedence so there are several verses like this in the Quran verses like poly al Katherine LA to my table - and then it finishes you do not worship what I worship I worship on that we have our own way slackened eno-kun Walia dean you have you Dean I have my Dean right so this here wise Allah not saying that wait a minute kill them close not saying that what is even our shul saying succeed and this verse the this

vers la Ruffa dean abrogated the other verse that bottle that yana be that fight against the kuffar and these people Waterloo alley he says in his stuff seal even our Shore degree Maliki legend and Cheryl Islam of the last century that this abrogated because Islam first of all the fighting is legislated as a defense and then they were cases where Muslims had to they had to preemptively go out to places because they knew there may be an oncoming

attack but once matters were slightly stable for Islam to have some security that from now on in the world Islam would could could go wherever it wanted to go these things any such measures were abrogated and it mentions like gravity okay so this is from the the clear verses of the Quran okay the other verses we know in from the Quran is where Allah is speaking about taking a life Mottola whosoever kills for animal cattle and nasa jimmy on whoever takes a

single soul is as though he has killed everybody woman i hear her and whosoever brings one life saves one life it is as though he has saved mankind so these things we understand that the sanctity of life is cotton it is cut i ok the sanctity of life is conclusive in fact imam shot to be clearly writes in his morphic art and other people right that islam came and all religions came for the preservation of these five matters and beginning with

enough save the nerves okay saving life that this was conclusive the haram martyrs would even be made halal to preserve life and and the freedom of religion at the for anybody in everybody not just for Muslims okay unnecessary people to have progeny and offspring a local reason promote reason and wealth surprisingly to me this is what religion actually came for these this is known as Maha siddhis Sharia so when people speak these are the

methoxy so just to kind of I wanted to kind of just open that up now yes people will say that they were rulings in Islam but would you not say there are certain rulings in Islam that scholars had taken based on certain hadith now I will come to some hadith and show how they are massively problematic but there are other hadith and teachings now yes we've got to understand something in

the past in the past so great scholars today by the way people like cher Abdullah bin ve a great Maliki scholar one of the teachers of share Hamza Yusuf in his sonata for tower in his machine he'd in his other articles as well in in his conference there was a conference which is which is available online as well or the transcript to it he discussed in depth these kind of situations saying that look in the past yes it is true that certain many scholars did go with certain rulings but you've got to look in they day and age

what were they looking at there was two things to understand here certain scholars first of all they when they spoke about any kind of ruling and they were speaking of what would today we looked at as treason in the past because in the past the world was a different place so they said anybody who committed an act of betrayal to the community and and on her that he was under ahoo that he made it up he kind of made apparent what many of them be safe he raised his sword and rebelled

and created a rebellion and may have been part of state secrets or what would today be seen as espionage and treason that yes in the past they may have ruled they did rule many scholars that that could have had capital punishment any of these rulings today clearly do not apply many of these scholars have said today Sher Abdullah bin baya whether it's been chef shall tooth share from a bond or booty all these all Imam clearly of this day and age have highlighted that does not apply at all but many centuries ago yes many scholars may have looked at the world because the world was a very

different place in the medieval times so they may have ruled like that okay what they rule was may have but but the whole world was doing it then you've got to understand something why didn't much limbs object to this why didn't some Muslims gonna say wait wait a minute we want to object because I suppose maybe they didn't I know this is gonna sound weird but maybe they saw it as is this really a battle worth fighting because in the past the worlds were incredibly segregated right they were incredibly segregated there wasn't this kind of cosmopolitan worlds that we

see today this kind of migration didn't happen on this scale that we have today so people in the past you know mainly these were let's say Christian countries these were mainly old Muslim countries you may have had some tiny kind of migrants here and there but that's how the worlds were and nobody had a problem in oh this person is a traitor this person is this execute them the Christians have no problem doing it anybody you know in in all these dynasties of the past and Muslims who I suppose from that perspective were no different and the scholars didn't really see this as much of an issue does that

make it in that sense does that make it accurate no it doesn't okay so that's just to highlight okay another interesting thing now let's go to the Sun now okay the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam spent an entire lifetime okay the Prophet Muhammad SAW spent an entire lifetime doing Dawa preaching teaching the people when people argue that apostasy deserves to be killed the question here is why does it deserve to

be killed why sorry why does the person deserve to be killed why and they would say well because he's disbelieved and he said well that's interesting because that would mean them disbelief deserves to be killed that anybody that Co far deserved to be killed because they also disbelieve does it not does that logic not follow so by that logic you would argue that all Co far deserve to be killed because what is the reason that you say that the ill our we call a no solution

yeah Luther the allure of the hukum what is what is it resting on so if you're saying well its resting on disbelief then disbelief also is found amongst so far did the Prophet just two people for being go far never never ever in fact a greater did the Prophet kill the hypocrites in his time afterlife no be was a known hypocrite he he used to plot against the Prophet did the Prophet have him executed never had him executed never even did that in fact even when to

pray his Genessa when he died the Prophet spent his entire life with people certain people who are not Muslim right up until his death there was the Jewish people thing that he was trading with even when he died the hadith inside Muslim he had loaned a certain amount taken the certain certain bags of wheat and left his shield as a kind of dick was it now is this he could have said oh my god that's a Kaffir kill him and take the you know he's well from the Prophet never did that so this is antithetical

to the message that that were of the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wasallam and against the verse of the quran wa ma arsalnaka illa rahmatan lil al-amin we have not sent you except as a mercy for mankind another hadith by the way these people use hadith of let's say the Dajjal now they say there was a Jewish person now even though I would have problems with that hadith but let's since all these people accept them that would make these claims let's okay there's a hadith of softness

again who was a Jewish person that the Prophet went to him and said to him do you accept that I'm the messenger of allah that there is no god and i'm and he said yes so now technically he's become a muslim and then he said to the prophet now do you accept I'm the messenger of God and the Prophet said like what in that hadith what is that supposed to even mean so according to that hadith which most of these people accept that person became an apostate did the Prophet instruct for him to be executed never I mean not that I accept

this narration as mean that the jail but still these people do the the companion Abdullah ibn ABI Sarah who was the relative of earth man that had betrayed and committed treason and left Islam yet when he went to Makkah and they caught him and he was worthy of that kind of punishment for the kind of damage he'd caused and how he had compromised the lives of many Muslims yet Osman came and said to the Prophet will you let him you know this person is relative and he's changed and he's you know he's made amends and the Prophet

let him be if that was a hug that you had to establish how could the Prophet let him be right so this somebody saying what a mess in you in you in your narratives in dealing with mortar there is not no mess let's take a look at some of these adi and this is why by the way this is why the narrations that come from Amaro de la langue that come from these people say that a person that was a mortar you would give them the chance you would give them the chance to why would you give them a chance if this was had from

Allah why would you give them that chance look this for example you've got this is Iman show cami brings in his nail alot arm and he mentions after bringing several of these narrations and he mentions about the Jewish people that would openly attack that would say things against the Prophet like may death be upon you and Mock the Prophet and do this and do that yet the Prophet didn't call for their death he did not do that and he says what about people

who curse the Prophet does that not and he goes into this discussion and he says look what Livy he mentions that the other hub that this was Lee muscly hated to leave that islam teaches us for the welfare to bring people to this deen and then he says he goes on to favoring that interpretation and he has this whole discussion on the cotton mortar bringing all of these re wyatt and he brings her and he goes on to say by the way that

this many of the scholars and this is what omar abrakadabra the allahu an ruled he says there was a narration that he heard that one of the Companions said I did this with somebody who openly went against Islam and after having embraced it and Omar said I would never have done that I would have maybe held him restrained him from what he did and asked him and tried to bring him back and certainly Wyatt he says Abbadon and in some they tried to say the letter to a young for three days but that's declared week right and he brings and he quotes a

mailer all power that that was also the understanding of Ibrahim and acai but wait this is Abuja ferrata ha we a great scholar of the Hanafi method who brings in his muscular Arthur right in under the section two nine two he says that the problematic narrations about apostasy right he says watered or anil islam health canada Lika aku bottom in who l'homme Lee Mahara bottom be my hakuna or Coubertin lil Mahara bean literally

camera Dean Cano available today alerted a Dima had him a Latifah Aloha he says was that those people who were punished was it because of their disbelief or was it because of the actions they committed was it because of the actions and he brings the verses he says the images are on Lavina you hurry boon allaha wa rasuluh that the reward of reward all what are the punishment for those who openly had declared war against Allah and His Messenger and fought him well

yes una fil ardi for certain and they had spread tyranny through the earth was that they would have had that punishment and he goes on and he brings the different narrations and he brings several of these rewires verse time and time again and then he says lo Carla Abu Jafar Abu Jafar Oklahoma says for watch above Italica st malo mafia deal ayah allah a maniac unum in Mojave el Maharaja was Salma score feeha Allah yo milky Emma okay he says this we establish that this we will use these verses to show that this was actually to

do with them fighting against Islam and opposing Islam and then he brings transmissions from I shadowed allahu allah about those people who you can who they could have been punished in the past with capital punishment that he says Oh Raja Raja mihari but lillahi wa rasool e okay or anybody who went out declaring war physical war against the Messenger of God and then he brings another narration from Asia or Raja long Yahoo germinal Islam a person who'd abandoned the faith for you horrible la voix rasul allah

azza wajal and then he set out and Maharaja is physical it's physical warfare that he would have gone out and declared actual warfare and then he brings all of these narrations going on to declare and this is the Hanafi ruling by the way so the hanafis had clearly mentioned the hanafi madhhab said that a mortared even though in the past they gave a punishment for a mortal because they saw them as part of this insurgency this part of this rebellion against the Muslim state of the past that's why they

said the female apostate would not be harmed she would not have been she was not eligible to this for the same punishment why why not the female why not the female apostate then was she not an equal apostate but she was but they said because she the women were not part they were not maja riba and he mentioned be safe people who would raise this sword against Islam and this is what Imam Selassie writes in his mob suit this is what if nakum Kamala Deen

Ibrahim am right this work asani even even Abidine from the Hanafi method they make that distinction okay so this is just some of the things this is even a shewed in hizmet acid he writes and from the freedoms that Islam gives from the freedoms that Islam gives for holy actually attacker that and freedoms of belief SSL Islam be imparted etapa that molality Akana now this is he goes don't say Islam dislike certain things but it gives the freedoms for

people to believe them and he goes on to finish by saying were Lola and I mean a surah Sharia earlier today at the heart my kinda acabas in death Olivia several Co for well you Theron Amman Hiram bulletin feel Toma idler Allah who fee he says if Islam hadn't done that and why do we accept the Toba of a person who openly had declared Islam and apostate 800 it was a hidden cafe from within and later on rebelled openly he says why would you accept his Toba he would only accept it because Islam gives

these freedoms ok let's take a look at someone but people would say yes but there's a hadith you see those of you just tuning in if you can click like click Share now people will say ah but Mufti there's a hadith in body now let me tell you there are famously you're right there are famously some narrations okay mainly the narrations are three by extension form okay the narrations go

back to in they go back to even a bus or on the along on the the popular narration goes back to even our bus it goes back to Abu Hurairah anis around a long one arguably and hansel Islamic these four are the these are the narrations the main popular narrations are really to the ones of and the absolute popular one is from even our bus Radha Mohan and I'm gonna discuss that and then Abu Hurairah okay so let me

right now when you say Islam gives time I'm gonna come to that to demonstrate when you say Islam gives time what could have they been speaking about could have they been speaking about to return to the faith as in to believe again that's nonsensical the other angle is they were they were speaking about perceptibly to have submitted to the peace and to withdraw from this rebellion that makes more sense now that would make sense to kind of withdraw from any insurgency the

other thing is if some scholars did say this if some scholars I'm not denying that some scholars may have said that that oh we're going to execute them or they have to embrace Islam in these days but they got it wrong if they said that they were wrong clearly clearly and categorically and the truth is that yes they too were a product of their environment in a day and age the whole world was doing things like this it was no different in Christianity they had the same thing in Christendom they had the same thing in was in the Muslim world they saw it as no different so some scholars did have quite a ruthless

mentality sometimes because the the day and age had very little value sometimes for human life and people of religion often justify things by religion but that doesn't make it right so hence you had some I've quoted in the past some Maliki scholars who said well all so-and-so has said this and somebody said well he's an apostate or he's like this you should kill him and other scholars in most in Muslim Spain said no you can't do that you know you need to defend things and that one scholar said kill him and he's his blood is on me and I will answer on the day of judgment that is absurd but that was the mentality of unfortunately of some

people okay so let me just come to two to these narrations because a lot of people mention these narrations I want to go through the popular one first this hadith ma'am but the ladina wolf up to Loulou this hadith is transmitted in in a mambo Hadees book is transmitted in Mussoorie inhibin emergere internally the in abu dawood and muslim department basically most of the major books of hadith except Sahih Muslim for this narration this narration is very interesting okay whosoever changed his Deen then kill him

this is what the narration says right first of all this narration apart from it clashing with the absolute verse of the Quran let's read the full narration let's read the full narration okay the full narration is actually to do with Ilia or the allah one even though Ali isn't saying it it's interesting there's a person called Akuma mola even Abbas who is saying it economists say is that Ali was brought sorry certain hypocrites who were brought to Holly in some narrations it mentions that they were they were idol

worshippers so you will see that there's a narration in nursery and in Ahmed wait mentions that they were idol worshippers but in in many narrations it says there were hypocrites apostates was in deeds people pretending to be Muslim and Ali said burnt Ali burnt them alive Wow burn them alive this is what the narration says this thing reaches even a bus a carama says I then told that to it not bus or this reached if not bus if not bus is by the way the heat a krama used to be his slave and then he

was freed by him even a bus said oh that was wrong of i'li like if i if it was up to me and what he should have done because the prophet told us off from burning anyone he said only Allah please the Lord of fire and he can punish with fire so I li got that wrong what he should have done is just executed them because the Prophet said man but the ladina who [ __ ] all right this is incredibly interesting why almost okay now these narrations bow hadees' narration comes through a comma

okay messiah is narration mainly comes through a trauma and necessity brings six narrations four of which come through a coma right now abu dawood generation comes through a trauma Charmides narration comes through economic a medieval narration at medina humble once again brings five narrations four through economic one I'll come to in a moment right okay interesting who is a trauma now why am I saying this a coma was from the Herridge who are rich people you know that group that early sect in Islam

that believed it was permissible to kill people if they committed major sins he what is the forefathers of the modern day Isis the huar each today when they call the eye when they call Isis coverage why do they call him college because the Huaraz were this group that emerged in the past now they did have said they had fights between themselves as well and they had several fraction factions between them now so they were called so faria the haruya and the different kind of groups amongst them the next the end and and all these kind

of different groups you had but the point is that a trauma was one of the leaders was one of the leaders of Isis of of the day the ISIS of their day image were referred to as the Hawara rich and guess what like the Huaraz hated st. alyre of the LaJuan they hated Ali they hated Moria they felt the alien mahalia destroyed Islam so he what is he narrating that Ali went against the commandment of the Prophet and he got it wrong so I'll he

got it wrong by burning people alive right because the Prophet said don't burn people but if not had told us overdue q people supporting his ideological is extremist ideology what have scholars said about a comma Imam Malik rejected a drama in my malik rejected a Kurama right he said that he was from this extremist group yeah he even a seasonal and sorry said he was a cat the liar a bliss serene rejected him sayyidina

musa him the great tab I rejected him and said carob he is a liar I love cause him the grand Branson of Abu Bakr of the law and said katha he's a liar as the heavy said this is al hafi the the Hobby said the higher the homeric Imam Malik turned away from him in another narration he says in another book he says are all the unknowing Mali kind of rejected his things and he says that I Comicon I are safe he was somebody who would see the sword that you would execute people so he's

narrating and narrations coming through him dissing Sedna Ali and supporting this thing of of the sword Mujahid who was a student of a banana bus you can three buoys to say he was a liar even a Marine said that can Amalia Carrara a karma the man accused to hate a krama dislike him call the Abbasid or e other and abbasid oli asked him are but other our on Raja leaned on who but doesn't he transmitted from him from a person from him he says she only a seed

only a tiny amount in my Maliki were transmitted from him what did Imam Ahmed didn't humble say Imam Ahmed even humble said that ma I limped American had the toughest on my trauma Alafia hadith in white he says only in one Hadi comes to my mind that Imam Ali transmitted from him and named him all Robbie Abner Solomon the student of Imam Shafi he transmits from Shelfari from Malik that kind of Malik say ye oh ye feei Kurama in my malik is to be really hate acraman Allah our Allah I had him he said I don't see it permissible for anybody in your pal

hadith er who then he can accept his the hadith of now Musab the uncle of zubeida Prabhakar said a trauma it alumni a bus and no Canara yoga worried that an Akuma used to lie on evening bus and claim that even our bus was also part of the Hawara CH it was part of this extremist mentality the the son of a pluribus who is known as Ali Abu Muhammad a sachet so alia Sajjad right so right somebody transmits that I came into alia Sajjad

and I saw the I karma was tied up by him and he said what's this or I can remember yet and he said Connie he said ya crib or a lobby he used to lie on my father like make things up if normal say Europe said to one of his servants whose name was bird lair tecnológica meketa bike rama alumni bus don't lie about me how a grandma had lied about even a bus and many people transmitted this kind of thing so this is this is a trauma people who all of these hadith have come through all of

these in bodies come through a trauma in NASA is full narrations come through a trauma from Qatada from a trauma in abu dawood comes through a trauma Tirmidhi comes through a trauma as right these are all coming if no magic comes through a comb or a trauma right in another narration one of the narrations of imam ahmed for araçatuba whom in the same alley also burnt books now check this and look how they disparaging satan either of the law on that he was somebody aunty books aunty thoughts if you're gonna burn the books why not burn

the books of other religions Islam doesn't teach you to burn the books of religions so why would say nyla do this right okay but here somebody could say well hmm that's interesting but this narration AHA right this narration is also transmitted is also transmitted the same one right however through apparently ns transmits this that's interesting from him Qatada from him in Xiamen Nabi Abdullah from him up the summit

this is transmitted by Nasser in one in almost two of his narrations and the most of the back more than one that's interesting but let's take a look at these people first of all this up the summit in this chain people nasha Fe baton Motta's Ely had more otezla tendencies why are the martyrs in our problem the martyrs Allah our problem because they too like the Huaraz were extremists today people say the martyrs in our all about reason no they weren't they were extremists they were all about rising against the state they

declared anybody who committed a sin to have left Islam but to have been in a purgatory state and they used to speak about we need to rise against rise against the state rise against the state this supported their beliefs so if you ever see a hadith that teaches these kind of things you need to be incredibly weary and this up dose up the summit first of all was had Marta silly tendencies what does I would I would say about him that he has he's a problematic narrator yeah Tommy little team a baja team says

he's just okay if niger says in some narrations he's reliable from Sharper you've got--if know connie al-baghdadi he says he's somebody reliable who makes mistakes ok write another narration people bring the same one I'm talking about man but the ladina who from yama dust away he who was a martyrs again I'm not easily supporting his extremist tendencies people anybody supporting extremist tendencies massively problematic and then they say well kitada transmits this you say well

that's interesting patada transmits this from honest mmm first of all qatada is a mass is known for at least he so often blogs the chain right he drops people in between plays around with the transmission of chain this topper he says that he's from alerted lease and Hakeem says he's much more with that lease and Alami says his Kathy rooted lease if my band are put me in a Cell ll area they're happy is some idea Hodja even know how to feed all of these people say he was known for to

these people so why did I bring that to show that well people this narration is life life right this is to do with apostasy so you say well okay that's interesting hmm and that's the main narration that people use the other thing is that it clearly clashes with all three it clashes with reason I slammed giving you freedom of belief a clashes with the established sources the Quran and the clear life of the Prophet and with

principles in Islam the second hadith of Abu Hurairah which is transmitted in Bihari intimately in der me and most of Ahmed as five narrations of it it's transmitted all of these narrations people all of these narrations come through they come of Abu Huraira come through bouquet Allah Akbar right and the narrations are put a BA from lathe and it goes on and they go on from bouquet from Solomon

igneous are from from Abu ho it'll be a long one some transmitters have actually said that there was another person in the chain there okay right amongst them even eyes how can other people transmit that and Hakeem has problematized some of the narrations from Kota BA from a lathe saying that sometimes Kotova took from her little Medini who is at utterly rejected in fact a liar in some of his narrations and one of them as an example is the husband suits a book and endure me right this narration bokade

actually brings from abu is how toodo see from a Barrera not from Solomonic Nisa which sounds like the more true a chain where this was coming from and who is this voice after dosey Darby says unknown module Abner ii says module unknown right so this actually unacceptable people that narration of homs al s la me right this comes in abu dawood and it comes in the muslim varmint abu dawud is transmitted from muhammad apna bakr al burns a me from

ignatow range right now immature age was known as a be hurted lease people like shot bad criticized him at the hobby at right had written that you cannot accept his thing unless he says hadith Anna not even aspirin II in this Cheney says up burning okay Dave right a Bahraini is last shape because he's to read out of a book and black even at your age is kabhi hot at least in many of these things okay yeah in the trip they mentioned he makes mistakes even hogr highlights he's from the cubbyhole that lease is

transmitted from imam malik when he transmits people speaking of of of a penetration that is hard to believe there is somebody who gathers all kinds of transmissions okay the second chain that you've got from abu dawood once again comes from his son from homs al islamic son who's known as Mohammed even Hamza everyone Phaethon says we don't know who he is even hasn't said he's died Eve the ieave people died right okay look that's a hadith II analysis I want to put that aside for a moment okay but I want you

to cover it to show you I want to come back to something very simple and that is look I want to ask you if you said an apostate deserves death the first question is why if you say it's because of disbelief well that doesn't make sense because then all Kafar deserve death if you say it's because he accepted the message and then rejected it but then what if he never actually accepted that message and like most Muslims today was just born a Muslim or what if he accepted it by doing that

lead by just following somebody into it and then rejected it so he never truly accepted hence a lot of those transmissions like from that amantha how he brings or imam show can he brings that these people and you've got amantha how he in his esta la caja brings from home where it now Abdul Aziz that he would take the jizya from these people so why from Mehrtens because maybe they never really accepted Islam in the first place so you gotta ask the question why a question as some

people hate yet is so often loved by both children and geniuses alike why so the question is why is the apostate why would he be killed because if you're gonna say well you know it's because of Kufa it doesn't make any sense we say it well once he embraces Islam he forfeits the right but what if he embraced it were lacking knowledge or embraced it lacking understanding or embraced it by copying people always born a Muslim like most people then what how do you respond to that and then people say and as to the response well you give him so many

days to embrace Islam does that not sound absurd does that not go against first of all the verse of the Koran if I enter to crayon nasty hotel Yakunin what meaning will you force people to become Muslim because look if I say I give you three days to become Muslim right if I say I give you three days to become Muslim talk to me I will answer all of your questions I heard some that I recently get into a debate with some X Muslims and he said well in Islam we would give him three days and we would answer any doubts he has you see that is such a silly statement it is

an absurd statement because you are assuming that you can convert anybody back to faith within three days then in that case why do you go out and convert the world because if you claim that look I can answer any doubts that anybody has just give me three days then go out go on go convert the world you can't do that you see that disrespect you'd belittling a stuff you belittling the effort of The Messenger of Allah so Allah a leave us on them you're saying that The Messenger of Allah cool people

in Makkah for 13 years and couldn't convert the majority of Makkah were you as an insolent arrogant bigger that you are can convert people in 3 days how be you disrespect the messenger of allah salallahu alaihe salam like that how do you and say o Allah gave as such and such a people a punishment in the previous days and he gave them three days so we're gonna give three days what kind of absurdity is that kind of nonsense is that if I said to somebody

you've got three days three days to become Muslim I'm gonna shoot you of course the person's gonna say okay I'll be a Muslim I would say that if you say if you put a gun next to my head or if you put a gun next to let's say somebody is my let's say a sibling a child somebody's child somebody's parents would have gun next to their head or a sword and said do you embrace this lump or do you embrace Hinduism hell yeah okay I embrace it and what's wrong with that even the Koran says that's you obviously you can

embrace anything under coercion you'd be stupid not to embrace the you'd embrace it to save your life so now you're saying Islam supports hypocrisy you're saying that Islam wants people to be hypocrites because it wants them to pretend to be Muslim just to save says obviously everybody would do that you'd say yeah yeah don't know kill me me I'll say whatever you want is that how the prophet of God to people is three days and I will clear any doubt kind of

nonsense absurdity this blasphemy to the the effort of the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wasallam that he preached for so long and he couldn't you're saying that he couldn't convert everybody but you with you arrogant three days can convert anybody to Islam take those three days and stick them with the Sun don't shine because what you're saying is disrespecting the messenger of allah sallallahu I leave Salaam and anybody that does these

things truly has no loyalty to Allah and His Messenger they have been in the actions have no love for Allah and His Messenger right so this is the thing now so okay just to view this whole thing in to ticket ticket to get an understanding right so how could Islam by the way to embrace Islam most as Somani and many most theologians say days would jube another he is why gypped reason to embrace Islam most Muslims born today are most Muslims won't

or just sorry most Muslims today are just born Muslims they're not even reasoned about the faith so this Islam is simply just an acceptable eat Islam because many of some of them might go on to ponder some of them dump but this Oh we you know we yes we killed somebody but and this nonsense of saying oh but it's better for you that we're doing this you know what's what's funny is the Muslims you support these kind of arguments themselves who live in let's say the Western countries all of a

sudden would kind of preach freedoms and like what about oh we've got freedom of religion and how can you say this against Islam and how can you do this what if they should support then what if a fascist regime came in here and said anybody who who's still a Muslim should be persecuted let's just say would you consider that atrocious of course it is but then how can you that's double standards because if you say Islam can do it then why can't other people do it do you then accept Hindu kind of extremists going around under the BJP rule in India and and these lynch mobs and murdering people do you accept that

because they say yeah we can do it because why do you accept the under Islam then so this is a disservice to Islam there isn't a single verse in the Quran that would ever say this and in fact the Quran is against this message secondly there isn't a single established hadith and established conclusively established that would prove that and even if you listen even if they say we've got these hadees i want to ask them one thing even if you have these hadith that have got problems in them are they not huh bro rahat are

they not huh bro i had with some doubt i would say they completely life but you would at least accept they are isolated narrations with some doubt can you take life based on doubt can you take like who on earth authorized you in Islam to be able to take life based on doubt and who on earth told you you can teach these kind of nonsensical absurd teachings in the name of Allah and His Messenger making people have a hatred for Islam it is disgusting what these people have done and I've really get

upset by these people who try to close this in some kind of academic veneer there is no academic veneer to this garbage okay so that's how you gonna you cannot take a life based on huh bro I had life has sanctity that is cut I in Islam it is conclusive you cannot overturn that with a doubtful even if you wanted to accept that hadith a hadith is humble I had we doubt in it that you accept it has doubt in it I've shown you these people criticize those same narrators so you would accept that even if you want to accept that if you

would say yes it has 95% certainty not certainty accuracy or 97% accuracy 3 or 5% doubt at the very least you would say that how could you advocate for taking life what difference seriously what is the difference between you and Isis if you promote these kind of beliefs the difference is some I heard somebody say yeah but we would do it through a we would have a judicial process that would answer questions and do what so you mean it's a and administrative difference between you and Isis what kind of

nonsense is that right so we need to seriously I get what the reason these kind of things really wind me up is that how can people really misrepresent Allah and His Messenger well I look there are many look there are several people they've left Islam I want you see those of you that know are we Google that Arafat the the level of ill had the ill Hadees of apostasy and Co form in places like Saudi Arabia it is on the rise massively they've been discussing this on so many

TV shows that look why why is it on the rise because they say later Nakhoda Elfie Korea was a coffee here because of these because of the clashes ideological clashes I was reading the other day about this I don't know if they've executed him this think his name was Ahmed and summary and a few other people that are on death row in Saudi Arabia for blasphemy well why it hurts me you know some of these X Muslims look people say old they left Islam because old they said this because they've got a disease in their heart get lost

have you you know what The Messenger of Allah said I was shocked to Allah that have you ripped open his heart and taken a look how do you know how be you can make these claims I've read one of the the tweets about some Saudi who they said was an apostate what Allah he it hurt me to see that these people that look listen people the none of us have met the messenger of allah salallahu alaihe salam these people who have a bad

opinion or they've gone away from the Prophet it has been because of the misrepresented image by these bigots of our prophet they have sowed the seeds of hatred they have given a distorted ugly image of Allah and His Messenger to these people who have then hated Allah and His Messenger they are to blame it hurts me when I see that that why you know that this person hasn't met the Prophet why

would he hate the Prophet he would hate him because what has he read about him he read what these idiots have been writing they are to blame seriously and and to judge the look if a person left Islam that's the that's between them and God leave them alone yes if they want to have a discussion you can have a discussion but this kind of nonsense oh it's because it's a disease in their hearts oh it's Hungary Lud is more space in heaven or I read somewhere some post about next Muslim

saying that Muslims are saying well your wife is now fair game oh she's you know this kind of what kind of disgusting nature what what is wrong with you people man is this how you know wonder they hate Allah and His Messenger who would who would you know because they think that's what a line is messengerís saying honestly what why he these people will be answerable for what they've said they have caused these people to hate let me tell you a hadith of The Messenger of Allah Salama Ali was

something that he when when a person came in and he urinated in a sacred space and the people got up to chase this person and the Prophet told him leave him alone leave him alone what the hell's wrong the Prophet himself went and cleaned that himself went and cleaned that and do you know when he the person embraced his father probably never told him to embrace Islam person embraced Islam the Prophet said would you would you say that in front of them they said he said iyx you know you must be the Messenger of God the Prophet said to them listen he said the lightness the

Simla to dove you and me to this person is like a person who had a horse and the horse run ran off ran wild and people chased it and the more they run after it the more it run away they chased him run and the owner said leave it alone leave it alone I am its own and he picked up some hay and and he just simply showed it to the horse and the horse came walking to its owner he said that is the similar to dove you with this person and me that had a void

left here you would have killed him that is not my message not the messenger of allah sevillanas so people look and this argument oh no we will kill somebody openly if we have an Islamic state what hell is that about what Islamic state what's so different about you Islamic state and this Isis Islamic state we did Allah say in the Quran go bisetta state no way there's a video clip before it's on YouTube or chef Akram Ned we and I did a joint event where we answer this question share affirm that we actually answers

that question more so saying there is nowhere in Islam this kind of Monday to set up a state yes if Muslims got together and they live together in communities they should have some rules that govern them but it would never set out with this impetus vision of empire the way it's become over time and today it doesn't exist and all this is is a fake nostalgia it's a fake solution to our problems or why why are we suffering because we haven't got a state let's go back to a state what state Empire you want to go back to Empire it will never go back to we are not in stage of

Empires and kings and dynast dynasts and dynasties and so you know mayor loss of Hana Hana seriously give us all the ability to learn this thing truly for ourselves to really convey this with the sincerity that that it deserves ok I'm sorry to have kind of gone on but these kind of things really do rile me sometimes so I'll leave you guys with that if you do have any issues do reach out to me and Charlotte that's on

Facebook on Twitter like my page I'm on snapchat mum 2014 ma LM 2 0 1 4 other than that people do remember the words of the messenger of allah that look make ease for people welcomed them do not scare them away that was his message ok I leave you with those words people spread love not war in sha Allah take very good care of yourselves Salam alaikum or a little lighter I'll our butter cat