If a hadith is also in other books besides Bukhari, does that confirm it?

you can't stop something if it's you know mazara it's fun so right let's move on people let's move on what were some of the other topics right okay hadith people had check this out now i had discussed something about called the um the kind of bounce and ripple effect or the boomerang and ripple effect that basically a hadith when it's being said by let's say imam bukhari it could influence subconsciously other people and their hadiths in their books

so this is a response to the question that comes that what if you sideline bukhari today doesn't matter because these hadith are still equally found in some of these other books but my question to that is how do you know this is not a bounce effect or a ripple and boomerang effect that basically because imam buhari was a uh you know he was a great person and even though these people don't transmit from him directly but they acknowledged him so if somebody said or if he said or somebody from them said that look imam bukhari said this narration

it may be that the listener he may do it subconsciously he may do it consciously may alter his version to standardize it with what he just heard and people do this all the time in shared memories so people will sometimes your friend might narrate an event to you and their version of it may be slightly different to what you remember but if it's if that person is somebody for example one you look up to and two if it's maybe a more appealing memory you might alter your memory to match this

this kind of mirroring and it may be the people who took the books from these other imams altered it you don't know and so this is not something i'm just saying like people could say well you know mufti is a bit of a a long shot but here let me give you an example people you thought i speak without dalil did you not know did you think i was in what's the word epic

what's the word epic epic durian what was the i forgotten the word i'm gonna have to biggie d i'm gonna have to go back to big d right so people take a look at this now this is uh an example this is a great scholar uh sheikh ahmed shakir who's working on the mahala of uh ibn hasan that you can see there i mean that's just the reference to the page now this is in the mahala this is an example yeah um

and you have to understand is a huge you know he's a huge figure of the uh he lives into the early 1900s now sorry let me just see what's going on here right excellent so now ahmad shakir as you can see there this is a text where he's quoting from the mahala of ibn hassam a statement of imam malik

and he says look at malik that this has been transmitted from malik and he says that he asked malik about this water that animals come to and they you know basically they drink it but they also kind of relieve themselves in it and it's it's like a little it's like a pond not a little but it's like some kind of or maybe a pool a drinking pool where animals come to so he's asking could somebody do wudu from there and imam malik basically says if the water appears fine then fine you can do it but the interesting thing as i've underlined the he quotes ahmed sharkin who's a great scholar a

don scholar he quotes ibn qasim now so what's the problem well you see the problem is that ibn qasim isn't the person who transmits this now let's go to ahmad shaka's footnotes he quotes this and this is him working on the mahala and a classical text of ibn hasam and he is editing and he's editing this book and he brings it into print it's with his editing i mean in fact that's the the one i have as well right so you can see here he mentions in the footnotes he says

um that he says look wassawa he says it mentions in such and such manuscript the misery and the yemenia in both of those it mentions see the name is this must be a mistake because it's whenever he transmits maliki from of

imam malik he transmits it via ibn qasim then notice he says which is underlined in red i really tried to find this allah in the mud of ibn qasim but he says i didn't manage to find it now right so okay so you say well okay what's so you know interesting about that you see the interesting thing is ibn ranim does exist not only does he exist you see here is a quote imam malik used to praise think

exalt him think of him so highly that if when he would attend his class he would make him sit on one side to him on his side and he would ask him often what's going on ibn khanim was from north africa he was from uh modern day tunis as well which is also where sahnun is from and imam malik would often ask him and he went on later on to become a judge in africa and he was deemed one of the most knowledgeable people uh regarding the statements of regarding the statements of uh of imam malik

now right okay i'm just trying to okay that's good so so what's happened here this is one example what's happened is ahmad shakir is editing he comes across a name that looks similar in its spelling to ibn qasim it says now he he thinks ibnaranim from sahnun is saying from ibn ranim that doesn't sound right because and he's not a maliki but he's heard of these scholars he says usually transmits from ibn qasim so he changes it to ibn qasim

see he's not doing this out of some evil intention but he is trying to rectify because it makes sense to him yet ibn al-qasim does not transmit this it is actually ibn radhim so here you have a kind of working editing taking place and i'm showing you an example of something which is obviously you say yeah but so what you know this is happened now and we've picked up this mistake yes that's because it's happened now but what about all the hundreds of times that this has happened in history

and people that come after would just quote him do you understand and this is part of that kind of ripple effect that is created and let me show you another example you see in the same book the muhammad there is a hadith right now the hadith itself is a standard hadith to do with the menstrual cycle but the interesting thing i want to speak about show you how hadith that the chains get influenced now this hadith is transmitted from four people are transmitting it yeah so you can see here