Recordings › Monday Nights with Mufti #179 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth · 24 Aug 2020 › Segment 7 of 40
Were the hadith about the black flags against the Abbasids?
hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis hadees ahaadith shari'ah shariat sharee'ah muftis talaaq triple talaq talak niyyah niyah niyat niyya niyyatWere the black-flag hadith anti-Abbasid? More likely Abbasid propaganda
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This segment25:06 to 26:56 · 1 min 50 sGeneral teaching
The answer in brief
machinesummary, machine-writtenMufti Abu Layth doubts the black-flag hadith were anti-Abbasid; if anything, he says, they were part of Abbasid propaganda.
In more detail
A superchat, partly lost in the captions, asks whether the hadith [of the black flags] are in general against the Abbasids. Mufti Abu Layth says he is not so sure they are, since the hadith say the Mahdi's army will come with black flags, and if anything they were part and parcel of Abbasid propaganda, because Khurasan is where Abu Muslim and the great Abbasid revolution began. He adds that such men were often later betrayed and killed by their own leaders for being too talented, and jokes that being too talented is dangerous.
Question as read aloud · questioner not identifiedAre the [black flag] hadith in general [against the Abbasids]?
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Position stated
Mufti Abu Layth says the hadith that the Mahdi's army will come with black flags were, if anything, part and parcel of Abbasid propaganda rather than directed against the Abbasids.
“the mahdi's army will be coming with the black flags so i don't think they would have served auntie uh if anything they were part and parcel of the abbasid propaganda”
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you see saying that but when he did the civil divorce he had the intention of talaq and thereby it triggers would now be dependent contingent to his upon his declaration that he did that and then there's other problems you see because husbands talks this is another thing that sometimes people don't know they are that means they can revoke them and cancel them and they can do that without telling the other party so this is why it is always better to get objective talks like that sharia councils give because
they give what are in which are irrevocable you can they cannot be cancelled right so moving on um some e you're doing it you're doing it right with the super chat are the ah hadith right are the ah hadith in general
you see i'm not so sure that they're against the absence because the hadith actually mentioned that the mahdi's army i'm pretty sure they mentioned the mahdi's army will be coming with the black flags so i don't think they would have served auntie uh if anything they were part and parcel of the abbasid propaganda because horace is where um abu muslim and all you know the great abbasi revolution begins
in and he emerges abu muslim and these other people they they emerge from there um that and then later on often is the story by the way often often often that they are later betrayed by their own by their own leaders and killed off because they seen as too talented [Laughter] this is like you know when they say you're too qualified for the job so what they would do in the past is they would just kill them off afterwards
uh because they're too too this one too talented so this uh this is a danger as well sometimes being too talented is dangerous [Laughter] right let's go to the next question some people write okay now abdul r has super chatted you do and abdullah much love right so um mufti can you speak about soul mates and
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Mufti Abu Layth. (2020, August 24). Were the hadith about the black flags against the Abbasids? [Video, segment 2020-08-24-S07, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/s/7/
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@misc{abulayth-2020-08-24-S07, author = {Mufti Abu Layth}, title = {{Were the hadith about the black flags against the Abbasids?}}, year = {2020}, month = {8}, date = {2020-08-24}, howpublished = {\url{https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/s/7/}}, url = {https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/s/7/}, organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive}, urldate = {2026-11-01}, note = {Segment 2020-08-24-S07, auto-transcribed, may contain errors} }
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