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What would jinn gain by possessing people, and what follows if they could?

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What would be the objective of possession? Ibn Taymiyya, jinn in any form, and a redundant religion

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If jinn could possess people or take any form, nothing in Islam could be trusted and no one would be responsible for their crimes; Mufti Abu Layth notes that only Muslims who believe in possession seem to be afflicted.

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Mufti Abu Layth says that before dealing with any issue one must ask for evidence from the Quran and Sunnah and ask what the objective would be. If jinn can possess people, he asks, for what purpose; people answer to cause mischief and harm. He notes that Suleiman comes from a Salafi background heavily influenced by Ibn Taymiyya, whom he calls a super-spreader of this idea: Ibn Taymiyya, he says, claimed to be a specialist in identifying letters written by jinn, which Salafis have published and boast about, and he and others held that jinn can take the form of anything, a microphone, a dog, a snake, a person, a screen or a book; Mufti adds that he likes some things of Ibn Taymiyya and his student [?] but suspects Ibn Taymiyya had mental health issues. He then argues that if the objective were mischief, billions of jinn could simply become false pages in the Quran; that terrorists such as ISIS could be excused as possessed; and that if possession is accepted everything in Islam becomes redundant, since one's shaykh, one's Quran teacher or the verses themselves could be demons in camouflage. He adds that if not praying invited possession the whole non-Muslim world would be attacked, yet jinn seem to attack only Muslims who believe in possession, never those who do not.

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Mufti Abu Layth says that if jinn could possess people or take any form, as Ibn Taymiyya held, nothing in Islam could be trusted and no one would be responsible for their crimes, and he notes that only Muslims who believe in possession seem to be afflicted by it.

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“if you accept jin possession everything in islam becomes redundant this screen that you're watching now”

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11:37

this topic of gin possession look people whenever you're about to deal with something you must ask for evidences from the quran sunnah and you must ask why there must be objectives okay so the first question is can we be possessed if we can right just asking what is the objective of jinns possessing us there must be an objective that they can possess this for what so people will say to cause mischief to cause harm

12:16

now they will tell you like ibn say mia who's a major proponent and all these people even omar salehman you have to remember his background was a selfie background or that kind of irani that whole which is very very influenced from that same kind of way of thinking now ibn tamiya is one of the key problems that you'll find that he's like you know etiologically you're going to find him as a major super he's a super spreader of this virus um hypnotamia because he really goes overboard with his whole jin thing and i did mention before look i do like some things of ibn mia and his student

12:55

ibrahim but in all honesty even at a mia probably had you know some kind of mental health issues now he is a huge super spreader of this thing about gin possession so in his lifetime he's this person he says oh i know he he kind of identifies certain letters that people receive and he says oh jinns write these letters and i'm a specialist on reading he claims to be a specialist on jin's handwriting and he claimed i'm not making this up you can selfies have actually published this stuff they boast about it but he used to claim to be a specialist on identifying

13:33

jin handwriting and so he he writes about this how he can pick up which letters have come from people and which have come from jinn to mislead people and and he writes and other people they believe that jinn can take the forms of anything so they can this microphone could be a gin a dog a cat a snake a person this screen could be a gin it could be a book it could be a table jin could be anything so now coming back to the objective if the objective of the gin is to create mischief

14:10

this is the objective then tell me something why doesn't the jinn just become a false page in the quran how would you know if if that's all the jin like how would you know why doesn't the jinn just become because if if that's all the because think about it when they if if all you had to do was read a page in the quran but remember there's billions of gin so if all of them became a false page in the quran or not all of them but millions of them

14:49

became a false page in the quran how is that so so difficult for them secondly let me let's take take it you know that exactly let's just take an example of terrorists you've got let's say isis for all you know let's say we muslims generally hate isis they could just be possessed it's not really their fault why is it their fault they're just possessed because a jinn think about it if you were a jinn and you wanted to harm islam why not just become you know brainwash not possess somebody

15:28

make him into a suicide bomber and then people will hate islam so really it's not that person's fault he's possessed isn't he so what's the what's the big deal every you know if you accept jin possession everything in islam becomes redundant this screen that you're watching now could just be a demon how do you know what your sheikh has taught you could just be a demon maybe the person who taught you the quran was a demon how do you know like how do you know anything anything could just be a demon like i said the whole pages in the quran verses in the quran could be just

16:07

demons uh camouflaging so it becomes ridiculous it becomes dumb now they're gonna say oh no but this is you see that this is the thing like oh no let's balance it what do you mean balance it it doesn't make any sense if you're a demon and the purpose is to cause mischief the other thing is why doesn't why you know according to sheikh suleiman if they don't pray that's basically the entire non-muslim world why is it in the west in the in the developed world jin ain't just attacking everyone you know what why do jin only attack muslims

16:45

[Laughter] that two muslims who believe in jin possession it's funny that muslims who don't believe in jin possessions never get attacked by jinn only muslims who believe in jin possessions you know that's the the dumbest thing this let's go to these verses that he mentioned now this is a right just bringing this here so as you can see just gonna fix this right you can see here this is

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Mufti Abu Layth. (2020, November 21). What would jinn gain by possessing people, and what follows if they could? [Video, segment 2020-11-21-S04, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/6apj1fumn24/s/4/
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Mufti Abu Layth. 2020. "What would jinn gain by possessing people, and what follows if they could?" Video, segment 2020-11-21-S04, auto-transcribed, may contain errors. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Recorded November 21, 2020. Accessed November 1, 2026. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/6apj1fumn24/s/4/
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  author = {Mufti Abu Layth},
  title = {{What would jinn gain by possessing people, and what follows if they could?}},
  year = {2020},
  month = {11},
  date = {2020-11-21},
  howpublished = {\url{https://muftiabulayth.org/r/6apj1fumn24/s/4/}},
  url = {https://muftiabulayth.org/r/6apj1fumn24/s/4/},
  organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive},
  urldate = {2026-11-01},
  note = {Segment 2020-11-21-S04, auto-transcribed, may contain errors}
}
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