Prof. Edip Yuksel | Rejecting Hadith, Rashad Khalifa & Realizing '19' | MindTrap with Mufti #27

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you can see professor a deep yüksel a philosopher right there the picture itself speaks volumes people you can see that somebody hailing from let's let's hear it from the professor himself from America bringing him in assalamu aleikum professor I don't see myself the professor can only professor can only see me through Skype unless you've got

another device that device you can okay now I I it is a delayed one but that's fine now I want to protest you and I don't like to be introduced like a heavyweight boxing champion is those kind of words or like a religious clergyman I am just a deep my first thing is a deep don't call me even professor I tell my students the rules ok I tell my students I say who is our

thirty in this classroom the first day of something like that after giving them some information about the syllabus stuff and now everyone says of course you know it is you who are the authority each of you individually independent free human being equal to me in this classroom therefore call me my first name it I am one of you I made a little bit more experience a little bit more kind of having self-esteem but that's all we are in the same boat we are all searching the truth together therefore honestly I don't like any of

those ostentatious name before and after especially clergyman of all sorts they like to be cold with long names you see their names in 1 meter long or fat the solo survival disease forget about those we are all equal we are all children of adam' specially in the context of politics from Asif II and religion my dear brother wish the name and the title of the person should be absolutely

irrelevant how injustice the the eye of the do you know the statue is blind means doesn't see the person here the cases regardless of the person the same about these subjects whoever said the title the age of that person or however the Honorable person is not important the words the statements will be equal to each other of course and which where it is better we follow that just right more absolutely absolutely before our viewers who may not have come across

professor at ebuy our brother a deep in Charlotte just for them a bit of background raining from originally from Turkey Kurdistan I believe but residing for many years in America Arizona the professor's is a leading professor in philosophy in Koran studies he has some amazing theories he's authored count innumerable works amongst them the reformists manifesto and also a reformist translation of the quran of the entire quran in addition to several

of the works all available on professor thebes website 19 oak which is another amazing project which you've been working on is that correct which one but the xix mystique of the 19 okay in case they're thinking in case they're thinking what is not it's a number of people it's a number okay most of your followers are from British correct they are American as well and global as well okay my accent is funny funnier than you think because it must

be I English astrologically is my fifth language the first language my mother tongue is Kurdish then I learn Turkish then Arabic Persian English these are the five languages but I cannot talk some of them well like my mother tongue Kurdish I understand more but I cannot talk much and also Arabic I can read right understand well better than 99% of Arabs maybe ninety-nine point some percent but I cannot talk much because I

haven't practiced and that is the language part as far as my work I have written most of my books in Turkish until age thirty but later I started writing in English translation of the Quran I have translated the Quran into two languages Turkish and English in fact there are many applications means the form applications on my translations but they are kind of not really well done they are recently cubed them the Turkish and English one you can see let's see

whether I can show you the English one you can download it right now the Android version is available at Google Play the iPhone not available yet it is hexagon colorful hexagon you see and the name is Quran with code 19 okay I don't know whether you saw it or not has some functions we are keep adding it oh I didn't do well because you didn't see the cover of it let me one more time check Asians with me please and at first

I want to show here I am it is delayed therefore I don't know how it show now it does show I can see okay here it is and I push it yes I saw that and I'll just show them as well you website I'll just bring that up for the people here that they can see that as well okay it's randomly opened let's say chapter 440 in the name of God the gracious the compassionate and the all other books I have written is 919 God's signature in

nature and scripture and running like zebras extensive debate on this subject and also war mongers translated

to English 19 question for atheist the tank questions were translated into English we needed to rush it for some reason and I don't make money from my books on religion by this way by the way let me tell you a gain in case you think I'm putting my books for money no for 30 plus years since I dedicated myself to God alone first of July 1986 I'm not making a penny on my book on religion or my top our religion nothing just the other way around I used my pocket money the money I

earned from other means I am a lawyer sometimes I give advice to law firms lawyers and also I am I teach philosophy and logic classes for 20 years our time and meanwhile I have also beltway's dot-org if you look at it I have a technology I am patenting and keep patenting right now I got some patterns and there are some patent pending it is a mass transportation the best mass transportation in the city's Beltway

Zork if you have people in right now we are looking for investors for the working prototype about 120 meters we want to put somewhere it accelerates the walk you wait we see walkways in airports it is fantastic great promise in mass transportation therefore I am not only involved in religion in philosophy and in law and in politics I am also involved in science

and technology I continuously educate myself about those topics and also currently if you want to know about the three projects I'm doing one is I am one is this project beltway's or as a rainbow corporation and also I am writing a documentary ten series we are going to propose to Netflix on 19 prophecies 19 prophecies and I have written a synopsis

of it for 20 page synopsis on 10 series and also another one right now I am involved with putting together a draft constitution for Turkey a peace Constitution in the past I have written articles on Constitution legal articles and symposiums at universities University of Arizona Princeton University and we put together all conferences at Oxford University two conferences as critical thinker for

Islamic reform and I also did have written together with my friend whose name is lace al-shabaab from Saudi Arabia the kiss maker Constitution that time we did it for Tunisian group who were kind of unfortunately they hopes they would work on a constitution at the time yeah it is you can see it the peacemakers Constitution at 19.4 you know and your books they are available what you've written for download on you on $19 give a not all of them there but you can see

it on internet everywhere like academia and many other places but I would like to organize all of them somewhere all be downloadable right now my 19.4 is revamped and I will put almost all of them there whichever is available for free I see I see but you've definitely got the a bit about each one on your website on 1900 I can see it there so yeah ok so professor right so this whole your one of your groundbreaking works a reformist translation

of the quran right first of all is this something you feel that there is a first first and foremost a strong need for this and secondly tell us a bit about this project well I did the work with dr. Rashad Haditha in 1989 to 1990 until he was assassinated yeah he was a mentor to you yeah he was a mentor and we were friends too and he was he acted like a father figure he helped me out and he

was do I really caused me to give up from Sunni religion which I bested pretty much and my father was the top clergyman in Turkey and I was friends close friends with the today's Turkish president aired on or double Tolu the former prime minister and many of the right you are the most friends with Erdogan of course we were from both neighborhood we were friends from the school we graduated from the same school high school and also in the party we were together I was above him in rank in fact way first time when he was got

arrested he followed one of my basically rallies and he was arrested because of that but at that time also we had differences he was morally mostly involved with the merchants he was collecting money organising house meetings for the party that time I was an activist on the streets and talking the bosses and theaters to people promoting irani like Islamic Revolution in Turkey and my brother got killed that time by nationalist racist in Turkey you

call them fascists yes and he's a he's a legend among Islamists in Turkey his name making you excel if you put it you will see hundreds of thousands of pages on him but my father was very well-known scholar top scholar in Turkey therefore I come from that family when I rejected the Sunni religion I was best-selling author in church here and there is some noise going on what's going on my dear friend it's that is that I think that's coming on from this past okay let's come to the

topic Quran when I look at the eye I said I work with Russia Khalifa and together he was being revising his own translation and I started doing the Turkish translation in 1989 we were next to each other in the same master Tucson from morning until until the night and we spent the seven days a week together and we were discussing each other's translation and giving feedback or debating on how the more accurate one should be therefore though I I learned a

lot from him at the same time I followed what I myself see it is important not to follow anyone blindly and he appreciate that one you also learn from me at the same time we were learning together but afterwards years later I found out there were some errors in our translations or when we first with time I'm learning because the Cheniere religion and culture has so much effect on us without even knowing we blindly kind of follow some things we understand differently you know wait for the viewers when you

say the Sunni religion you broke away from the Sunni really now because the only thing is so fast what is the key the key feature is about hadith is this what it is or do you mean something else well soon your religion means basically it starts from the Kelly the Kelly made it to hate or Shahada the distortion started with that they added Muhammad's name into it according to the Quran according to Muhammad it was later la la la la la la and period nothing Mohammed is ISA Musa

was not added to the name the messengers did not come to put remove the previous messengers name next to God and ISA did not come saying hey people it is no more like a shadow la ilaha illallah WA and Moosa Rasool Allah it is no more monstas name I am going to put down mooses name and I am going to put my name in the sign now the name of the story is God plus Issa and the Muhammad's didn't come saying well it says name next to God no

more put my name next to them they didn't compete with each other they don't fool each other in fact they said we we are all the same the Quran says do not make distinction among messengers they are all humans like you do not put them in competition therefore even the name Islam is changed distorted Islam today when we say it as if it is a brand name it is in capital letter we write now that is one of the major problem with the what is a think it is a it is named it is made as if it is a new thing not according to the Quran the previous

all the messengers of God all the monoface they were Muslims they were peacemakers you know Islam means peace making therefore when someone ask your religion don't say Islam in Arabic you are not speaking Arabic if you speak in Arabic say Islam means peace making in English peace making in Turkish I am Boris chair in Kurdish or shitty whatever anyway when I saw errors in my in translation Russia's transmission in my early translation I decided work on it and with time I I thought that it's very

important there was some very major errors and also in the footnotes when you say is so errors professor you mean errors by people in general who awesome were they specific people or you're saying everywhere these errors were widespread well in Russia Russia's transition is pretty accurate it is not come you cannot compare it with the Sunni translations therefore Prashad when try to understand the quran based on the Koran alone had opened the understanding of the Quran of course it

takes the time because our mind the broadcasting of the Quran is very clear but already it is not tuned well or in the background there are some or the battery is which it is because of us it takes some time to understand the verses clearly like the early Muslims into temp some kind the same with us and after a shot when I look at it there were also some errors in our translation and I decided to make it of course the Sunni or Shiite translations are filled with

major errors they are not mistakes accidental mistakes minor mistakes they are deliberate distortion they wanted to distort the message of the Quran turn it to a book of idol worship and ignorance it is absolutely the Muslim so-called Muslim world betrayed the Quran through Hadees and soon a fabrication of Hadees and Sunnah is major yes just just to what audience may be thinking these are some harsh words here that they betrayed

the Quran to you do you really feel that they betrayed the Quran with or is this something and a gradual institutionalization process or or is it a select few that did some propaganda and got it wise for me what do you because people listening to this may think well that's a bit of a loaded term no it's a conspiracy against Quran Hadees and sooner it is absolutely conspiracy against Quran deliberately done by the enemies of the Islam Quran and those people you may study history you may find them maybe Abu Sufian or Umayyads or some tribes

but they were not happy with how Islam eliminated the days of ignorance they were top and they were happy with their tribes and they had they could do whatever they want but Islam wrote egalitarian society rights for women and Freedoms and also sharing the wealth with other people all these things bother them but what they access into obviously with the opening of Mecca and it was my care was not conquered by

sward absolutely conquering by sewer the word for to heart or feta is also the concept is entirely distorted according to the Quran the fat who is opening it means opening it in peace because they lost the Battle of the mind the truth and the people embrace Islam because of its egalitarian and peaceful message because of these based on reasoning and searching the truth and therefore after that the whole

thing changing the Arabiya and no I I feel ok so from the prophet's lifetime moving on this tradition you feel quite early on people they were working to distort the overall narrative and the overall message for distort it for who distort it for the public distort it for them this is but doesn't doesn't this all sound a bit conspiratorial a bit hyper conspiracy theory listen it is easier for you guys for Sunnis and Shiites to believe that Christians

distorted the teaching of Jesus or Jewish people did that's true it is easy for us to see the problem with Christianity the idol worship the silly stuff but we don't see ours because we are born into that nonsense when you are willing to when the nonsense is peddle to you since childhood as a holy nonsense as holy truth and that we become blind to our problems and it is absolutely when you Luca had these there are all motives behind why those Hadees is fabricated first of all let me tell you as information Bihari

is the holy s--t Hadees book in the most so-called authentic hadees book in jr religion and Bukhari was compiled was supposed to written in 230 years after Prophet Muhammad in fact we don't have any archaeological are killed archaeological evidence for that either but assume that it is true there's 230 years now these are the books if you look at Hadees for example Hadees but maybe it is all political propaganda is a hundred percent agree with you on this thing but not only that let me tell you something let's say

Hadees is about dog that dog is killed a black dogs if you check it you will find out the person fabricate the Hadees with bitten or was kind of scared by black dogs this is there the way they justify whatever they have culture or their personal whims is tragedies even wanted the guy promote his date from his account called I he made up hadith way to promote political ideas your culture even your religion a lot of people Christians they supposedly in on the guise of being Muslim they fabricated

Hadees they imported their Christian or Jewish culture and religious dogmas into like like circumcision for example like rosary like many other from small to big it is all has reason or disease Sultan is oppressive want to kill people after let's say having them second commit Massacre well here it is there are people who will make a happiness he justifies Massacre say even a great venue Craig hold on Jenny Fraser and Venu Fraser is a big

lie just in order to justify their own massacres according to Quran the what is called in chapt captains in war you cannot kill them you cannot touch them you cannot try them even because it is war different circumstances you keep them either the end of the world you release them for free or do you during the war time you exchange them you cannot kill them but according to been equals a phrase a massacre Mohammed captured the basically the Jewish people they came down from their castle about

600 of them or 800 of them basically Massacre all of them and this is what to justify the Kings Familia Dora Bassett and later Ottoman Kings that okay Mohammed did this he killed people we can't kill the same way or Mohammed killed the woman who is criticizing him because supposedly she insulted Mohammed yes according to the Quran they can insult there is no religion a punishment for insult someone insult your religion your God according to the chapter 4 verse 140 you just say peace you live if they are making mockery and then you go

back again you continue discussing if they are not making mockery that's it but like I agree with you on you know many of these things that you've cited but I'm curious that would you feel that 100 percent of hadith are fabricated or do you feel it's that not 100 percent but it's just that because we can't distinguish therefore we're not going to get engaged with with this with this resource is this which one of the two camps do you just feel that hadith is just like an evil Enterprise which

altogether it has zero percent validity to it or do you know good question good question I do I don't claim that all evil now in fact in order to evil Satan to fool people the Quran says yet we soon adoptable the bottle to mix the truth with a falsehood this is what us a lot of candies inside the candy put the poison there are some good word statements a lot of good statements in Hadees books we cannot be never be sure whether Muhammad said it

or not but we can say some of these perhaps Muhammad said it because they are nice word be nice to your neighbor smile to your neighbor good thing there's not there is nothing wrong with that but you can find this statement in Chinese proverb - in many fiction books you can find many statements the same even much better than hadees therefore first of all whether the words of Muhammad even we hear today whether it can be the source of our system Islam no the Quran says no the Quran says no and Muhammad believed in the Quran Muhammad never claimed that his own words is a

source of sharia or system a source of Dean because mullah seen le hood Dean we are asked Muhammad also asked to follow to Paris a Jew to have dedicate the system only to God alone therefore the soul in a Luke wheeler Lila I mean that is true you know you get should I cannot share I would mean a beanie magnate yes I'm villa which

versus the zealous 42 chapter 42 verse 21 it rejects any other besides God to be the source of Sharia laws and therefore Muhammad was only messenger as a messenger he was only limited his job as a messenger to deliver the message Vimala rasool e the messenger has no duty Allah except el Bella delivering the message which the Quran says chapter 6 verse nineteen that is the Quran or chapter 25 verse 30 yes

no because I was gonna say that yes many academics today Fred Donna amongst them who has a book as well saying this very same thing that seems that in the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad Sal Allahu Allahu Allah he had a movement which is like he's saying that yes it's you know Islam is it but Islam is slightly an institutionalization version of it that if anything you'd call that early movement the believers movement and he caught me and his book Mohammed amongst the the believers now he this is what he's arguing that he's found they found

certain documents which will have things like la ilaha illallah but they won't mess they won't mention the prophets name with it like that obviously they do except the Prophet but it's more a it seems that this is more just in line with the early Abrahamic traditions just coming along and some early Christians I believe John of Damascus also described in Krish Muslims as a fringe Christian faction he says that you know these seem to be a strange type of Christians so there is some of this kind of work which resonates with what you're saying

yeah can you look at involved on this subject is very important 18 according to the Quran Muhammad has several roles he was also a leader a prophet you know a living prophet leader of believers therefore when they had a major issues they came to him he would be the judge among them they had to accept his judgment yeah and therefore the verses is about a live Prophet Muhammad of listening live to the people of God and making judgment you will not suppose

after his death you cannot have Muhammad listening to your sides therefore it's absolutely that was limited with his lifetime as leader but he was also as a husband but I do not feel that as he was the Prophet was living amongst the believers tending to their daily affairs tending to things dear is it not very reasonable and rational that he was passing judgments on things people were asking him can you can you judge between us on this matter can you decide this of course of course so would like the brass would these rods not be conveyed nope the dis Murray is

there comes space place specific it is geography person specific right now we are live we don't consult a dead person to listen to us and to listen to detailed and issues between people therefore absolutely it is wrong when now we have people elected people or judges will listen to us we should have them and then we listen we'll follow their judgment we should have people live people to listen to live events by this way we are basically we're dynamics we are living the time changes the

conditions changes by making Prophet Muhammad as God because we say we cannot be dying which keep him alive as if he knows the future he knows everything he knows us he knows our troubles he knows our issues no it is big it is really betrayal of the truth it is perceiving Mohammed as God no the Quran says when the Khmer you turn away now militant you will die and they will be dying too and therefore Muhammad's role several old he was husband but why we save Quran talks but Muhammad's a little bit private life because give us an example

there will be leaders after Mohammed about public personalities we need to be respectful about their privacy's but it gives us example about how we should treat our leaders and how should they treat us and these are the things for example the Quran says Muhammad had move ayah with women very interesting mabye it is first time woman voting in fact as far as I know muhammad woman voted muhammad it's not bad but soon is a shia-sunni tube AI one

way the below people giving promised to follow the orders of the rulers no no no it is not that it is mobile i will find it is too way to direction muhammad they promised to be just to be just to be truthful not to steal from public things he gave promised to them and they gave promise to muhammad so just who is to be a slave for people the distinction you're drawing between i think it's it's a very interesting point drawing a distinction between mobile and they are as it came to be understood in the

institutionalized version where certain people they pledged an allegiance to an authority here the prophet it is a sense of recipe a reciprocal action that the prophets give-and-take that's what you're saying absolutely here is one important verse well a I see make a female roof in it is about leader Mohammed whether you see naked they should not rebel against you female roofing in the things that is known that you're right yet his now roof means the things that is known by this condition

leave open means they could rebell againist you if you have something not malroux not acceptable therefore it is very obvious Muhammad was not a tyrant he had to consult the Quran says we share will kill angry you know Muhammad was elected by people and there was to weigh it is a social contract between people including woman voted for Muhammad and then in that social country there were Jewish people did not accept Rama's prophethood in Medina and the Christians they did not accept him to be prophet the the mushriks there the

pagans there did not accept him to be prophet of God but the exciting me is a leader George Lee the vase they expect them to be judge leader that's it but that leadership left with the Prophet Muhammad's death he is no more our leader he's dead put in your mind he's not God and Muhammad messengership is finished and says fully for a Alea healthy taboo Vera become women Bela chapter 6 verse 19 say this book is given to me to deliver to you and those who will be receiving that is and now

when we receive the Quran he's done his messengership therefore obeying God and messenger doesn't mean obeying God and Buhari obeying God his Abu this evening no I see like I agree with you on the idealization of bihari and making Islam Bihari centric and in fact I have an a whole thing dedicated called Bihari gate and the whole thing of the problems with Sal Bihari but on this note are you just to be clear are you stating that we have the Quran we have hispanica table but we can still do HD hard with it with day to

day issues so we use the Quran and take guidance if you are arguing that then is this top is this concept or tool of which they had not what we learnt from the Prophet himself no it is the process at the prom the verses of the Quran says Bayern Alina's these four people the Patea center for analytic refinement move back here we made the Quran easy to take advice from to learn from is he made it easy and repeats this four times Keith Urban will be in says it is obvious and you say no it is not obvious we say God you are telling us wrong it

is difficult to understand when you believe it is when you reject the verses of the Quran clear verses of the Quran the Quran becomes invisible to you you will not be able to understand the Quran you will not have access to Quran because your intention is bad you think that it is not understandable absolutely you handicap yourself mental and psychologically you will never be able to understand the quran and i have tests in the in my classroom sometimes to teach students if you mentally say this is difficult it becomes difficult sometimes impossible the simplest ask

that elementary schools can can solve the problem my students in college students they are not because i pass them through certain steps and then they think the next question is more difficult than previous one in fact it is very small if you think it is difficult to walk you won't be able to walk and therefore the famous quote that you know if you believe you can know you believe you can't either way you'll probably right yeah especially the Quran is a miraculous book divine book some people look at it is a book is kind of

disorganized full of some hell and this and these simple things if you look at the Quran you can see two things one is an incredible mathematically designed full of scientific information full of layers of information the meaning of the words I have given many examples in nineteen questions for ATS about the language of the Quran but at the same time if you don't want to see it absolutely you will not see it you will see every bad things there you will not see the gods name that is Rahman al

Rahim repeated or the derivatives of Rama most in the Quran most than any other world but you will see few hell and stuff you will say well there is no mercy in this book if you want to see it you will ignore the rest you will see what you want but if you object look at the Quran is a very incredible wonderful book I mean but absolutely I mean nobody is no Muslim is going to deny the professor but on this hadith in a final question on this thing not to pester you on it but just because our viewers may

be wondering do you you see if you are saying that we dismiss disc all hadith based on the fact that this is what I want to clarify is it that we are saying 0% these are not true and even though there may be some nice things like you said like smile to your neighbor but this is general human common sense that people say things like these Chinese proverbs like you said say or is it that you are saying no there may be some real teachings from the Prophet here but because we can't

distinguish today and I'm a 4 Way suspicious no first of all because there would you not say there are historical hadith which in light of history we now know that must have occurred like so for example stories to do with let's say certain contemporary rulers and the Prophet speaking around this time now we know through historical kind of evidence these rulers did exist and certain let's say the the curser of of Persia Sassanid Empire he died at a certain time the Prophet said something his daughter had actually become the next ruler oh you've got her a curious for example the

prophets letter to her at leas now there are and there are other examples as well many examples where we can say well actually you know what these do seem to denote what was you know here's some historical accuracy would you not agree listen the history you may look at it as a historical piece full of lies and distortions and there would be some truth in it of course if you are a historian critically you can review it you can check you can come up with some ideas but it is Zen it is ultimately it is not hundred-percent to prove that it

is exactly from Prophet Muhammad even if it is let's say even if we know that Prophet Muhammad they talked that word is not my religion and he would never claim such because he believed the Quran he believed that the Quran is alone is sufficient to guide the Quran is mabini's mufasa the source of system is God alone not him his job was only to deliver the Quran not to add not to change not to destroy subtract not to do its Nessa but this hadees basically they give Prophet Mohammed the power to be God besides God he never claimed such it it

is it is basically Mohammed in the day of judgment will reject these people who think they respect they love Mohammed how he will reject Mahara rasulu now rugby in that home attacker to Heather for anime Juara oh my lord the resume will say my lord my people have deserted the Quran it doesn't say Quran plus my Hadees my son and stuff because these people deserted the Quran they made Mohammed again is the Quran dear Mohammed is not Prophet Muhammad there Muhammad is in like a Greek god mix it is with many faces with multiple

personalities one of them is more merciful than God in the so called Miraj Hadees near Raj he goes up in the sixth sky is called six heaven and debate with God negotiate about the number of players but gets advice from the city no no seventh heaven correct something in the six heaven is Moses waiting and Moses is the advisor to Prophet Muhammad and look at his whatever made this up Muhammad gets down from the sixth and seventh heaven down Moses asked him what happened he says well I got fifty

prayers a day but it's not fifty units it is fifty prayers a day means every 28 minutes in 24 hours day and night every 28 minute is one another prayer they they have watched like us how they could even calculate 28 minutes maybe in what Prophet Muhammad says according to that Hadees God burdened us beyond our capacity but the process now you can live for why Nelson illa wus are in this part of these Hadees this verse is rejected says no God really gave us something that we cannot make it and Muhammad cannot think can

calculate somehow according to these Hadees his brain is not smart enough below IQ level is low Hacha and then Moses says o Muhammad your people cannot do all our you're right Moses oh thank you for telling me I'm going up Moses telling go up negotiating with God and goes up and then comes down Moses says what happened now it is full day they have 40 prayers that they Mohammed says Moses says that's one is even too much too many go up and negotiate Mohammed follow Moses advice instruction like a what is union leader

but getting advice from Moses up and down negotiate with God who is a boss merciless boss doesn't you want to give us a lot of coal yeah and therefore it comes down with five Moses says even this one is too much Mohammed says I am embarrassed now negotiating with God in one way Mohammed is more merciful than God but at the other hand Mohammed is chopping health arms and legs of people gouging their eyes with hot nail in a woman are two horses and split into two

pieces or send Assyria and kill a wonderful head of the horse one Muhammad in one hand is merciful and the other is a psychopath in one day he is a noble very righteous person on the other end is this sexual maniac marries a girl with six or say nine years old while he's 54 years old he's a dear understand I you know all of all of these things you're saying I 100% agree with all these kind of concepts that you're saying about look at like the hadith of Miraj how it distorts the how it's just

absurd and how the concept that the Prophet married a child or how he's tortured the people of arena and all of these I've actually personally spoken about in the past dismissed them as false narrations and I agree with you on all of these matters that I suppose the distinction is I but I say that there is something called a living tradition which was passed down and it was was captured within things like firkin and and somehow these have captured it as well but every time we read a hadith I I followed the understanding that it should be measured against the three that lamu by Anil

McCool lemme holla filmin all Alamein ocotillo soul and then we can accept it if it doesn't go against reason or the Quran my brother please this is a poisonous god pile of garbage there are some you see listen you see some beans there some piece of bread there and some vegetables that you see well this is not rotten and this meat is not smelly stinking I'm going to jeez that is poisonous stop wiggling around this garbage like a fly you will not get

something truth the Quran says and in the Sunnah leg uni meaning here is a question for you the Quran says if someone falsely accuse someone of adultery and it is shown that it is false witness testimony what the Quran says about that person about that witness I mean they it would either be if a person if they if they do cause if they accuse chaste women of something they can't provide witnesses they are punished for that their polish and never

accept any more testimony from them you remember a little much now this guy this bihari guy or abu huraira guy whoever they are I don't care but it is when we see it is about the books about the narrations from there we see them not only one false accusation to God and Mohammed we see major lies contradictions and obvious small one except for example they have even fabricated the verse a sheikh who has shaken is as energy boom and better there and they couldn't user to the Quran and they say well it was written on the Quran

it was written on a letter it was under Ayesha's bed and then after prophet mohammed a hungry goat ate it and therefore now you know it doesn't happy voice oh yeah it seems I believe I think it's in even imagined say I think yes yes and but not only in imagine the others also referred to like Omar says if people did not say Omer is adding to the Quran I would add this a shake-a shake-a that is ayat al rajim in the brother for it is in other books also it is justified now imagine they made up

even adverse and they couldn't assert it after prophet mohammed look at the problems and thereafter prophet mohammed a hungry god eat it and it is man so from Quran it is taken out of the Quran then the Musab but it is still valid and they kill people many many thousands of people were killed in barbaric way because of this now this guy falsely accused guy that caused people's life that made turn people's wounds like two miserable life that may make dogs will be killed and make people not benefiting

from music even they make music Haram even playing chess Haram basically they made up so many lies they've turned people millions of people life into hell and you still say well I know these are lies but we still go in this book will find our religion will try to understand Quran according to these Liars this big big liars but the Quran says you know falsely accusing one person yeah will hurt that person alone even that one you'd never listen to their testimony again you never trust the testimony of that person who by the

ones but this one is making big lives and for generations and generations cross geography all around the world turn people's life into hell made people get killed and how in the world you give them credibility you say Quran plus Bukhari who is the you've gotten in your Prophet Muhammad how you go still around like a fly try to find some protein in that garbage no you will find listen let me challenge you those people who follow Hadees you see how these explains the Quran so far I challenge them find me a Hadees explain to Quran not a single Hadees not

a single Hadees that explains the Quran just other way or not at this distorts the Quran let me tell you there are 29 chapters starts with the letters something needs explanation goodness a you mean okay 29 chapters start with this and 19 chapters have independent verse these letters are independent verse where this hadees explained the quran this is the most curious that we are and how do they explain it

let it explain this one once I asked people I cherish them I said boring me what yeah why do we feel that that is the ultimate litmus test to prove the validity of Haditha because even the Quran doesn't explain that horizon okay oh you feel it 6.0 K that's it we have three meanings or B 3 means fantastic yeah that's interesting what what our of curiosity what are these the the explanations I will come today okay we can come back don't don't forget write it down

somewhere okay here I want to challenge my brothers and sisters who follow the Hadees and Youth Kara Hadees and you have to read in the Quran interesting means miraculously the word Hadees whenever is used other than the Quran is almost always it is negative it is for the Quran is a senora DS the best ADIZ for the Quran for the other Hadees and you stir all made up fabricated Hadees in another place hey BAE hadith in BA the more we're a year aluminum which had is

besides God and his signs after God and his signs they will believe they will trust and the word Hadees is a negative in fact there are two had the world Hadees is used in connection with Prophet Muhammad's words they're interesting prophetically they are in negative way in one of them the listening of that Hadees is prohibited people are criticized for listening to those because they were private in other one it is the distribution of it is courtesy well for in order narration of

Hadees happen one even if Allah must hear ever fella must relate to another person these two things prophetically is criticizing the Quran and the word Sunnah - according to the Quran Sunnah means law and the only valid law is Sunnah to last in the to last Natoma well intentionally Susan today Kapila miss Jenny nowhere in the Quran the Signet use is for Sunita Mohammed know where it was that is true because a term that comes about much later on yeah the fabricator of Hadees and sooner they were ignorant of the Quran or they were

the enemy of the Quran they weren't exactly directly like that diametrically again is to Quran verse is very cleaver I mean you know this these things this is you see these things like rulings which come from in hadith and you can understand why people may manipulate rulings and they may manipulate some events like you said for political prowess or usage but there are so many other things as well like like just descriptions things like like the the fact that the Prophet lived in Makkah the fact that he grew up in Makkah the fact that these things all come to us through these descriptions the fact that he you know this thing of the the

migration the fact of all I I know you can get some inferences of the migration from the Quran but Medina or anything all of this yes rib for example the problem is not you need that my brother these not needed for our salvation now these you may you may like it as a historian of course there's a story you will critically look at it you will find a lot of lies and distortions a lot of exaggerations and some truth to archaeological evidence of course I also look at Hadees about the language that used when this Hadees was fabricated how the transformation of her for example a

shape who a shaker - it shows that whoever fabricated these hadees attribute to God had different by leg than the Quran because the Quran according to Quran would shake means that the old person but according to this Hadees it meant the married person not the old person for example the language change therefore you may get about the information about the culture of the people who fabricated the Hadees or the political problems for example study of many Hadees it shows where these Hadees was fabricated it is

description of the king or the government of that place Hadees they made it comes in Yemen in Basra true fair Mecca correct and sharm Damascus in all these places because those fabricated during the time by people who lived in that in those area okay I was going to say you know you mentioned something there just a little while back about NASA this whole concept of mass and this is once again an area of great interest for you that there was no such thing as NASA because we're just looking

at the Quran from your perspective which is focusing on the Quran does the Quran allow a concept of abrogation does it allow it to abrogate itself for example you're very vocal on this position you fear that this is not this is absolutely made of this concept yeah I'm taking some notes I don't want to because I see okay yes of course it is one of the major fabrication conspiracy and hostility against the Quran the Quran

now may be the most read book about lease understood and the most betrayed book and they have by distorting the meaning of some verses and they created the idea of NASA by this way they claim there are contradictions in the Quran why the Quran chapter 4 verse ad to see says when can I mean I be a relay the wager to feel fear 11 kathira yeah if it was from other than God they would find many contradictions in the book they say yes there are many contradictions of

course they say and here it is this verse is contradicting this one therefore this came after this one swabbing rule is another way of distorting the Quran and I said and they used the worst man and Tuchman ayat in omens are not evil and they say therefore this world after one this contradicts that one therefore his men so first of all they don't understand the verse of the Quran because they say the Quran is difficult the Quran they don't believe God's words therefore they between them and the Quran during the hijab and the Quran

says they a master ll ma Haroon only clean people their mind clean they understand if they're called mind promoted with lies with Hadees with zan with dogmas of course you will not be understanding the Quran and therefore they don't understand the verses of the Quran they say well this contradict the other because they don't understand and they say well one of them is making the other abrogate and the other not only that they went even further they say hadith sahih hadith it contradicts the verses of the Quran sahih hadith nesic do abrogate means nullify the verses of

the Quran you know that this is inanimate they do yeah yeah the Hanafi make a distinction and say they say no but the rest of them do accept it much more saying as soon as a whole Quran as Chev writes that it does Shafi was the enemy of Quran he was the first promoter of course he was the enemy of Quran yeah he was the enemy of ever honey honey it was a movie he believed in Quran alone he didn't follow Hadees therefore during his time abu hanifa it was accused of if his son did

he used to be done and then Shafi in fact sheffy early Shafi they were not trained after Hannifin people who followed his ideas were supporters of him Muhammad did not really establish the sect of Hanafy it was after him because he was a popular person he was a hero of moral things under his name they hijacked his name they created a fake Messiah I mess up after him but let's come back to Nasser the one of the verses is used is this one man and Seminary eighteen Avenue see her

negatively failing min hair Oh Mickey had this is chapter 2 verse 106 correct yep I believe it's surah bakra yes it's - yeah yeah how is traditionally this is translated or kept sealed on yes so traditionally and I and I personally do also find issues with some of the traditional kind of translations for this not translation but the interpretation of it they tend to say that man and surfman ayat in own uncia that they the claim is that a lie saying

that we do not abrogate an answer from the terminus of a a verse all caused people to forget it now i have said because that even traditionally even though i'm not personally against abrogation but i've said that this verse doesn't really prove that and it comes in the context as well speaking about bani israeel and all these things so but that's how people traditionally understood it that they're trying to say saying we don't make people forget a verse and from here they built a belief or they use this to justify the belief that some verses of the Koran were

lifted which once again I completely disagree with but people feel this there's things which are more for at Halawa so they used to be they were like Andrew fat Allah lifted the verses yep so okay here it is the word are yet this is singular form ayah the Quran is very interesting book and it makes so much extra meaning at once sometimes between plural and singular form the usage of the Quran we need to pay attention when I look at the word ayat

in singular form it is mentioned in the Quran 84 times the word ayah the word are yet I don't remember how many times but perhaps it is more it is mentioned in the Quran ayat is the plural of Aria I am inside evidence proof are yet means evidences signs proofs plural now in this verse it is said are yet when you look at the Quran throughout the Quran the word IH it means miracle signs not the verses of the Quran never ever in this one let's say we don't know eggs maybe

another verse you may have questioned but in all other you will see all the translation they understand they translated as miracle yeah just to clarify to the viewers that what that the term ayah on its own no if you read a science has a timer boot at the end or the plural are yet but ayah which comes 84 times in the Quran putting this one time aside because that's what we're discussing but the remaining 83 it's always speaking about a sign it's never speaking about a verse of the Quran which we also call today an ayah maybe when it comes in the plural form it is

referring to the ayat of the Quran but not in the singular form in mashallah now the world our yard it all sorry to miracles signs and also verses of the Quran the plural in fact implicitly these Kalos one verse of the Quran is not enough to be an alia a sign because it doesn't have the copyright like there is a verse of the quran says fayette as abu where are you going and this is not by itself you cannot say this is a miraculous word of god because it's not sufficient it must be minimum three verses in order to have a

copyright this divine mathematical structure is embedded in it of course you may a problem with mathematics some of you will hear mathematics oh my god God is above mathematics and not no mathematics God is a great literary person poetry great but mathematics oh my gosh is Haram cannot that's an interesting take by the way about the three verses of the hence the challenges for the three absolutely I never I've never come across that before that's the minimum chapter illegally it says three verse not true therefore up to therefore in traverse

there will be such a sign in it miraculous sign that it will be he say this cannot be made by human but one or two verse will be able to do by human or randomly people can come up with it you can find many short verses in the Quran goodness sake even mo Jade was talking those words you cannot say this word of god by alone therefore it needs to be minimum until be copyrighted by God now therefore when you go back to that verse it is about miracles for example Moses miracle part of the Red Sea for us it is

not miracle it is a narration of Morocco it's not an all extraordinary event that we are witnessing therefore it is not a sign what is only required is Sun therefore why should I believe why should I believe therefore Moses the dope people in that time they watch it and later it is forgotten or it disappeared became NASA and God says if some mirror that is forgotten or the time passed it was time limited God will bring another miracle sign extraordinary evidence to prove that this is his word and the

Quran has this miracle in fact a professional miracle the mathematical structure of the Quran incredible I want to come to that as well professor about the mathematical thing just before we go to that a quick question then you see if let's say we don't accept abrogation momentarily of the Quran you are presumably you would agree with me that things like slavery today is abrogated now I have argued that slavery is abrogated by trajectory hermeneutics

that this is what the Sharia would have wanted once humanity reaches that stage it becomes abrogated because the Quran does not although it it does encourage freeing slaves but it does not categorically in any way ban slavery so far did I just come running into it okay

enlighten us professor because I would love to hear that the other the other understanding I just said you just said two times two is three but it could before it can't before it's not okay you Quran rejects the idea of slavery not a simple sin not a simple crime it is the biggest crime according to Quran the slavery because slavery according to Quran is idol worship if you have my brother lace if you have your own slave what you that slave will be Abdul lace

you will call him AB delayed and here you will be cold rub if rug boo pelant correct therefore you will be a Pharaoh if you have a slave according to the language of the Quran because red means mode admin slave basically slavery is declaring to be the god of another person therefore Pharaoh is declaring the Quran one of the worst people on earth Moses was anti-slavery for freedom Nayla hey Lala reject slavery because Lyle ain't no God besides God but you say

well I say this but I will be the god the Rabb of this but the crime here Baba now just just on that now arguably the historian state that the Israelites were never slaves in Egypt history seems to show that they were second-class citizens they lived in Rome Isis and places like this but they were never actually slaves of the fair I don't believe in historians I do think that God's Word no no historians they make up a lot of historians psychologists take them take words with a mountain of salt not with

grain of salt with mountain on salt they would they were slaves of course I have note that because the mathematically proving book divine book tells me so therefore historians they discuss on every issue they have so many contradictions she if you hear a Turkish historian versus Kurdish you are happy stories they tell the story very differently so what verse of the Quran do you feel is is prohibiting slavery slavery Leyla Lama and a baboon Allah a

there is no rub besides God therefore when you claim that you are right then you declare that you are Pharaoh that you are like Pharaoh and this is the biggest thing but there are so many verses saying things like you know about your slave giving certain no no no no it is mistranslation Malik at a man who come for example is translated those who are under your hand those your slave absolutely mistranslation you know arabic correct you would a man the world a man anywhere in the Quran in plural form it means what you know it means your contracts this is contractual relation besides

different than marriage marriage with the free pure person is called Nietzsche and in this one this is contractual married means someone is slave you free that slave you married that one because of that past psychologically socially they have been slave in order to distinguish because they will be treated with more leniency if they let's say commit adultery they will have less penalty because they would want slave they have less personal self-confidence they have they have the trauma in their lives therefore it is

called contractual marriage and also do you know more times someone from the other party opposing party in any party a woman it comes and join peacemakers and that person is not divorced from the husband legally leave because the Quran accepts the reality of their marriage but this it is exist a different exceptional circumstance and you can marry with that person it is called contractual marriage it's kind of little I'm ethic something what people call concubines sometimes and I agree with

you that term doesn't fit it is like a it's like a secondary status wife it's like a white bed no no this Quran is like a common-law marriage you know in even in Allah we have legally married person and also common-law marriage they don't have formal marriage but for all purposes they are considered married people and similarly in the Quran is contractual married because of the circumstances and there is other person's two people with their free will they married in order another person in order to free them you marry them and

your contractual relationship with them therefore in order to Demark to distinguish them the detail a little bit more I mean slavegirls thing okay put that aside slavery as a whole as a genre you know in countless verses like abdomen hey dummy mush you know but Pheebs it doesn't mean chronic now improves theft the Quran but calling murder it talks about murderers it doesn't mean it justifies the Quran talks about slaves who are the slave of others because they

were Jewish people Christians [ __ ] they have their own slaves and the Muslims could not force them the only way too soon will do go buy their slaves and release their slaves this will do if they for example Muslim and let's say do not pass Ramazan and it what yeah Teredo Raqqa be it is not their own they cannot have slave a Muslim cannot have a slave because it is become sheared but we'll find a slate there are other populations other communities unfortunately they enslave people go purchase their slave

and free that person to Aqaba mashallah now so up i understand that and i would agree with you to the extent that Quran clearly encourages I don't think people could deny by reading the Quran that encourages the Haleiwa Aqaba that encourages freeing slaves and it's liek I mean the difference is I would say it's setting the trajectory for complete emancipation although it hasn't actualized in the life of the Prophet but you're arguing live the life of the Prophet usually reason what you are poisoned by the book that you have read

that says absolutely my brother again please focus about the word Rabb the Quran says there is no rat besides God in fact there is one more one miss translation of verse in Chapter clearly not speaking about [ __ ] what what you thought you know our bobbum Allah is this not clearly speaking about worshipping as opposed to the concept like Ronald rabbit the Rebbe in the Quran always used for God alone and it is absolutely rejected the idea of any Arab besides

God and only there is only one rat and therefore if you say an Arab Pokemon era and a rabu kome like Pharoah said I am your Lord Pharaoh did not mean that he created people he was not as stupid he didn't say that he was talking about that he holds he controls their life he is the one decides for them this is to be a slave owner and therefore Jesus according to Quran shield you don't need to be shared can say I created you you say I am your controller I control your life you are my AB if you say you are my

app to anyone what if you say that to your children is that [ __ ] my document I'm just saying if you you know you created your children and you control their lives well state no no you cannot you cannot claim them you cannot claim for example I left my children to be questioning me from early age you never become like your father just because your father is like I do not want them to become a monitoring station monitor is because I am I said you will be kind of a monkey I don't want to be the father of monkeys think for yourself

that that's the way I see so ok so you feel that in the you know if let's say the Prophet and let's say Islam in the prophets lifetime clearly prohibited and clearly banned outlawed slavery what two questions one why is there no clear verse about it - why if this is such a global phenomenon why did all the people the Muslims encountered like Christians Zoroastrians Persians not document this in the history saying these are a strange people they outlaw slavery in

fact they say Muslims had slaves no my brother first of all you are reading stories where ever you are reading you are not hundred percent who wrote it when time was written it whether it is true or not but when you look at the Quran if the Quran is a source we look at it cool I look at the Quran I'm talking about the Quran I am NOT I am talking about Muhammad who is according to the Quran that Muhammad according to Bukhari o-5 according to this guy that guy now Muhammad according to Quran was number one again in slavery because he didn't accept anyone to be wrapped besides God

therefore only one rap if that is you say one rap only God if you claim to be rap besides God if you say you are my ad you are my slave means you call that person instead of Abdullah you say you are Abdul eggs and I am your read the Quran - Quran it is clearly you are being shipped and you are following Pharaoh isn't this enough you see it is not a prohibited this is more is not a simple sin this is the only unfair unforgivable sin Brizzy categorically

slavery is much bigger sin than drinking alcohol or killing a person this is categorically unforgivable sin I hope we say I would agree with you that slavery once it was a polished easter but you know this thing of rub is this I understand not calling somebody for example the saying look he's after lathe because he's my slave I understand that part I would agree with you but the term rub as a linguistic term like is that not common in Arabic like for a woman rebuttal bait or even in other languages like English master calling a girl as a

verb it is used rub and rub air come something because there are any severe oh yeah yeah yeah be honest anyway about the parents it's huge listen pay attention as a verb is you know but not as a noun because there are differences between for example you may do Rama your home run man but you cannot call yourself Ramon you cannot use the word drama for yourself all right but even Allah say about the Prophet as easy no no no filming in are all right

it is not a person it is a addition to the Mossad these are two Hadees edit to the manuscript you found it yourself very interesting yes I'm pleasantly fix now tea and other timely discuss yeah okay so we'll come back to that then some of the point okay yeah let's go back to that one and about for example you write someone writes letters so

write article but in order to be writer is little different when you say I am writer it is a professional stuff but because an elementary school kid can write cannot say I am right at all you cannot say he's right okay the same way it was about rap to be right according to the Quran is only for God it is very clearly religion if you look at the reputation of it look at it about 900 some kinds is mentioned in more than 950 times and all of them you will see exclusively it is used for God and the others for other

okay what about what about Yusuf Ali Salaam telling the person a Maha do kuma for yes clear Abajo hammerin that he will you know when he's interpreting the dream in the Quran he says one of you will give his master alcohol to drink the term robber who is used I mean is this not in our said very nice so is that so in Arabic the term when it's used I would understand that the context people can understand when you mean like a rub for a but when you mean like you know like like a like an English master

like in the past we don't use it today so much but in the past classical English when they used to say Oh master meaning like in Arabic today say it or in like in or do they use sometimes for somebody who owns a place Malik which also is one of the themes of like they use the same word for Allah saying Malik will take care of us but they might say is is the Malik at home meaning the one who owns the property so like from the Arabic word Malik so I'm thinking is this really such a big deal because when Allah saying our Bible my Allah it's clear this is about shirk

it's not talking about you know tenancy like landlords and even in English today the term landlord landlord yeah I don't use that word it is bad word we don't want to confuse God's attribute with humans the word Rabb is exclusively used for God and when more when Joseph says this Joseph he is talking to an idol worship curve because the same chapter both Joseph telling air valve Allah there is no rubs besides listen say chapter goodness sake how can you miss it how Joseph can't call others he's all

right he doesn't call his rap he says your rap you are worshipping that person because you accepted to be a nabbed of someone else you should not do but it is the reality allow cool hey for example of being left home while in my chopper doing I mean doing it yeah this is about when everyone talks about me I always say their idols yeah it doesn't mean that he accepted idols when Joseph talks about his wrath he talks about in a as I told you in the beginning one verse is mistranslated he's only one verse about

wealth in Nairobi Joseph says he is my lord it is translated as if Joseph is referring to the Aziz how do you say the governor no he's not he's talking about God he's on board Robby because in other words clearly says he only accepts God as his right not anyone else very clear okay let's skip this one and you had one question no I said one question that why not mention the abolition of slavery in

clear words in the Quran gosh that means all the words I'm telling you is no I mean no I accept that I accept all of these now I accept all of these but I'm just saying somebody would ask this question since it's such a big deal why not just say you know that's it do not obtain I'm saying if you read the Quran understand lay the lines abolishment of slavery finished la la la la because it is categorically if you are claiming that you have AB do you have slave you are claiming to be red rub to be God God says lay like

there is no God besides God but you claim to be God besides God what is your problem this is [ __ ] he's not a small thing so cannot be clear then I get that I get that cool okay right this the this thing moving about the miraculous kind of holistic nature of the Quran professor number 19 this is something that you have authored to be a miracle of the divine not only in nature but also in scripture in fact that's one of the titles I believe of of one of your

works as well tell us a bit about this what why the number 19 I know in the Quran it does say about the description of hell Ali Hatice after Russia that has 19 on it and being a bit vague what is 19 people say always the angels or guardians of hell or 19 and and then you've highlighted that look even things like bismillah r-rahman Rahim has 19 in how it's written 19 letters and and other miracles numerical miracles in the Quran is this at first of all tell us in

your words a bit about this well I think it is a topic for whole a new session that we do together on this subject because it's so important it is message for this time and it's very controversial and it proves that the Quran is Word of God it proves that letter by letter it is protected not by a bow fell on evening fell on by God lon according to a code which has error correction function and the same Muslims

they easily say Quran is Word of God but you ask them why do you note that this word of God or take any chapters from it how do you prove that this word of God it is a extraordinary claim you are making you say it is not a human may well this human language it looks like sounds like any other what what is the what is what is big deal is great the biggest claim that you can make and you don't have even an ordinary evidence forget about it let alone an extraordinary evidence well says it is literally miracle you are a literary

expert professor of better than ebu jail and a bullhead maria okay tell me tell me what are these miracles what is the standard your literary excellence do you have any objective standard no because I like it well you like some poetry or some book some fiction it doesn't make it word of God you're like is not an extraordinary like it's not in evidence therefore if you ask I challenge all the Muslim scholars we escape from this number 19 like zebras I think I was the name of one of your book isn't it yearning running like a zebras

and they do and you will see I had a debate with top religious scholar in Turkey it was the former head of who just appears he was graduate of Medina University perhaps allows her this professor has written this much Tessier if you really drop it on someone it will kill a person from volumes of lives inserted in the in between versus Pepsi means I put words in God basically in there in certain volumes of false stuff in the Quran and he escaped in the studio from the studio

twice it was live debate come on millions of people watch it was the most rated program and you will see this guy it is on YouTube you can see a defeated Suleiman attention and the professor slamming our cash he couldn't handle and he lied in looking in the eyes of millions of people he lied he say bismillah r-rahman r-rahim has no 19 letters it has 21 letters can you imagine you are you know Arabic if you ask Arabic school children elementary kids how many letters in bismillah r-rahman Ryan can't them they will all

come up with 19 even ask Microsoft Bill Gates is this not the orthographical point though about how it's written in the Quran is that the issue here with 19 and 20 because they don't not writing they're not counting the olives when they're writing them did they add their hallucinations they said there are two invisible a leaves there no but to be fair the one in Rat Man is that is that not the second one because the first ones with ISM and that

one's silent but I thought the second one would have been with Rahman the stranger is really after me if there was a leaf mean a leaf and then noon would be separate from me yeah but but but we don't read it as Rahman I know it is written listen I'm not counting how you've the vibration coming from your mouth which has really become very difficult how you pronounce we count the letters and the words the visible one and that is the physical fact otherwise the the sound coming from your mouth pronunciation of bismillah

will be different than the others there will be million different anunciacion kind of if we take the graph of these vibrations or you say all of them are different there is no miracle to be just for people to have a brief understanding now I know you've written a huge amount on this as well and your whole website is actually named after this 19 org but what with what you're saying is that the quran has a code an underlying code which ties in this like a meta structure that ties in with the

number 19 it's very integral to the kind of divine coding of there's like an engineering going on 19 is God's signature not only in the Quran is also in the Bible in Old Testament and also in the nature and in this book I give a lot of examples but majority of people are blind to God's signs either in the book although other absolutely it is they say they walk around but they are ignorant they are blocking of God's eye because some things professor like these

things like like I'll just say about myself personally certain things I've heard about mathematics in the Quran which I found very Wow like straightaway like things like let's say the amount of times Allah has mentioned dunya in different verses he's mentioned al Qaeda in the same number of verses there's a symmetry even though they're not next to each other and I heard you've also written about the number of the term the word day has been written 365 times in the Quran I find that very Wow these kind of things I think the normal public will understand straight away the thing about the number

19 doesn't it doesn't resonate immediately with people like they won't understand why is this such a divine it is very clear enough first of all what you mentioned they also type 2 number 19 but the Quran this is a symmetrical nature of the Quran like or semantical mathematics I would say like the meaning of the words and their frequencies are related to each other and like in pairs the world dunya and AFTRA both are mentioned hundred

fifteen times and the word Malik angel and say can shape on both mentioned in the Quran their practices are 88 times the word share in singular form is mentioned in the Quran 12 times she would yell a month yeah the word Jung in singular form is mentioned 365 times interestingly the the verse where the first time the word share nation it is in chapter 2 verse I don't remember the 180 something shadow

Ramadhan yeah and then the lost word share the 12th one between them there are exactly 354 days it is the number of days in a lunar year there in turn because the month is involved there are so many details and the world and they said 332 times the word Poli say to them it is a response it was 332 times they are not always in the same place equally no repeated now and in fact I check the

word restroom that time when I learned about this I studied it I was in prison that time I said let me check the word rest you how many times mentioned I found out would wrestle all the rules derivatives of the world were seller 512 times wrestling yourself more selling your son all these were soon all the derivatives of the world Russell and his message of delivery message and then the names of the messengers prophets I checked in the Quran 27 of them but there was some question about couple of them

with the with the one exception it was exactly 512 for example the mesmo moses name is that mentioned 136 times Abraham's name I remember the 69 times Muhammad's name four times Solly nine times Adam 25 times Issa 25 times interestingly Meza who is cycle Messina Adam Issa is similar and their numbers also similar now this is a numerical structure in the Quran however 19 yeah because these

chickens this people can straightaway fathom what you're saying and they can number 19 is specifically mentioned in the Quran as a pest to distinguish those people who trust God the honest people from hypocrites and from ingrates therefore it is safe majority of people are failing this test is exactly what God wants God says this God one could fail of course it is this worldly life is for tests and when do you think when Moses came with those miracles majority of people believe they did they see it no they said it is fake when Muhammad

when Jesus came how many people really supported him he showed all the miracles a yeah majority of people did not see the same about this one it is a powerful miracle when I when I use this miracle against 18 they cannot refute it check my debate with my question a question yet they was I believe is a I've an panin and after him other people in Christianity from the I think the 19th century a Russian convert to Christianity who also kind of pioneered

this research yes on Theo Mattox one could say he because he argues a very similar thing about the Bible argues things like number eight number seven number 50 is this not a similar thing what makes this unique I'm just saying somebody close this question yeah timing I think has some very impressive observations that truth but I don't see that it is a system it is anecdotal separate observations and I do think in the Bible in the old and new Testament there is mathematical structure or

exactly based on number 19 it's not only we believe it is true because in 11th century rabbi Judah has written eight volumes on number 19 in the Old Testament and seven volumes unfortunately is lost but we have one volume of this book just any toothpaste translation of a truth beyond doubt that number 19 is also a code in Old Testament and 100% sure it is in the New Testament if you find the original Hebrews and will be able to see exactly the same because it is divine signature

now the old Hebrews I believe they they set their entire calendar on a 19-year cycle so even though they would introduce leap months yes but the whole Metis cycle yep that would be 90 minutes exactly now let me come to number 19 about that one the verse says a laetus etosha on it is 19 but before that there are two verses mistranslated very distorted by traditional translations for example traveling heavy laden be sure so loosely

he sucker women attract a massacre they're typically weather a desert it doesn't leave no spare it is not more not less now what happened in be sure that is obvious that is obvious like no han like a tablet like a screen to humanity that we have to deal okay I understand because people understood that to mean about the skin isn't it like it logo hats a little but you know the Quran look at the Quran the word Bashar never mentioned as a skin anywhere in the world - Otto Kron pull

in a man ever share on his Newcombe say I am human being like you and he doesn't say I am a skin like you correct the previous words just before this one future sporadic ballet in hell that I will be sure he said this is a human world he didn't say this is the skin world this is the word of skin no and the following verse in fact after a layer - satire the verse is more when I yell daddy crying be sure it's finished and then they translate that man also as

a reminder for humanity for humans they don't say as a reminder for skin but somehow these birds they mistranslated as a skin and what disc you know the one before it's a sleepy sucker that I will cast them into hell fire how do you translate that it's not hell it is Santa Living God doesn't want you to rush before God you will not have it merely sanika but at I shall be the main ally in a bionic God wants you says so Lisa I will put him in a difficult situation

suffer in fact sutter literally means the heat that boils the person's forehead it is really frontal lobe it is metaphor use I will punish that person through frontal lobe and when I break a man suffer do you know what a sufferer means not rush make it hell God if God wanted could says and not so slightly Gehenna so sweet and God doesn't use that word specifically use the word sucker with her connection with frontal lobe because this is any collection challenge and then says when I attract a man suffer do

you know what that sucker me there to be weather hazard it is not that the air becomes fun it is not leave behind it's not more it is not less it is precise now we're happy we'll be sure it is universal it is obvious for everyone not for Arabs alone the way and why it is plural of flower but therefore it is description of mathematics in the quran and that the quran says what turbine mark boom it is numerical book they even mistrusted his verse they want to hide satan wants to hide that iran is a numerical book

stubborn were foolish shadows Caribou the numerical book those who are close to God they wouldn't say but those who are not witness they will not they will be fisted gene they will be confounded by their ignorance but their dogmas they will not see it and those who witness the traveler whom they were led they go up they they are enlightened by it they paradigm change they become rational model things they become really peacemakers they become honest people but those who are not witness and establishment who they are in their own

prisons in prisons of ignorance and corruption now let's come to the 19 yeah I was going to say that you see could it be as well as a as an objection could it be that there is this number 19 for example these kind of correlations but that's because human beings have this kind within the subconscious this kind of this this number like as an example if we take a look at poetry let's take a look at poetry now even in English is historically the pentameter now before

our in Arabic the before before they were discovered people just knew to kind of say something on a certain pattern and it sounded right without even knowing the mathematics behind it yet it's not necessarily there must have been some reasons in our subconscious why we like certain words to be 5 or like certain words to be in groups of 10 or in groups of six there must be something there but does that make it divine listen of course initially your reaction is you don't know it and you all do when

you are justified to have these suspicions about it absolutely it is a very good way to start but if you stop here because you made up a possible explanation but without studying and that will be dogmatism there will be a bigotry I challenge you I say I challenge everyone all the mathematicians I have debated with top mathematicians in the world with Carl Sagan when in fact recently a person mathematician he is a legend he died from commit 19 I debated with him for

hours in fact one of our last debates I put it on YouTube John Cohen and I debated with top mathematicians and but no one is able really to deal with this because it is a powerful proof that the Quran is extraordinary because the pattern the human the human language or Arabic is arbitrary is not mathematical it's not and the frequency of letters and words will not be multiple of 19 just by because you write a poetic stuff

never above you but you will see some patterns very clear obvious and can be made of course bismillah ar-rahman rahim have 19 letters you can come up with many statements with 19 letters but when you go too deep and deal you will find is incredible intricate and detailed a very sophisticated mathematical structure it comes from simple that every person can see it can understand it and at one level some mediocre people some some some and then there will come a point everyone

will give up to say this is consciousness or this can be made by human being and therefore this is proven to be Word of God and also to prophecy I am NOT going to give any examples right now be only one example we care about the letters of milah because it is so huge but I want to do one day start at the beginning but I want to tell you it is also a prophecy imagine this 19 is mentioned in which after my brother which chapter is 19 is mentioned 19 is measuring only one

chapter there are 285 numbers mentioned in the Quran as a repetition as a unique number there are thirty but through repetition 285 but nineteen is mentioned only once in one chapter we chapter I can bring it up on the phone chapter 74 my brother now chapter 74 is called mud bath sure

yeah the hidden one better because it starts yeah you had Macbeth food confessor oh the hidden one come out and world the hidden one and nineteen was hidden in that chapter for how long for exactly 19 times seventy for lunar years after his revelation let me repeat again 19 is mentioned in chapter 74 okay 19 in chapter 74 and the meaning the application of 19 remained

hidden for 19 times 784 lunar years and it was in melody in 1974 it was unveiled 1974 mlady Malati 19 x 74 lunar years later by someone whose name is mentioned in the quran 19 times Russia Russia and then this chapter which is known L mood best year the hidden one the secret the hiding start with one statement yeah you have

Macbeth there who fancy these two verses make one sentence yeah you have with that here or the Hilton one Poonam come rise rise and fell 0 and 1 and this is 19 letters if you look at the numerical value of each letter abject value it adds up to exactly what number give me a number my god fright I don't know I object how was what the Kelly man think about if you add is it

74 1974 yes and wasn't Rashad Khalifa born on the 19th of November or something yeah but in 1973 he published a book in fact the it is no Ben I think October or November the signature says 1973 the introduction in that book it is about the letters with guru fumaça toddies so-called mysterious letters of the quran in that book he doesn't have

any clue about number 19 yet he discover exactly the following few months later and then first time in raju troubles he unveiled to the world i have that his declaration in Raja travels in Arabic in fact I posted somewhere in YouTube I have the cassettes of that one it is 1917 can I ask about Khalifa because you were very close to him dear friend and a mentor to you and obviously he's inspired useful in many ways as well as many of the people is it true that he

claimed to be then a messenger from God is this true people make this claim he claimed to be Messenger of God in fact he before he claiming to be Messenger of God I was in Turkey that time I haven't paid him I studied the Quran I look at his number 19 it is not a small thing it was incredible discovery it is divine secret that God led to this time for our generation the generation of computer and information and therefore I said this is because the Quran says God the secrets unveiled two messengers in the chapter 72

it's called jinn only the secrecy unveiled secrets through messengers while kulla shay'in added our God every counted everything numbers anyway I said this cannot be poisonous and God must have chosen this person and I checked I said let me look at his name what is it I found that the all the derivatives of Prashad is mentioned exactly nineteen times and the form rashad twice and my god it is exactly incredibly prophetic in chapter 40 if you read these ones it is beautifully incredibly prophetic

it is parallel happens exactly this time it was happened during Joseph most of Moses time I'm sorry in Egypt during Moses time it relates to Joseph and then people says Joseph was the last messenger they rejected Moses and God rejects them they said in the past you in fact when Joseph came as a messenger he rejected him but after him he made him as a lost messenger now your you are rejecting Moses in the name of Joseph

whom with the same mentality you rejected him while he was a messenger and therefore the world Rashad is mentioned sandwich in this verse about the last messenger anyway I mean he claimed by when I was in Turkey I look at this I said you must be a Messenger of God and then several months later when he declared his messengership I had no problem with that and after meeting him I I was convinced to be clear when he's saying messenger is he saying like I'm somebody who's like messenger I've received divine revelation or is he just saying I'm like a scholar a much they hate no

commissioned by God a messenger chosen by God to deliver to unveil his miracle and also to expose the Sunni and Shiite distortion against the Quran and he was he did that but the Quran doesn't make Muhammad as the most messenger the Quran clearly says McKenna Muhammad and ABI having Mary Jericho when I can go to Allah Mohammed is a Messenger of God and the last prophet it doesn't say most profit and lost messenger the Prophet is the one a

messenger who brings the book also but every every prophet is messenger but every messenger may not be so just for the view is that you can say huh termina being and Nabi is the one who brings scripture and you're saying a rasool is the one who just he can just revive a message Marshall yeah although I think commonly people do it the other way around isn't it yeah they say the Abhi's a book right okay and you know Rashad Khalifa when he analyzed the whole text he saw the number 19 standing up

everywhere except in those two verses and at the end of surah tauba that's why he felt maybe they were kind of interpolations into the massage yes I would like to discuss another point okay sure hey he himself was was unfortunately was assassinated is that correct yeah he was assassinated and it is also a major issue because in 1989 from 38 countries Muslim scholars gathered in Medina under the leadership of EDL boss the Saudi

Sullivan bombers live in bars and they were gathering for the fair of salman rushdie because Iran declared salman rushdie the iran put about 1 million dollars on Selma rest his head it was major issue that time it was number one names in 1989 therefore Saudi Arabia did not want to stay behind because Iran getting the leadership of the so-called Muslim world including Sunnis and Saudi was competing with you rather for they wanted to have a say on the issue they gathered from 38 countries in Medina and

they declared that fatwa Rashad and rich the both of them are multiple state and then after that less than a year he was killed by the elf okra a group was affiliated to al-qaeda the mastermind of 9/11 three of them were in Tucson that time one of them was clearly involved and the others most likely to but from his interview it was he was basically strangely i i've read that the person who did this was captured 19 years after

captured 19 years after exactly it was not he was not the mastermind but he was the one who used for date as a killer it is a hitman and he was captured exactly 19 years later but there are so many 19 yeah and he was sentenced on the 19th of I think yeah but these are small things let me tell you about Massachusetts G Tucson Tucson the city zip code is 57 it's 3 times 19 and the Masjid where it belongs the area code is 1957 it is the City of

Tucson 19 at the area code of Massachusetts and later we look at the parcel number or to Masjid person in the city the land but it was 114 and years later about few years ago there was an article at Tucson weekly it was random that I came across that it was about historical buildings in Tucson and they included this one too these were master Tucson was Rashad Masjid and then I saw it very interesting says it was built in year 1919 and maybe it's incredible these are few these are very trivial no one knows

but so many sons these are just on the side in the footnote but the major signs they covet nineteen my dear brother no no no it is not a coincidence I'm telling you do we see many more signs on 19 in fact the last 20 years three biggest event in the world it was clearly truly related to number 19 but many did not even notice it one was y2k problem it was the ignorance of the number 19 the the computer programmers they ignore the number 19

and it cost almost a trillion dollars eight hundred billion dollars and the whole fear the whole year from 398 from 1999 passing to 2000 the whole world was terrified if you look at the time magazines covered the end of the world y2k problem and the reason was because the number 19 was ignored there is interesting poetic justice and the mastermind of the murderers of Raja Khalifa years later they attacked the United States and 19 of them were because the United States government was

accomplished with so dorothea that is my contention I have 99 percent almost evidence which is 19 more than 80 percent sure well I am more than 90 percent because I have so many everything I cannot see a hundred percent but there are so many reasons to believe that there was a United States basically turn a blind eye to them carrying out these more and then ultimately it cut with them the guys who murdered Russia Khalifa they attacked the United States in 9/11 and they end up become nineteen hijackers not 20 they were they started 20 do you

know that nineteen hijackers it is actually now that you say yes of course I mean I had forgotten for a moment but yes that is it 19 was the number right cool let's let's take some question I know a lot of people have been trying to fire some questions let's take some questions for the chef my first question straight away [ __ ] when you first I don't like the word sorry it was probably a deep deep deep when you first fell in love was she 19 years

old this is the question 19 times 103 and at 19 years age I went to college my college here and without knowing the number 19 I know it first time in admin from a medida I spent about two weeks with a medida in 1980 in a international youth conference by a whammy waa and why it is

called world assembly of Muslim youth and the Turkish Ministry of Youth and when I before hearing number 19 in the Quran two years before I established my own group among the biggest youth organization and about 50 60 high school students I call them ft 19 party 19 19 I had no clue about the importance of 19 even I didn't know about the verse in the Quran I kind of I read the Quran but so many numbers in the front I had no clue even that time that best man I had

19 letters but among all the name I said let me find let me give a name a number and then I defect ft 19 they were writing on the walls graffiti they were giving away pamphlets and they were basically it was a training I was preparing them for college to - we were controlling colleges that has always had a deep connect with you sharing train Oh for some questions I know people are posting some questions but something that has been asked already and I will we did touch up briefly before a

reinterpretation of the Quran a modernist a reformist into a translation of the Quran verses like the hating verse you've said that this has been an error in translation historically that father Reba Luna was never to hit them how have you interpreted this verse Dora bear is like strike in English is a multi meaning word it has many words like God Abba Macedon it's not beating

an example it is to give an example palliative may be home originally Davina let them cover their chest with their cover with their clothes and Bella Bella as any made them get not here Dorabella has any and Christ and all to travel as well travel the prodigal Phil Phil are the drivers loud and durable therefore sometimes even without fear without in

it means bearable and Madrid forward the reallocate had mashallah and then when I was trusted in the Quran in 1989 I had problem with these frustrating as a beat because my first reflex as a Sunni was to underneath when when come to the woman it should be beaten correct nothing other meaning you know we don't even trust it like you know about the hate for sacrifice in a third

and apply a peace it doesn't say beat it with the with the hater and even in for haver we don't use the word beat the cow the sacred cow for the ribbon will be Barbie huh - it doesn't say beat it and hit it with that it is basically to match it it is apply to it touch it something like that but somehow when comes to women we picked the worst meaning and I had problem but I couldn't translate it otherwise around I put it I had an orange paper on it I was writing the

verses which I needed further research and then after that about a 2 years later I went to Turkey I hadn't published my translation yet but I had finished it I will I was incubating on some verses and then I was in Ankara in 1992 I believe I went to I went to a cinema a theatre it was about there was what was the name of it oh my gosh there was a movie about some

women and friends they go to Africa they have incredible adventure in Africa and the women this European woman become the concubine or a wife of a polygamist tried man anyway in one scene these older wives the previous wives they are arguing with her and one of those wives tell her it will get out inherently yeah it's English like in English like bTW yes exactly

hard would be exactly it was English movie but in that motion this movie in my article in I think here and what there are few Arabic words this is one of them when I learned it my gosh really in North Africa they say beat it drop get out she was telling woman to get out from the room but carrying her edram and then I later learned yes they say it worked and then that's it and federal money help them get out of the home because you give them chances if they

are keeping flirting in fact this verse there are four key words mistranslated communal and Mossad they make it become a Lamesa Tom means the provider not necessarily the dictator but they tend to trust a is the dictator over the woman and then my and I've said that that verse about the provision about providing Obama was more a descriptive as opposed to prescriptive it was just this is how society exactly exactly eautiful beautiful and proud of you it is exactly describing yeah and the

worldly shoes is also mistranslated if you feel rebellion from woman but the same Nicias is mentioned several words down in the same chapter for men to be in issues again his woman but they don't translate it as man rebellion women and they say something else like disloyalty well here is disloyalty to and a woman obedient woman they say it or bedding to man but throughout the Quran that word karna taught it is always obedient to

God not to man to another human being but when comes to that there are four words over there by male dominant clergymen is mistranslated in order to create Authority and oppression against women and you in any a book in the introduction you've got a whole section on that by the way for people and that is also the sections discussing some of the errors in translation is on your website I've seen it there it is yeah part of your in a table and compare I pick I pick an example in detail in my footnotes I

debate I translate break reject and Orthodox translations I provide a reason explanation and argument for it but these are I picked about 15 major ones as an example and to teach people that you don't need to know Arabic to see the problem in the traditional translations and I compare well I'll bring some just to show people I'll just bring it up on the screen now just to show them right that was just so they can see this is

from the website nineteen org i they can see some of the table right now in an example discussion going on of regarding the hitting verse surah 4 verse 34 so okay just I'll bring it back to where we were right yet that I just showed them on the screen deep that's just so they get an idea thank you but okay yep so these are some of the popular mistranslations like the hitting verse that the warmer verse things like this go to the next one you can you see the

next one on the same page or it goes to the next page something here it goes on about about now still about the heating no then it's the next page because the next one is should the thieves hand be cut off okay yep and you've translated that as the means isn't it saying that the cut cutting of the means is that correct as opposed to and I'll just show I'll show that to the

the audience as well so they can see the there is so you've got the translation the of Abdullah Yusuf Ali of Pickthall saying about cutting the hand shark here as well saying cut off the hand it's that I'm a circuit but no no no this is sorry this is an English and you've got yours saying to kurtal cut off the hands stroke means as a punishment there are multiple ideas you can tell and deliberately God made it that way so that people will get and but according

to other verses you cannot cut off their hands I discuss it there it could be one of the understanding but it must be more cut or cut he means and you've mentioned regarding levying taxes you've stated in your translation reparation absolutely it is war related it has nothing to do with religion after aggressive wars against you they hurt they basically they aggress against you they cause damage and thereafter the world there they will be levied some collaboration

of you also translated the is it monitored or the characteristics of of Muslim women but if those who say as opposed to fasting you've you've made it as active in society of course are you had those who say I have it is nothing to do sorry mouth it doesn't say sorry much they didn't like women travelling activists women say a heart and they miss translated as assignment it's not so much to say as this trouble and also AB Karen that is means third early woman

ahead them is the the leaders but somehow you like Abu Baker was the leader are you gonna tell us a tip that on polygamy were allowed to marry nineteen is this what you're gonna say polygamy is if you look at the beginning of chapter four polygamy is in the context in fact if the sandwiched between verses about the orphans with fatherly killed yeah it is about the mothers who are widows who

have orphans in order to really protect the orphans and their mothers and that was the option for them and it was not just for sexual thing that was an exigent circumstance if it is for sexual is that are you saying that it's not allowed if it's just for saying no you cannot marry for if they are widows with the orphans yes you can marry okay that's fine it is a - who are we to say they should be remaining without nerves usually if there are less man and

you do them forever not having a support of men psychologically or in socially or economically that would if someone can afford it and it is really not easy to have the woman especially with children or things and it was a exigent circumstances it's not marrying like virgins and I mean I think you're gonna lose so much of your male following now this is we're gonna be like what and

you've taken this away they see the question so the next question is what is your view on the definition of Hartman nabiyeen being the best and not the last prophet and Nabi being synonymous with rasool phil kitab when it mentions ismail in on kana asada called Wahiawa kana Rasul and Nabi yeah yes that's a question by soul of Lisa yeah I I thought I'm a means to and the seal

I understand as the lost and because the Quran is also be on Elena's and the Quran talks about Muhammad's time Muhammad's own man to be related to the end of the world and therefore it must until the end of the world and there I am very high right now not a problem no no it is a subject I would love to talk but not now because sure I would like to discuss about the end of the world because the Quran gives the time

of end of the world - it is unlike it is believed it is absolutely the Quran provides a time for the end of the world - sure it was a question here by an ayah who had said number 19 reoccurs in my life before something bad happens to me I mean [ __ ] oh brother or how do you feel about questions or thoughts like this about number 19 associated with maybe superstition then of course people may have superstition but what is in the Quran people I think they can hallucinate 19th it doesn't mean there

is 19 - and I see some people manipulating numbers putting together next to each other coming up with 19 no and what I will out of 1 out of 19 numbers will be multiple of 19 by random that you need to be take into consideration that one and also if you are manipulating numbers you have a bunch of numbers you add them together this way that way and in many different ways of course you will get many and therefore I am very skeptical about many people coming up with 19 I reject them and I see it is anecdotal or it is

arbitrary or it has it is mathematical something it is mathematical property it has nothing to do with the deliberate thing therefore but the Quran is is not like a movie it's not numerology it's not speculation it is physical if one day we come together I would like to bring someone I invite people who reject number 19 who think they studied it but think they know that it is speculation we do or we make it up absolutely I am ready to discuss against them meanwhile I want to invite zakir

naik or newman what is Newman's name when 911 yeah Newman Ali Khan was I they because these people are misleading the people because they talk very well they are very slick unfortunately they promote hadees and sunnah all these lies they keep them in darkness and in ignorance and therefore I challenge them let's discuss if you would like to discuss again is someone who believes in Quran alone as a source

of Islam or system God's system come we will discuss and I will will have chance to face-to-face but would be amazing if they do take you up on that I would love to you they should they should because they talk behind us they talk they they promote the idea or have assumed that they say those who follows runnable they are misguided well I am one of those the leaders of this movement we started with Prophet Mohammed and therefore come

against me if you are honest look at the Quran all the messengers and their friends they always on the streets and is a public square they discuss they debated with people it is one of the and I just like to clarify as well for people some people had asked about my position now I am Sunni and my distinction I suppose difference is although I am critical of several parts of the hadith literature I don't reject the whole thing but I don't I'm not about calling people who choose let's say to only stick to the Quran as as

deviants or misguided at the end of the day it's what makes sense to people and this kind of clerical approach about out casting people I'm personally against that that's not I mean that's just all about powers of position and things like that so just because somebody had asked a deep a question here you know the Quran the different recitations what are your thoughts on that is it only have some awesome this rewire that we have are you feeling that all of them are equally kind of valid or do you not have much thoughts on them well on the street

I saw these awesomes version and it's called the which one is it has a solution are you talking about this house yes yes of watch yeah exactly on the street I saw this a half's version I found out that number 19 is in it an incredible mathematical structure it cannot be contained it's very precise and it has some error correction ability when I do check I found out in this version there are some errors spelling

errors a couple of them and also two verses edit and when I check with the older many schools I found out it is justified at least in two very important cases and therefore I I don't have any doubt about that and the worst version is not much different there are few differences but I see that this is exactly mathematical structure Quran is in it it cannot be constants it cannot be faked sure I mean that's I've heard some other people say that as well that they've said that they feel the

mathematical structures stand regarding this but they're not sure about the other readings somebody's asked a question here what are you do you have any thoughts on column ahmed perez who was from the indian subcontinent and from pakistan specifically and he was also rejected he's also part of the karani Brownian movement I haven't read much but as far as I know I like the person of course I may disagree with some of his position but I think that he was very close to the message of common alone mashallah that

is commendable yeah alright somebody is asking a question but I can't seem to see the Arabic very clearly says what ilkka now Martin can't see the rest of it it seems to shouldn't this be this categorically imply that slavery should not be carried out right okay I'm not sure I can't unfortunately we see the roll down but really see I love in Bernice right Eli can see the pop up when he is right and I bet to be nice Ryu

Oh Martin I am now ha was it Tammy no ha Ali yeah but uh Bernie's right oh right that they right ok the person is saying is this not indication that the Israelites had been enslaved by the Pharaoh ok that's interesting I'll look into that that's interesting yeah what exactly beautiful yeah I think Rashid Rehan 26:22 doesn't see right so chapter 26

I think sure ah you will be much better verse that is an interesting verse your writer because historically they seem to historians seem to imply that not imply they seem to state that the Israelites weren't slaves generally speaking but they were treated as second or third class citizens by the Pharaohs but they weren't actually slaves per se they had their own settlement and they were becoming out

casted so some of the Egyptians believed that maybe the famines were due to them and plague was brought by them and they were dirty people and brought germs and things like that but you're right that verse is interesting I'll look into that personally right somebody's asked what do you think Ania said what do you think of some gerron's or some Garren's quran' alone some carols he's very articulate his very studious I like that and but his inability to see

the miracle of number 19 is said he misses all all the 29 initials he makes up meaning for them arbitrarily absolutely arbitrarily through his head he brings that rabbits out as noses what's waiting for what phone number did you say for a number for the 40 Alif LAAM Meem kappa yeah inside okay he makes up meaning arbitrarily in his own is basically there is no evidence what is it he makes out but he knows the number 19 therefore ignorance of number

19 in the Quran says when I yield a decline be sure you may show me coming at a Fatima we had after you may share a mean come I get up at them and whatever this number 19 is to distinguish those who go forward or to stay back backward therefore says the hypocrites and chapters in grades will not witness a if we say what has got me by this number therefore this very number is a test fitna it is now right now a test if you are not witnessing it there is something wrong with you my brothers my sister absolutely but I want you to hold your

judgment don't rushing to judgment study these this is God like in the past certain miracles shown to people like Sunnis camel don't sacrifice it this is very science and some people says old how can camel be miracles let me sacrifice it is a class and this one is number is a real intellectual test your own bigotry and whatever in your heart if you have that time you will not be able to see it therefore I want you to rush into the judgement whether it is true or not of course you are not in the position that I am now because I witness it I counted it and I know it is incredible

I cannot explain because in the head and coober this number 19 is one of the biggest signs therefore his inability to see it and I think is a major problem on his side I wish that he didn't have that bigotry but it is his own test what can I say okay right are there are any final questions for professor here let's see if people are posting a lot of comments somebody did and some questions I don't know whether they're really meaningful but somebody had said just a professor

feel that owning a slave is [ __ ] of course so it's [ __ ] well you become the you claim to be the rug of that person you claim that he is my AB that simple if you make someone your add you you become a pharaoh cannot be clearer than that in Arabic it's called Abdur Rab slave ease up and you become rad you claim to become rad besides God era bobbin Allah it is rhetoric of rejection of being any red besides God you say no but I will say another right beside you I'm like Pharoah in Arabic Medina

hello sure somebody's asked here that what is you what are your thoughts on the word kotha in the quran in not a natural culture is there some special understanding no I'm not sure it is made of cow sorry it comes from kiss fear means plurality I gave you plenty it is for you - for me - it is general and they made it a part of my and stuff it is all made up as nothing to do with that that makes Salaam opinion on Muhammad Shearer who he is also for an alone and his ID on al-khattab being the only insane book

given to all prophets do you feel that so there's a two-part question I don't know if you're familiar with Mohammed share and the other part is that the view that al khattab is the same prescription given to all prophets do you feel nuts al-kitab is the same book yes given to all prophets is God's book it is in fact in singular form is used it is means divine laws but a start as far as the details in that one can change according to one oh man one time to another time but God sends book or

law to each groups and the Quran is the boss Testament Old Testament New Testament and stuff but all they have the same system it is called Islam is peace making the goal of Islam is a secular goal and Iman is different every movement every person who trusts God alone they are also peacemaker they are Muslims but every Muslim means peacemaker may not be necessarily be directional monotheism or mean they could be mushrik therefore that could be Christian Muslim Christian peacemaker

Jewish peacemaker in Medina they were all peacemaker it was a state of israei it's the ones who are making sin who are creating that verb in Arabic Islam is to say down yet to actually actualize film Salaam right okay a question here that just does the professor do you reject all books of hadith or there's some that you will accept like somebody has mentioned the mouth of Imam Ali I take it that you reject all listening I reject all hadees including my own hadees to be a source of system god only that it is God's machine and I would be

in a turmoil and in that only the Quran God doesn't listen God doesn't have shortage of words all the oceans seven oceans become an ink and all the forest all the trees become God words will not therefore God has no shortage of words God is not forgetful the quran' is mufasal' is enough for us the details we don't need it again you say well what about the players the karana this is another question right here that somebody said how do you determine the five prayers I knew that question would

come that's a common question to people who reject happy how do you respond to that because you must get that a lot yes I have a short answer a little bit longer s and which one should I give whichever one you comfortable with the shorter answer reverse and later if you needed so if if in order to pray according to your detailed description according to Hadees book according to the tray according to those books if I need to associate partners to God if I need to oppress women

if I need to probably get many fit blessings of God that God is not private if I need to stone people to death if I need to put a woman in a black sack if I need to become ignorant person interesting game yes I don't want to pray that trail then with that trail to tell that trail that trail leads me to become evil but the prayer in fact an Hanif aksha young honey - I will moon tell the trainer must be paid very smarter and astray a person more

righteous better treating people nicely respecting woman but I see in order to meet to pray according to this detail which is many many details contradictory details if I need to follow these books your prayer is for you I don't train but according to the Quran first of all you start with bargain say I already have the description of trail which is that you are lying you don't have really description you have many lies fabricated about trail and they are contradictory and you say find this one in the Quran if you cannot find

this fabricated hadith about prayer in the Quran then the Quran is not detailed enough well they were a circular argument first what is the prayer you say well the frame must have this many units who said that where do you get it you get it from your fabricated Hadees and you save my I cannot find my fabricated Hadees in the Quran therefore Quran is not detailed that is a false argument therefore according to the Quran the guiness of the fray of no it's not an issue like the color of hafer in the beginning of chapter 2 God doesn't for

just for fun give you example of Jewish rabbis creating frivolous details what did God tell them told that God told them to sacrifice a heifer there was a purpose because hateful was a symbol of their oppressors the Masters the pharaohs and they still had they in their mind they still heaven that is very interesting it was not a stupid ritual it was not because they needed blood and stuff because oh seriously the pharaohs they had Hafer and when they

were slave they were also under the influence of the culture and religion they adopted the religion of their masters like black people so broadly rights their slaves they became Christians they adopt the religion of their master the same way and when they were and they were freed by Moses but in their mind they still has some respect to their paper yeah and therefore the semi right was able to you see because I've also said that was a in the Quran was Osiris I don't know if that resonates with you but where it said about the Jewish people that they said was they don't even Allah that this

was in the subconscious it was who say it Bellavia I don't know about that I haven't thought about that but this is this is the hater and God wants them to really physically cut it by this way you know in psychology there is this kind of treatment if you have certain obsession or fear phobia you go do something physically in order to mentally also cut yourself this was to really do not have any respect for these things but rabbis Rabbi Chaim Chi and entirely through frivolous question what

is the color and whether it is young or old whether it is in the barn or in the forum this kind of stupid question and the Quran says Olmo and each time the details is giving they what more detail this is the mentality of clergymen rabbi they create famous questions through through this question they create volumes of books and so close what happens people normal people will not be able to know it's such a gem though the fact that you see what Allah was instructing them to kind of to completely jettison this subconscious

baggage of exact iris and the pharaohs with this - and with this kind of car this young cow and rather what they come up with is you know Milo knew her what's his color should it be this should it be that distracted from the main point basically they missed the entire point and the same with the player this salat so that means my brother's a lot in fact agrandi defines what o salafi were masataka were masala when I can caliber weapon de Musset economist Allah did not

approve it and did not sell let's keep it sander when I can kill the bear it is the entry name of Siddhartha and therefore were Wed Heredia to turn away turn away their food then salad should be the Antoni the of turning away me Tony face showing empathy and interest being in solidarity and we see it in for example in the LA woman Aikido you say Luna and maybe yeah you live in a man of Sal Johnny Roselli metaschema God and His angels

controllers engines is another misunderstood God and his controllers are supporting the messenger means in solidarity with messenger o people you also support the messenger be in solidarity with messenger in another verse is maybe I'm sorry in another words who when living you Sully an income America - here is a crewman Mina's would maybe even me God and His angels are supporting you in

order to take you from darkness to light and light you see that Miss Sally Allah is also God is doing - moving not only Mohammed only moving also limits in another verse tell Muhammad suddenly who's mean and well in sadaqa sadaqa turn to the key-in be her was Ali Ali him in the Salah take a second economic health tells Muhammad say take some zakat purification from their earning distribute to the middle and by this and do select them support them being

solidarity with them because your support is second and make them calm make them better correct therefore here we see solidarity in three ways between God and believers between God and messenger and between messenger and other believers and believers - messenger and therefore we need to be in solidarity it has 2 eights 1 solidarity with God it is in the domain of faith Iman and morning must be in connection with God in solidarity with God as support from

God and give promise to God that he or she will support God's Way and because of God means God's attributes so it doesn't mean necessarily the ritual pre no no and the other one in the other one is being solidarity with people salat with people and that is salatul juma its secular you go to select solidarity with people who once in a while in the neighborhood or in the city you are invited to come as people being somewhere it is psychologically socially politically financially being solidarity

a salat with God I do think it is prayer Zickuhr law to commemorate God and ask help from God and meanwhile to Institute possible it could be physical but it is an optimist or not valid Vickery yeah it is not the essence the essence is thicker because the only time said God said do not you say that when you don't know what you are saying means mental connection with God it is for moving as for Muslim all the Muslims need to do salat all the Muslims means peacemakers

in a city or in a town it is their civic duty when they are invited to Salah tree Jumeirah to communal mass solidarity they need to go there to be support this is what somebody has mentioned the worst lay silver run to a loop with your comfortable machete will marketability never ever money ha yeah okay yeah I guess that's in in in line with you know what's being said here okay so right Wow so this just seeing people are just yep

they're just saying the same thing right I'm against the physical exercise aspect of Salah somebody is mentioned okay that's I'm not against that yeah I don't think it is there sighs okay but if someone is wildin that is trans to Jude means mentally to obey God but physically we do you say hi to someone we smile your face oh yeah exhale your hand it is with with our body to also ever be there is nothing wrong with that what you're saying is the physical side is an expression of what is really exactly what is at the heart of it which is the

connection with God not you're not against the physical Salah you know this me some of the physical son says look man for example while you are driving the camel or the car or your aeroplane you can be sitting and still doing solid connection with God so there it with God absolutely you may not have water to do the ablution before of course test you can do it by just imagining that you are to find yourself and you can do it short even I stay in the war time but the only time you're not supposed to do these are

not necessary component of salat the Quran clearly says the only necessary component of salat is consciously intellectually connecting to God if you are drunk says do not go close to salat because you cannot do the very the only condition is to remember God commemoration of God as a believer being so dirty it is really you can accept it self reflection about your position as a human being we are in this work for a short time we are going back to our Lord therefore putting everything in position

we can get very angry we can very greedy we can very kind of depressed what they move also sometimes called mindfulness having that will go down yeah exactly go no one then professor now give us a length now give us the lengthy response it's been absolutely an absolute pleasure you are if people want to reach out to you they want to connect with you what is the best way that people where people

can find you professor you've got your website which we've already I did show that previously it's $19 with this a lot about your amazing works on the but what is another way for people to connect with you let's do zoom in fact I want to do that is way I don't want to give away my phone number two no no don't leave your phone number three I have my email address but I I suggest you let's have conferences I would love to have a conference panel that we join we do that and we come together with our

Sunni and Shia brothers to shore a things I listen I I have no animosity to Sunnis or Shiites because of their religion absolutely and just just to say I can you know I've spoken on a few occasions with you already prior to this and some lengthy discussions very loving amazing there's none of this you know old because let's say you don't follow exactly what the other person follows some hostility it's nothing like that we discuss the issues I discussed - yeah I don't even care about my father about myself - I rejected my some of my

previous things but when it comes to discussion I am very debate I am i I don't have mercy because it is matter to find the truth but in terms of person absolutely even if my biggest opponent the most opponent over there if he is unjustly treated I will be defend that person's right and because I want to live in peace with everyone but while we are in peace we can discuss with passion whatever want no problem as long as we don't threaten each other we don't kill each other we don't we don't unjustly falsely accuse each other absolutely

therefore we want to live in peace with everyone and I believe that all children of Adam we are all Homo sapiens we are brothers we can learn from our cousins the bonobo apes who make love okay let's do that one and also I invite you to listen to my speech at British Parliament it is a very important speech at an end on YouTube isn't it one and a half hour there is also my speech at British chair at the European Parliament it is also a very good one these are political and ethical

issues and also I have about a good interview with Ruth ow Ruth ow a Kurdish TV in Washington and Isis Isis is Sydney basically they a fight singer Eddie pig said Isis if you write in YouTube you will find you've got it professors a lot of videos and and a lot of writings completely refuting the the belief structure and everything of Isis or extremist ideologies so you're on your own zoom and to look out for your videos on YouTube do you argue on any other

social media accounts like Facebook and things like this I have Facebook but I'm not as active I used to be I was on Twitter I had a very great impact 150,000 and but the reach was much more than hundred fifty thousand followers but they banned it they suspended me because of type aired on the Turkish government okay in cahoots with the Twitter they bent and they suspended me I'm considering to file a lawsuit against Twitter for this one and I have little chance in one way

because American Constitution unfortunately doesn't protect against the corporation regarding freedom of expression it protects against government I can sue the government if government censored me but somehow according to the First Amendment law I cannot a claim right against a corporation yeah biggest efficiency in essence it's a company and a company has the right to you know management reserve because the public square in the past was governed by government but public square switched

with the social media and internet switched from 3d real public square to virtual public square on social media right now it is more applies public square by these two companies but I think I agree with you that it's that's very it's a fascinating discussion that these public spaces which in essence are commercial properties but because it's a company Twitter Facebook whatever but because they've become an entity of public space should they still I mean shouldn't they be a decision the

responsibles actually your sensor people have hazard me because they control the expression of ideas basically the day the public square therefore for the society it is a danger if just few corporations they censor they can block anyone they want that is absolutely wrong and we should have more against that we should regulate them they should follow due process they cannot just randomly recklessly stop so they didn't even provide me with reason why wish tweet they found against their rules and

besides the contract I will I will have a lawsuit differently I will not use the First Amendment right because I will use but I have I think a beautiful argument and I will bring it in the American Code against Twitter I have a wonderful argument I think I am going to win in fact I will win some money too because I will damage well let's celebrate once you do before we go just I know this has been a very extended session and I know you must be very tired as well

so just shortly your your piece on because this just occurred to me I want to ask before your piece on Berkeley and des cartes the two angles of a triangle what was the the the gist of of your your paper there well there are several the idea of who we are whether we are matter among body or mind or body plus mind if body plus mind is called dwellest dualism which is is associated

with that Kardashian it was the one most focused on the subject Berkeley believed that everything the essence is the spirit the soul the idea the idea ideal is because what happens all in our mind and the rest of it and some materialists believe that no the spirit the soul doesn't exist as independent entity it is the function of the brain brain is material things basically one is matter is the essence the other no the spirit the soul is the essence and of course

the third way is both of them or essence both need in order for a human being to exist and of course the problem is if this is a different essence and soul is metaphysical is not physical how they communicate with each other so is not material it is not governed by the laws of the universe that we are in and matter because I I see none of my soul with consciousness personally but it is more than that it is very interesting

subject and in fact the idea is business says the matter that everything is mattered says human being is a mp3 player everything is confined with the body and the one says no human being is I yeah since the human is broadcasting his radio broadcast the one says both the human is a radio that a broadcast soul committee yeah a broadcast independent exists and this the matter independence is basically it is like a radio Devon

yeah now you know I wish what do you think your I've actually I've actually said that I believe in non-local consciousness and that is the raw and we are in we kind of the brain is it's like the radio transmitter that picks up the signal or it is like the the phone that is picking up the Wi-Fi that's what I've kind of said previously I disagree with that I disagree that it is something like that because it doesn't really have any meaning when you say something an

essence differently what what I think that it is information plus matter the order of matter is both independent existence from matter both dependent at the same time like they let's say human take humans apart to its ingredients and then my ingredients in your ignorance it will be some several pounds of carbon several pounds of chaos a kilogram I am more than kilogram there for several

kilogram of carbon and oxygen and hydrogen and nitrogen and other elements correct you know this basically even put it on a table these terms of or kilograms of elements they will not make a human being modelsim bring them together create some molecules and somehow they start behaving differently these atoms yeah and these molecules come together make a chain of molecules like genetic code and that they will start and then create organized like that or like the principle in custodian psychology that the sum is greater than the whole the whole is greater than the sum of its

parts this weird information enters there is certain information is the order of atoms and then make molecules and the way the proportion and the order of molecules and then the proportion and order of package of molecules and create organs and humans therefore human is ingredients which is patterns plus the order which is information and that information is it is different separate like a computer is material think computer that is a skilling it silicon

in it and some plastic and stuff this is the hardware of the computer like human body and human computer's brain is the logic board and the circuits inside but the software or the system program is the knowledge that from a human being is uploaded is blown into the computer like next Aurora entry and this can be separate from the computer for example this computer body dies the information inside the computer both the programs and they're playing a ship programs and

the later advantage is created live on like they do in the cloud loaded loaded in the cloud the only cheetah they are always backed up another and then one day if this body dies it is there waiting there in deposit in God's Oman Qatar and then God will create another body with the wisdom new fillets and new foods origin when the personality consciousness is matched with their body that time and other creation in another universe therefore our person is really is the

information that makes our genetic makeup and plus the applications and the data and the things we gathered habits ideas convictions and sins these are the things that make our personal nets and ordinates is every time is back up in gods boom Wilke top and then one day will come this body will die but we are there and we are dead because we are not conscious in order to conscious in heaven it needs to be actively applied to an order by body

wow that is amazing people and professor has been a professor for many years in philosophy so do check out some of these discourses you know where to find him the website 19 org if you haven't already to liked my pages then shame on you that's all I can say I want to thank you professor theme for taking out the time today it's because I introduce my monk here against mic eraser well here

is the monkey here thank you very much so people should run for for hacking it out it's been a lengthy session but of one blast been incredibly well worth it and once again ladies and gentlemen Damas Y Caballeros we have the man the myth the legend professor a deep here so with that over now for Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatu