What verses do Muslims use to argue Jesus had a natural birth with a father?

gone with with those two prophets before them they said well the same thing was said to them same thing was said to Mary everybody accepts Mary had a husband at the time Joseph the difference was was that birth a virgin birth Muslims do not believe verge she remained a virgin throughout her life nobody says these not Muslims anyway and even many Christians beyond the Catholics don't say that either so and here's another verse now this is an interesting one you see chef yes sir are you saying no we must only go with literal reading of the Quran in surah tota hareem in verse

verse 12 you had the verse about Mary whoa Mary my Boneta in Ramallah t Aston at for jaha and Mary who had been chaste and safe guarded her private parts and asana by the way is a verb that is used often in Arabic to do with safeguarded through marriage so hence they say when somebody is in trouble for adultery were they my son as Allah says in the Quran well ma sana 2 min an Nisa which is the beginning of the fifth juice is referring to those women who are married

who are chaste through marriage okay Imran Allah ty0 Mary my Boneta immorality a sonnet for John - ah now female Ruina you see this verse reads and maryam the daughter of Imran who safeguarded her genitals her private parts we breathed into the into it he says fauna naffy he into her private parts may Rowena of our spirit now that's in surah tutoring now as far

as I'm aware no Muslim would generally believe that to be literal I mean I don't know maybe share here sort of God he does believe it to be literal but generally Muslims don't believe God actually went and breathed into Mary's private parts with his spirit into that no but no Muslim that I'm aware of generally believes that to be literal so yet yet you're saying that any other verse must always take every literal implication so this is my this is my point

now this is the verse that you're referring to that in surah Maryam and there's another one as well but this one is in a bit more detail what Scofield kitabi Maryam and remember Maryam when she set off to a place for Taha that mean dunya major Byrne and then Allah says for our Salina alayha rohana Fatima Salalah hey Bashar and so we and we sent our spirit and this once again they say is the spirit here is the Holy Spirit being gibreel but Allah didn't say that but they this is the general understanding and he appeared as a strong man to her

as sorry as a fully-developed man call it in the house of a Romani minka in cantata the yeah she said I seek refuge in Allah from you caller in a manner of solo rock Becky I am the messenger of your Lord Lee AHA Bielecki Holloman zakiya so I may give to you a whole am a young boy now by the way most Muslims don't accept that either literally that he gave the child to to marry nobody Muslim I don't know any Muslim that accepts that literally so ahlet's I know you're cool alia gulaman

well am iam sesame Bashar well I'm aku buffer year she says that no man has touched me I'm not a woman of bad character Olek how can I have a child Carla can I make a call our bookie who I Leah hanging that such your Lord has said he and it is easy for him Wally Naja allahu and so that we may make him I attend Lena see where I'm at a mineral can I'm Nadia and then it mentions she became pregnant and went to a distant land and so on no we're here does it say that it was a virgin conception I'm just

saying you can still believe that I do accept it implies that just as the table verse implies is that the table was sent down yet several people didn't accept that it was sent down because he didn't clearly say so so a lot could have clearly said yes and Jesus didn't have a dad but a lot doesn't say that once in the Quran he does not say that so yes you can take this verse and say you know I I take from this that it she it was a virgin birth but to say people anybody who disagreed with that has left the Dino has become a deviant and gone against

this and that how that goes and and let me tell you and those people who argued against that so for example those like Maulana Abdul Karim ls3 his teacher maulana in ayatollah gujarati it was vizier Abadi and Allah mataman an Ahmadi and all these scholars that they have so for example they use this verse in the Quran which is in surah al-anam well I speaking about the prophets and in surah 80 verse 85 he says was that career yeah yeah Issa well yes I couldn't Minnesota Haines and all of these prophets were from the pious

people Zachariah yeah here ISA and Ilyas they were all pious what is my ill well yes sir were eunice were lute and all of these were : football now al al-amin and we favored all of these women ABBA him and their fathers we favored was the reality him of1 him and they brothers and offspring this verse would include jesus in de because it says it mentions these eight prophets and he says and their fathers now you could say yeah but that was just lit that was just usage language but it didn't include him crew

but it does seem to incline definitely weighs in on the side that he had a father weighs in on that side another verse that those people used is in surah 2 an arm and they using the quran d it's not that they making this stuff up allah says in surah al-anam and this is a very powerful verse that they use actual Allah when refuting people says buddy Osama wotty one Allah created the heavens and the earth Analia kun allahu willard how can god have a child listen to this listen to these people

I'm knockin allahu Welland how can God have a child well I'm talkin level sahiba and he did not have a wife or a companion you see because Allah is showing them the reasoning that how can God have a child and he didn't have a wife now if you're gonna say yeah but you could just have a miracle child like he did in the other verse so that means God's reasoning here that God has given is silly like God is arguing against them in unless the only reason that would make sense is if a

reason and the laws of nature make sense why else does this make sense why is God saying to them buddy or Sumati well on the allah the creator of the heavens and the earth Ania cool Allahu Allah how can he have a wallet well I'm talkin lava sahiba and he did not have a female companion because that's how babies are born so right so this shows this is a clear verse why otherwise this reasoning is to say the Lord you say well that's easy God doesn't need to God could just make a

child without having a female so then that's an argument like that's an argument against God for using that as an argument the only way that verse can make sense is if all births follow a natural law of order or natural order of law sorry so now the so these are the arguments used by these people who argued for a natural birth and like I said look it's entirely up to people I'm not saying you need to believe this I'm not saying you need to believe that but to declare deviant and to declare people like Oh

they've lost the plot they they no longer main three Muslims they no longer this they no longer that because they have this reading of the Quran when the Quran itself doesn't actually say that that's a huge stretch so I mean these are some words then he whoa the time right then