Is it haram for a woman to go out for a walk?

look at where they so for example they comment on theith in of where he goes to visit her they comment on the Hadith of uh what's his name where the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is advising um um is is it fa to do with staying at the house of abdah first of all he says then he mentions Abdullah makum and so on that when you look at all of these in these texts another text they speak of the the Casual mixing when you look at can I ask you something yeah yeah yeah are we when we're talking about of the protocols of

the for example theoc yeah but the protocol is this because he says he says that we go to the of the Prophet no what I'm referring to is okay we have the we have the degrees of had right I mean I mean you have the ml then you have the I mean this isn't to do so much with you see the thing is this no but my my point is coming to my point is coming to is if we're giving fwa in the name of the Malik right for argument St then are we going to be bound to the protocols that came down to us yes or no what I mean by

protocols meaning we can't deny that we fall under the lowest degree of scholarship I mean it's not it's not something we can deny like otherwise we're going to put oursel up to the level of KH and and so on and so for so what I'm saying is the protocols of that have come down and the means of transmission and what we rely upon for you see because I mean is this first of all you know you're suggesting that this is like totally agreed upon some type of set of rules that have come down they haven't like this what I'm getting what I'm getting down to is what are the works that are to be relied upon for fatwa as opposed to because we don't you don't go back to um Hadith books for

fatwa you no you do you do as well you do as well no no what I'm saying is we'll go there to draw some extra clarification and get more on on the subject but I mean when we say when we say for example an auor okay what fatwa are you basing this on what no I'm asking you what I'm saying is when we just follow me because like no I don't mean the fatwa basing the fatwa fatwa on I mean what are you basing this on that women are not allowed to go out oh I mean it's it's all over m in section if you go to the of talking about the fact that women going out the conditions for

women going out to the m to pray oh but that's different it's not talking about generally going out it's talking about the congestion and the actual what people do on eat and they and people even discussed that today I mean the same thing yeah I mean that's the same thing that we're talking about what people were doing in a Masid or in a Mah and the benefits that was having upon things like or the harm upon other people who had gone to pray it's very different to just generally going out when we see things like when you're going to look at things like the chapters of visiting the ill when you're going to look at things like just going

out the when you're going to where are any of these fatawa from the from let's say beginning with the Imam coming right down that we're basing this on because the the is that they can go the Quran andah clearly demonstrates that the women used to go out we in the school of Medina are taught that we take from the Sunnah that is one of the things that we are known for this is one of the things that IM Malik constantly emphasized and many of the people coming after him in the M clearly emphasized we go to the

Sunnah to take our now if so you mean so you mean to say that we're supposed to go back to the primary sources no but like what I'm trying to say is if you had let's say you have all these fwa of all these speaking the contrary then you can come and suggest that you can then say look oh I've got a long list here of 25 names of beginning with Imam Malik himself going through all the top Don of the maab who have all agreed upon this matter and now why are you disagreeing with this because the maab has stated this and we don't see any difference but

what you're doing you're not bringing any fatwa you're bringing a fatwa to do with worship now not to do with casual and you're suggesting that the m is against this what do you mean by casual what you said leisurely like for leisurely activity going out that is not the same as worship because worship the have discussed this about should women be going to the Masjid or not as a different masah in the sense of the pros and the and the cons for that generally going out we see that the Quran and Sunnah doesn't prohibit we

don't outside well visiting the we right no visiting a no visiting the sick is is is a worship no but it's not it's not from it's not even it's not even from theat it's not even from theat I'm saying worship is worship yeah but it's not from the haat no but what I'm saying to you is you're saying for example Leisure Leisure yeah mean by Leisure yeah I mean how how would you you describe even if it's like let's say a woman wants to go for a walk right now you bring me fwa of the beginning with IM Malik coming down through to the m saying that a woman

wanting to go for a walk is Haram I you know you bring that to me with some names of solid of this m coming down beginning with the IM beginning with the IM coming right down here's another thing everything that we have in terms of the bust of theab like the bust of theab you're going to from the IM all the way down which means if we're talking about from the IM all the way down then we're also going to have things in the med that don't that don't show up no but the thing is we have principles for all of these things laid out like we have the guidance from the Quran and Sunnah explaining things now if you

don't have a ruling like let's say haven't spoken about this but we see this used to casually happen in the time of the Prophet Sall alaihi wasallam we see used to casually happen even after right now the question is well well okay so what what where does it say it's prohibited because you know that it's supported by the Quran and Sunnah it's actually supported by the overwhelming principle that now unless you can bring clear conclusive evidences and fatawa of like the stating this like when you saying you're referring to let's say begin with IM Malik and coming down okay I'm saying is for example so IM

here's a question can a woman go out for a walk right now you bring me fwa from beginning with the IM coming down right that have said it's Haram for her to go out and I will then look into this ma like oh right okay now we've got a problem right now we have there is nothing to say that that is Haram a woman can go out for a walk if she wants to go out for a walk she can go out for a walk there is so what I mean now is when you're saying from IM Malik are you would you you negating like okay let's say let's bring it from the IM you bring it from any of the any of the M bring it from any of the students I'm not

suggesting you bring it from any of the Rat you bring it from the Don of the M okay you bring it from people like what is it you bring it from people like you bring it from people like you name him Abdul wahab aladi whoever you want to take it to you bring it further down whether it's going to be or coming down then we're going to have to investigate what seems to be going on right now this is

just I mean from the Quran and it's like it so you're saying so okay so you're saying that um uh for example what am I what am I thinking so you're saying that the the basis of this the basis of this fwa is on the principle of meaning in other words there's no Su for no who sus for against it in other words from the not just that not just that the fact that you see we first of all we have principles like that secondly we have clear guidance demonstrated by the prophet Sall alaihi

wasallam and the salaf that this was the General Norm that this used to take place so we now have clear guidance on this matter the thing is now if you're going to oppose that if you're going to oppose it principles yeah if you're going to oppose it then okay let's well if you're going to say look listen okay I don't want to just go direct to the Hadith I want to take it from the M as in I want only clear clear fwa from the maab then okay bring these clear fwa beginning with the IM coming down bring them where they have said to and in response to this question that can a woman go for a walk because she wants to go for a walk

that know it's Haram okay can a woman go for walk and if any of these beginning with IM Malik or the top Don okay but remember again you keep saying beginning with imik not everything is is so sometimes but then okay then no no wait wait no but wait wait wait wait sometimes you have the in the in the we mention in our books yeah that in the case where IM Malik doesn't have a and then those in the based on us off the because they're qualified to do that and then but then what we will look we will look at this Masala in the sense of if let's say you just say oh by the

way I admit let's just say if you do come up with a fatwa which firstly I don't think you will be able to find a fatwa for can a woman go for a walk no she can't it's Haram but let's say you did and you said by the way here's a fatwa said by she let's just say a random she like she Zari right he gave this fatwa now if it's a person and it's not clearly documented throughout the maab it's just a scholar has said this we will invest okay will accept it it's admissible and we will investigate it and we'll investigate the the the stances which come against it yeah well I would agree with that because is from anything that comes from got to be okay

I mean or let's say even if it's from the point is that if you do bring a fatwa okay we'll then at that stage we'll okay take a look at it and then we'll explore it in contrast with what other people that have challenged it and then we'll see where we stand because right now is no fatwa like this so that we're discussing anyway so there's no fatwa that we're discussing so there's no point just hypothetically suggesting things so let's if we have a fatwa then we can contrast it with contrasting opinions all right have you have you come across the between concerning the IM who allows his wife to go out