Recordings › The Prophet Noah (a.s.) Did Not Live for 950 Years -Mufti Abu Layth · 11 Aug 2018 › Segment 2 of 3
Why do ancient texts say people lived for hundreds or thousands of years?
muftisThe Sumerian king lists and counting by sixties before and after the flood
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machinesummary, machine-writtenThe enormous reigns in the Sumerian king lists reflect a different counting system, likely based on sixty, and the numbers shorten after the flood. Mufti Abu Layth believes the Old Testament's long lifespans were inherited from this Babylonian material.
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Mufti Abu Layth says some have argued for a linguistic difference between sana and 'am and that he wants to show the distinction is far more than a stylistic choice. He turns to recent archaeological discoveries about the antediluvian kingdoms of Mesopotamia, in particular the Sumerians, who devised the wheel and the division of the hour into sixty minutes and who recorded their affairs in cuneiform on clay tablets that hardened like stone. He says the Sumerian king lists give reigns of tens of thousands of years, which were first taken as exaggeration but are now understood as following a particular system, possibly multiplying by sixty or by hundreds given their affinity for the number sixty, and notes that the figures become much shorter, in the hundreds, for the kings after the flood. He says he believes the Jews inherited these figures during their time in Babylon and recorded them in the Old Testament as people living eight hundred or six hundred years without fully understanding the system, and that this is what the thousand sana for Nuh refers to.
Position stated
Mufti Abu Layth holds that the enormous reigns in the Sumerian king lists reflect a different counting system and that the long lifespans in the Old Testament were inherited from this Babylonian material.
“this is what I believe that people in the old testament some of the Jews had inherited in their time when they were in Babylon and these other kingdoms”
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thousand years al fascinated alarm see now except 50 years right now this is so some people have argued that there is a linguistic difference between sauna and okay what I'm going to now I want to highlight that difference and say that look this was not just mentioned as a coincidence it was much greater than what people took it to be so people thought oh this is just a las just using a style like he doesn't want to say you know alpha Sena in LA from Cena sauna so he just changed
the word that's low-level thought I'm gonna take us to high-level thinking okay recently okay we have and this is recently there's been great discoveries archaeological findings people of the great kingdoms that existed that were the antediluvian kingdoms the kingdoms which existed pre-flood time especially around what would be modern-day let's say the Middle East Iraq like the kingdom of Sumar kingdom of are like
these kind of on what later on went on to become places like Mesopotamia and all these but much before all of that before Babylon before these you had the Sumerian the kingdom of Sumer so we're dating back thousands of years and then after them they will split different kind of civilizations so they're the kind of people who came up with things like discovered the wheel and discovered or created the wheel and even split of time into 60 like let's say 60 60 minutes within an hour and all this kind of stuff now a lot of the archaeological findings have been recently found and they've
actually one thing that the Sumerian civilization and other civilizations did was they documented certain things extensively and they had this thing called like cuneiform where they would write they had their kind of very early way of writing which was a bit like hieroglyphics a bit like that and they would put that into like into this kind of clay and then hardening as stone so it will just turn into kind of stone so this is why these kind of tablets have been well preserved and what what they wrote these things on
these cuneiform kind of legacy that we find so in there they've got a lot of the rules of the kings so and you can find this on google you can go to like for example the Sumerian Kings and their rule how long did they rule so it's really interesting when you start reading the rule they will say well such-and-such these three kings ruled for 300 and whatever sixty thousand years and you think what and they'll say and this King ruled for twenty thousand
years and this King ruled for and they and they seem to count like ridiculous figures now at first yes so this is before Gilgamesh by the way this is before Gilgamesh Gilgamesh comes a bit later on now the interesting thing is that these people first at first people thought this was exaggeration then they realized actually they're going by a particular system they're not actually just randomly making things up they had a particular system some people felt that they they they've kind of done their own calculations you can google it
but they felt that maybe they timed everything by 60 and hence they had this kind of obsession ain't the right word but this kind of miss strong affinity with 60 hence they divided the hour into 60 minutes and things like this a lot of these things were divided into 64 a four degrees and stuff like this now some sometimes may be in the hundreds they times multiplied numbers when they counted so they would say well such-and-such a king ruled for this time and this King came and this King came and they had excessive numbers and then
you see the numbers start to change these are antediluvian which means before the flood and then post diluvian you start to see the numbers are still huge but they become massively shorter in the hundreds so you start to see that world mmm the system seems to have changed and this is what I believe that people in the old testament some of the Jews had inherited in their time when they were in Babylon and these other kingdoms maybe they never fully understood them but they kind of locked them in the Old Testament as such and such person being around for 800 years or 600 years this
is what it may have been so when Allah is referring to nor alaysalam he's used is referring to something that of his time the Alpha sonatine is going by the time that they were using except - of 50 years which would be our time 50 years so there is great divine wisdom in Allah mentioning the distinction between the two words and this is not new so you would see when Allah refers to so for example when Elijah referring to Yusuf
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Mufti Abu Layth. (2018, August 11). Why do ancient texts say people lived for hundreds or thousands of years? [Video, segment 2018-08-11-S02, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wpqa8rxai-u/s/2/
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