A Reply to False Messiahs: Mirza Ghulam Qadiani! -Mufti Abu Layth

right okay so let's get to this uh the kadiani thing people okay i gotta give you the backdrop right this is the backdrop okay it's more important because you have to understand why i'm clarifying on the kadyani's so people over the past few days i i i have been getting trolled by who by the katyanis

this is embarrassing to say but i i've got i'm but i've got to okay give you guys the backdrop so some kadyani guy made a video about me this is this is so embarrassing it's getting trolled and bullied online by katya this is like getting bullied by a librarian i've got like some nerds bullying me [Laughter]

it's like confidence today it's like look at the confidence these people have so anyway what's happened is some padiani decided to make a video for no reason i have not been picking on katyani's i have not been picking on kardiani i have even called in the past to tell people and i still support that i'm against oppression and persecution and all that kind of stuff of anybody right and i've said that about cardianis as well but out of the blue some guy just thought i know here's muftiya

i don't know why he thought that he's either never watched any of my refutation videos [Laughter] so he's decided to make a video saying in fact you know what if i can bring up a brief clip on youtube now he made this video just saying that look multiple lathe and this is the dumb thing he's trying to roast me in it okay it's not trying to curse roast because obviously for that you need a sense of humor and if you had a sense of humor like that then you wouldn't you obviously couldn't follow that

messiah but i'm gonna get to that in a moment right so the so he says that look basically half the time he's saying anything good i've said or anything interesting he's saying i've taken it from them so every everything i'm saying that makes sense oh yeah he took this from us but we explained this better than he does and everything so for example he says oh i've said that there's going to be no second coming of jesus let's say he says oh he he took this from the khadiyanis i took this from the katyani's did i even though i've got a video

explaining that the whole messiah concept is what gave rise to the khadianes but he he says oh look uh anything like when i've said look there's no apostasy sorry there's no ruling for as in you know you don't kill the apostates and things like this so he said uh oh he plays that clip and he says we agree here with him but basically i'm somehow taking this from them as well uh but they still explain it better and then he just keeps he takes and then he refuse and then he just does like loads of what that sunni defense were doing

i think he just took the video here's this guy mufti abu leith saying tattoos are not haram here he's saying this is not haram he is not oh [Laughter] [Laughter] so this is the guy right i'll just saw a brief clip of him not the last

religion he brought the last sharia and is the last law bearing prophet as for the books but anyway then they repeatedly tagged me into this clip and then i just said look this is so dumb but they wouldn't let me be so okay i said to them look if you carry

on people i'm gonna respond to you guys so anyway that was the background then they trolled me they came so many of these guardians came onto my posts on instagram and they made all these comments within something like a few hours i must have had to block something like 40 of them something like that and then over this following days they continued to troll i couldn't believe this yeah right so this this is just taking the mix so anyway i said look okay hold your horses hold your horses people yeah i will so one of them

started emailing me and he started asking me these qu oh it's me i said who who are you introduce yourself i'm the one who did this and about this video and this and this and this yeah i don't even know who you are you're not introducing it i've got no idea and so obviously you know if you're gonna wind me up so i just said to them look okay legitimate question i said okay here's a sincere question was mirza ghulam

okay sorry okay sorry people but but that's what you're gonna get if you provoke people like me this is obviously gonna happen then he was like look oh my god i've i'm going to share these emails i was like why are you going to share them i will share it anyway so put that all aside so people have asked what is this khadiyani thing what is the backdrop let's explain about mirza ahmed khadiyani sahib that's right so people first of all right i'm going to

come back to those of you wondering who he is i print it off [Laughter] but you might want to see his picture closer still so the the bloody good-looking fella honestly

god damn honestly honestly yeah this this is a bloody good looking guy right so this is him now born in 1839 in punj in

honestly i'm not this i had some people say to me i had this one lady this one this one girl messaging me telling me how she's a convert to padianism and she said ha i used to be a sunni muslim but i left and i became so i just said okay good good for you and she was like ah you watch what allah is gonna do to you this this this this this so i just i said to him listen okay out of curiosity then

i said i just want to know do you seriously like i want to really know do you really believe do you really believe in do you really believe in him really and she said yeah al hamdulillah yeah alhamdulillah i've got to play the both roles in it let me i don't know whether she added the portables so anyway i said so okay so do you believe that god spoke to

to our and she said yeah i believe god spoke to him i said in punjabi [Laughter] i said do you really believe that god spoke to to gulam khadiyan to mirza khadyani in punjabi what's the problem with that so i said look let me get this right people

in in an age of tyranny and vicious vicious evil that has encapsulated the globe and manifested it as colonialism with mass genocide taking place the butchering and robbing of resources and humanity has plunged into a a time of suffering god decides to break his laws of nature and intervene in free will i mean one is the

belief that okay god doesn't intervene then he lets humans be responsible but god decides to break those laws and intervene again he's going to intervene people and he intervenes by having a chat with some guy in punjabi that's the plan

are you for real that is the divine plan that god's just gonna have a chat with some guy in punjabi and and that's it like there's no change yeah that wasn't this supposed to be some change here this is like the darkest times that that humanity are going through of suffering and you know since you're going to intervene anyway but rather than just having a chat in in punjabi god says he says

right so so the thing is anyway but then you know god chooses obviously the most handsome of punjab or sada punjab so god chooses obviously the most oh guys i've got something for you you know if there was ever somebody that could rival right in his got i got a printout

there was ever somebody that could rival in aesthetically in divinely given looks have you guys heard of smart you know because this is this one is smart you know smart smart in is like well-dressed smart [Laughter] smart have you heard of this guy by the way he's like a social media legend his name is uh this is it his name is smart hariram serial kisser

i'm not making this up honestly his name is serial kisser he's smart hariram hari ram i'm telling you honestly is his posts i took something let me just one moment people and then i'm going to carry on don't worry i'm going to carry on with the but i gotta i gotta share some of this with you i got two man i got to this is people this is smart hariram [Laughter] and here he is again if ever somebody could rival

hariram serial kisser good look so here he is again in his photoshop and he says look friends today i tell you one cigarette secret gal dagot proposed me one term but i said no i said hariram is no marriage to women oni please women she smiles and says she is not women's her name is

her name is gal i said okay girl but i am not your boy [Music] hashtag serial kisser hashtag hariram so ghulam and the reason why hari ram is not it's not an insult because later on you're going to learn in a moment hariram khadyani saab actually claimed to be an incarnation of krishna krishna ji later on krishna i'm not making i'm not making i'm going to quote the sources yet

i'm not making this guy you guys don't believe me this is the problem you know you know so let's get on to a bit of facts about uh who was aka harirao right so he's born in 1839 in punjab now i want to mention something a lot of karjanis will say that oh he did not claim to be a prophet some people will say this to you

and and they will quote you his books right now the interesting thing is that's partially true that's a half truth know this one after without her the reason being is because kadyani went on a developmental journey right and there was so initially if you see in 1884 he claimed he an open proclamation to be a revivalist and a reformer so it is true in his early years he did not claim any kind of messianic mission

or prophethood so they will show you these books okay so they will say that look in these books he doesn't say that and that is true however seven years later he made an announcement stating that he was the promised messiah and in 1901 he claimed to be a prophet he claimed prophethood and in 1904 he claimed to be krishna krishna [Music] you know that krishna this is nothing to do with sikhs by the way sikh somebody is saying something about sikhs he is nothing to do with sikhs punjab is is a

huge region in fact a greater part of punjab is actually in modern day pakistan so there's more of punjab in pakistan than there is in india today so punjab is actually nothing to do with i mean obviously there's sikhs in punjab but there's muslims in punjab as well and historically there was our good looking guest in punjab as well so so there are and i accept look there may be some cardianis that haven't accepted

uh mirza sahib to be a prophet there may be some but the majority of them do okay now some claims made by mirza aka syria okay by the way in his lifetime he had an addiction to certain drugs but hey i'm not one to judge i'm judging no no don't you don't judge people no no don't are you judging don't judge

we're not judging about the addiction to he did have some addictions to certain drugs but but but but but no judging right so what did he say though what were the claims he said an angel comes to him right the angel he said gibrael has been renamed as aeil [Laughter] said he's called his new name was and he said comes to me again and again this was in his book called on page 103 honor 3 he said i swear by allah saying that

these are the words of allah which were revealed to me this is in his book people he said check this out in his book rouhani hazard spiritual treasures he said that and i swear by the lord that he has placed my name as a nabi as a prophet and he has called me the promise promised messiah in his book sorry in his son's book mirza bashiruddin he wrote it is very clear and evident that after the prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam

the door of prophethood is still open loves the book he writes in his mirza hariram writes in his book rouhani afterwards revelation kept coming to me as the rain clearly addressing me as a prophet these were his words many he had i'm not saying that he's he's saying he's in another one of his books he wrote in i am adam i am noah i am david i am jesus the son of mary and i am

muhammad these were the words of right so this was in his page [Music] right this is what he used to call his new sharia he used to call his new laws that he's bought the ark of noah in this he writes blessed is that person who recognized me

that of course you're gonna well obviously you're gonna be ah you have to recognize him obviously with that thought he's wearing on his head sorry sorry keep it academic keep it activated so this is these are his words okay i'm not making any of this up because some people might think i'm making this up his followers send salatu assalam upon him so they so for example in the books of al-fazal kadyani you have the book of the rude wasalam upon him imam that they call him the imam of the

creation assalaamu like this they send that upon him okay in one of his now in his early years he did write so in his early books like he writes anyone who claims to be a prophet after the prophet is cursed so sometimes khadianis will show these early things and say look he didn't look he didn't make these claims but that's in his early years that is true he did used to say i have no claim to prophethood that is in his book so in his early years he did do a lot of this in aina kamala he writes i am not a prophet i am an addressee

so somebody who god speaks to but later on he does this is part of his development so in kashtianu in the ark of noah he writes page 47 the mystery is now cleared uh he says this is christ who is awaited and in the words of inspiration it is i who is meant by mary and christ it is about me so you know when the goddani say jesus is not going to come back they weren't saying it like you know when i said oh jesus i don't believe jesus is going to come and other scholars the great masha'ikh al-azhar and

muhammad abdul and rasheed riddha and all these great sheikh shalt and mustafa maragi and all these people who didn't believe in the second coming of jesus christ and abu kalam azad and people like away the lasindi and even problematized it and all these kind of things all these people allama iqbal that's because they didn't believe in the messianic vision we believe that islam was completed with the prophet the reason khadiyani said that and i understand that many muslims do believe that jesus is coming but the reason why cardiani said that jesus christ is not coming because

he was meant to be jesus christ that's what why there was no second uh jesus now i actually somebody here is saying tasnif akbar is saying and i agree with dasani i actually do feel that he it wasn't about him lying i feel that he had mental health issues i actually do believe this i'm not saying this as a kind of cuss i actually feel that he he kind of lost the plot like mentally internally and he started to see these things this is why i don't fault him as much as i felt people who like

i i think do you really believe in that that this is that god this is god's great solution to mankind to have a chat with some guy in punjabi oh and by the way he spoke god spoke to him in other languages as well god spoke to him in english and you know what god said in english oh sorry wrong sorry wrong serial kisser do you know when god spoke to him what god said in english because he said god spoke to me in english as well and in english he said to me i love you

i'm not making this yet i'm not making this up he actually said god spoke to me in english and he said i love you i love you yeah i love you this is this is the that was god's english to him it really was that god said to me in english i love you what is god doing if he's gonna intervene this is not the time to intervene by just having gupshop in punjabi and just saying i love you in english there's got to be some other intervention right so okay now by the way he came out with some verses of the quran

himself he said about other verses so he said that certain in his book page 281 he wrote that was revealed to him and the verse in surah in s that we have raised your praise was revealed about him he said that the verse of the quran was we have not sent you except as a mercy for the world was revealed by him this these were his these are in his book [Music]

page 281 then he said there were new verses of the quran that were revealed to him like the people of suffa and what do you know about the people of suffer you will see their eyes are flowing with tears and peace and blessings upon you and so on and these were new parts of the quran that came to him and in another verse god said and we have revealed it close to qadhyan that's a verse of the quran that according to it was a new verse of the quran that we have revealed it close to kadyan

and in another thing he said as well that you know the masjid al-aqsa was his mosque in padian and he said on the night journey the prophet didn't go to in the night what i believe was and many people believe was a vision and other muslims believe was physical but either way that where the prophet went they said he didn't go to jerusalem he went to pakistan he went honestly i'm not making this up he says in his book that he went to pakistan to kadyan i mean it wasn't called pakistan then but in punjab that the prophet traveled to the punjab in kadyan

and that's where he went to that mosque and he declared his masjid to be as virtuous as the as makkah and he said that if you don't have money to do hajj you can come to his uh his place his he's kind of masjid now later on in life towards the end of his life he declared himself to be krishna and he said that they he saw this in a dream and indian hindus prostrating to him and stuff like this so this is this is not me and i do actually believe this is a reflection of his mental health right so i'm not kind of uh see like he said in

uh aina kamala in page 564 he wrote i saw in a dream that i am the lord i then firmly believe that it was so in kitabal baria page 85 he wrote i saw in one vision that i am god and i then firmly believed in it you know that hadith of indeed god is beautiful it gives it a whole new

okay i need to i need to i need to behave okay but it gives it a whole new meaning but anyway so you can see these are his own writing so when people say he has not said uh he has said these things in his book in page 7 he wrote what is shari'ah i have given commandments of do's and don'ts and have prescribed laws for my followers he writes that my sharia is named the ark of noah okay so this is uh as you can see right so there are a lot

of and i will actually what's interesting i'll tell you about some of the uh prophecies he made that weren't for foot i mean obviously they weren't fulfilled but that kind of came back and people [Music] had a go about them so in his time he made a prophecy that i will live to be 80 years old at least but he died before that but he can't he tried he tried he did he tried behave he tried he tried his prophecy is that he would marry muhammad begum

before his death making prophecies about marriage to muhammad but unfortunately he never got to marry her that was a another prophecy he made a you know there was a sheikh of his time called uh who's one of the great chairs of the hadith movement who is also a a kind of colleague or an a part of the same group of maulana inaudible gujarati who later on split they used to be in delhi who went on to teach and say

that for example the thing about jesus not coming and and it's his student who is maulana abdul karim who has the tafsir which i often uh quote from in some of my uh lessons and stuff right so maulana or amritsar is one of his major opponents during his lifetime so he challenged him and took him up to all these debates and everything and they did a mubahala so at one point got to a point where they said okay uh you know may the curse of god may the person who's lying die first and whatever and so so he was actually keen

on that mubarak making that oath but then he unfortunately died i mean that's hardly the way to do it is it but he actually did the same thing with a christian as well called dr abdul hakeem and he did a mubarak saying that the liar amongst us will die first not to hold these claims to wait i mean but i'm just saying but then he died it just sounds dumb that's all right he also made revelation that god has revealed to me that he will give me another son before i die but

god god said no chance god said no chance my friend no chance so he never got that he died without that his claim that allah revealed to him that he would marry many more virtuous women this was a claim made by him but uh he didn't marry any more women after that either he made a prophecy about him marrying this a widow i think he was trying but um this one no no then he made a prophecy that i will that

he will die in makkah madina [Music] no chance [Music] so all of these things unfortunately he died of cholera and he got cholera and in fact in his earlier things he said cholera was such a curse from god but then he got it himself and he he he actually died because i mean not not to obviously because of old age as well but also because of indigestion and having toilet problems and his colon and things like that got infected and

uh he couldn't go to the toilet and so he just eventually died yeah you're thinking i'm taking the mick i'm not yet i'm just stating the facts i'm going with the man the okay take the facts okay just take them okay so so so for example bashir his son writes in his biography my mother informed me that the first attack of looseness what do you think like attackers in the british attack as in the colonial no yeah not the colonial attacks of looseness of bowels

attack all right so he said my mother informed me that the first attack of looseness of bowels upon the promised messiah occurred when he was at his dining room table later i started pressing his legs and he laying comfort after a short while he again felt the call of nature and used the bathroom a couple of times then he goes on saying he became very weak and so on once again he had an urge but he was too weak to go

to the lavatory i made arrangements for him close to his bed these are all part of his sons in rouhani uh part of his son's biography of him and i'm not making this up people i don't make this up you know hari ram serial kisser i have no i have no right to make anything up so and then you have his doctor for example his final uh he writes as well that uh could not talk two hours before death dr mirza yakube

and dr sayyid muhammad hussal shahwah the attending physicians uzor asked for paper and wrote on it i have too much dryness i can't talk and said some other words which could not be read cello at least i know because obviously loose loose motion or loose motion so so these were some of the things that obviously hazrat over here

people behave behave people right so that he had and and the thing is that in his uh right if it is in his uh final days you can see his stomach he had too many loose motions as you can see there oh blaming good looking fella there look at that people right so hariram smart

so anyway so this is the story so look this is the background of uh and i actually genuinely believe that he uh was that was uh was actually mentally unstable so i i think it's really more uh surprising so i don't find sometimes his things as surprising as i find that of his followers that so passionately follow him i'm thinking come on seriously you acting you really he believes that god used to say

i love you too behave [Laughter] can you imagine the angel that came to give the message and then it got to him and it's like it's like sure this this is [Laughter]

so anyway right so anyway so this is so my my message is that look these things are legitimate that he actually said these claims and you know the early cardianis were actually very extreme that they were declaring the rest of muslims kaffir so this is why then the rest of the muslims reacted harshly against them and i don't justify and i condem any persecution of them i condemn that

but i'm being honest look just playing the victim card all the time it's just nonsense right like you you get so for example i said to somebody because i took the mick out of because they were cursing me so i took the mick out of this so somebody said to me oh you support killing you support terrorism i thought [Laughter] like are you even listening to yourself [Laughter] like can you stop being such a drama queen that look yes i am against and i think most muslims are against any persecution of anybody

but the truth is that by saying that oh saying things like this is not part of islam is not an act of person that's just freedom of speech they have the freedom of speech to criticize islam and say these things that god sent him and god the prophet came to punjab and god said i love you to him and all these kind of things that's freedom of speech and we have the freedom of speech to criticize that and say well that's just a joke i mean why would god be busy saying i love you to some guy in punjabi and in english i mean you know that just doesn't add up so it doesn't mean that oh just because you're against

so some people would say oh but if you don't declare them muslim then that adds to the persecution no it doesn't because look christians are also persecuted which wrongly wrongly persecuted sometimes in muslim countries it doesn't mean now you have to say every christian is a muslim if you go on the kardiani websites i went on their website they very clearly themselves condemn homosexuals they say homosexuals are sinners that's what they say even though they say that look we're not against they say that we're not homophobic but they say homosexuals are sinners i would say calling homosexuals as sinners is then contributing to the

persecution of homosexuals so why don't you call homosexuals non-sinners and just you know call them blessed and call them like what so you know why is it you're only playing that game with us muslims and and and by the way they were trolled they troll other musl this is what i was just shocked about they were trolling me for god's sake they trolled me for days on end i couldn't believe it i was like shocked anyway i was shocked with the so that was my uh so anyway people i think we've gone on quite a bit i think the gym session is calling me uh but i thought i'd introduce you to our

guest today golam hariram you know so look obviously he had i think issues so you know anybody who has mental health may allah make things easy for them we obviously sympathize with these things but obviously but if they don't have mental health but they just have confidence like our smart hariram serial kisser what

that's the confidence i want in life honestly that's the confidence right people with that i'm going to leave you to it have an awesome time till next week any issues reach out to me inshallah take very good care of yourselves stay blessed inshallah salaam alaikum stay awesome