Recordings › Prof. Edip Yuksel | Rejecting Hadith, Rashad Khalifa & Realizing '19' | MindTrap with Mufti #27 · 26 Jun 2020 › Segment 30 of 36
If you reject all hadith, how do you know how to pray?
salah salat salaah namaz salaat namaaz as-salah al-salah salawat hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis ahaadith imaam imams prayer leader udhiyah qurbani qurbaani udhiya udhiyya kurbani muftis mawdu' mawdoo maudu mawdhu koran quraan al-quran surah sura soorah surat suwar soora madinah madina al-madinah madeenah yathrib salam as-salamu alaykum assalamu alaikum assalamualaikum salaams salam alaykum wa alaykum as-salam peace greetingDo you reject all hadith books, and how do you know how to pray? The circular argument
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machinesummary, machine-writtenThe guest rejects every hadith collection, including Nahj al-Balagha, as a source of religion, and says the objection that the Quran does not detail the five prayers is a circular argument built on fabricated details.
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Mufti Abu Layth reads a chat question asking whether the guest rejects all books of hadith or accepts some, such as the Nahj al-Balagha of Imam Ali. The guest says he rejects all hadith, including his own, as a source of the system, since God alone legislates, has no shortage of words and is not forgetful, so the detailed Quran suffices. Mufti then puts the common question of how the five prayers are determined without hadith. The guest gives his shorter answer: if praying according to the hadith books requires associating partners with God, oppressing women, stoning people and putting women in black sacks, a trail that leads to evil, he does not want that prayer, since the Quran says prayer should make a person more righteous. He says the demand to find the hadith description of prayer in the Quran is a circular argument that presupposes fabricated and contradictory details and then calls the Quran insufficient, and that the Quran's account of the Jewish rabbis and the heifer at the start of chapter 2 is given precisely as a warning against such frivolous detail.
Question as read aloud · questioner not identifiedDo you reject all books of hadith, or are there some you accept, such as Nahj al-Balagha? And how do you determine the five prayers?
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Jewish peacemaker in Medina they were all peacemaker it was a state of israei it's the ones who are making sin who are creating that verb in Arabic Islam is to say down yet to actually actualize film Salaam right okay a question here that just does the professor do you reject all books of hadith or there's some that you will accept like somebody has mentioned the mouth of Imam Ali I take it that you reject all listening I reject all hadees including my own hadees to be a source of system god only that it is God's machine and I would be
in a turmoil and in that only the Quran God doesn't listen God doesn't have shortage of words all the oceans seven oceans become an ink and all the forest all the trees become God words will not therefore God has no shortage of words God is not forgetful the quran' is mufasal' is enough for us the details we don't need it again you say well what about the players the karana this is another question right here that somebody said how do you determine the five prayers I knew that question would
come that's a common question to people who reject happy how do you respond to that because you must get that a lot yes I have a short answer a little bit longer s and which one should I give whichever one you comfortable with the shorter answer reverse and later if you needed so if if in order to pray according to your detailed description according to Hadees book according to the tray according to those books if I need to associate partners to God if I need to oppress women
if I need to probably get many fit blessings of God that God is not private if I need to stone people to death if I need to put a woman in a black sack if I need to become ignorant person interesting game yes I don't want to pray that trail then with that trail to tell that trail that trail leads me to become evil but the prayer in fact an Hanif aksha young honey - I will moon tell the trainer must be paid very smarter and astray a person more
righteous better treating people nicely respecting woman but I see in order to meet to pray according to this detail which is many many details contradictory details if I need to follow these books your prayer is for you I don't train but according to the Quran first of all you start with bargain say I already have the description of trail which is that you are lying you don't have really description you have many lies fabricated about trail and they are contradictory and you say find this one in the Quran if you cannot find
this fabricated hadith about prayer in the Quran then the Quran is not detailed enough well they were a circular argument first what is the prayer you say well the frame must have this many units who said that where do you get it you get it from your fabricated Hadees and you save my I cannot find my fabricated Hadees in the Quran therefore Quran is not detailed that is a false argument therefore according to the Quran the guiness of the fray of no it's not an issue like the color of hafer in the beginning of chapter 2 God doesn't for
just for fun give you example of Jewish rabbis creating frivolous details what did God tell them told that God told them to sacrifice a heifer there was a purpose because hateful was a symbol of their oppressors the Masters the pharaohs and they still had they in their mind they still heaven that is very interesting it was not a stupid ritual it was not because they needed blood and stuff because oh seriously the pharaohs they had Hafer and when they
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