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Why do some Muslims struggle to accept that Adam might have had parents?

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Why struggle to accept it? God keeping His rules is no restriction

DiscussionRecorded 13 Oct 2020Segment 10 of 14 in the recording2020-10-13-S10

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Mufti Abu Layth says nothing in Islam falls apart if Adam had parents, so the resistance must come from something other than Islam, and God keeping His own rules is no limitation.

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Mufti Abu Layth says no one has ever known a person born without a mother and father, and that reality, mathematics, genetics, science and the Quran confirm it, so the caller should introspect on why he struggles, since he has agreed Islam does not fall apart if Adam had parents. The caller says God does not have to abide by His rules, and Mufti asks why then He must keep His rules about the akhirah. The caller distinguishes the laws of nature from what God has said; Mufti replies that God's speech being true is itself an observation within reality, that the caller has never seen the barzakh yet accepts its rules while feeling the laws of nature daily, and rejects a comparison with the rock too heavy for God to lift.

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Mufti Abu Layth says God sticking to the rules He created is not a restriction on Him.

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“first of all he's the one who created them it's not that he's being forced to stick by them he says this is my son now you're never going to see it change”

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it's the ch it's the genotypes the genetics that that they're actually looking at okay just to be clear because sometimes people forget that they think oh we're talking about when darwin you know didn't have genetics and he didn't have dna right so okay what we know is science today not just science dna shows you that things are related okay we accept that it shows you that things have been like this is related to mammals which are related to this and you can see and from that you can gather a story we have in the quran allah is also affirming this

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we have in our observable world every like i'm sure you don't know a single person who was ever born without you know both a mother and father i'm sure you wouldn't know a single person like that in in reality you would never know that that that's i can state that as a fact right and i'm sure you know that as a fact that every single human being on earth that has ever lived that you know or that you know anybody who knows has also followed that law of nature it's not like this is not something which oh wow you know every third person is born without a dad right so now there is a reason that you are struggling to accept this

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there's a reason you're struggling because it's not your reality confirms it mathematics confirms it genetics confirms it science confirms it the quran confirms it as well but you're you're struggling with it now the question is this you have to introspect why are you struggling because when i asked you that look if adam was born of parents how does this how does islam fall apart like how does this ruin the message of islam and you said well it doesn't which is true it doesn't it doesn't like if i asked you what was the name of no islam's mom and dad you wouldn't know i wouldn't know what

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what what the problem is is saying that allah has to go abide by the rules that he has created he doesn't have to but when you say about faith he has to abide by those rules then what do you mean by that because when when you speak about faith that allah says he created a hell a heaven and after life if you do this if you believe in him you'll go to heaven but obviously with his grace but you do does he have to abide by those rules then or did there doesn't have to be an afterlife he could just change his mind because if he follows rules he's restricted no but but that's different why is that different because you're

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saying god creates rules and to stick by them if he sticks by them a hundred percent then he's somehow restricted now we would say well first of all he's the one who created them it's not that he's being forced to stick by them he says this is my son now you're never going to see it change he tells you that these are his rules but you're saying but somehow there's a problem if he sticks to his rules so then in that case why does he have to stick to the other rules about the akhira and the things like this uh well the laws of

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nature versus what allah says and has said and why he has to abide by it are two different things no because now to say something to speak is still a a phenomenon within reality within nature is it not so you're saying that speech must be coherent with reality like when i speak i must speak the truth why that's also an observation of nature is it not like you observe truth within react within nature you don't observe it outside of nature so if you're saying when allah speaks in the quran he sets rules those rules he has to follow when he sets rules in nature

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those he if he follows them then he's being too constricted and he doesn't need to and we can't constrict god so i i'm struggling to accept that but i'm not struggling to accept this the rules of death after life is different that is different has been said in fact let me get this right the berzerk you've never even seen it it's been mentioned all right yeah but you've never seen it but these laws but these laws of nature you have felt every single day yeah you've actually they're as real to you as you are but yet you say that for st you know to have these rules and to always stick by them is a restriction

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and things which yet have no actual existence for you as apart from just what you've heard and read they don't actually they don't have a tangible reality for you well reality in terms of what memory because i mean no not memory tangible reality a tangible reality when we were in our mother's womb we didn't know we existed when we were up to three we didn't know we existed but you do now i do know it's different exactly so did i not exist because i don't remember right no i'm not saying that but what i'm saying to you is that it's interesting that you i don't have a problem with saying that when allah creates rules he sticks by them

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but this seems to you feel that that's a problem for allah to stick by his own rules because you're saying allah create who created the laws of nature of course so so for him to stick by them it seems to be a problem to you no it doesn't why what i'm saying is he's not uh bound by them yeah but he's not bound to to make an akira for you

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so so this so there's a likelihood there may not be an akira then no he isn't so he's bound he's not bound uh no exactly so what you're saying is god sets out sunnah and he says you won't they won't change your question is kind of a thing can god create a rock that's so heavy that he cannot pick up no they're not they're not it's nothing like that they're nothing like that i've actually asked them if if you know if you say no it also limits no because i've asked you a very reasonable question i've said to you that look who created

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the laws of nature and he said well god did so i said well what's the problem if god keeps the laws of nature he said no no but that's if he sticks to his rules then he's restricted so i said well who created the rules that there's going to be an afterlife he said well god well by that logic if he sticks to this he's also restructured after life is doesn't abide by the rules of this this this world but it abides by some rules yeah but it's not from does it abide by the rule of existence what do you mean by that that's a rule like the the fact that it has to tangibly exist uh well uh i believe uh you know i'm a very limited uh uh school

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is but so what i'm trying to control the soul is immaterial so our body in this world is primary our soul is secondary when we die our soul becomes primary our bodies material that's not right i'm not talking about the soul right i'm saying that same thing the issue is this you are struggling to accept something now you need to introspect what is the problem because it's not islam it's something else that's the problem that you are refusing because the quran is actually saying that and the laws of

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nature around you are saying that what what is bothering you to believe that allah created adam and eve out of nothing they would they don't have wombs they didn't have mothers or fathers they were created just the way that allah tell you what's stopping me i'll tell you what's stopping me reason i'll tell you no surat minoon i've read the verse to you verses 12 to 14.

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