Farabri's incomplete copy, the differing student copies and the manuscript patchwork

as well he writes the same thing the same thing ibn hajj writes in his commentary on but i quoted al-khatib because he's the earliest out of them therefore perhaps in some ways more authoritative but they all write the same thing that so this one not nice you know because i saw some people trying to say well because people transmit from him therefore automatically that's reliable [Music] this one not nice my friend this one this one dubious you know this one dubious circumstances so the second point right

ibn hajjar writes in his fatal body this is page six of them says from the student of he goes with the chain he says his name was he says [Music]

[Music] and he says i saw many things that were inc he says i saw some things that was still incomplete in february's copy and he says and i saw things that were complete one min so he had chapter headings which were empty they had no hadith in them

and he says and he had some hadith with no chapter heading and he says so we started to move them around what does bhajji say bhaji says he says what proves this to be true that al-mustamli's copy and sarah sees copy in kashmir hani's copy and marwazi's copy are all different so it shows

us and he goes on to say despite them taking from one book how are they all different okay so and by the way ibn rushed is upset about bhaji's statement the the one because he's trying to justify bukhari so much so he says i wish uh al-badi didn't make that comment because baji kind of questions that how did they get you know despite oh we're all copying from one book why have we all got different books so this is the issue people look so people that are trying to counter this they're trying to say well no you know farabri because people took

from him even the second took from him first of all ibn sakan is known for his tasa in hadith and i haven't got time otherwise i would go through them um you can see actually abdullah assad the the famous uh salafi scholar has a whole thing on in his introduction to the ta'alika of uh the aylal of ibn bihatim it's very interesting he goes through several uh uh shortcomings of even a second anyway who is one of the students of robbery but that's not the point to show that he was mutasa he used to just declare people as reliable when they really weren't but that he hasn't even declared foreign reliable

and to claim well because he transmitted that automatically makes him then that's not what khatib al-baghdadi said that's not what ibn salah said that's not what the habits sorry that ibn hajjar said okay so that's wrong today i've read one person right oh ibn adi wrote a book of weak transmitters and said i put everybody in here so if you don't find anybody in here so if there's any weak transmitter you're going to find him in there because robert is not in there that makes him a reliable [Laughter] oh my god

man is this what we've come to in arguing that if you don't find him in that book he must be reliable oh my god that is the the most absurd that is like the most stupidest thing i've ever heard that goes to show how weak it actually is why not just be honest let's be honest then people the manuscripts amongst themselves disagreed and differed uh they continue the key manuscripts are all through people like al-harawi

who takes from the three students of um and and it's a patchwork he's patching between these three between uh mustamali between saraxi between kushmehani and then by the way he himself says the the and you've got another manuscript known as the karima which is based on the kushmehani but harawi himself says kushmehani was not a scholar of hadith so i ended up deleting a lot of what he had put in there then you've got like okay you've got people in a landlord basing it on what is it that you've got transmissions like a lassili taking

bukhari into andalus you've got people after him i'm basing it on giorgiani's as well and you've got al-kabis he was a maliki scholar and by the way ibn hajjar in jazza is even mistaken here uh even the hajj claims that kaabasi actually had it based on jorjani and that was a mistake he didn't he only had it on marwazi but yes the spanish people did have it on but these are all through fabri and they all disagree and it's not just little disagreements the actual names in the chains are missing as well and this continues until sudhafi is a major source but then he was terrible in his handwriting they say he was

and his manuscripts didn't even have dots so his student actually disagrees with his manuscript massively even does and which is the relied upon manuscript in maghrib today in the north west african world muslim world so and then yunini comes along and does his grand makeover project because he's commissioned and he's a great scholar and i'm not saying his intentions were bad but he makes huge amendments and he sits with the grumerian ibn malik and they then make amendments to the arabic as well which shows that wait a minute why were they these errors in the first place so all of these things then his copy goes missing and we only have copies

from his copy which uh then later on are redone by under the by the commissioning of sultan abdul hamid of the ottoman empire the second and even that has several mistakes in it so my point is look can people answer these things and the truth is you can't so what am i ultimately saying what i'm saying to sum that up people is that bihari we have to look at the claim the claim is that this is the most authentic book on planet earth for muslims putting the quran aside on planet earth