Recordings › Magic: Myth and Reality in Islam by Mufti Abu Layth · 15 Apr 2018 › Segment 5 of 9
Where the story came from: polemic, the poisoning report and the ajwa dates
hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis hadees ahaadith malik ibn anas malik bin anas imam maalik imam malik ibn anas imaam imams prayer leader muftis makruh makrooh makruh tahrimi makruh tanzihi al-muwatta muwatta malik muwatta imam malik muwata sihr sihar jadu jadoo kala jadu sorcery surah sura soorah surat suwar soora sheikh shaikh sheik shuyukh shaykhs as-salamu alaykum assalamu alaikum assalamualaikum salaam salaams salam alaykum wa alaykum as-salam peace greeting
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machinesummary, machine-writtenMufti Abu Layth believes the story is misconstrued, possibly fed by polemical rumours of the time, and notes it contradicts the hadith that ajwa dates protect from magic.
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Mufti Abu Layth says he believes the event is definitely misconstrued, and suggests another ingredient may have been a rumour spread by some Jews of the time, amid clashes with tribes such as the Banu Nadir and at Khaybar [?], to claim a Jewish man had affected the Prophet when Musa was unaffected by the best magicians; he says this is not an anti-Jewish point. He says he does not accept in its entirety the story, as it is described, of the Prophet being poisoned by a Jewish woman, nor the claim that he died of it. He suggests that Imam Malik, by presenting in the Muwatta only the hadith that the magician should be punished, may be raising an indirect question about why the man in the story was never punished. He points to the contradiction with the hadith that whoever eats seven ajwa dates is harmed by neither poison nor magic, and mentions Shaykh Akram's point about a chain through Hisham [?] from his father from Aisha, noting reports, transmitted by al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, that Imam Malik disliked Hisham's later transmissions.
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Mufti Abu Layth says he believes the story of magic being done on the Prophet is definitely misconstrued.
“one understanding you've heard is that this is a misconstrued event I believe it definitely is misconstrued”
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Haditha yes I engaged in sexual into no I did and the wife saying no actually you didn't then what about those testimonies that were done before the Profi about people doing a crowd about Xena you know like nice and these are the kind of testimonies we have way they said oh I committed Xena and they're getting punished because they believed they did but surely if the Prophet himself could believe that he did and get it wrong according to this hadith then how can other people be held to account and they're not prophets where does the host where does the whole
chapter of testimony go this is such a dangerous kind of door or portal that that has been opened unfortunately so where does this come from one understanding you've heard is that this is a misconstrued event I believe it definitely is misconstrued but some another key ingredient maybe and I believe that in the time we know that there was obviously and this isn't a kind of an anti-jewish thing but there was at the time there was some clashes with some Jewish tribes of burning on the air and Haber and we know that this
these issues did have they didn't always there wasn't always ups and downs but there was as well quite a few towards the end of the life of the prophet sallallaahu I leave Salem I believe that this was a cup this rumor was also spread by some of the Jewish people why because you see in the time of Musa magic was at its peak according to them and the Jewish people were known for magic and they you see this thought that wait a minute our prophet Musa despite the best of magicians coming to him
couldn't be impacted in the slightest by magic yeah your prophet muhammad salallahu alaihe salam one of our very own did magic on him and impacted him for months on end you tell me who is better another part that adds to this narrative is there's another story which once again I do I personally do not accept in its entirety is the fact that the Prophet was poisoned well the way it's described I'm saying I don't accept it now once again by a Jewish woman you see
that not only do we poison your prophet and he can't be defended and some Muslims argue shockingly that even he eventually died because of that poison the Prophet died eventually several Muslims argue this is shocking now so the Prophet has had magic done by a Jewish man lebedev lassen who by the way does nothing happens to lobby the blosum there's no consequences he's never heard of his not punished and this in my understanding may be an indirect or an indirect kind of attack or a question mark presented by Imam Malik when he
presents the hadith in the Matta he ignores all of these are these but presents the hadith that the magician ought to be punished because if the magician ought to be punished then why wasn't lobbied they will ask them punished nothing about him nothing he just walks nothing about him after that now let alone the fact that the Hadi in the hadith when the Angels read Maya was attained cool out a bit of willful applause better been asked these are mucky sewers the Prophet already knew these sewers so okay the Prophet apparently forgot the maybe at that time the benefit of them oh they were reminded to him this is what the the
story is presenting in addition to their happens to be a hadith that Montes abraha be Sabbath Amati Najwa that whosoever eats seven a java dates a day Lamia dora who someone wanna see her this is apparently the prophet teaching this that anybody who is these dates cannot be harmed by neither poison no magic the two very things he then gets harmed why this is a mockery of Islam and it's an insult and an affront to our beloved messy
sallalaho aleyh wassallam now how that wait a minute the Profi is teaching this and then he's impacted by the to the both very things that he's actually teaching people or this is how you stay safe from these things he actually gets impacted by them and so uh so I wanted to just shed some light that this is utterly this is unacceptable altogether now the story is definitely either made up or misconstrued I do believe that is definitely misconstrued along the way it sounds actually very I love the input that the chef gave about his hands rewire about Bella honey and how this
may have then become transmitted as his famous chain from you know his father from Aisha because Imam Malik cuttable birth daddy transmits the Imam Malik never can allow your vehicie that he would he wasn't happy with his sham because especially since he came back from Iraq and what he used to transmit Khateeb al-baghdadi transmits from certain people that Imam Malik never used to like him and like his transmissions but I'm not saying I'm just pulling that in there as a little question mark I'm not saying you we have to reject all these transmissions or anything but it's a question mark to see hmm this is interesting now so so just
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