What does the Mufti think of Dr Umar Faruq Abdullah?

he there's there's all kinds of issues with him with this character simon but that's one little thing yes it's true and people that maybe did you know kind of like relay that story or some noses kind of people may have paid attention to it but this was not docetism dosetism was about jesus's humanity or was he just a resemblance so dr umarkan was presenting that look really the quran touches upon the oldest or the first heresy of christianity that the man crucified

was like a look alike but that's kind of misleading if you're portraying it like that so i was asked so i thought tk i'll give my thoughts on it you know i want to say that um right i want to say that you know [Laughter] you know this is the thing if i speak people say why this one's oh it speaks so you know people you see like sheikh dr

umar farooq abdullah you know my thoughts on dr umar is that he is incredibly talented honestly incredibly talented you know this legend of a man who has been studying islam probably from before i was born and at that stage he was grounded i mean he's one of the earliest western malikis and and he was so huge on the maliki mother these are obviously all kind of um knock-on effects of um

or triggered by uh abdul qadr sufi who i've spoken of previously and they were all very kind of uh upper middle class or upper class you know they they weren't just your kind of they weren't the kind of plebs of society very kind of elite people that were being drawn towards islam at that time and dr umar was somebody who goes off and he studies and his arabic is amazing for a convert you know it's um really good arabic and and i say that because you know most converts including sheikh hamza

yusuf and all these people even though the arabic is good but they still retain an accent a foreign i'm not saying there's anything wrong with that you know fine you know because it's not their language in essence but uh not many people can you know completely shed the accent especially converts because i suppose if you're coming from english the pronunciation of arabic and the tars and this and that it's slightly you know it's it's good don't get me wrong is arabic's good but it's still you can tell you know you can tell clearly this is a westerner speaking

now omar farooq abdullah however when i heard some of his arabic uh a while back i heard a recording of his about the mother i was wowed like because you know you couldn't tell anything i mean this guy his arabic was it could have been a saudi shirt or reading i mean you would not be able to tell because it was just an audio i was listening to in fact when i first listened i didn't even i thought who's this and he's speaking in arabic giving adars so he was massively talented and and you know the thing is and i say this

maybe this is just my perspective but i feel it's so much talent gone to waste i honestly i i say that because i i honestly feel that i feel that this is a person who could be you know they could be beacons of of hope for for islam in the west which in many ways they did serve for a certain period but what seems to have happened in old age it's weird i don't know what it is but in old age they seem to have been you know they seem to have gone full circle

to that we want to seek out that dizzy thing you know that all that typical you know that pir muridi you know i want to become a peace up uh this kind of spiritual share who takes bayer from people and this is a wolf kind of shoe and it's a waste honestly i i that's my heartfelt kind of thoughts on it i feel it's an absolute waste because you have to understand something a sh sheikh from the west is

never going to gain that mccomb of appear from the east never not in nowhere in the foreseeable or imaginable future it's not going to happen you see you have nothing on those bee sabs over there because the piece abs over there that you see it's the that folklore kind of you know it's there for centuries and the people around them and i'm i don't even i don't even think i think it's a it's something silly to chase anyway but if you were chasing it it's not gonna you know it doesn't work it's not

it and there's so much other talent here you know and it's all intellectual talent and it's all kind of just going to to waste pursuing a kind of beer sub spirituality and i don't know i i'm kind of i don't get me wrong i i love dr omar in terms of his intelligence and ilm but i just it's you see that's why it's as hurtfully disappointing to see this in kind of slow motion over the past several years like you think

you know this isn't yeah but i don't know man maybe people might think but this isn't like in any way to hate on him or anything i don't i have much respect for him but it's not my point was simply it's not going to it's a disappointment and i've seen a few americans do it actually i don't know whether it's why it's an american thing is it you know they seem to be really chilled until they reach a certain age then they take that kind of is it that razali thing you know we need to go to a cave and retreat and uh i don't know i don't know but yeah cool people

right so what is going on i'll tell you what one two quick questions then let's do the uh we'll have to do the uh let me add a little bit of right so do the masala thing and call it a night people are there any interesting questions here i haven't taken some from the jamaat on facebook so what are you guys saying huh imam trump says and then jesus returned as mirza mahmud that's one disappointing second return