Did Jesus really speak as a baby in the cradle?

is and you know and the whole point is that this is in the Quran it's stating that obviously if it was an obscenity then it won't be stated in the Quran and it wouldn't be happening in front of prophets but the point is that this whole story the reason I mentioned this story is just to kind of highlight that we when we approach the Quran we have different ways we can either take things as mythology as kind of like myths that paranormal events or we can zoom out and

take a holistic picture and I would advise that we do take a holistic picture another good example that is given often is oh sorry another story that often comes up is Jesus in the cradle now that when America comes to the people bringing Jesus with her this is the verse of the Quran and many people assume that at this point Jesus is a little baby they're assuming this they assume that the people are accusing her of adultery although in the Quran it doesn't mention

any way that her people ever accused Mary of adultery that doesn't say later people did like hundreds of years later they did but in Mary's time when she arrives with Jesus they didn't now the question is when CH Mary alaihe salam arrives with jesus how old is jesus now one good thing would you see if we're just zooming in we can just read it as a story like oh and and it doesn't state but it implies that maybe he's a baby is just saying she brought him to carries what does that mean Tamela who you know like bring that that mean you can mean carry on

like horseback or on a donkey or on something it can like in the quranic comes that when the people come to you to the prophet leta mila home so that you can carry them it doesn't mean that's a verse of the quran it doesn't mean that the profit would carry these people it meant that you take them on the camels so it can mean that or it can mean physically carrying now many Muslims have gone with the fact that this here was Jesus as a baby but what they didn't do is look at the Christian sources because look Jesus is an incredible figure of the past to other communities whose also speak about

him now about Jesus ELISA LOM we know that when Jesus is born he doesn't I mean I know they take him to Jerusalem for the quick within the 40 days the ritual but then Jesus according to certain narrations he's taken to Egypt because of King Herod Herod the Great he was kind of butchering all babies under a baby boys under a certain age so they take Jesus away to Egypt and then he returns after a few years the Bible does the Bible speak of Jesus coming to

Jerusalem now most likely Jesus would have once he returned to - to - to Judea the Middle East he would have visited Jerusalem often especially since it was a pilgrimage to do so at least three times in a year that Passover and so on the all Jewish males once they were of a certain age would visit now the interesting thing is the Gospel of Luke actually does have a narration of when Jesus is around 12 years old what's interesting is that he is brought to

Jerusalem and then when Mary is she has brought him she in the Gospel of Luke when she is heading back they realized in the journey just into the journey that Jesus is missing so she searches for Jesus she comes back and searches for three days it says and eventually Mary is incredibly stressed out with not being able to find Jesus as you can imagine her baby I mean she's lost him she eventually finds him in the temple she finds him in the temple of jerusalem

debating the elders you see now that's really interesting it's fascinating because you see in the verse of the Quran they when Mary approaches these people they say to her what have you brought you know your father was a decent man your mother was a decent man what kind of child is this which many Muslims wrongly assumed or speaking about adultery now once again I do this why I do like this tafseer of Maulana Abdul Karim Allah sorry he highlights

this very same point he highlights that this was actually Jesus as stated in the Gospel of Luke he had been there for a few days and he had been trying to debate some of these elders in their understanding and naturally they were annoyed they didn't like I mean they didn't even like grown men debating them let alone a bloody child to them thinking that their attitude was this just a bloody child this is why should we listen to you they wouldn't listen to men so when she says that look you know

like whoa don't blame me like speak to him like what has he said and they say you know kafir neukölln woman cannot feel mad disappear how can we speak was just in a cradle he was in a cradle just a little boy you want us to speak to a little boy now we are the high priests of the Temple of Jerusalem to me that interpretation fits with the reality fits with you see when we zoom out it still fits the problem with the other one is we can read it and then Jesus said to them look in me Abdullah I am

the servant of God you know that he has blessed me he has made me kind to my mother he has made me Harambee wily dirty now the thing is this question that why is well why root to my mother you know why am I here why why stress this point because marry most likely would have been a bit upset as well because one he was missing for three days according to the Gospel of Luke and so she would have been incredibly terrified I mean she would've been really relieved to have found Jesus at least and I'm but she would have been very terrified as well and and also a

bit upset that what we you know why did you disappear and him responding in this way and then saying that Allah has told me poor too that we should pray and to give in arms to give charity and you see this this message once again telling it to the high priests who were all about just making money you know because the high priests were making they were rinsing the people they weren't really about giving charity and stuff so to me this narrative makes a lot more sense rather than saying oh look he was a child he spoke to them he did this

because when we zoom out we know that look the Jews generally did not believe in Jesus from a child and they don't even believe in him when he was a grown up now if they had seen a speaking baby surely that would have affected some of the Jewish people surely they would have thought this is a sign they would have believed surely they would have done something I mean babies don't speak like that not like adults so to me that doesn't add up then because we know they didn't accept Jesus we also know Mary was never accused of adultery in her lifetime because if she was she would have been killed

there was no way on earth they would have ever let Mary go because she and her being a woman was even more defenseless they would have just killed her the Jews I mean they you know they attempted to kill Jesus and you know in in their version they killed him in their version and the point is they had that power so to think that oh along comes a woman and they think this woman and then and Miri wasn't from some prestigious family with all these kind of Defense she's very defenseless if they thought she'd commit adultery they would have just stoned her to death and killed her but that doesn't happen in reality so

when we zoom out it doesn't add up it's too it's too convenient this story you know it doesn't add up when you step back you know that hmm neither did was there any miracles neither were there any accounts of this kind of stuff and not knowing what the general Christians who who transmitted in their version of authenticity I know that there's questions with the authenticity but well that's my point so I hope this gives shed some light people on why and how I believe we should engage with narratives in the Quran that when we step back it should

still fit it shouldn't be something that only when we're so sumed in it doesn't matter you know oh yeah this flying people Solomon is flying on a magic carpet this is what a lot of people believe they believe that Solomon had like a magic carpet and or some people believe he had a cloud and he's just fly on this cloud and used to go around the world on a cloud or on a magic carpet and this kind of stuff and you know all Jesus speaking as a baby you're doing these but when you zoom out none of these things add up so the other narratives all add up and they are in out of seer the problem is that many

people don't push them why because they themselves they too caught up in this kind of mythological perspective that they've had since they were children and they're not created a not people of critical reasoning say this is the problem you know we don't have we lack scholars who have who have critical reasoning and we don't have that so cool