Did the angels assist in the Battle of Badr? | Mufti Abu Layth

was going on how did angels fight against the hostile polytheists at Buddha ah interesting s muy interesante you see let's take this question first people you see it's interesting that the Battle of Badr okay first of all depicting the Battle of brother the companions and the Prophet the Prophet site the believers as they were then known me known they were one not in huge quantities people there's a famous number three one three three

thirteen but it's not necessary that they were three hundred thirteen they may have just been three hundred three hundred and whatever or not number but the point is they weren't they were outnumbered that part seems to be you know what the evidence clearly suggests that the army of grace were probably at least a thousand strong and the believers did not want to engage in any kind of warfare but they were prepared for it like they weren't prepared but they were you know hoping for the best but expecting the worst it was that mentality but they were hoping that they

were just able to reach the place and because the whole thing was to do with a caravan arriving and they didn't want it they didn't want it to be intercepted by the core age before they could get to the caravan and so this is what the race was - it was - the caravan now the dangers were if they if grace got there in time before them there was going to be a showdown face off and they weren't in a good position to take on because they were heavily outnumbered they were not militarily equipped very well I mean they had swords but that's it really you

know they had a few Spears a few horses they weren't really they were just apart from I mean they did have swords and things like that but they weren't compared to the other people who came Camelback and horseback and you know with all these kind of drums beating and all these people making a big hoo-ha really prepared a whole parade for war so now as it happened that or I'm cites the believers saying that they were hoping that it was not going to be a war outcome but yeah Allah says in the Quran

but Ya Allah what Allah had destined was to be and the point is that they there is a clash there is a faceoff they turn up the ratio of the now the believers do stand their ground and they fight passionately Battle of Badr is overwhelmingly a clear success for the believers and it obviously reinforces the entire faith structure and it was a very moving emotional kind of battle because one day doesn't want to you know sometimes when you're pushed against the

corner you come out of it fighting really hard so so they were kind of just fed up and it's a very and even some of the I had eat that transmit the final doors I mean not the final but the doors the final two hours before warfare of the Prophet where he says to where he makes it to either Ya Allah in toilet at Eli's father let me talk about fill up that this is all there is of the believers if they today perish you will not be worshipped on this earth it's as simple as that and it is an amazing very emotional kind

of event that takes place now later on you see a lot describes in the Quran that they were reinforced and assisted with angelic help now is this literary usage or is this actual physical descriptions many Muslims will believe that this is just literary kind of symbolic usage of language like when Allah says in the Quran for example about Redwan that when they made a pledge to avenge lost man because they thought

lost man this later on in Medina had been killed but he hadn't and the Prophet took a bay a tall red one he took a pledge till the end with some believers around him and Allah says why here told law he Foca ad him you know they put their hands on top of you and Allah placed his hand above their hand now this nobody believes that to be literal they all take that to be kind of symbolic usage to mean that God is with you so this thing when Allah says they were you know five thousand angels or you know thousands of angels we sent reinforcing you was this about

reinforcing your determination your your ability your steadfastness in the face of adversity is that what it was or were these literal kind of anthropomorphic like men like people that were there fighting so many people would feel that this was this was simply symbolic usage of languages literary usage it was not real the thing is that some Sahaba do describe later on like we have descriptions of some companions saying

oh we saw these angels come forward and fight they were you know cutting off the limbs of the people in front of us they were slice slicing through the enemy ranks ahead of us now they say and they some of them described them in color that they were kind of armored Clady this green clad armor that they were wearing and the horses were clad cladded in certain kind of armor and a green color and they had and their faces were masked and some of the companies the

prophet doesn't describe this but some people have made these descriptions now it's interesting that you see on one hand were these simply simply kind of narrow to logic stories that these companions were telling other generations after them as one would maybe at times anthropomorphize forces or determination so was it just a literary thing like storytelling was that what it was that many people may feel that other people have felt that this may have been in the

midst of the battle that's what it felt like to them that they felt that oh my god were people did I see something did I and they felt they saw these things so you know whether those things were actually happening but they felt it and that's fine so that's another into that's another interpretation now I did come across recently a rare interpretation now I'm not saying this interpretation carries any has to be has to carry any truth but it was an

interesting one and it was just intriguing I mean most likely it isn't true I don't believe it's true but I just found it interesting and I haven't looked into it so deeply but from what I came across you see some people have proposed that and and these are some kind of historians and non-muslims know and people who specialized in in kind of Persian history and things like this they have proposed and hypothesized that

Salman al-farsi rhodiola one who was a Persian and he'd come from a he had a very illustrious kind of history like somebody who initially was from the family of his rastering background and that too from a kind of priestly lineage and then he converts to Christianity and then he baked and then he becomes a very like a successful trader and then moves to Makkah now the interesting

thing is that a sorry - to Medina and embraces Islam now the interesting thing is that these people feel that Salman al-farsi was originally sent with a kind of military intelligence perspective from the Persian Empire and he because the Persian Empire had fallen into a bit of disarray as well and it was quite insecure and because he was from a family that were of highly priests they were close to this you know the the

kisses and the rulers and things like this so they feel that as a very intelligent person they nominated him and sent him to kind of gather intelligence and hopefully this is what this some of these historians have alleged that salman al-farsi was to mobilize these southern forces who were these bedouin and non bedouin but these Arabs who were neglected people because you had the you know you had the Byzantine and you had the Persian Sassanid dynasties and at the south you just had these Arabs who were neglected

negligible force so he was to mobilize them and use them to attack the Byzantines eventually in time to come this allegedly is was some kind of conspiracy that some people are I have argued that salman al-farsi was originally sent with and then he may have truly embraced Islam whether so they've not I mean from what I've heard they've not argued that whether his embracing of Islam was fake so they feel that maybe he truly embraced this

message but he always kept a and he was close to the house of Karen now sometimes just written in English as Karen like the the English name Karen like of a woman but here Karen was a mean it was a man not a woman in Farsi who were a particular that like a fiefdom they had like a like a miniature Kingdom if you like within the Persian Empire and they were rivals with the current sassanids but they were still Persian at the end of the day part of that kind of

heritage and now this historian argues that there was an incident when a new chauhan the famous leader of the persians is is facing a turkish kind of onslaught that from you know the torque the original from up north central asia and he's going to fight them and he stands there and they standoff and he's losing he's losing you know he doesn't seem to be able to hold his ground and then this army turns up that are not a part of his army but they come you know with this kind of green armored clad clad Adama

sorry and the horses have this green cladded kind of armor and they have the faces covered and they fight off the torque and save under sherwin under sure one is before Islam he's probably about two generations before Islam now you see he's a famous Persian one of the the epic kind of leaders so he then at the end of the battle once they've won allegedly gets these people and managed to kind of encircle them and he forces them to oh look to who they are and they are from the household or they they then reveal that we are from the household we

are Knights from the household of current of caring now these historians like George Ani Jason Jordanian others have then argued that they feel Salman al-farsi had sent message to the household of Kuran of Kareem who then sent those same Knights because this description is what he feels and some of the people I can feel the description of the household of the Knights of the household of caring so they came and helped the Muslims beat

the Battle of Badr and then they just disappeared so two Muslims it felt that maybe they were the Angels because they didn't expect anybody to be this so when they saw these things you know these horses in cladded armor and and the knights in green clad in armor and masks and they associated this with maybe an angelic help or because they were told there is angelic help as well they assumed that this was the angels that's an interesting kind of interpretation obviously it requires a lot of exploration into the history into

looking into these these armors sorry these armored Knights of the house of Karin and what role they really did play in history and how powerful they were I mean even if it is true it in no way is it's not worrying or anything like this it just even if it be true it simply just goes to show that okay that there was help but and some people because they were told there was angelic help as a literary device they assumed this help to have been the angelic one as an assumption because otherwise it didn't

make any sense I mean I'm not saying it's true I don't most likely wasn't true but I feel even if it was true it's not in any way problematic but I found it an interesting theory nonetheless I did find it interesting cool so I hope that's broadened some research horizons for some of you out there so what else is going on me think there