What magic means: fantasy magic versus illusion, and the Arabic sihr

bismillah and we will have an extended inshallah Q&A so I know some of you may have questions picking up from what share has contributed just to clarify first of all on the definition of magic you see magic when we say the word magic it can mean many things including in the English language as in many other languages it's not so an aspect of it could be like a like a like charm that

is discussed as magic something amazing is seen as magic something or striking like poetry is not magical I mean this kind of you could see something like a beautiful scenery and say that's magical we're not discussing anything to do with that just to clarify this is not in that sense magic is not a problem when when you when people say this is magical or it's they had might Wow that that is not an issue at all even deception and trickery and

illusions are not the issue the issue we're speaking of is what is referred to sometimes as fantasy magic okay fantasy magic is the problem so can somebody turn a toad into a prince this is what you read in fairy tales this is Magic which we all consider to be absurd up until the point somebody stamps religion on it and then all of a sudden it becomes okay actually makes some sense all of a sudden which is I mean this is what seems to happen so there are so

that's just to give you that understanding that is what we are dressing with in Islam all the ulama as even are sure and many of these are the great Memphis arena of highlighted for Athena Rousey and other people all the scholars of Islam have accepted that the general usage in the an of magic is referring to the non-fantasy so it's referring to illusions and things like that and that people have no problem with and I'll just expand on that just in a moment this fantasy magic some ulema did accept given their day in

age and they believed certain things and this some hadith of certain Sahaba that they put forward saying oh well aji you know that so-and-so when the Jews know such a word that I I know certain things some of the Sahaba said and I think I was right or the Elohim transmitted as well that if I was to tell you that they would turn me into a donkey and stuff like this so these this kind of thing that people took literally and some scholars believed you can actually have chemical property change you can change things I can change this class into a chair I can do things like that and people actually believe this and

shockingly some people still continue to believe this till today under the banner of Islam so with that thought in mind let's just stop and understand what does the term say how to actually mean in Arabic because when the Quran came down what did it actually mean the Arabs used the word Seher generally now the Arabs actually didn't have a culture of magic so you find many of them first sit in will touch upon this that the Arabs in in the time of the prophet muhammad salallahu alaihe salam and before him didn't have a culture of magic and they didn't believe generally that they were

magicians they had a concept of magic there's a difference between a culture and a concept they had a concept that a magic is like all this wizardry and all this stuff and they believed that magic existed in the ancient times the co-learning and these the Babylonians and and they also believed that the Jewish people had a strong tradition of magic like what and whether it's the same Kabbalah tradition that has come or not but they did believe this the Arabs at the time thought they had this kind of thing about the Jewish people being magicians and being really good with the magic tradition themselves they use the term seller

generally to mean something that is inexplicable like if they couldn't understand something they call itself so the Arabs would call a if if there was a land that ought to be producing ought to be fertile but it was barren like it wouldn't produce any produce but it was perceptibly okay they would call that Artemis hora a magic turnip on land because they couldn't explain it as a goat or something that wouldn't give milk although it looks like it should they would call it an sermons for Mustafar are like a goat that and just

to give you that concept okay now so the Oh Lamar they expand on magic being of different categories what could we just to provide a bit more of a backdrop here we know that in the medieval times and and as this is developed as this thing of Merit magic I've explained illusions that's and I've said that the olam I accept that that is the main understanding in the Quran but what else could have magic fallen under surely everybody wasn't just doing illusions you know when when they say oh he did a magic trick on him and he made him split up with his wife and he caused