Mohammed Hijab's liberalism lecture argues like a sectarian polemic

but let's focus let's let's cover Mohammed hijabs talk on liberalism because I think this is quite important a few people did send it to me it's a recent talk done by Mohammed hijab in I'm not exactly sure where it is I think it's the Netherlands and so it's it's on YouTube and Mohamed hijab it's at a university he's giving a thorough discussion ad uh it's not a dialogue really but a thorough kind of lecture if you like a detailed or apparently

allegedly detailed lecture on liberalism what it means an Islamic viewpoint how it's wrong how it's baseless how they don't have any valid arguments to argue from that they don't have a valid standpoint and this is this is the kind of claim being made by Mohammed a job so I did I watch the lecture just to see what what is this about now I'd like to clarify a few things like what I what I

thought about this lecture I think that this I did read especially in the comments that it seemed to be very well received it was in a university setting but the assumption the impression I got is that it was to a Muslim audience okay because it seems to be very kind of playing to that Muslim kind of sentiment so I'm not sure if they were if it was a heavily mixed crowd or not but it doesn't seem like that front by the way

the talk is delivered okay so Muhammad a jab begins by defining liberalism what is liberalism now just to I I want to make a few pointers and then go into some of the discussions that he had just to kind of give an overview first of all I feel that either Muhammad hijab doesn't either he hasn't understood the whole she hasn't fully holistically grasped the concept which I'm not so sure because he's an intelligent person Mohammadi job is very

intelligent you know he's not somebody stupid or somebody naive so I'm not sure if that stands true or is he deliberately kind of going down a particular particular route of of argument just to kind of win his case and get points I don't know or is it that he's I don't know he's being he's being told to say things in a particular way I don't know what the reasoning is I mean he knows a lot of them but I think

it was a very poor job it was it was done very poorly in my perspective he's kind of breakdown of liberalism because what he was doing is he was arguing against liberalism the way Muslims have sectarian debates so this was his point like like let's say you are about to argue with the Shia for example I'll use the wrong word let's say you're about to have a debate with the Shia or with the Sufi over the Hanafy or with the Maliki

or with the Wahhabi or with a religious this is how Muslims within religion debate what they do is they find out what that person adheres to then they will use the figures so let's say now I'm going to debate against a Hanafy so what I'll do is I'll find out ok what dudes a great Hanafy scholars scholars have to say about a particular whatever the issue is and then I'm going to say to them ah but look look you're saying this but imam abu hanifa

himself used to do ruffle yadaim for example or I'm gonna say ah you're saying this but you know even at a mia he used to go and visit Sufi graves so how can you be against so what we do is we argue from a point of compelling leadership compelling Authority so we assume that that figurehead is an absolute authority for this person so we're going to say well you know you you

claim to be Maliki so ah so Imam Malik said this ha now you're stuck you're stuck now because I quoted your Imam this is the kind of polemics that happened within unfortunately but within religion within Islam especially that is how all of these Muslim ik Islamic debates take place so if you're gonna argue the Shia oh here is a Shia book your Imam said this this particular Imam Ayatollah said this now you're stuck

I've got you so even if that person says yeah but I don't really follow no no no what do you mean you don't follow the Imam Miceli it's in the cafe's if it's against the shia or it's you know it's in the madonna by imam malik oh it's in red dorm at ry the Hanafi so what we do is we argue from an angle of compelling Authority compelling leadership so Muhammad hijab was using this tactic okay against liberties that doesn't make any sense because outside of religion

people don't see the world like that okay so you have to understand that people don't this they don't feel that they compel to some kind of Allegiance this is to begin with so what maja a job did in this lecture he began a thorough part of this lecture a huge part of this was dedicated to to the figureheads of historical liberalism so what does liberalism mean although