Could the hadith tradition evolve like a living organism?

god it's i swear by he who abu hurairah's life is in his hands that this this this you see so it's a concept and then it's reified it finds a it becomes real it finds a body it's concretized so it's like you send out this idea this thing it's it's here and it comes back so the kind of ripple and boomerang effect that's happening it comes back and it it kind of concretizes this because it matches it and it it creates a kind of equilibrium

harmony so i don't know if that makes uh i hope that makes some sense people but that was to explain why i felt um what i did about these hadith this theory that what about other hadith that are the same but in other books and here i'd just like to say a quick word on right hmm i'd been thinking people i don't know if you've heard of uh darwin's cathedral

okay so professor david sloan wilson so he has this this book and he has lectures on youtube as well so it's evolution religion and the nature of society so what david sloan is arguing in darwin's cathedral is that what he's arguing is that not just biology as darwin had argued evolves and kind of takes on a life in accordance with

survival of the fittest he argues that systems of belief and cultures equally are like living organisms they take on a life of their own and they too evolve but they they're not just to be treated like um you know very superficially as in oh this is just what people do but these are you know memes i know richard dawkins nowadays memes are just funny things but memes richard dawkins what he was speaking

about is mimetics that behavior or information is mirrored and it kind of takes a life like a parasite in society and it has a almost like a mind of its own except we're not saying it's conscious now i was thinking about all of that in light of hadith now i feel that this applies to hadith that it may may well sorry apply to hadith because hadith is a you see it's a hadith system it's not an

individual hadith we're just talking about talking about a system that involves a lot of human agency you know memorizing relaying interpreting giving you paraphrasing um authority power orthodoxy is created on the back of hadith this it's a huge it's a system okay now

systems what if they equally attract us to them what if you see because what if ideas and these these kind of uh it's i suppose small at a low level just ideas but at a greater level systems of ideas

what if they are like how you have viruses how you have i'm not saying that in a negative sense but how you that they have a kind of uh a hyper existence not a you see you need to bear with me because i don't want see people might think what on earth is mufti on about here look in the past people looked at biology they looked at life very simplistically yeah they they didn't understand microbiology they didn't understand germs they didn't understand uh bacteria and viruses

so they understood contagions to be very simple like you touch someone it passes on they couldn't understand how something is airborne because they couldn't understand they didn't have that level of understanding of microbial entities today we do so we view these this world differently technology like we view things like look at today the way we understand things like like wi-fi like let's say i'm downloading a song or a movie now it is just coming in the air

to this device a whole movie is just coming in the air now if you try to explain that to somebody 500 years ago they would find that dumb and they would argue against it with good reason like they would say oh well in that case if if i put my hand in front of it shouldn't i be blocking it now or if there's a wall then how can it go through the wall or how you see like they would from their perspective have good reason to argue against it but today with evidence you know that oh and with a more complex understanding of how technology works you know that well actually

this is the correct depth understanding you know a deeper understanding of technology so you see what i'm trying to say is we have a very superficial understanding of one consciousness and two ideas which in essence is information but ideas like we don't understand like to us like we just we have a very shallow understanding like oh well there's a there's some kind of neural active electrical activity it's just a current taking place but i feel that ideas are

much greater than that that they reside in the realm of consciousness that they are kind of and what if the way a virus is drawn to its host you see what if ideas are drawn to certain people as well and you see and and why what why hadith in this light because hadith is a system a system of ideas it's a belief system in and of itself so when you consider it that you have to understand

that the way a virus would mutate and take on a life of its own to survive the hadith system once put into existence would do the same it doesn't matter it would become it would outlive the individuals it would become a kind of organism that meets the challenges of the day and age and it would obviously manifest that through the minds of people that it that that preoccupied themselves with it but

yeah i don't i mean [Laughter] you're gonna say yeah mufti's gone mad but i'm serious you see this is why complex belief systems they always evolve you see they this is and the reason i'm saying about hadith is because like all these effects like the boomerang effect the the kind of rippling effect standardizing self-correcting along the way i know people are doing it but as a kind of psychosocial organism

this belief system it would be driven to make people do that to kind of ensure its longevity to survive now you may say well you're kind of ascribing uh volition and consciousness to it but am i because look viruses don't have consciousness but that's they have but they're driven and yeah so i don't know look this is food for thought don't shoot me but i i'm intrigued you see i was thinking about this and i was thinking

hmm like you see if belief systems what's to say that i know we are drawn to certain ideas but what if certain ideas are actually drawing us in towards them forget about it people i know you're thinking mufti's lost the plot ah yeah i've lost it i know

but yeah so that's i don't know food for thought food for thought people or or do i need to do i need to go easy on the psychedelics is that what it is but yeah so uh right let's move on people let's move on also that you know the honest earnest just a tiny footnote that would give a different understanding to what plato was saying about the forms because people obviously asked where do these forms exist and what is it but what if they exist existed as concepts in the realm of consciousness food food for thought people food for thought right so anyway anyway mufti's lost the plot

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