Is Jay Smith a reliable critic of the Quran's preservation?

he's come back he's decided to strike back against jay smith and co and what he's saying is you guys have been for months using my name uh you can watch the whole video i just took some snippets there it's on youtube he's saying you're using my name you should stop using it you guys i you know you're misusing my holes in the narrative because that's what he said yeah

you know he was with muhammad hijab it don't press me yeah mom right so right so what do i think about this so first of all i feel that look as far as let's discuss jay and cole first i do agree with what yeah i could with yes below it i do agree with him that jay smith is not uh clued up at all re i mean he obviously knows a certain amount of things but he's nothing

as special when it comes to an islamic understanding i don't think he's he's saying he's not an academic i i'm not surprised he showed a lecture he shows snippets from a lecture where j smith is making terrible blunders about quran preservation that's certainly true jay smith often just summarizes points from other academics he himself is um you know he's not talented like that and i've spoken about him in the past he will jump on all kinds of things he won't listen to what those same academics are

saying so sometimes i believe it's that same lecture or it's one way he's presenting similar slides he will say things like muhammad never even existed anybody nobody can prove he ever existed and no person has ever said and then in the same lecture he will quote patricia crone yet patricia crone is the same person that will say you know it's beyond a shadow of doubt to her and to other academics that muhammad did exist as a person i mean you could debate whether he was a prophet you could debate whether he was good or bad from a muslim non-muslim perspective but to

debate whether he existed or was he just a a ghost a fantasy that people invented the evidence is too well stacked against that so it clearly shows that either he's unaware of what those academics are writing or he is aware but doesn't care and he's just about provoking and sensationalism and drama and i think pretty much he's like that he to me is just a fanatic christian dawa boy that's what he's like so you know when you get people on the muslim scene

who just preach preach preach uh quote one two scholars like sometimes you know people will send me clips of alidawah other people now these people are not scholars and they say all kinds of stuff and it's all about sensationalism he is the exact same thing but anti-islam and christian that's what you know he is not somebody that is himself well read he will just summarize some points he's heard of so right now he'll speak about the five stages of the canonization of the quran and he will quote that you know there was the first stage with uthman second stage with ibn mujahid

the third stage he'll he'll quote uh um adani about dhani he'll say the fifth stage of jesus and then uh sorry the fourth stage just reach out to be the fifth stage he'll speak about in the late ottoman era just post ottoman era sorry 19 24 to 1930s now this to a somebody like a layman will seem like wow this guy is so intelligent he knows so much but in all honesty all he's doing you know there's doctor shadi who is a professor from harvard

who's written several books and has some lectures he's just heard that summary lecture of dr shady nassar not shaddil masri shadi who is a respectable professor of religious studies and and his thesis was on the quran so he speaks about these five stages he's just quoting that you know those two sentences from him but it sounds so overwhelming that if you hear it you think bloody hell this guy must know so much and it's interesting he quotes amra dhani he says about

uh the two uh rawi kanan but really even though adani's name is given but really was ibn khalboon so so the point anyway just goes to show yasir khadi is right that he is not clued up david wood similarly is uh is a very similar it's on the same level as um as jay smith you're not going to really get much difference dan brubacher okay i haven't looked that much into but he shows some crazy blunders done by him which are laughable very laughable i have to admit so on all

of these points i think yasir hadi has a clear point not clear point he is on point that these people are not clued up and they are kind of uh clout chasing um you know they're kind of riding the hype they're riding the wave that is true and they are kind of fanatic preachers uh fundamentalists in their own way they kind uh these uh eve if you know in their own way they are the kind of taliban brigade of christendom but most christians

wouldn't probably agree with their way of doing things so that all is fine and i agree with that however as to this i don't know what to call it really this tragedy or this crisis that has given birth to this whole thing of holes in the narrative [Laughter] you know the ummah was well on its way

it was reasonably fine and yes he's done a quite a decent hole here so this holds in the narrative the truth is that yasar khadi has landed himself in it and he's landed himself deep you know this hole it goes deep so the problem is he's never offered a response or any clarity at the time he did a pathetic job of trying to say well come on my course