Reply to Sunni (Wahhabi) Defence Pt.I -Mufti Abu Layth

so I had this link sent to me and people some people said hey you know on YouTube there's this live session going on refuting you you need to check this out right so I was like whoa all right go on then so later on I watched this thing and it was dedicated to me so when people are gonna dedicate something to me what the hell the least I can do is I suppose watch it so I kind of watched

this this thing I'm basically some guys I think three of them I don't know if there was a fourth I could make out three they they they had a YouTube live session criticizing criticizing me almost obsessed really and they were focusing on this video of mine from one of my Q&A s where I'm speaking about certain miracles and what I believed them to be unestablished non authentic

and the hadith that we've got in mind that I'm speaking about in that example is the tree crying and I said that look and I quote some of the hadith in there I quote this one from - I called this one from jabya radi allahu anhum and some other companions and i demonstrate how the chains have problems in them now they're criticizing that and they go right out a proper start cursing me I mean first they start off trying to be very respectful then they really going out you know like oh this guy you know peg Z he's just begging people for these

begging people hahahahaha you know what an idiot using that clever he's bloggers proper going at me yet nevertheless put that aside that kind of stuff I'm used to that kind of stuff but ok so so they make these kind of claims and then they say well he got this and they titled these multi Abul AIDS attack on the Sunnah this is what they Title II and and they're having this discussion and then they bring out some objections so I wanted to highlight some of these objections

where are the admin today mark and block crew on I need to know that you guys are are in operation right so now all right so this so anyway so I thought well okay fine some people have asked me can you respond to their can you respond to these kind of allegations that people have said and I think that's a fair point but before I do that I need to

kind of give a backdrop to what's going on first of all these people completely ignored what I mentioned about blasphemy okay good so I just seen the mock and block saying they're active right so by the way if some of the mock and block can get on to the YouTube channel and filter the the retards anyway so look I want to give a backdrop before responding to this those of you just tuning in click like click share get

this out there people right so this why have I in that video I made two key points okay the first one was to do with why this hadith is problematic this inside this narration this narrative is problematic and I go into some details and I mentioned why this is problematic and then I mentioned that people who are saying to me that I'm being disrespectful right are they I challenge and urge and beg these people since they claim to love the profit to

decry debunk and reject these teachings that are being pushed by Muslims about the Prophet saying things that the Prophet became clumsy because he had a magic spell done on him the Prophet became sexually impotent the Prophet married a child and had sexual relationship with a child that the Prophet a commanded the execution of people he didn't like and that the prophet Moses run around naked so people could see his testicles I said I beg you to reject and refute these teachings and

what do they do these idiots right all they do is they come on criticize my first point and affirm all of these teachings right so I'm gonna come to this now gradually so let's get into their criticism what they've raised about me so why did I just to make you understand why did I say this teaching is problematic okay before we even look at the asan eat which I demonstrated that as I need on this or problematic

about the tree crying and stuff like this but why is this an issue because this deem is built on reason when you start accepting unreasonable things then you have to be consistent you have to be consistent when I ask you why is Hinduism inaccurate why is it wrong why is a God with an elephant's head absurd why is it absurd you can't say because

that's dumb and doesn't make any sense and this this this but then it's okay for trees to talk and laugh and cry because both of these things make no sense in the real world you see you can't have one and you can't be very critical when it comes to other religions but have double standards when it comes to your own you must have one set of standards and you must put Islam to that test as well then you are true in your faith right so because otherwise you just when you're

speaking to Christians why are you saying oh these three gods and one makes no sense why does it make no sense because oh but it doesn't add up oh but what a tree crying adds up so why is it you can accept things but you can't accept things there so my point is that look have one set of standards I'm sorry but this you know that the fact that the tree had it could reason it could understand what was going on it could cry it could do these things it doesn't add this is a fairy tale kind of

religion that you're creating and then I said okay put that aside now let's look at the chains and I problematize the chains and shown that they have problems to them so so anyway the this channel called the Sunni defense right the Sunni defense channel who are a channel dedicating to dedicated to refuting the Shia they decided to suspend their day job of refuting the Shia and focus on me

so one of the major comments in that whole post to them was that guys he said this channel dedicated to the refutation of Shia so why are you guys focusing on Mufti ablaze because this is absurd they because they said like you you guys whether in fact somebody said this in the comments to them that whether a tree cried or not is irrelevant people are accusing eyeshadow dial on how being a prostitute and things like this and instead of you guys focusing your attentions on refutations what you guys

claim to be set up for you're too busy obsessing over mostly Abu layth because he has different opinions so this is so this is the key point deep miracles exist I have explained this on several occasions before that I believe that yes miracles is there like a spectrum okay so miracles did exist but what do miracles mean I don't believe there was ever a miracle that defies God's laws so Allah would not say about loose and then defy his own laws

that that would be that would be absurd so yes things which would be be very rare events could happen but they would always have an explanation and a means through nature and the laws of physics for them so that whether we know them or not but they would have as bad causes because the dunya is a dad a sperm so now coming to this hadith so these people said this now the Sunni defense team these three stooges if I can call

them right they go about kind of arguing against me about me criticizing these chains and I want to say here these people I assume them to be seller fees I could be wrong but this whole Salafi movement yeah the seller fees rose on the back of this sympathy you see of like that you see of trying to say don't look at tradish don't look at numbers it's not a numbers game it's the truth try to use try to look at the evidence try to be objective that you know they cried these claims

for years they were the Salafi movement began as an iconoclastic movement it rejected tradition yeah Annie I personally respected that about the seller fees that they had this the courage to to rise against the masses and to question things I personally respect that because it takes a lot of courage to do that then what do you know no sooner do they become an established like so first of all they rejected the four schools of

sunni jurisprudence and completely made up their own things then they went even further the mainstream entire Muslim Ummah almost believed in a certain belief like whether they were a shoddy matadv stuff like this they went against them and adopted this humbly Ikeda this kind of literalist dogmatic views in creed they went against everybody you told them oh but what about even the hogr have said oh it doesn't matter what about even a Salah no no it doesn't matter what about Imam no we owe it

doesn't matter what about all these my oh it doesn't matter what about it doesn't matter we have to go with evidence we have to go with objectivity we have to go with and no sooner do they become an established kind of group that they themselves readers resort to that same kind of dogmatic numbers game so they become the kind of oppressor that they try to rise against this is this is just typical of any easy you see these movements that try to remove despotic kind of tyrants

eventually the people that take over just become dead despots and tyrants themselves this is like history repeatedly shows us this so the seller fees who began with these sympathies today have just become the same thing themselves they've become the very frankenstein that they tried to warn against so it's it's shocking - okay now my next point is Elmore Rijal this science of arrived we've gotta start abdur-rahman Murphy in the house

Aloha Savin instead a Louis Arlen right now these this Elm original is the science of critiquing people in these chains our first point is did this come from God is this divine or is this man-made if it is from alanis messenger which it isn't everybody knows that the critiquing the chains of asani comes through men then in that case it will always be susceptible to susceptible to to improvement you can always work on it

people can always disagree on it the people that come later can have different opinions on it is not a divine science it is something that men have come up with then I want to add another point and this is important they say oh he critiqued things like Bihari and stuff like this well you see albani criticized Bihari alberni okay criticized several hadith in Bukhari probably just close to a dozen or so and clasp them as weak and rejected them amongst them the hadith of if not a bus which is in sahih hain

where he says may muna his auntie his aunt married the Prophet during a rama state of Ihram is an unacceptable hadith now these kind of things because it's false so these kind of things alberni and other people rejected oh it's okay when they do it along comes another person criticizes a hadith in Bihari all of a sudden that must be wrong he must be a deviant so that's one point I wanted to make clear the other thing is looking at their criticisms I'll go through some of these I'll try to just

address them just by going through them and then we'll move on I do want to address what is important is this marriage of Sofia or the on how to the profit and how that's being miss construed by non-muslims and unfortunately Muslims so people do share this get this out they click like click share those of you just tuning in click like click share third yeah scene is in the house all right click like click share get this out there people they share some of this all right now right

so now I'm trying to focus I know there's some questions coming in about miracles and stuff like this I've mentioned that all the miracles in the Quran first of all first firstly the way you may have understood them may not have been how this all the Salaf understood them so there's actually a huge difference on how the self understood those miracles and what you have had today has been a standardized view over time now if there's many other views that would belong to the selleth of this on mind that just because they

didn't reach you or you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't exist so to start off with okay so that's examples and then there's many things and the other thing is that miracles when they did happen they had as bad they had causes to them and we can call them miracles but they would not go against God's law of nature right now let's stay focused so this refutation people need so they began by saying okay most ebolaids attack on the Sunnah and what did I say in my speech in my kind of lecture I said that the school of Medina in mal

Malik differentiates between hadith and Sunnah we wholeheartedly embraced the Sunnah we are critical when it comes to hadith so there is a difference and I said the Sharia and the Salafis and these people don't differentiate but the Hanafi method did and imam malik smith of t so first of all them saying mafia blade attacks the sunnah I mean what a kind of [ __ ] mislead kind of way to just attack somebody at least we have some dignity in your approach secondly they they say that

oh I misquote imamova honey Imam Ali Imam Malik has never rejected any hadith he's rejected several hadith several hadith Imam Malik rejected when they presented to him and yes on many occasions they were a murderer in Medina he said that but what did that mean the practice of the people was didn't reflect the hadith and in some examples like the dog licking the bowl and imam malik says la caja a hassle ha ba la caja del cobre well i am a dreamer ha take her to he says but we don't know

what it's all about so they say we did in my mind there you go that is a famous incident and there's many others like that but anyway let's stay focused so they try to say that in this movie abou lathe has said one of the key first key points they bring out he is showing weakness in these hadith but he's making out that all the mahadba thene are in agreement with him What nonsense what utter nonsense I have not made out that all them I had the thing wrong with me in fact I very

clearly stated I said that there is a difference of opinion on this and why do I have to go with other people I'm going with when I quoted about how to McGraw Co these people I said I'm going with it why do I have to go with who you go with why you know when it comes to fifth you tell me oh don't blind follow don't blind don't go with them when it comes to art either you say don't go with the majority oh the by say look the majority of the theologians all said this the majority of the scholars of this Ummah oh don't go with majority when it comes to a hadith go with majority why should I go

with majority why I mean why is this a democracy all of a sudden so that is the first point okay so I never said that and watch my clip I actually make it very clear that they disagreed on this and I am going with this person then they quote things like he quotes he says on one point in this refutation he brings up a hadith with the Ravi that even a man el Habashi and he quotes me saying that Abu Lahab II said that he

was much rule feature holla and then first of all he says I don't know and they obviously there's a few of them and one of them is googling it and he says oh I found it here he's right he does say and he says well what's that baha Abu Salah and abuzer essays that he's reliable and then this guy says ah have you seen how musty Abu layth or Abu layth decided to hide that part first of all have some

shame I actually quoted it god damn it this is the irony what these people look at their own transmissions by eve by Eve that is weak I actually said in my video clip I said and even if people like Abu Salah said that but here the happy is saying this I actually said that so to come and say oh but why didn't he mention Amazonas name I actually said it god damn it I said even if I was her I said that so at least pay some goddamn attention

when you're listening to me right rather than just going making all these things up right so then he says oh and this is how they do this they're asking each other so what do you think hmm what do you think is this at the Asahi and the guy says oh I think it is sorry oh well bloody thank you very much oh do you now do you think it's all hey

oh oh my brother I'll be before you remember haughty thought he was sahi who the hell are you I don't give a damn about you i imam bukhari said it was sorry I know people have said it so he is our lake okay this has already been set aside this is I know it's a I'm showing you the LA according to other magazine I'm saying other people have said it's life ot so

would you brother Abu fool and would you say this is certainly a rather I would say this is I well I don't care what you would think you know what what is that supposed to mean Europe why is your opinion more valuable than mine of course it isn't hell no it isn't so that was his his his whole point was like let's ask the other guy so do you think this is oh I think this is definitely sir and then he comes out with I think the hadith from the prophet

of Jabbar is muta water through job it alone muta water means that something has so many transmissions that it's impossible to be ally right from the profit through jabbing jabbing is one person how can that be plenty motivated said that god damn let alone motor water this is an even sahi this is an even authentic and then he goes on to say

well okay you know you know it's interesting Abu layth didn't mention the other hadith he didn't you didn't bring the other chains Oh rather so let's see there what are these are the chain and you know what's funny is that when they overdo the Arabic

accent call they know the pronunciation you know I don't know the P no I I live in this place you know in this year United State but I don't know the B you know I can't pronounce it somehow that's supposed to lend more authenticity to them hilarious hilarious and what is it with some of these kind of people with the arabika

obsession you know it's like listening to them the all the overdoing it so much you think yeah when you're listening to them am I supposed to do will do or something what are the etiquettes to listen to these people right so okay he quotes a chain check this out now hmm right let me bring some of these chains up that he brings okay now he brings a chain he says that oh I'm surprised that

mafia belief most theable late left the more authentic narrations when it came to anis rhodiola on and he says the more authentic narrations from anis was this one from homogeneous element from thurb it's from anis now first of all he actually misses out the complete chain but okay I'll let that slide don't work buddy yeah don't worry bad let's focus on what you're actually saying I don't do petty you see unlike you guys don't do petty

ruthless maybe not Petie so I'm gonna let that slide the fact that you didn't quote the full chain let's go with what you quoted okay he says Oh in even imagine and some of these are the rewires imagine a Selma from rabbits from a nest oh whoa this is the most authentic you know this is the most authentic narrations we can get from honest and people have said that you know when it comes to unearth Abbott's is the most

reliable of people these this is what they say so okay so let's take a look imagine a cinema a great had a great movie it's Donna toffee Arcadia Marie it's Philip his memory became bad at towards the end of his lifetime memory became bad mm-hmm okay Lea trans a locally transmitted from from allele Medini who transmits from yagna side he says that he used to teach cobbler

cobbler lift a lot or bother and after if not after having messed up his memory well i FC who have them in black he didn't used to differentiate which was people couldn't differentiate it from his teachings which were from before his memory got messed up and which were from after oh we have problem my friend problem problem my friend first problem in the chain so I'm Matt from Sabbat right so he

sings a bit and savvy to toffee a theory hombre right a yubisaki any wouldn't even take his hadith right so just to begin with a yubisaki on e wouldn't take his hadith even ID transmits that and then right so this he and one point here he said Sabbath is the most reliable person from anis this is what he said so let's see what the scholars had to say about them what did I would I would say

when he was asked who is the most reliable person from anis he said it's Qatada qatada not Sabbath then he said you can accept thermal what did Abu Hatim rrz say he said it's Zuri then who then qatada then they'd you can take from Sabbath okay what about the so a lot of Abuja al-baghdadi when when he's speaking of at Medina humble being asked who is a spittoon ass from Anna's who is the most reliable source from honest and then he

says is it sabot or made at the wheel he says yeah hidden side would say the third bit taller Pie's memory got messed up but who made that the wheel is aspect so look at this chain a mullet eveness element by the way this madness Salman who I've shown that extol otaviano me hizmet is man we got messed up Muslim was very very kind of scrupulous when he would look at his change he would accept certain hadith from him only as

supportive measures and Buhari left him altogether Bihari does not transmit from a mindedness element because of this issue right so hammered from thurb it from anus and third bit is not the most reliable person from Anna's so there you go my friend this chain I problem me amigo this is a problem ass so this is not oh this is a unanimously agreed upon sonnet where is a unanimously

the pawn chain right so right so that was his first he brings this chain right okay then he goes on to say well okay he brings another chain right now he goes back to jabya they bring these chains to say Musti Abu layth left these chains oh and the chain is yeah yeah Adam says had definite Israel and obvious Huck I'm sorry did na'vi curb I'm Jarrett of not

Abdullah okay first of all right even mine transmits from yeah here Messiah Dominica pan that he would not accept Israel and would consider him die Eve and what did allele Medini also say about Israel naive but if so this Israel but let's what about let's go further in the chain so he did not become a leave no Medina says that Lemurian Valero

Abbas heart whoa a mudhole he is an unknown person we do not accept him we do not accept him people and even Muslim put him in Easter furrow that right he mentions him in his book and 140 that from those people who other people did not transmit from so he only has a boy's heart transmitted from him but let's not stop there then they bring another chain they say here's one of the most solid chains one of the most solid chains right so what is one of the most solid chains Abdul Razak from a blue jay rage

from a buzu Bay from Jabbar or the Olajuwon nice or rather this or not nice now you playing games so this is where they say this is where there's that dialogue that

game a cheeky Leone but I'd neither let you know you played it well you just chose the wrong opponent that's all a [Laughter] Chava or shall I say booter it's Mac listen up scootch a man listen to me right let's take a look at this Senate beginning with up the Raza Asuna honey Allah oh yeah Betty listen

to me what does it mean hey ban say about the result what can I mean you did and he was from those people who would make mistakes especially if he relied upon his memory right Apple had him says we write his hadith well I said Juba we do not take him as an evidence Allah and a sir he mentions him from the Dava Nasir is mentioning him from the door father he says were

feeding another and the Hobby says in his bees and who we are and a hadith mauna kea an imam ahmed in the ll in the Shara of Ellen Ellen mentions that he would transmit certain things from him that were actually mobile including the sahifa which is a well-known sahifa right so so this is another so that's up the rose artisan hani let's take a look at it nerd rage rage let's take a look at George and these are great people but

I'm just transmitting the Kalam the Kootenay what does that put me say about him Kabir he says his club that he is Kabir what that lease right and there B says that he needs to say had Bethenny for us to accept accept his rewired now they're going to say oh but in this chain he says a brawny he says aspirin e Abu Zubaydah so let's take a look at that in noting that I knew you're gonna bring this one

let's let's see what does Ali Al Madina say from ya here inside America pan that when if nurturing each is a caller if not H a Bahraini for who Allah shape it is nothing he's trying it because when he says Akbar Annie he means he just had the books what does Shabbos a shopper says I used to sit and watch it mature age come with just books and say to people like Zoe and other people I'm just gonna transmit these from you okay and they would say okay and shop bar would be like I used

to think what the hell so when he says Akbar Annie he's referring to just the book not the summit this is why the lobby says he has to say had Bethenny and let's take a look at Abu Simbel Sherpa what they show us a about him he says he used to make things up about people he didn't like my right so if marina and a yubisaki ami

considered him by Eve right abuzer our Imam Shafi'i Abu hot him and even Buhari said la the Jew baby ye right so people they go your chains flying out the window right where are they unquestionably conclusive that you claim where are they conclusive and you know what he said he tried to criticize one of Mike I was speaking about a chain in Bihari and he said Oh about a smile where Buhari is transmitting from is my lip

now be aways from his brother ran a burka or Abdul Hameed of workers is Cunha and he says that over that's not true you know my name considered him to be worse sorry so that's so first of all let's just take a look so he criticizes my criticism the book people the sheriff of the island of third movie this one please please please please my friend you we sit we listen to this one please right so yes he does transmit that there

is that opinion of yagna main saying that some people said yeah him mine accepted him but other people you tried it you know this one Burton eyes you know so what does yeah I mean say as a principal if not reachable humbly is transmitting from him that's the last object that these three houses a beer Tia is used as beaut as the pool of bait the in the year my I mean a Cheryl Cole they are from the worst of people the household of ethnic Adam and his

child were I live now awesome and his child what I'll do Abby always clone I'll be always cruel the entire family can win the who can you ain't know the Alpha know it can in the who the - did then he says the Alpha plural of weeks week okay so you can't say no a father in Arabic you can say they're often as well but these guys obviously they know

that you know Arabs they please please pay attention you know this one so can i in the who the Alpha remember that Baba these people I tell you so this is their this was their pathetic kind of refutation of me bringing a Hadees that are not sound themselves and then they have the audacity you know these people then they mock me and check this out this is how low they fall this is how

low they fall they said oh you know move right they said that you know move T he's picking up these points but what's the issue they said that what's this you know he's trying to say we should condemn this blasphemy condemn that blasphemy about the Profi and check this out they say they go on to affirm these blasphemous things about the prophet

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did you hear that he said that what is wrong with the Prophet being sexually impotent that is these are his this is on YouTube that's I think it is it 48 minutes into it he says that what is wrong with the Prophet being sexually impotent so what the Prophet doesn't have to be sexually active how disgusting wallahi these people stoop this low to prove a point that they attack insult the messenger of God if somebody said

that to their own father they would be they would be offended you know they go what's wrong with that what's wrong with that they quote call the ER by the yard and the Maliki method they say Oh Malik they say most ablators and support things like capital punishment okay I don't and they quoting the Maliki method the Maliki mother would consider that cap worthy of capital punishment like this is this is the level that you know if they have this issue of mine with blasphemy and they want to support these they themselves have been incredibly blasphemous so rude and

disrespectful to the Prophet right this this is just ridiculous that what is wrong with the Prophet being saying of course is wrong because it's not true it's an attack on the honor of the Prophet what is wrong with you why can't you see that why are you so blinded with this kind of a hobby kind of lens that you've got in front of you and I'm not attacking all who are hobbies or selfies but people with that mentality whoever they are if you if you have no seriously if you can say these kind of things about the Prophet it is

true that you have no respect for him it doesn't matter what your words so this is the truth these people they come out like oh we're here you know we want to defend Bihari we want to defend the opinions of this we wanted to offend the opinion but when it comes to the honor of the Prophet it doesn't matter all of a sudden it's like it's so what he says in this so what if the Prophet married a nine year old so what what do you mean so what if we found your dad with a ten year old girl would that be okay if your dad said oh but pre she consented

what what what on earth are you on about consent you sick disgusting kind of perverted but what do you mean consented why are you saying this about the prophet of God it is not true I've shown how those hadith if I have got problems in them right why do you keep feeding this kind of nonsense to the far right and they go get was so what so what they said on the oh and you know the Prophet became clumsy but so what this was magic you know because he's a human being a human being human beings can become clumsy what the hell is wrong

with you I oh my god oh my god just to prove that you are right get out of your goddamn ego just to prove your point that you are right you are prepared to throw the Prophet under the bus that oh so what he's human he can be clumsy what do you mean so why are you saying these things like I don't understand why you're saying these things so this is this is the kind of nonsense that we have and this is what people do you know they and

I'm not saying that these people don't have some twisted sick sincerity to them they may have some kind of sick sincerity to them I'm not here to judge their sincerity but what I am here to tell them is that is messed up man that you your attitudes towards the Prophet of Islam oh very disturbing so so I mean I'm just gonna leave that thing