Propaganda against Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan - Mufti Abu Layth

I think what's first and foremost the elephant in the room we have to discuss what's been going on this whole fiasco this whole this tsunami event that almost broke the internet right so there's two key things that are similar in nature but different massively different worlds apart but they kind of took place at a similar time and they're to do with a Muslim attitude in terms of responding the key

one I'd like to focus on but also will kind of like to draw our attention as well the similarity to the other parallel event as well the key one involves a an amazing inspirational figure a personality and a star a scholar of the Quran leaving the most leading authority in the english-speaking world on the Quran today as far as Jen as far as people out the in terms of on social media or available I don't know if people are hidden away and they may possess

infinite knowledge on certain topics but generally is austere nominally hon okay and this whole kind of propaganda and these attempts to take him down that have taken place this in in these past few days we had a similar kind of reaction to although of a different nature to a Muslim actress as well that I've been asked about called mahira Khan and she is an actress from from Pakistan and Bollywood and a similar in a similar

way they'd been a huge campaign to take her down because she was seen also smoking a cigarette with a bollywood actor wearing a kind of low I don't know like a dress some kind of like partially revealing dress so although these two in are worlds apart they happen more or less around the same kind of time I mean these kind of things and the reaction and attitude from the Muslims is very similar so this is why I'd like to comment on this those of you just tuning in if you can like and share the live feed in Charlotte get it out there let

other people benefit and post your questions below and I'll get to them first of all I want to say Zhi Shan is in the house our North Island Zhi Shan animal sermon right so I'd like to say that the way this incident has been regarding no Manav Sadhna mana Lacan has been kind of handled is utterly utterly despicable it is antithetical to the entire message of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam okay from the offset I want to clarify

that now I want to with that highlight how this this has led to the kind of disaster that it has okay and it is built upon three fallacies okay there is an equation here that people are using and it's built upon these but for many people that maybe not too aware I just to shed some to give a backdrop there's been very ambiguous allegations that

were released a few days ago regarding an amazing inspirational Imam aurora's you could say Skylab Ernest Todd he is a true scholar of the Quran and they were very ambiguous that were released but they were enough to completely destroy your an attempt to take down and destroy his personality his hard work and his legacy on the Quran so that much wasn't revealed initially was just said that that this person has been involved in

abuse now the this is what was dropped out there now knowing very well what comes to people's mind when these kind of words are heard around and thrown knowing very well I refused for a second to even believe in the naivety of these allegedly responsible people that were using this word and saying no we had no idea that people would assume the worst of course you would assume the worst so this is the backdrop to what happened

this was then later later fading - sorry followed up by trying to say what this incident is is apparently whether this Imam had you know a kind of flirtatious interaction with maybe some colleagues via text messages and things like this is what the actual incident that they would like that they were actually referring to and they had kind of given it this whole dramatic kind of veneer

and and Unleashed it on social media so this is built this whole thing is utterly I want you from the offset clarify this is utterly Haram I don't use I'm not somebody who uses the word Haram lightly and I don't use it casually and people who know me will know that I seldom refer to things as Haram unless they are categorical and clear-cut this is clear-cut Haram right what they have done here right I'm making that

very clear and this was nothing but in a clear attempt to take down somebody and character assassinate him based on based on on these kind of these these broad claims of protecting vulnerable people so let's let's get into what the fallacy is built upon it's built upon three main this equation has three elements to it the first element that this was built upon and the same thing could be said in a different way that I was asked about this this actress

who in the same kind of time frame faced the the the tyranny of abuse from Muslims over you know being with seen in public or whatever with this bollywood actor and smoking a cigarette wearing a kind of partially revealing dress so this is but the the reaction addresses the same thing the fallacy the first fallacy and those of you just tuning in if you can like and share the live feed please get it out there and if you can post your comments below and I'll get to them the first thing is that this is built upon

the first what goes into this formula this equation that these people were using and unfortunately the public many of the public were involved and that's obviously disappointing as it is for Muslims but some people who claim to be in also in leadership positions had kind of jumped on this bandwagon and it's built upon these three things the first is an amiable Marouf or national moon car that the right to command the good and forbid the evil this is the first

part the first element to this equation that these people were using they were using a tripartite kind of equation to justify this the first was that immoral Maru for national moon car that we have a god-given duty to forbid Haram wherever we see it right this equation so I'm just gonna explain this and I'll come back to it the second thing that they used was they said that people in leadership positions or responsible

positions are more deserving of greater scrutiny than regular people this was the second element to this kind of formula that they used the third was that any person in irresponsible position engaging in any self-interest act with another person of their own will must always be deemed abuse because the person is in a position of power this

was the equation that they used an abuse is obviously wrong so these are the equation that these three elements and it's important to recognize that they first thought that we are doing a mobile model for Nana monkey which God has commanded us to do secondly people in leadership roles are more according to God they should be more deserving of accountability than regular people 3 any people in positions or state of status

if they ever engage with the opposite gender for a personal interest they that must be deemed abuse because they are in a position of status so this was their kind of formula now I want to begin from the right from the beginning by highlighting animus Island those people just tuning in I feel if you'd like and share the live feed in Charlotte so we can maximize the benefit and post your questions below and I'll get to them Imam Hassan animus Island so this thing really is very simple very

simple you begin by asking has a crime being perpetrated has a crime being perpetrated because you're using the word abuse which which is a criminal offense to abuse somebody is a criminal offense so you these words are being used like abuse has a crime being perpetrated if it has then you must report this to the authorities we do not seek vigilante justice vigilante justice is haram for a valid reason in Islam it is not okay for people to get together and say we will

do vigilante justice No report it to the police report it to the authorities it is mandatory okay that you do that so the response to that is well because it this is from to make from the beginning it's very clear if it's a crime it must be reporting if it's not a crime and it's a haram act then it is to Allah alone who can judge such an act now let's come to the tripartite kind of formula they say our and I've seen this that people said

what's shocking is that normally the same on a man these same sorry these kind of preachers who condemn and I feel rightly so condemned the Haram police that we see and certain now are people who go around you know the field they have the right to be that the Taliban self-proclaimed Taliban and these same preachers condemn them normally and I feel rightly so on this occasion themselves feel it's ok so

they people have said we have the right to come on the good and forbid the evil first of all no you do not know you do not write anybody telling you that is misleading you and misusing the Sharia they are misusing the words of the messenger of allah muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam that in itself is an abuse of religion this this ruling comes under in the Sharia they call a camel hiss per the rulings of accountability they are not for any and all they are not for anybody to just to take upon

themselves they are only four people in legit authority to take to task they are not for you and me to just go around and command the good and forbid the evil nobody has said that secondly the scholars right from the cellar have highlighted that you cannot do his BA this is called his MA you cannot do his bar unless you are actually a scholar of who is well aware of what is Haram what is halal and the IFTA laughs that goes with it because I might be condemning something which according to you is

haram and according to many Allah my Allah so I have to be familiar with the a camel mortal of fear and they say you can only command somebody tell somebody off when it is absolutely agreed upon a clear clear if somebody was committing murder that is clear that is not it's a genocide the Rohingya genocide going on these things are clear brutality disagreed and other kind of fear little eerie theory by codes will come to you

cannot tell somebody if somebody asked in my Malek can I tell somebody off for something he said you may advise him about something he said no but can I argue with him to prove it he said laughs no you cannot if my malik said you may simply if you knew something he can simply state that in Islam this is what it is and then he said you move on he said you don't even like Jarrell I know it doesn't even dispute over it this is Imam Malik the legend of Medina

okay to start off with so this I can tell people off because you know this is haram in Islam no no you cannot you're not even a skull most of these people are not even detailed scholars of Islam most of them are not even well-versed on the esta laughs the 54 or the Oh su Lee through I had people engaged with me saying to me online I've had and I'm not trying to judge here but I'm being very clear so there's women saying I'd a woman say online well I may not be

so learned in Islam but even I know this is Haram and and I have a right to tell him off she had an animal cell and animal silent - a ruffed right so now so some person some woman was or saying this that I I may not be so learning in this lumber and I said look with all due respect let's just begin with the fact that most of these people that you're saying these scholars or whoever you want to rely on unanimously amongst themselves agree that for a woman not to wear the head

covering is Haram you yourself are on social media with no Hitcher according to all of them that's Haram according and I'm not look I I may disagree with some of these scholars but this isn't me this is these very same people you don't have a problem with that you're on social media according to most of these people that's Haram you don't have a problem with that and I'm not saying I and I feel rightly so it's your business it's for nobody to tell you off oh but somebody else is committing a Haram ah I have the right to tell them off no you

do not know you do most of these people they have these people have never most of these I've never read the entire Quran throughout their lives with with with understanding not even the entire Quran they haven't even read most of them haven't even committed a single Jews to memory most of them will never be able to even read one entire hadith with the chain from memory and explain what it is they've got no idea of Basel basic legal theory within Islam will fit the disagreements they do not know how the scholars have disagreed they do not

even understand most of these people the Mikasa the Sharia they do not understand the the message in the sealer of the prophet muhammad salallahu alaihe wasalam they do not understand the kawaii a sharia these people have taken to his bath how how have these people become the haram police who has authorized them people have been bullying online they've been bullying since when did bullying become okay let's take a look at the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam when he saw something haram going on with

people he would go to the masjid and he would say ma ba Lu affirming yeah Oh Munna because I work as a mob a loophole mean yes I look at the vachetta maharaja linea yeah I look at all he would say what is it with people that they do this and this and this why is it with a man that he has said this did he ever dress them name and shame them this is a 21st century Western tabloid tabloid ISM culture that you are exploiting that you are building

your faith upon this is nothing nothing from the teachings of Islam so lets us clarify this this part first the first part of the tripartite equation that they feel they have the right to command the good and forbid the evil no you do not you have no right to speak on behalf of God no right be ashamed of yourself you know the Haram actions that you perpetrate everybody Kulu bani adam' ha ha all of the children of adam are people who

perpetrate sins this is this is inevitable here claiming to be an angel or as pure as the driven snow you are not as pure as the driven snow right do not that's the first thing secondly these people said well people of leadership must be held to greater accountability says who says who where did you I know yes this is a principle of modern 21st century Western ethics and look I have I'm somebody who speaks about trajectory hermeneutics I speak about ethics

changing with time but yet these very same people reject this this this concept of modern ethics in most things when these are the same people who generally will support they won't they won't advocate they say we want to speak about modern ethics there is a clear ruling in Islam that most people have taken that the the compensation blood money for accidental death for a woman is half of that of a man I haven't seen till date any of these people ever decry that and say it's wrong I've said it's

wrong where have they been there's been miss attributions to the messenger of allah that he married a six or a seven year old child where have they been to defend the inner at the honor of the messenger of allah salallahu alaihe salam they endorsed these pathetic ruling these kind of pathetic reports which insult the messenger of allah where have they been where are the ethics of the twenty they endorse under certain circumstances stoning people to death in the 21st century and oh they don't want to debate any of this they don't want to discuss

it they say oh oh but cooperation contractual ethics ah god forbid god forbid that should somebody have a relationship with a colleague corporation ethics the corporation culture is built on capitalism and I'm not here to diss capitalism right now but I'm just being honest you will know it these rules that work whether you should people should be on time they to do with productivity because when you're on time you make more production so people make more money when people are

having relationships with coworkers or things like this it impacts productivity these are the these are by law by rules within companies very massively around the world so and I want to come back to this thing of people being in leadership a MOOC more liable what does the hadith of The Messenger of Allah say the hadith of the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he said after you as I will hate artists Allah to him and in another rewire after ah to him this has been brought forward by Monta Howie Biden has amis been brought forward by in the most in a booth and other books that the prophet sallallahu

alayhi wa sallam said after you forgive be more forgiving Lita will hate for people of responsible positions little a team when they make their mistakes that's what the messenger of allah - but oh don't worry about that what does corporation 21st century corporation ethics say and look I've got no problem having a discourse on trajectory hermeneutics and ethics evolving but why just this one principle the bigger issues nobody's addressed them then this thing

and this is the most important one that if a person is in a position of a status this must be deemed abuse no it is not abuse it is not abuse women I'm sorry but I find it insulting I find it insulting that these people think that women when they around position people of status they become mentally handicapped that is an insult to women women don't become mentally handicapped when they around people of status that like oh I've got no idea what to do I

can't oh you're just I'm drugged all of a sudden no they're not you know they know very well people know what they doing there is a clear distinction between abuse of power so for example as it happens unfortunately and may Allah make grant ease and justice to the victims of such abuse as it happened for many parts of the third world unfortunately commonly as and maybe I'm not saying it doesn't happen in the developed world but not as much in the third world people who be like so for

example a boss has got a worker he will come in call her along make her do sexual acts on him is if she wants to keep her job if she doesn't then you're fired that that is clear abuse that is abuse that needs to be condemned that is abuse saying oh hey I work with somebody and you know you might have flirted or you might have or they've shown an interest in you you've shown an interest in them this varies between corporations varies between countries let's listen

this is just corporation ethics let's take let's let's go back let's go back to our to Islam let's take a look at our example those of you just tuning in animal silent people if you share the live feed get it out they let other people benefit post any questions you have and I'll get to them right let's go back to our own theme and look at examples we begin with the blessed example of a moment Minnie Khadijah Roddy love on her she she was she I mean the messenger of a lost soul Allah I

leave Salim worked for her she proposed to him and married him that was a blessed Union one of the most amazing unions in Islam there's nothing wrong with that right you look right through the examples the Companions people say oh somebody was oh my god somebody's looking for for marriage look people naturally it's cool in in in psychology you call this the propinquity effect right so when people are working closely with people they share naturally they end up commonly many people end up in relationships with people they often

share workspace with that is that that's in social studies it's just thing it just happens because UN and I'm not even saying that that has happened but that's what we're discussing here look at and people say oh but you're using your position because people they desire you yeah but people are naturally drawn to power they drawn to status that's an act that's like saying men are drawn to beauty women manipulating men because they're beautiful they say is that what it is is in an abuse of of nature of power nobody's it is that's just the way nature works

many women even men they drawn to power they're grown to status they find it incredibly a has an amazing appeal to it an attraction to it there's nothing wrong in that per se yes in a company you may have certain rules and that's for productivity so let's come back to the examples look at the messenger of allah salons and his grandson we're in Muharram and there's a lot of discussion going on about the grunts and grandsons although that's about who's saying but look at hassan Rohde allah on a blessing a blessed amazing personality within islam right

the blessed from the the masters and all of paradise say you do' Shabab be a lil Jenna right Robby Allah on who he was somebody who would constantly marry and divorce women marry and devorah married over a thousand women divorced and married because his own father of the law on top people awful don't look I know he's this grandson of the Prophet I know is incredibly good-looking you guys look he he proposes in the everybody just keeps accepting don't do it because he's gonna you know he keeps divorcing

and moving on and he married over a thousand women they used to say you just constantly marry women and then he would be post them how people live they put and and people were happy with that they were okay with that some cultures that's absolutely fine even today cultures like Mauritania the women actually want they see a woman that stuck with one husband for years they see her as a bit of a socially as a bit of a loose this this concept what I'm trying to say it varies Islam just leaves people to their own relationships it doesn't judge me doesn't tell people how to have a relationship

no here I'd be shot by a great companion had anything between three hundred to a thousand wives in his time what are these people we can't take from now caught you take from the grandson of the Messenger of Allah can you take from elated Neshoba can you take from these people anymore who told you you can't take from them what because like what they haven't done anything wrong it was with consent so stop becoming you know judge jury and executioner over these matters look at great scholars right throughout you know there's an amazing even a husband in his

book of love tokoha mama the dovetail tail of the dog he speaks about all these speaks about his own sexual interests in women and he speaks about this he's an amazing scholar on hadith and thick do we not take from him now dude this this thing there's this an amazing there's an interesting story about even a Hodja if Nigel as Palani who was an amazing amazing legend or Dara scholar his commentary on sahih al-bukhari is a debt to this Ummah thoughtful body it is the

ultimate everybody that came after is dependent upon it even a jealous Kalani famous incident about him that when he really used to like this woman that was she was a slave of his wife and you've really you had this this crush on her this mad crush and so he gets his wife to sell her so like get rid of her and he actually send somebody to go get her and then he positions her gift sets up a house for her on the other part in the others on

the other side of town where he's living so he's got his wife here and is in his kids and and and he only in this family only had daughters and he lives with her and she's his like second wife he marries her and she has a child and like a year later and and and people in the marketplace are talking about this one day so if a Hodgins first wife is in the marketplace and somebody congratulate her and says all congratulations on even the Hodgins son that was born and she says son we don't have a son we've got two daughters and he says they say oh no not with you with

the other wife so they say oh she knows other wife so she turns up when she finds out oh it's you it's you who used to work for me you've now gone and married is even a hogr abusive of power is he can we not take from even a [ __ ] should we warn the Ummah against hypnagogia what is wrong with you people like what is this this this attitude it is shocking it is absolutely shocking that's why I genuinely honestly so so

there and there are countless examples like this so when people use words like abuse they are dangerous words because they imply the real abuse not just oh you know you may have broken some rules of corporation that's not what people understand it's like if I said to you so-and-so you you know he's his own drugs if he said what's wrong with him I said well he uses drugs and he said no way and I said yeah and then I said oh no by that I mean he takes paracetamol and ibuprofen when he does when he

really shouldn't he takes too much ibuprofen that's what I meant and it's unhealthy I mean what what did I lie are they not drugs yeah but that's not what people understand roof has a usage when you use words they carry connotations they carry understandings when people say you've abused buddy what is understood is that you have molested over this big molestation there's been rape there's been these are the understandings that people have you throw this around somebody dedicates 20

years of his life to produce the most unparalleled explanation of the Quran in English he reignites a love for the Book of Allah in the hearts of thousands sorry hundreds of thousands if not millions because he has you know millions of followers he once again makes the Quran relevant for people the Quran I'd lost relevance in the english-speaking world who the scholars have ignored the Quran which scholars do you know that actually made the Quran

relevant that taught the Quran they may be irrelevant they its background music the Quran is not even secondary tertiary kind of like sources within Islam it's like oh yeah here's my ruling now I'll just confirm it with this confirmation bias nobody's interested in oh he dedicated his life and made it we've reconnected people and they took him down within seconds within seconds and it was a coordinated effort honestly

this is what and I am somebody I am somebody who can be slightly detached from emotions I think but I was hurt watching this honestly I was hurt I thought you know wow and what lie I am NOT wrong when I say that they were just ulterior motives that played nothing but power structures power play a grab for power hate and envy money was behind

this people that were supporting and pushing certain people to come out it was because they you know they they they heavily fund certain thing it's disgusting what was behind the scenes and yet they threw him absolute act of Judas an act of Judas was perpetrated and do you know the amount of things that the amount of means I've seen insulting swearing I start using like actual swear words soup photoshopping his photo superimposing

his photograph on pornographic sites doing things like this I mean did well like the people who began this are responsible for them and they you know what their excuses well I never did it this is what Judas said about Jesus well I never crucified him the Roman scheme you know I just I just yeah you know I just pointed him out and listen but it's not me that stuck him up on the cross nothing but a Judas that they've done it's despicable from Islamic standards and they justified that we are social justice worries and you know what the

irony is a lot of these people do this so they can it's the same thing like oh we fight for women's rights and we're trying to protect women vulnerable women in ER in a way to gain fair is our you know I can ask are you not doing the same thing just trying to impress so look people everything here and and the reason why this was important is to show how Dane what kind of a dangerous world we live in we live in times where people they it's so this this new modern tabloid culture of taking people down

and some people have said that look over you bring your evidence no there's no evidence to bring we are not a court this is not court right none of you are have jurisdiction there is no evidence to bring ok I get the fact that some people in relationships sometimes are upset you know relationships when they don't work out one of the two couple is always upset but this oh wise me you know this whole using the misuse the abuse of the word abuse that has been used under the banner of Islam that

we are doing God's work to lash out to malign to insult to swear to destroy a man's legacy who has only stood up who has really given meaning to the Koran in the English language and look he could his personal life is his Percy has a right to a personal life I have a right you have a right to a personal life you know if if my life got examined hahaha my life got examined I mean if you like think about it my sense of humor alone

would have me destroyed and I and I have been a victim of this in the past on several occasions whenever people hate on me they just drag stuff that they want to do this this is this is how it works and people just jump along and many people jump along for the entertainment I get that you know they they want to be entertained but look at the day listen people wallahi people use these very same people the future generations will seek answers when it comes to the Quran who will they go to you're not gonna go to

these regular kind of these they haven't got the answers let's be honest you're taking down of you're trying to take down a person whose shoes you cannot fill let's be I could under I could even I mean I would disagree but at least if you were taking somebody down and you could fill his his is you could fill his place but you can't and I tell you this from from a first-hand perspective I have had people malign me in the past insult me verbally abuse me right spread

propaganda about me in years to come in the years that followed they almost lost their faith because they saw that the faith clashed with reason they saw that these arguments were compelling of atheists and then who was it that they turn back to they came to me to answer their questions why not go now to those kind of hardline people that you were supporting before and and doing all that because they don't give you the answers and this isn't I'm just giving you and I'm just saying this is a personal example but it's the same thing tomorrow

your own generation will want the Koran to be relevant who will you go to so let's just take a step back I want to conclude this matter with one hadith of The Messenger of Allah right the messenger of allah saw Allison and I say these people because genuinely honestly as somebody who can be very detached from emotions I have been hurt to watch this I have known the staff in some personal capacity and I can

genuinely tell you you see about myself I would never say I'm a pious person or a good person or but he genuinely is from one of the good guys like the guy is a decent guy and to kind of bring our nonsense which first of all isn't even I mean it's not even blameworthy it's not even it's definitely not abuse and we can't even verify whether it's his and we're not even in an authority to verify it but it's none of our business but to kind of try to ashame him a shame him right but by trying to say look at these these flirts and things like this

right look at the look at this look at this that I tell you that the the prophets nephew was sitting with him for the Lipner a bus on the camel in Sahih Muslim and he's looking at the woman that comes to the Profi and he says inside Muslims some masa add another he looked at it like this and he looked at it like that and she and he found her beautiful and he kept staring at her and the messenger of allah moved his face and and and he looks back and he stares at her and he says the Mossad another he's going like this sent that and The

Messenger of Allah just moves his face and he says to the Prophet he says the autosum what did I do something wrong and the Prophet said no I just did that out of care to protect you from from something that is the etiquette of the messenger of allah these people have taken the the kind of honour of people so lightly i tell you that i want to conclude on a hadith how would you feel

if somebody destroyed the kaaba how would you feel tell me if today there was an attack let's say a bomb went off people weren't killed let's say people weren't killed a bomb went off but the kaaba was destroyed let's just envisage that for a moment right let's envisage that people ain't hurt but the kaaba is destroyed blown to smithereens it's absolutely wrong would you not be totally inferior would would it not would your blood not boil

would it not harm you would it not hurt you would you not be offended you would because this is meant to Athena Shire Allah and Allah says for me your atom sure I don't laughing now I'm in Tukwila loop those of you who who glorify his his symbols on earth this is from the taqwa in your hearts get the messenger of allah said that if you destroyed this Kappa and built and destroyed and then built and destroyed and then built and then destroyed it

he said wallahi that is not as great as harming the honor of a Muslim Arab or Muslim that is not as great as harming the honor of a Muslim you know llahi visa this is why I say you know this suppose there's a poem who what of kuch bhi nahi sahib buzzer ah ha maan to die you know that this is the that it's not much that is actually happening it's just that the heart has been hurt that the kind of impunity that these people did this with

and they continue to do in the name of God they use God as an excuse the tyranny that has been unleashed in the name of God it is this is what makes you a poor religion it makes you hate religion and this is the problem this is why The Messenger of Allah always warned people about this because it makes drives people away from religion anyway people goddamn God let's take some of your questions you know it's just my

advice is look recognize that bullying is haram cyberbullying is haram maligning people's character is haram destroying the honor of other muslims is haram stay away from all of this do not be a part of this I tell you you will regret that in time to come in this life or in the era but that will be something that you will regret so stay away from all of that do not try to justify Islamically this is got very little to do with Islam right that's enough now on

and the same applied with a lot of what was going on with that actress the same thing Allah has not put us here as judge jury and executioner the rule is always very simple if it is if it is a crime the authorities if it is Haram then not you the real God will do