You Attract What You Are | Meaning With MALM #20

[Music] all right people allahu akbar let me just take a look whoa i seem to be back this up a little so let me just do a quick bring up the comments do a quick sound check as usual you guys know the drill i can see some comments moving about let me see

where are they at um are these the comments i take it they are yep i think so right so let me just check that the sound is going through loud and clear in order to begin so alright i see quite a few people here loud and clear shukran mohammed qurayshi this milan

you've already been waiting but whilst whilst we're getting this on the this show on the road you know the drill i'm going to be bringing up uh whilst whilst you guys are clicking like and share and spreading the love as you so awesomely do always let me just bring up in the background um

today's file so i've got that here i'm just loading this up all right okay are we there yep we are i mean just see the date [Music] where is today's date there is okay i've got it all right so right loading up allah akbar

what i want to take a look at today and it's moved straight past it already well you see that's what that's the day and age now now 2022 2022 people so very quickly first of all let me just highlight what we're taking a look at then i'm going to take a look at some of your comments let me just bring this back up right there you guys are so today

a little bit about this what some people call the law of attraction others to simply put this concept of saying you attract what you put out because i'm not sure when people say law of attraction it can mean maybe many things for different people so taking a look at that in light of quranic guidance people allah so that i want to introduce a snapshot from the seer of the prophet sallallahu alaihi in line with

new beginnings which is the new year and people revisiting themselves and that is a personality known as abu sufyan ibn harith now who is abu sufyan i doubt it many people have heard of him and that's something i want to explore and somebody incredibly beloved to the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam but also a lot of turbulence in his story he goes on to be incredibly hurtful to the prophet so

we're going to look at this and his story and and what happens and where he begins what goes on right through and and how does it end so something that we can seek inspiration from um right where is this gone and also as always people i thought you know what since it's the new year why not share a story about a gramerian but really the theme is divine providence risk and this concept of tawakkul and i thought why not

a character abu uthman al-mazzini a grumerian from the bossary school alongside the caliph of the abbasids al-wathak who we have taken a brief look at previously but these will be some names that will come up in that story so the best way to really learn is through stories so who do we have here let's take a look at some of the people online we've got you know i've gotta double click everything my this mouse is it's it's not working as it should be

right so what's going on how are things are right so we've got an i have to triple click everything now anisa karin from sweden all right you doing it you're doing it people you doing it clear

right let me see you've got darth vader saying hanji dostoo wasn't darth vader somebody from europe if so he's really kicking the the dissi lingo right well i might be mixing him up with someone else actually scorpio

claire much love for the super super sticker dearly appreciated allah bless you all right right abd can you give a shout out to my niece anisa who is 15 today well happy birthday anisa and may allah bless this year and many more blessed years to come i mean i mean all right so right let me just bring

monkey see monkey do cap people it is 2022. [Laughter] remember when the pandemic began and those memes were out where somebody comes from the future and he says what year is it and they say 2020 and the person says ah that's when the three-year pandemic began and the other person's like what well here we are people

here we are it's still with us but it is a new fantastic new year people it is that's what it is 2022 allahu akbar new beginnings a new chapter in our story of life think about it each one of us has each one of us has a story our own very personal story of life and this is a new chapter in it may allah bless it

for you all for us all i mean make it amazing beyond imagination i mean i mean so [Music] right place chester what is

right so um look at this question how can i not take this question mufti here's a question why are you so awesome this is you know what it is it is it is in your vision it is as they say in arabic

it is by the eyes that you see that you see awesomeness and that ties into um that ties into what we are talking about today that ties into that which is you attract what you put out allah akbar a theme and i want people to

i want you to understand that some of us sometimes some people they get into a rut okay look we are the only creatures with a voice inside our heads okay animals won't most likely allahu alama we can't get into the heads of animals but they won't have consciousness the way we have consciousness and they won't have this voice because they don't have voice and they don't have

language okay they have communication of course but not language language is a phenomenon unto itself so we are the only creatures with a voice inside our head and you will get people that will their voice will tell them that you're so messed up you know you're ridiculous you're a failure you're wretched cursed

bad things happen to you you don't deserve anything good all of this is nonsense okay all of these if you find yourself having these voices you must rewrite your script we are the only creatures that can rewrite our script

i want you to if you if you hear that say alzheimer's and if you can add more audible that there is no might there is nothing no efficacy no nothing affects nothing it is god so and for some people who get really in an obsessive rut in this ocd manner certain hadith tradition show to counter a ritual with a ritual rituals are

always by definition rituals they're meaningless they don't as in they're symbolic they don't have um a meaning unto themselves because then they it's difficult to make them into a ritual so in the tradition it means mentions tefl which is like to just something like that it's not it's like to blow with subtle you're not really like an aspirated bro blow you're not really spitting or anything like that but you're just doing like this and it's the hadith although some of these may have problems in the chain but it's

showing a ritual onto the left side and a person does that they say out of below in the shaytan regime now this is a ritual in and of itself it may have no meaning but you see the root that people are stuck in is also a ritual so for people who are totally stuck they can use a ritual to cancel a ritual okay for people who just have the these voices sometimes they they need to stop

allah says we give you new beginnings victories and that's what that's what everything if you see it that's what it is this year is a new year it's a new beginning so if you've had a year full of these thoughts you cancel it now new year great things are going to happen and you'll see great things will happen big and you might think well how is that and people say things like i don't want to jinx it you see

weakness of faith allah weakness of belief i don't want to jinx it it could go wrong have your belief unto me have certainty a storm can come this way it ain't going to move anything it is all about that indeed

so because i this is important because we see this a lot in this society people's self beliefs society isn't messing them up they themselves are missing them i don't want to jinx it oh my god something bad's gonna happen oh my god this you know all these kind of i'm a failure i don't deserve this i just rewrite your script okay and let me just finalize this point with one thing you see and the reason i said we are the only creatures

why did i say that because look take any creature it is set in its metaphorical orbit wild animals a wolf a dog i mean dogs don't have to be wild but i mean you could have wild dogs wolves lions tigers any creature a snake crocodile take whatever comes to your mind if it's in the wild it has its orbit it will hunt

it will seek food it will survive if it lives in a forest if it lives in a desert if it lives wherever it lives that's its habitat it is confined to this metaphorical orbit within life it does that the lion will hunt the gazelle it will hunt whatever it does in its landscape it will always a lion will not just one day decide to i know let's do something let's just become totally different

it no creature on earth now you take just imagine the unfathomable number number of creatures that exist from the tardigrade to the eagle anything everything in between they are all in their orbit yes like how allah says everything is in its orbit afloat see when you're afloat it's good but you're being carried

by the current human beings we have the capacity that somebody who may have been something his entire or her entire life maybe somebody just they i don't know they had let's say okay education they just did something somebody i don't know they opened a shop or they worked somewhere or they were a homemaker somebody just stayed at home took care of children or whatever let's

just say they did something suddenly they get an inspiration that you know what i want to become a writer i want to become a painter i want to become a businessman i i never there was i always wanted to have this business i want to become a doctor i want to become a teacher

that sudden decision in that day of their lives if they act out on it the trajectory of their lives will change the whole script changes the whole orbit can change obviously they will have to see it through they're going to have to live up to it and there's going to have to be some effort but the point is the only creatures on earth that can do that change your script somebody could wake up say i'm going you know what i'm going to start going to the gym i'm gonna i don't like the way i am i'm

gonna change my body shape they can do it somebody wakes up says you know what i don't i'm not happy with my economic status i'm gonna change it they change it somebody with the circle of friends with their relationship anything it the only creatures on earth that can do that you could literally i mean i'm not saying if somebody said you know what i always want to live in that country where there's a will there's a way

just think about that it is i'm telling you it's so powerful when we think about it let me just see what some of the comments are somebody said somebody says right basic animal intelligence from not the voice that humans have sort of like basically yep of course i mean intelligence

is different obviously that's we're not talking about i was more talking about we have like an inner voice and hopefully that inner voice is good it tells you things like you can do this you've got this but some people that inner voice sometimes says things like you're a failure [Laughter] that's a problem that voice needs to be filtered out right let's move on people what's going on

in cobra kai they depict this very thing flip the script oh i like the sound of that flip the script i i was saying rewrite the script but i like the sound of that flip the script i'm going to become a madhali why not why not if that's if that's what you want to do if that's what you need to self actualize then go for it man go for it why not right so whilst i did have here as well people

on the left there from rumi mawlana what you seek is seeking you allah i want you to remember that okay because it's going to tie into today's lesson and i thought here was a a different poem but why not interesting but [Laughter] he's saying you see you change the

perspective you change the way you look at something and the perspective changes see your angle changes what you see that you change your thought and he says the cosmos changes and he says that it's not important that you change the boat this is an im like this he said it's not important that you have to change the ship or change the bolt just simply change its direction and the shore itself will change

i think that's that's quite a i saw that i thought i like it man i like it let's share it so somebody said thinker much love thanks to mods too for their effort likewise shukran much appreciated the mods are awesome right so all right what is going on

somebody said mufti there is an islamophobe ugly bold dude by the name of sam shaman who challenged you to a debate mafia [Laughter] live a life goal enjoy life you know what some shaman i i is not interested okay

i don't preoccupy myself with such people or such thoughts too much awesome stuff to do in life then be preoccupied by islamophobes you know what people i mean i get it people are at different stages in life so you know some people this it means a lot but as you kind of get through a certain amount of life all this stuff means nothing it's like

i love you brianna okay right so mufti when did we get akida [Music] ah when did we get akita lecture i'm not sure see because the channel sounds so formal and professional i don't this must be a serious question it must be a very it must be a doctor asking it so i don't know dr sab i i don't understand the question but

hang around when we go live i mean when i share the the link jump on and um yeah it'd be good to see what what you're asking sorry i came late [Laughter] [Music]

he says you took too long in your shall we say in your arrival that will make it sound better so mm-hmm mufti can you take dmt on live stream while doing thicker and spinning around well things like dmt to me are sacred medicines you don't take these things for a joke right love you do you love

you too yeah i love you too would it be possible to get the marvelous quran guy the marvelous grand guy on mind trap well sure i mean what you can do is you can ask um dr uh dr hani i believe shayhani if he wishes to come on it'd be great yeah let's get him on mm-hmm all right so uh so mufti i'm from ethiopia i saw your clip

that challenged salafi creed seen then i was waiting your lecture allah yeah you know i [Laughter] ah i sometimes think about that

you know i find myself on a different plane of consciousness and disinterested in things like debates i as in genuinely from my heart this is how i feel so so it's not my course of action i did definitely uh not last year before definitely in 2020 2020 i was publicly making challenges and doing that take it it was a different time

and um but where i find my headspace and my heart space now i don't think it's beneficial i don't like it um [Music] i'm more than capable of doing it but i think it doesn't it brings toxicity and it's not healthy it's not healthy for the hearts so discussions are much better if a person wants to discuss something uh in a nice way friendly way hopefully

where they can agree to disagree then of course by all means i would welcome any such guest that is obviously learning to speak on such matters and they can come on my mind trap and i would um i mean i would love that and i would be very respectful but i yeah i'm not interested in the debating thing i'm interested in maybe discussing it with people and saying you know maybe on mind traps where it's more that kind of a talk and discussion yeah so that's where i am

somebody said toxicity is lit toxicity is not lit is mufti from india or pakistan the indian subcontinent is it not in essence all but one is it not what difference does it make we're from all of hindustan why not

yolanda i appreciate all your positive comments and remarks i really do appreciate that shukran what if people around you are so negative that they drain you from trying to grow yeah you have to change that you have to honestly um you have to you can't let people inhibit your growth i mean you can but at a great price

and great you know at your own peril it's not worth it so [Music] what to do is expand your circles of friendship your circles of of influence your circles of learning make new friends as well so you don't have to cut off the old friends keep them but just make new friends also people who are different have different interests different taste you know it's so easy to do this i get

it there's some discomfort because it's you know there's the initial kind of having to do something because it's out of the ordinary but once you do it once or twice it's all great i'm telling you it's absolutely great so [Music] don't uh so that's my my thoughts on the mata i would say that and it's you could just go online you could look for groups that share similar interests they don't have to be muslim they could be anyone just people that so for example if you want to learn about philosophy you could look for a philosophy group if you want to look

about learn about museums history whatever your interest is just find a group and connect and make friends definitely um notice to all could we please refer to the mufti by his full grand title grand mufti of no no you don't please none of this none of this um

right let's uh write shukran for the super chat seema shukran much love uh what's the best way to know which thoughts or script you're meant to follow versus something you should leave alone after trying it right so now that's a good question

how do you know you ought to follow some intuition our intuition i'm telling you it is something that is i don't know how these things interact i don't know how they work i feel that it is more related or it is somewhat related somehow to the element of the somehow i mean maybe there's multiple layers with multiple kind of interactions but intuition is an incredibly powerful one it's what people like uh young would carl jung would associate with you know the two million year old self the

collective unconscious and the the the kind it's because it's timeless it can trigger premonitions that's looking at it from analytical psychology but the point is our intuition is incredibly important but how do we know what it exactly means if somebody says look what what should i change should i fall you know i've got a feeling i should do this but should i do it what if it's going to be a disaster or should i do that or should i do that well one thing for sure is that you can't do everything so you have to

select now it may be that what you choose to do today you turn away from in years to come so for example you may pursue a particular business idea or a particular profession or or some kind of an interest and hobby but you might it might take a lot out of you but and maybe seven years from today five years from today you may think ah you know this isn't it that's actually what i needed to be on but for you to see that seven years from

today you have to be at that point which starts with this beginning you see you can't see that so if i point it here you'll make sense so if you're starting off here and you need to go there but once you're there you realize ah actually i should be at this point you see from there you can see it from here you can't so just pursue what your heart is set on what opens to you something you know this term as well is used from the quran what is known as

in arabic it's that it's like it's an amazing way to express it actually it means like that the chest or the the kind of bosom opens to it and expands to the idea i have found personally in my life when i needed to do certain things i found in sherachus for it i found that all of a sudden it seemed like that thing is doable like it's actually as in it's no longer an in just an absurd

hypothetical so for example if somebody said i know i want to become an astronaut i know i want to become a neurosurgeon i know i want to become a hacker i know i want to become a coding you know whatever software specialist i know i want to be see these thoughts don't when you say them they're just words with these kind of iconic pictures they don't the emotion isn't moved with them oh i want to become an astronaut you think now you know that that's not even though side of you knows that's not going to

happen but besides that it doesn't it's just a word and a thought but what happens with certain thoughts you get this kind of insurance that you think yeah wait a minute maybe just maybe i can actually achieve this that right there is your cue that's the sign you're waiting for then just tawakkul and go and that's what i found wallahi even when i first

went to study i chose to study against an incredible art and against incredible odds i you know it would have been impossible for me to to study the things that i went on to study where i was at life in life at that stage it was just impossible i was not from a background i was not um i just circumstances i would not have had the money to do so i would not have had the support of anyone no family anybody in fact i would have had

sheer adversity to choose to do something like that so it was to me as impossible as if somebody today was to say to me hey why don't you just hey why do you just go and live in hong kong or why do you just go live in you know like something totally you think that well that's not gonna happen so this is how it was to me and then just one day

it just kind of dawned on me that this other that do you think he could actually do you think maybe that could actually be possible that perhaps it can and just that feeling i acted out on and you know it did happen they were very tough odds but i i did do it and i went through it and in life because of that that happened early on i was only just turned 18 at the time after that whenever a situation came and

i felt that same feeling i acted if i could because unusually always went through so that's my thoughts [Music] low consciousness detected what's this i used to are you trying to why is buying superchat taking me to app store i don't know i don't know how this i didn't think you needed to go to app store but that's there you go

right okay let's take a look at today's i want to take a look at some verses of the quran and especially in light of this theme that we're looking at with the new year 2022 and that is that you are you attract what you are now what does that mean right we just had a super chat let me just take a s right have i missed another super chat one moment

musty do you believe we could uh shift realities with practice uh shukran below it for the super chat much love when you say do you believe we could shift realities um if what you mean by that is to alter our state of consciousness i believe yes of course we can alter our state of consciousness either through meditation through mindfulness or sometimes through certain certain food or certain kind of i don't know certain certain chemicals

we can alter our state of consciousness so yes i guess so if that's the question is it possible it's definitely possible scientifically and practically and i'm not sure how to understand that question differently so mm-hmm does that mean should we practice i don't know i guess it depends on the people that are practicing it i do find it interesting though i agree with you know i was listening to something by graham hancock and he said that he was speaking about psychedelics and he said it's interesting he said

that the state lays and stakes a claim to your consciousness he said they don't do this overtly or um they they do it discreetly okay so they don't say to you or hey citizens we have a stake or we have authority over your consciousness but he said that if you were to wish to take a psychedelic that would alter your

state of consciousness they prohibit that and declare it a contraband and proscribed item that you cannot do that that you cannot alter your state of consciousness i found that very fascinating as a statement because in many ways as carl jung had said that you see state is the new state is a replacement or a substitute for god in many ways he said that because

what people and he said and your kind of servitude to the state is akin to worship and in many ways it is you know when you look at society people wanting to be good citizens good citizenry um doing certain things and feeling good about it in a way and i'm not saying and this is not a value judgment i'm not saying to people don't do this i'm just analyzing it that if you see how so for example the government will say write everyone be responsible work from home

now yes people do it because and that's great it's functional because let's say you want to prevent covid but when they do it there's a rewarding mechanism you see it's like they feel good they feel like i've done virtue i've i've done you know i've got this kind of hassanat i'm a good citizen i'm an abdul this is it's it's really fascinating and the state this this authority that can that

has the the power to initiate decree and law and do's and don't allah it's interesting and in some in some places has the power to give death

and grant life in some ways not a biological although that could also be discussed but a a statutory life declares someone stateless to to give them the means to live to give them life with any meaning of real life it's amazing i i do i was reading that by carl jung and i thought you know it's so wow it's so kind of there and you just don't notice it because god you know the god and religion have become the gods of old

and these are the gods of new and deep down it is kind of still a religious belief in governments and countries and nations and these are vestiges of religious beliefs of these superpowers these invisible entities of the psychosocial realm that don't have an actual existence i mean what is a what is the state what is it what is it it's an imaginary entity isn't it it's not like um i mean people could say there's a geographic geographical landmark that that kind of

is is part of the state but that's not because state boundaries are can be artificial as well you know they can be they don't have to reflect a geographical kind of outline you don't so anyway yeah let's move on all right super chat i see sarasota sugar and much love for the super chat dearly appreciated mufti been reading up on all the messianic religious cults formed in the us why are people blindly following these cult leaders who claim to be the messiah

um okay i i'm not up to date with the kind of messianic cult so i don't know what if there's been many new cults and in the states and people are following them although we're all aware of several that have happened and america has been a hotbed as well for the kind of messianic vision so why do people follow it i mean there's so there's a number of factors in that see people's the outlook on life the kind of um trying to drive a meaning

an ultimate meaning that holds all meaning together the the end of times so to come that people and this is regardless people could you know somebody doesn't have to have any faith and then they could find themselves all caught up in this and then along comes someone that has certainty of whatever his message is or her message and although often it's a he but so they will and and this attracts people you will get you see acolytes people that follow

the cults they will have certain personality traits as well and people that can that need to to kind of belong and they have a strong sense of belonging a but also a a pursuit for there's a huge void for meaning in their lives and then they find meaning that this is so powerful honestly meaning i really agree with victor frankl that meaning is at the heart of being seriously and to me i would even argue that that is one of the

one of the arguments for the existence of god and i find it much more compelling than like the first mover argument and all of the you know the old aristotelian stuff i do i don't i mean those things are fine but to me they don't really do much they don't pluck out any heart strings but meaning you see the fact that being is so intrinsically caught up with me and being itself has an intelligibility to it the intelligibility of being

as in with a capital b that is i mean that's some complex stuff there so yeah and i think that it's actually i agree it's the cure to what people have today depression and many things is because of meaning they don't have the right meaning in their life let's move on all right so all right so if em ismail akram shukran much love for the super chat um if a motorcycle brought you evidence of why a supernatural event can happen

through rational evidence what is your response if a mother killing what oh you mean like a theologian i was trying to think who is who's mutha kill him if a mata kelly brought you evidence of why a supernatural event can happen through rational evidence what is your response presumably through logic i'm not sure i fully understand the question because what you're saying is if something which

let's say defies reason has now a reasonable explanation to understand it then we would understand it i mean i don't see the the confusion in that if somebody for example for example say time travel um at a certain point was deemed unreasonable and but then now physics has explained how time travel could technically happen although whether it's happened or not we don't know perhaps it has happened and people have come back

but so now that we understand the mechanisms of how how time operates we understand it so it makes sense that ah okay so this is how time travel could happen so for example either one element is like the kind of wormholes or whether it's going to be at the speed of light and relativity but the point is that you understand how time travel happens and then you think well ah okay well that can happen then but i suppose if you didn't know that and a person said well time travel could

happen um then you know you i think you would on good reason deny it because it doesn't make sense in the world so and you would ask for them to explain it and if they couldn't explain it then on good grounds i think you could you would deny it the other realm is called god's wide earth according to ibn arabi it's where you hear the thicker of everything in its own way it's also a place where you meet others who have entered into it

was saying you know what let's dedicate a poem to sajad you know plus he has the name which is also who's a relative of mine and a great scholar although quite unfortunately quite camera shy i wish he was was less camera shy because he has a lot to offer so you know what dedicated to you sajad let's go

let's go to a poem before that there's just a super chat by waker um your take on grave punishment before judgment day do you have a clip on it on grave punishment um so shukran much love wake up for the super chat um i'm not sure if i have a clip on punishment of the grave i can't remember to be honest i've spoken so much i have definitely spoken on it in the past look punishment of the grave there's different ways to

[Music] people read the quran they have the corpus of the islamic tradition and people understand different things certain people they look at the quran and they say that right or they look at the whole corpus the whole tradition and they say there is going to be punishment in the grave they say that there is a stage between this life and the next life and it is a a kind of purgatory-like stage and this is called the grave realm even though it's not really in the grave but it so if you dig up the grave they're not there there but it's

it's like a venn diagram between this realm and the next realm and the thing you have in the middle the the overlap of the venn that's the kind of barzahram so in this realm is going to be punishments and pleasures and all of these things so there are many i would say possibly uh today even the majority i could say this i don't know without carrying out the exact research but let's say you could say the majority of the people believe this there have been other ulama that have also looked in islam they have looked at this and said well you know when you look at the quran it does not seem to suggest

because the quran when you look at it it shows that people when they die they seem to be in the quran this allah is saying they arise from from the dead saying oh were we asleep how long were we asleep wasn't it just half a day or was it just a moment or they seemed to have no sense of time as though they couldn't tell what was happening so some people say well you know there's no such thing mentioned in the quran categorically of the punishment of the grave so maybe there isn't a punishment there isn't this but what it is is that maybe that experience that you're going through in those moments

it may be shaded by a kind of dark experience or an enlightened experience based on what is yet to come so it's like a a trailer kind of or a premonition exposure to the con the continuum of life so that's some way that people look at this other people may say well no some verses in the quran hint two words there is a punishment fine some people say it probably doesn't some muslim philosophers may argue that

no it's kind of just all consciousness once you go on it doesn't look people will believe many things it's not i would say that these all of these beliefs are taken from islam they are taken from the quran and the tradition if you follow one that's fine if you follow the different one to me that's fine if you follow the other one that's fine if you follow another one that's fine it doesn't really to be honest

i'll stop short of saying i haven't experienced death but not in the traditional sense so people nobody that has completely experienced categorical death comes back to talk of it so in that sense this is all in the elm of allah that's what it is only allah knows i would say concern yourself with this world concern yourself with your life don't you don't need to worry about the qualitative texture of

what will the other dimension feel like because you won't understand it anyway what would you understand about another life you couldn't understand it it's not from this realm so how do you understand another realm that you cannot imagine think see smell so it's yeah but by all means if you already whichever whatever you believe and you want to read up more on it feel free to do so i hope that helps

yeah yeah exactly i mean who's been to the grave and has come back for certain but i wouldn't i wouldn't look what i wouldn't do i'll just add a little footnote to that don't make this a thing don't kind of you know people make these into um inquisitions what do you believe will exactly happen when you die okay you are a kafir you are on the borders of islam you are a muslim but you're not a sunni muslim you are

look don't make this a thing okay just have your faith try to be a good human being have love for allah have love for the quran have love for the prophet sallallahu alaihi and spread that love amongst humanity you know don't try to oh do you believe the ribs will exactly penetrate into each other do you believe that there will be scorpions in the grave oh you don't believe they'll be scoping them okay well this guy but he does believe the ribs will say okay he can still be a muslim but he can't be a proper muslim and that person can't be this kind of a

muslim he should be a kafir completely and that guy might as well just be jewish or he might as well just be you know don't do this it is insulting to islam okay just remember any if you preoccupy yourself with these things just remember that you will be heading to that grave at some point this life is not don't you know if you try to to make yourself the gatekeeper of god's dominion of of what only allah has dominion over then

yeah that's it's it's a pity that's all i can say so all right now it's got the end so sorry did i miss out a

uh ismail i don't know what these questions are about what's this supernatural by the divine mercy and loving gods only certainly things can happen but they aren't okay well we're not talking about that right now anyway so right let's take a look at some verses of the quran i want to share with you guys

oh right has this not got oh yeah salam did this knock it oh no it didn't ah this is these are the other right okay so hmm it hasn't got these faces but i'll go through i'll take that off okay i want to take a look at some verses today um

i'll bring them up they um they are here but it'll take too long i guess to alter the right so in light of the new year and why the new year i just want to say this it's not that the new year is not something special in that sense that it's a religious festival it's not and neither is it something sacred in islam the reason i say it is it's just a milestone okay now if you are going to

so people at a certain point review things like the summer might be a time for exams in the uk september may be the beginning of an academic year so people may may kind of organize their lives april in the uk is the beginning of a new tax year so you have to have your accounts submitted and things so people may organize their year in a particular way there's nothing wrong with this this is we live in the world we function by the world so at the beginning of a new year many people revisit like what have i done in the last year what have i

achieved they do what we call in arabic mahasabha and say um that take your do this self accountability before you are taken to account and if you you can set it whenever and the new year is an excellent time to do because people they feel energized this is why people have new year's resolutions you know what i've been so lazy last year this year i'm going to the gym and they go for a few weeks and the gyms are rampant but people say you know what this year i'm going to start that

business you know what this year i'm going to make amends this year i think this is honestly i think it's amazing and a beautiful opportunity to do that it's nothing to do with islam in the sense that it's not a holy month or a holy time of the year or it's nothing religious like that all it is islam always tells you to seize opportunities so it's an opportunity that's all it is because somebody asked me is it isn't this like haram or something or i said why i said don't you don't you go by the time don't you go by am pm don't you go by 24 hours where did you

get that islam didn't give you these things these are just this is function this is you live in the world you go by time you go by a calendar it's not something it's not it's pragmatic functionality that's what it is so in light of that people are viewing things they're setting things and it's a great time to when you're doing muhasaba to rewrite that script so i've been asked by a few people that what are my thoughts on about

on these frequencies or on people attracting what they are and i feel that it depending on how you understand these of course in many ways in in this particular understanding that i'd like to share that that is i feel that that is the case in light of quranic guidance and what i mean by that is that what we put out is what we find

if you see the world through a lens of positivity through a lens of love compassion you will find that in the world if you smile you will find the world smiling if you're miserable grumpy you're you're just a hateful person a hurtful person you reject many things you will find things lacking in life but that is the message of the quran allah says like in shakirtom you're

grateful i will give see you go into allah and people sugar you are being good to people you are doing things you are allies giving if you all of a sudden allah mentions in the quran so taking a look at i want to share certain verses now there's a verse from uh off now you've got 96.

see if the people of the settlement or of the towns had faith if only faith is that abstract element that it's in the that positive if they had faith and they were mindful of god see because once you're mindful of god by extension you're mindful of his creation

allah you see when you have that positive mindset when you have this i want to serve i want to what does allah say f we would have opened blessings all kinds of blessings but how if they had done the action what was the action it was a mindfulness it was faith and mindfulness it was it began in there

that they had this belief they had a belief structure they had that conviction and then they were mindful these blessings in abundance would have been open for them but look at the contrast you see now there's many ways of understanding this that yes one way is that if we're restricting this to the time of the prophets they denied prophets they denied verses of the quran but they also denied god's blessings

they denied his grace they denied love and compassion did they not deny they denied insania they denied essan they denied it they saw someone in need walk right past they saw somebody suffering not my problem sounds like a you problem what does allah say

and then we took them we took them to account we took them to recompense them accordingly by their actions you see you act and then there is the reaction now people say one way is that people who describe this kind of attraction that don't you see they may not believe in god so they have a different mechanism for it they say that you see what it is is

people have thoughts and emotions and your thoughts and emotions generate some kind of a frequency so you're having ideas you're having obviously in the subconscious mind you've got these kind of they call it sometimes a paradigm or different things but that you have this kind of emotion or this vibration some people in a different uh field would say the mind heart or the brain heart coherence as well that's something that you create that there's this energy whatever it is whether it's physical energy or it's some it's in

i don't know inexplicable but there is something they feel and they would say that when people are on a particular frequency or a particular uh vibration that things that are in sync with that gel with them so they will say for example you're on a good frequency good things come to you good people come to you in your life you have this kind of this toxic this negative vibration negative things come to you in your life

you're one of those people that's always having bad things happen to you now this is a matter of language you see you could see this as the positivity's iman the positivity is that mindfulness of god and then good things are coming to you the positivity is essent and allah says and we cover this

you see you've you've got that state of your son what is it that's coming to you essa is coming to you so what you're kind of putting out there it is bringing and even people what is the hadith say that the the souls if you want to say consciousness that it is almost in bands in groups that they there are some that will gel with each other these souls they are drawn to one another there are some that will repel one another this is in that's in in

bukhari so now this verse i want to bring a another verse here that is in surah now incredibly popular and it's amazing and this is from what i call the superpositions of the quran which is taken from quantum physics the term but that how the quran can give you like immeasurable meanings based on where you are in life okay it has this indeterminate inherent essence to it so here is a verse

and there is a uh another one i i think it's in surah in sun well there's another one that is but let's take this one from it's 29 i believe verse is it 29 29 right so now what's honestly check this out this is amazing many people translate this and this is one of the the ways of looking at this verse is that look you do not will something

except that god willed it or unless that here they may translate this illa except as saying maybe unless god wills it so ultimately everything is by the will of god which ultimately it is everything ultimately there is nothing except only allah's permanence everything else is impermanent it's just the flashing of an eye so that's one way and that's an amazing way of looking at it now all of a sudden you look at this you think well does my my kind of

energy my frequency does the way does this change does this affect things does does god treat me accordingly and you take the same verse now check this this the superposition you do not will something and look at this this is going to seriously blow your mind accept

you do not will for something except god wills for it allah that is something so profound seriously just lord of the worlds you when you will for something you do not will for something you do not bring that will to it that energy to it that

that kind of conviction determination except god wills that it will be you see now in light of that you have the hadith which is in sahih bukhari and i did bring that up uh oh i did have it on the same powerpoint but it seems to have not got saved

but it's the the i want to read the whole wording of it if i had it here that is but it's from it's from uh it's transmitted it's in bukhari and muslim but it's very popular that that i treat my people

my person you could translate it as servant i just think in this day and age we can translate as servant or slave it's just in english it doesn't sometimes carry the same meaning because language changes with the day and age and today servant and slave automatically falls into a derogatory kind of subset of words and that relationship with the lies not derogatory it's an amazing relationship so so i prefer as not to cast upon it this shadow of the kind of social um

interpretative repertoire what they would call in psychology by using that word so i would prefer translating as just saying person or people but you can translate as slave or servant so allah saying i treat people in accordance with what they how they expect me to treat them and if they are mindful of me i am mindful of them look at that tying exactly in to this phenomenal way of understanding that look

you change your way allah will change the world for you or your world at least i don't mean by this i'm not saying in a sense the political structures and the the institutions of the world will change but your world which is stems from here it changes honestly i i find that so and this verse that juan mata

that you do not send out this this this will power what is it ultimately is it an energy is it a deep down kind of vibration is it what is it you do not send it out i mean people could say vibration ultimately i mean everything is a form of energy is just vibration matter is according to string theory just vibration so you do not have this this iman this mindfulness this positivity this will that wa

you do not wish will something and it's not just wish he seemed mashi it's not is not like when you say insha allah it's not or you say you know oh if you you can translate it at times as wish but wish in in english can mean that kind of like that kind of tamini that i wish for something hey what are you if you made a birthday wish this isn't that this is about will that you illa allah and in light of that i'm going to share

a hadith that really just just pins this and that is that the prophet said in a hadith and people have questions some people may question it but the meaning is incredibly profound that that a certain slave in it it is mentioned that who may appear or a person who may appear disheveled appear like a loser like you might look at somebody

think oh what a loser the hadith said there are sever there are certain people like that apparently dusty and losers in the eyes of the world or by losers what what i mean is they they don't have anything to show by what the world measures success but it said that lo aksa mu ala if they took an oath by allah

wow allah will see to it that oath has not gone in vain you know this honestly i learned this hadith probably about 20 years ago it was in our sahih muslim class and you know the day i heard it it shook me because i have found in life that there are there have been times when you know when you have said something

as as as this kind of willful wish but you've said it as a cousin and there has been and we've spoken about this in previous session that the brain or the mind heart coherence so it's not just the mind saying it but the heart is with it the emotion carries it remember the emotion is like i like the wings that will carry this there have been times where i can say and i'm sure each and every one of you that some things have happened in life that we've said that

some say that this is going to that this will happen and it has unfolded and happened and this is why you know that that hadith has always kind of it's it's been like this this ringing in my head and it will appear on occasions where i found myself we all of us at times in life we may have these moments of and a person says something they say to

themselves or they say in front but it's to themselves and they for some reason put an oath to it and then it happens it even though at the time one could think how is this gonna happen you know you've said an oath but how is this gonna happen but this hadith people this this is why you know in in urdu there is a saying as well that him

that it's about and that's about willpower even though it's using martha about men but it means that's just it means anyone it means women as well that if there is that will then god shows away i thought this was really important to share because of um i just thought because of the time of year to i don't know realign our script sha allah make things easy for each and all bless you all right let's move on people so

let me have a little bit of a drink take a look at uh god i've ha what time is it i want to share so much right so what is going on people must like i had a poem for you people you know what didn't i say sajad i was gonna dedicate a poem to sajad for his super chat much love uh i do have a poem somewhere one second and let's let's find it

let's i have a few lying around sad below it yeah much love to you may allah bless you keep you smiling seriously you i get embarrassed honestly i do um shook him for the super chat and what's i don't know if i'll get to meet you in this life of course you'll get to meet me what are you talking about i tell you we

will certainly meet insha'allah but i hope that you will we will meet here in this world ugly about cutler you're speaking about the next world we will meet here i'm not sure exactly which continental country you're in but drop me a message i will as well at some point you know what maybe i'll travel maybe you'll travel maybe we'll both travel to a different place who knows where and where what risk and what landscape is destined for us who knows

here's a poem people by nasser kazmi it's an epic poem so you know this isn't honestly honestly few things really pluck up my poetry is one of those things that is truly is a virtual companion in life seriously that's what i can say he says patarbana he says it turned me to stone

did not allow me to lose a tears that your sorrow your melancholy your ham ram is an arabic word used so much in urdu that your hum it didn't even allow me to to soak my and the diamond is is like the front cloth and the reason they would use it often in urdu poetry it's from a farsi word and they would use it metaphorically to

mean a person it could mean their honor their chastity it could mean it could mean many things of value but here in the sense of crying you kind of soak it because you're crying excessively that's a common trope in urdu poetry i wonder this being dedicated uh to sajad i wonder who which aryan should we say that they're losing

their sleep over you [Laughter] you have to you have to go gentle on people you have to go gentle on the gentle hearts right so he says that the lonely are the kind of loneliness that it would ask me about you that you remember remembrance would not even let me fall asleep

that the the waves of tears came and just sat in my eyes that it did not allow my eyelids to weave any dreams look at the use of of kind of language

ah he says that the heart it valued your tears your your sorrow that it didn't allow for any other pain to preoccupy the heart and he he seals the poem poet legend he says

wow let me repeat that to you his or her memories whoever he's speaking about their memories this is how they went in a way that it held tightly my hand fear or is of life it didn't allow me to get lost

that i walked through that life is like a fear a we call it a fear or a festival a carnival that so much is happening noise entertainment rides sails laughter singing music this is the world mela and we in this dunya are just crossing through it that's what we're doing and you can imagine the distractions you're walking through a

carnival and somebody's shouting and somebody and and before you know it you're lost you're like where the hell am i where do those people go which which way is the exit and he's saying look how your memories that he your says were such that they guided me through this festival through this carnival by holding firmly my hand not allowing me to get lost with the distractions of

this world honestly i find that so so profound read poetry you know if you get a chance read a bit whatever language you read it in it will change your life honestly and it will add so much more nuance and flavor to your world

wow gold globe guys let's share a a story from the seer of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam okay now this is about a this is about a companion of the prophet sallallahu alaihi

and one of the sahaba and his name is abu sufyan but you know when we say abu sufyan what comes to mind often is abu sufyan um [Music] you know from bani umayya the father of and abu his name is like the popular abu sufyan so usually when people say abu sufyan they think straight away of of him um however that's not the only i mean there were other abu sufyans and this abu sufyan is one that maybe many of us are not

familiar with and this is why it's worth sharing abu sufyan ibn okay who was he he was the cousin of the prophet salallahu actual cousin so the prophet's father abdullah has several brothers like abu talib for example whose son is ali so he's the cousin of the prophet another uncle is like abbas hence abdullah ibn abbas is the cousin of the

prophet and another uncle was hari once again and his people say the eldest son was abu sufyan many people have said that was his actual name but that's what he was predominantly known by and some people have given a name they said maybe it was maybe something else but really he's just known as abu sufyan he was a very similar age to the prophet salallahu some say an equal age if not born in the same year give or take he was very

um very close and then not just with age he actually as a child would play with the prophet him he was a child same kind of infancy they both were given to halima from banisa the um the the the kind of foster mother of the prophet sallam who nursed the mother as who nursed the prophet sallallahu alaihi as a as an infant when she nursed him she also had with him was abu sufyan ibn hadith

so he would he went with the prophet so you can imagine since kids now think back to your childhood i don't know if any of you are still in touch with some of your friends from when you were four years old i mean especially i mean if you're at least if you're of some age i mean if you're only 10 then that's not that doesn't count so think back i i actually have some friends that i'm still in touch with very close friends one of them blindy such if you're watching this jio meritan so we've been friends since we were literally four or five

now think back to that kind of age this is the time that you you have this special kind of this bond magical bond almost children imagination creative play running around and then the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam grows up with abu sufyan and check this out he resembles the prophet sallallahu alaihi resembles him so many people will say that which of the people resembled physically the prophet so people say

jaffar jaffar is also the cousin of the prophet he's the son of abu talib the brother of ali or the illinois so some people say jaafar some people say later on after the prophet his grandson hassan uh radhila an uh had a lot of similarity to the prophet but somebody in his lifetime another person his cousin they say resembled him quite a lot an amazing remarkable similarity so you've got two in their childhood two people growing up

they've got this bond this friendship they do things together they play they go on the little adventures together all of this happening and your cousins and you look similar and remember they are from a a noble clan of bani hashim you know so there's that general respect people show you respect now all of this and as they grow into young men abu sufyan and the prophet have a very close bond friends often will do things together abu

sufyan really has a gift of poetry as he kind of grows into a young man and he often he would charm the prophet sallam you would he would say poetry for him he would say to people as well general poetry and he was and he was somebody that had of a kind of stature amongst uh amongst makkah he was he was kind of known for you know somebody could hold his kind of ground and and he was charming and he was eloquent and and he would do things often like the if he went somewhere he'd come back bring gifts for the prophet the prophet saw

would bring gifts for him they had this this bond perceptibly imperishable that's how strong it was now what happens is the prophet alaihi sallam at the age of 40 receives revelation everything starts to change and it becomes a very troubling time for the prophet salallahu because people your near and dear start to turn their

back on you well this is something that it's unimaginable and in many ways the prophet sallam went through this so he could set out an example for us allah because why because we in life will face tragedies it is we will face our own trauma we will face our own struggles our own

challenges our own hurdles so you have the best of examples laid out for you in many ways one could see it as this was destined that the prophet had to go through suffering so as to leave for us an imprint that we could follow

amongst the people that turn their back on the prophet is now the prophet finds himself incredibly lonely with a few people and then he starts to get victimized and persecuted and people start attacking him and at times they're not physically attacking him because he's still related to different people within makkah but they're making life hard and they're insulting him and sometimes they physically attack the prophet islam and everybody knows what happens in mecca

in those 13 years but abu sufyan ibn al-harit he doesn't just withdraw from the prophet and turn his back on him he turns that energy that passion that love that he had he turns it against the prophet he starts to say poetry insulting the prophet hurting him when the prophet was down when he was beaten by people

remember the incident of life happens the prophet is attacked he's they they hurt him he's pleading in these in these years in these months in in this this time of of despair and darkness for anyone else and for the prophet finding himself alone without support he loses abu talib he loses people that were kind of support mechanisms for him you see this person who once was a near and dear friend you know that people could say yeah what

a friendship that person is there to to add insult to injury he would chant he would gather people together sharden freida take you know this shout you know one is when you are going through a difficulty in life somebody takes pleasure in it

there is a word for this in arabic called shamatha in english we borrow the german word shard and fruit this is a disease that people have that they find pleasure in the suffering of someone but that shamatha that that person is experiencing it adds so many layers of pain to the one who is going through those difficulties

and may allah you know make it easy for everyone that is going through difficulties and the best of creation the prophet sallallahu alaihi islam in his most vulnerable years he loses his his soul companion his wife khadija radhila his source of comfort his source of you know that person that tells you you've got this loses her he loses his social comfort and security you know you have sometimes people they

they have your back like that that guy what a guy you know like abu talib was that person for the prophet he passes away all these tragedies are going on physical being attacked and then and physical is not the worst mental emotional and this person who was your one of your best the closest of friends is there to insult you and and really revel and take delight in your suffering and laugh and

hold gatherings saying ha ha with this eli he was eloquent really hurt the prophet salallahu now what happens is the prophet moves to medina and years past and and it is the time of the f of makkah so it hasn't yet happened it's about to have the news has spread that the prophet is coming to makkah that he this news has spread the prophet hasn't yet arrived but people would spread news and they

would say that you know this is going to happen he lives in mecca his wife says to him that what is wrong with you she says he is your cousin he was at once he was once your best friend the world as in people from the world have seen him with his character and what he is as a messenger of god

they have managed to accept this what is wrong with you you know some you know let me tell you something sometimes when somebody that is within that zone of proximity to you says something like this and you don't expect it your defense is not up it hits you i mean it hits you like tyson going in because you it's in a point where you're not defensive that you yourself become embarrassed of yourself

he has this moment of ah like he feels like he you know they say like in urdu there's an idiom that you that apni nasrum that you fall in your own sight that you fall from grace but in your own sight he has this moment and he thinks you know what i'm gonna fix this and i'll tell you something that's interesting yeah he thinks i've heard he that the prophet has left from medina but he hasn't yet reached it's going to take let's say it's going

to take a good few days to get to makkah because they stop on the way he says you know what i'm going to reach him and it's me it's it's his cousin it's his bestie you know when we look back in our memories let me tell you something from psychology point of view so let's psychologize this when we think back about other people we think back often about the good things we've done for them see our memory doesn't show us or put to

the forefront how bad we've been it shows us how good we've been to them like we are aware that we may have been bad as well but it kind of creates an imbalance psychologically like we think yeah yeah yeah it's me uh we've got we've got plenty of love between us so he thinks to himself you know what i i i've heard so he says i'm going to go out to the prophet i'm going to go there so he asks and people tell him that the

prophet is going to stop is where the prophet's mother is buried radially and on root the prophet would usually stop there just to pay his respects and people would settle so he hears this he takes his son java and he says i'm gonna go so he goes there and he's hiding because he doesn't want remember he's one of the arch enemies of the prophet he used to attack him used to so if imagine somebody sees him they could think oh my god we've got a you know we've somebody's come here he's come here to try to assassinate the prophet so they may

you know they may kill him immediately or at least wound him injure him whatever so so he goes there kind of all disguised and takes his son and he tells himself that you know when the prophet's gonna see me he's gonna be so happy completely forgetting all these years almost 20 years of causing suffering to the prophet two decades

he turns up and he's in disguise and he waits for the prophet the prophet salallahu comes out he stands there and he removes his his kind of face covering the prophet salallahu this is completely unexpected just seize him for a moment

and then just turns his face and goes he's abusive he's shocked that what i thought he's got the prophet's gonna be thrilled it's me his body since we yeah we were like four years old he thinks did he see me did he recognize it's me so he goes after the prophet again and he kind of jumps in front of him at a place where the prophet goes and stands so he kind of goes stands in front of him very clearly this time

it's me abu the prophet looks at him and they have this eye contact you know the as it said the eyes are the window to one soul it's amazing what the eyes convey they convey happiness they convey desire they convey fear they convey

despair they convey sorrow and sadness he saw in that moment in the prophet's eyes the hurt that the prophet felt by looking at him all those memories of this person hurting you in that glance they came to him he could see that my very presence

the pain and the hurt it's causing so he's kind of confused he he's kind of recognized now he's kind of woke up from his he being deluded in thinking the prophet is going to be over the moon but on the same hand he feels that look i real like but i've i'm in the wrong i get i'm in the wrong but what do i do now so he goes to a waka radhilan he asks abu bakr that look can you do

something our worker says they say leave me out of it it goes to omar omar says this this is it's between you is between the prophet he goes to abbas his uncle the prophet's uncle and he says to him that look uncle yam he says can you do something can you speak to the prophet and and he says look uh he says i can't

you can try or just let things unfold so he hangs around he's hanging around so the prophet hasn't but the prophet did not say anything to harm him the prophet did not instruct anybody to harm him this is very important you know people that say the prophet salallahu would you know people have this kind of opinion of the prophet clearly in his seerah you see the rahmah but he was hurt now when he settles with like because he

he just stays with the people he's got his son with him one of the ansar realizes the story they've realized oh isn't that guy abu sufyan and they realize hmm he walked up to the prophet the prophet kind of froze but then just walked off so he starts to he starts to kind of um he starts to verbally abuse abu sufyan ibrahim like he starts saying things taunting him and saying things and sometimes like when he'll go he starts throwing stones at him and so abu sufyan is in a bit of a like he

doesn't know what to do so he's he sees ali a couple of days later and he asks ali look can you intervene and do something and ali says look i i can't he says that he says okay he says look i'm people have started to harass me and then ali asks him why would people harass you and he says look he says some of these guys he says they're actually harassing me he says like what are they doing he says they abusing me they're throwing stones at me they're doing things then satan ali says to him that okay that i we will handle because look that

is unacceptable and sedna ali goes to the person he tracks this person and he and he says to him he says listen he says the prophet may be hurt by him but he is the cousin of the prophet and his long childhood friend he says in no time the prophet will open his doors of love for him so if you harm him now just think when the prophet finds out how offended he's going to be so and and this you see the wisdom of saying in being so very real

you know this is the thing because in life it's not a fairy tale a person has to be real and that no iman just he kind of just he he kind of refrains from further harassing him so time goes by now okay time goes by fato makkah happens you know when the fatah makkah happens um the family of abu sufyan ibn harithar in makkah they come to the prophet because the his cousins as well they're all related here the wife as well she said see this further softens the heart you know what

it is it's not the prophet had not said anything to abu sufyan but the point here is understanding that look when you hurt someone and you physically and verbally and emotionally abuse them for not just weeks or months years on end decades you know as an insane it's not easy just saying okay i'm sorry and the other person they haven't done anything to you but for them to say okay clean slate it's hard

it's hard that person's soul and strength died before them and you laughed this is hard so now the prophet is with the family of abu sufyan and you can imagine obviously there's that love these things things are softening now what happens this is a lesson in what follows eventually people the prophets the companions they leave makkah they go then this everybody's heard of the battle of honey now in the battle of hunain as it's mentioned in the quran as well that

allah says do you not remember because in the battle of hunain the the people i believe the tribe of hawazin but they had laid a trap and the muslims get startled and they all pull back they they kind of like scatter and they leave the prophet exposed the prophet does not retreat see now this is another thing the prophet was never a person of this kind of war war kind of like like people say like war monger or somebody war hungry he was never like that

but when pushed to it he stood his ground he was not somebody you could just push over but he was not an aggressive person in fact the descriptions many of the descriptions mentioned in the battle of hunain he was on a bala which is a mule not even the other kind of horses so it's in between horse but the prophet stood his crown now the people saw that the prophet is exposed so they were rushing this was their chance to just this is it go in full force at this time you can imagine obviously

that's the whole the terror of what's happening sudden every second counts a few people were there standing with the prophet salallahu and you have people you have a worker you had ali radhila and i believe omar abbas was there but remember you've got hundreds coming just a handful of people and the prophets exposed at this point abbas is trying to he is with the prophet with his horse and somebody else comes and they have the horse of the prophet and they're moving it to this side and they're defending the prophet passionately

vehemently you've got a break with such courageous bravery and strategically moving it they're taking this action doing and the prophet is amazed and and he says to abbas he says and this person is saving the life of the prophet and the prophet looks and he says who is that

because people would often be masked and they had like a helmet on he removes it and it's him and the prophet looks at him and he says he says truly says truly my brother this moment you know just hearing that it fills abu sufyan ibrahim with so much joy those words and it's not just the words you know it's not it's the sentiment you know the emotion what leaves the heart it hits the heart

that sentiment and energy was enough to have him charged for the rest of his life he that battle is obviously over and in the rest of the years that were left in medina he was there side by side often with the prophet he learns the quran he was somebody that would teach his arabic was so epic as it was he goes on to teach the quran to people when the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam passes away he said one of the

most beautiful poems dedicated what they call in arabic aritha as a eulogy to the prophet he says in it he says that he says and i i can't seem to go i can't seem to find sleep and my night just doesn't end and he says in the night of achill the one who has a calamity

indeed he says our tragedy and trauma was so intensified on the evening that we heard the cry that the messenger has been taken and it goes on and it's such a beautiful kind of poem and he lives after uh several years after the prophet sallallahu alaihi islam often found to be in prayer

or teaching the quran or reciting the quran honestly and he's such a pleasant personality and when he was past when he was on his death bed i did bring here some if i bring this back there was when he's on his ba death bed he he's actually he says to his family

he says that i he says what are you guys so upset about since i embraced islam i never caused anybody any harm i never did any wrongdoing imagine that being able to yeah i haven't heart you know to cause people hurt and harm like he feels that he says i haven't done any since i embraced so he says kind of rejoice like this has been a an amazing amazing life turn around and i lived it with joy and he was he was somebody well

remembered and often people would say even till the end that he resembled physically the prophet sallallahu a story of somebody who begins with so much joy like you see flashbacks like you pause that at his deathbed and i believe he's buried in uh in bhakti uh outside in madina you you take flashbacks of his life as a child growing up with the prophet playing living for whilst he did for those years with halima growing up into a young boy young man

a strong man all this bond of friendship and then these years of enmity that put them on opposing conflicting paths where he's spread all this hurt and hatred towards the prophet but then turning his life around you see changing that script seizing that opportunity but here the other important lesson is sometimes words are not enough see if you've caused somebody a lot of harm in life or hurt

even if it's unintentional this is a lesson for all of us if we've done that remember words can be sometimes cheap they can be you know maybe okay they do in his case he said he accepted islam which is wonderful it's amazing and the prophet never had any vengeance towards him but he was hurt so he follows it by action allah when the prophet found himself in a time of distress he's the first there

there there is just something about coming to the aid of a person in distress that totally changes everything in relation to you and them in life so that's another valuable lesson in life like for us maybe we can see that maybe at times we've just said words words are cheap maybe we can do things maybe we can actually we can bring action to the table so yeah and and then he ends his life as somebody who is so dedicated and this person that just goes around with

positivity the quran and always preoccupied with the quran teaching learning and that's what he seals his life and i thought this honestly i i i i thought this is such a story and to to share at this time of the year about people's decisions and how they change their lives sometimes decisions take them down a dark road like with abu suffices but then just like that he changes his script and he becomes

this beam of hope and light for islam people may allah always allow us to be inspired and spread these stories of love and compassion [Laughter] it's our it is a legacy it's truly a rich legacy and it's it's fun to share it it's fun to share it guys let me see some of your comments i've we've gone on quite a while what i'll do is i'll share the [Music] right i just saw a comment somebody's saying somebody is trolling um if anybody's trolling just just block

them okay so to the mods if anybody trolls just plop it's not a there's no you don't need to show so much leeway for them that's it it's as simple as that if they're being rude if they're being uh if they're trolling just block them sometimes in life you have to have that approach right so what's going on sajad saying shukran much appreciated i gotta go we'll catch up later sure

somebody said he was talking about abu sufyan uh so let me just first of all block you for not paying attention i i constantly said abu safyan ibrahim the cousin of the prophet exactly so next time pay attention because see now you just you see you obviously for whatever reason you let's say you have a hate towards abu sufyan which is which is the father of mawia and now because of that you didn't allow your heart did not allow you

to embrace what is a beautiful story of the cousin of the prophet look at that that's true deprivation now this is my point you see the energy you have in life that's what you will attract even if greatness is coming your way you'll miss it [Laughter] you won't look out the window and see the view you'll just see the specs on the window and the stains and be like oh what's that that's that's the problem you know it's like you need to you need to open yourself up for light and and good

things will come let me share the link out clear and shook much love dearly appreciate love the way you tell these stories i i appreciate that i appreciate that um we don't need these haters here we don't need haters you know what this life's too short to be full of hate even i get it people hate other people but that's their problem you know it's their problem

yeah let's put this link out there you get this copy this link somebody said where can we read up on these yeah ibn kathie does have it many people have it this is in fact if you if now that i've told you the name abu suff even if you google it it will come up stories will come up and a few different um maybe for example you can kind of patch together

um right let's see right sabine i want to know what what is it that you want to know i must have missed the question what what the hell was that like ah what's that like is this that uh i don't know whether that's a a cat or a is it a gin [Laughter] right so let's share the link let's get people

mufti saab are you planning on bringing juan cole or sean anthony to mine trap i would love to are you in touch with any of them if you are do ask them i always say that look try to if people are interested and interesting then it's that's it so if they're interested in coming to the show then let's do this yeah ah all right so where are we at people let me have a sip of water and let me see how much of the show has been bloody hell i don't know what creatures

these are good thing i'm not for demonic possessions otherwise i'd be freaked out thinking no i got this water and i just ended up getting hooked on it i should shouldn't be advertising them unless they're sponsoring me but girl one then yeah new year's yeah but yeah i mufti would you want to talk to a satan satanist satanist am i reading that right right there

satanist on mine trap um is it academic or is it just it could be interesting i tell you what reach out to me let me know who are they interesting are they just like i'm just a satanist and just thick in all the wrong ways so i don't want if somebody's interesting as in they are they they have some form of experience they want to talk about and we can ask them and they're intelligent and they can hold a good conversation

then okay put me in touch let's see um although that's not on my top agenda i will i have a few mind traps lined up because the purpose of mind trap is to really provide discussions that can kind of stimulate people intellectually and satanism isn't really that interesting to be honest but um yeah you can put me in touch personally and maybe i can quiz them and ask them and if it's some if i think there's some kind of academic like maybe they've got a phd in satanism i doubt it

but let's say that would um okay well maybe we could talk about that right so jordan peterson oh my god that that i would love that uh maybe now that jordan peterson is talking to more and more muslims then maybe at some point he'd be like yeah yeah mufti don't worry [Laughter] yeah it's just that i don't think i'm i don't have an audience like him because i think people he would want people that are like really have like a strong following and like they have like

i don't know half a million followers on their thing so well but i i do love jordan peterson for his i learned so much from him honestly i i from him and he's definitely a gem in our times it doesn't mean you have to agree with everything but he is a gem i've i've heard several of these things and i think some of them they could be that they are a must for anybody that wants to be a student or philosophy or a student of

um academic religion in this day and age somebody said what are the canadian mountain fans doing get on it folks hell yeah look at that darth vader tell him yeah that's it somebody said i can't send a super chat no no problem just send your question i'll try and see what the question is jeffrey lang is anybody in touch with jeffrey lang i would love to have him on um [Music]

mufti you have a strong following of course you know we the thing is this we just set our eyes on the destination the path is beneath our feet and it will always continue to unfold people will join the caravan along the way well that's the more the merrier but it's never the objective the objective is the destination that's how that's how i see this

i did speak to both of them previously mustafa keal did say to me at the time look right now he had a bunch of stuff and he did say it would be interesting at some point to do it which is which is sure fine sounds good dr khalid i did i think would be wonderful but i'm not sure if his health permits him um if it does speak to him say to him that it would be great if he feels that you know sometimes i think um if they because i i just think a discussion would be wonderful with somebody like that

and yeah maybe if he prefers i don't know if he has a podcast i don't think he does but if he does have one and he prefers that i talk to him on his that's fine as well i don't it doesn't have to be mine trap it's just minecraft is a um it's a judgment-free zone you know you can come on there and talk and the audience i have will not judge you will not kind of i suppose one could say that about other platforms as well sure

[Laughter] you know i did message and he did message me saying that yeah sure he that sounds good about doing a mind trap again i messaged him i think just probably before christmas or something and he did say that sounds good and he i think so i'll follow up i'll follow up with that

uh these are all very awesome names but yeah i think actually these uh i'm not in touch i don't think i'm in touch with him i have been in touch with him in the past but if anybody's in touch sure ask him that that would be great um and yes of course these i will be having uh these guys back on as well soon very soon inshaallah so alright mahdi sajid yes of course these are amazing people i've got to have them

back guys let's right so ah shall we proceed to are we awake at us which reminds me you know what let's share a little story

and then we'll then we'll go on to the link divine providence people divine providence why do we think why do we think this is definitely worth a reminder it always is because sometimes we have to make choices and certain choices have value judgments and there may be personal value judgments but we may be taking a loss like a person may think you know i don't want to do this because i feel compromised or i feel you know i just don't really like my heart is in this passion but

um you know i could take that this job where i just work in this whatever it is i could work in a warehouse so i could work some or i could follow my you know my inspiration and do this but i don't know and this discussion of tawakkul in light of that let's share a story

guys let me introduce you to on momento esperanza right so here we have because i like introducing characters and personalities that you guys can remember so al mazzini so in this story of al masani and divine providence people and just this is this point of tawakkul there will be certain names who is the caliph those of you that remember we've previously spoken of um

[Music] we've got a whole episode on almo his older brother was al worthy and we spoke about if you haven't watched that episode you can watch it and about the love story with and all the politics and drama that go on with but before he gets instated as caliph it is unworthy so there was you've got um it begins with amin after harun rasheed we've gone over it there you've got amin moon and they destroy everything fighting each other and then moon and you have the the

inquisition begins about the quran is it created that's with mahmoud only lasts a couple of months he passes away it's his other brother or muhammad almighty and after him puts his kids and remember we mentioned that in the mutual history that he decides to put them one after the other his sons so he says but when comes he kind of says ah i might as well forget my brother musta and then he begins all the politics with his kid al muntasir and the others and all that drama you can check it out if you haven't watched it but

is in this story of ours today he's he's slightly there he comes up um anyone else um jared the poet those of you that remember um you guys remember jillian the two great rival poets are always cursing each other that's a name that might come up so these are some characters i'll i just mentioned that so when they come up you think ah right so abu uthman al-mazini another person coming up civil way remember we spoke about siboway and kassai and the whole uh the story of the wasp and all of that

yeah so abu uzman al-mazini is a famous grammarian he is a student of the student of civil way so he in his day and age he's in basara he's one of the most prominent grammarians in his time uh he teaches people the book of sibling he's learned it from for the for the grammar buffs out there uh just so you know kitab of siboway siboway's book in arabic which is also known as the quran of grammar quran it is just referred to as the book so in arabic if you say al-kitab and

i mean people do use al-kitab for the quran as well but if you talk if you're talking about a book an actual like a person's book it is kitab of sibo now just think of that huh that's your legacy that your book is referred to as the book so al-kitab it comes to it comes to us

is the only guy that really transmits al-kitab and so yeah he teaches it to many people amongst them about manila mazani who's a famous grammarian has his own kind of ichthy harding grammar and sometimes very harsh by the way as well he's um he's criticized some of the you know the recitations of the quran as well see so sometimes you know this is another interesting point we ca we don't understand the complexity of characters because if i told you that

abu uthman al-mazzani he criticizes nafiya who transmits the quran in madina he's the you know he's also um he teaches many people including imam malik he's not the other from the mata but he's not that the about him that he didn't even know arabic he says that his arabic is so poor this is why he made grammatical mistakes in his recitation which is today one of the main recitations read in morocco in other parts of the world so so now you could hear that and think oh

my god abu as man almazin he must be some kind of a heretic but as weird as that kind of statement of his is and i think that statement is harsh i i don't i don't agree and i and i don't condone that kind of you know just because he disagrees with your school of basra grammar you consider him his arabic to be illegitimate i think that's like way too extreme but abu usman al-marzini in his own way he is dedicated to the arabic language and he is doing a service see each person is doing their own

service and by extension their personal commitment to god you know that that you could be a carpenter and you could think well i do this properly and this is i'm dedicated to god in it and he's dedicated to the arabic language to the extent that he's going to knock qura and whatever but still

so he's going through so abu ufman al-masini he's struggling financially okay and he's got he's got a daughter to take care of and he's he's a teacher he teaches arabic but it's not really paying well and and he's not really pain it's not really paying too well and along comes suddenly an opportunity one day but check this out some people come to him and they want to study [Music]

the quran no sorry not the quran the kitab of cebu way because that opens up for them the arabic language but the problem is these people were slightly islamophobic in his day in his day and age as well remember there were people that were non-muslim like ahludhimma that lived as well and they were free to contrary to how people think they had enough freedoms they weren't persecuted for not being muslim and stuff and some other and they could obviously speak arabic and and some of them at times were curious they would get into debates with muslims and some of them would want to you know maybe they would kind of in their own

they wouldn't openly swear and things like but they would in their own way kind of belittle and deride and mock and do things so somebody comes to him and they offer him to teach them the kitab of siboway because that would make them the dawn of the arabic language and authority but they kind of slightly islamophobic now abu uthman al-mazzani is in a predicament because they say we will pay you a hundred things hundred gold pieces now he is struggling

and he has a daughter to take care of and he refuses and you know when he refuses his student who's also very famous in grammar known as says i said to him that why he says for god's sake if not for you for the love of your child you know do it for her and he says that i would do it but there in the kitab of siva way

there are at least 300 verses of the quran and he says that you know i he says i just can't bring my heart to it that the attitude these guys have fair enough it's just the kitab of sibo way and they may do their thing but the verses of the quran i just can't bring my heart around to it and this is a bit of an emotional stance for him and people could disagree with it they could say well i don't think there's a problem with doing it but it was his choice in life and the point is at times in life we may find our heart somewhere maybe other

people think now you're not being reasonable whatever but it's their choice and it's a value and he made a decision and he said that look i i just feel that you know the book of allah i just can't do it and it's this place of love that this decision is coming from so he leaves it and he turns his back on a hundred gold pieces thinking of at the same time his daughter

who he you know it doesn't really have a surplus of food and stuff whilst this is going on let's pause that put it aside let's skip scenes people let's go to from basra to baghdad in the royal courtyard no shortage of cash no shortage of gold allah how the lord divides with provisions huh but he divides to test us i guess how do we act when we have certain things in the royal palace

is the caliph bella the son of al-martazim and he's got a majlis a methyl a special gathering which is the usual where you have the singing dancing girls and you have your crowd and people are in a vibe and they're chilling and they they're loving it things are bliss allah blissful and blissful so whilst this is going on

the singing girl so they've got this singer this dancing girl she's a concubine the good old days where they had these these kind of talented concubines that so she's singing poetry so while she's singing this poetry she says the lie she says the couplet she says the loom is the person is addressing he's actually addressing this woman but

he's calling us whether that's her name or whatever he says adalumo this is for the grammar buffs out there as well check this out it says you know there was a time on earth where despite the opulence despite the wealth

maybe the wine despite the dancing girls despite the concubines what was preoccupying the thoughts of the people was why was the word in the acute accusative case why was it man soup why is it that she said innamosa kum raju lan and she didn't say rajulun [Laughter]

you know people have their own funder which they which they fall in love with so the people in this gathering get they start arguing they go yeah the concubines can wait the the chill can wait the majlis can wait

why is it not it why is it not innamous so they disagree amongst themselves so they start so some of them say to her that some of them say no it makes sense but it's then in that case it should be musabukum it's musabakum

the others say is correct because it's it should be rajulun so they say [Laughter] that's what they say so get your act together that they say to you you're reading this wrong mm-hmm

arabic must be on point huh after all you're performing in the royal court royal audience the arabic grammar should be on point she says she's no less far the day and age where where the singers and the concubines they they they were fine cultured more educated than today's kind of master ma level she says she says i'm not budging an inch no es possibly she says that this this is how this is

correct this is how i was taught it she says i learned this from my teacher she said i went and studied poetry i'm not might be a concubine but i'm educated someday janam sanjaka so they go look listen you made a mistake she says that is impossible because my teacher is a legend he's rated so they go rate it who's your teacher she goes

so the caliph now worth it is sitting there well i think obviously king caleb he's like what's going on like think about it you're the king of the entire now check out look at look at the entire muslim world look at all of that red is you're the king of that yeah these are his gold coins

even you don't know how this arabic you can't explain it it's a bit embarrassing isn't it and the slave girl she knows it see this is why take your education seriously people [Laughter] there may come a time where you can where kings will be perplexed in front of you so the king says you know what get find this abu uthman al-mazini and get him here we need to get to the bottom of this

what is this what is going on so abu usman al-mazini gets suddenly he gets a um he gets he gets these people soldiers turning up and they go we'd like you to come you've been summoned to the royal palace in baghdad obviously that's that's daunting for anyone come on you're a person a reasonably regular person soldiers have turned up to to summon you

it's like i don't know how this could end but you know the odds ain't looking pretty good so he says look okay i'm gonna go i'll go he says look let's go he turns up so he turns up and worth it asks him well i think says to him who are you introduce yourself to me so he says look i'm you know about earth man and he tells it he's he's kind of holding this up lineage or a certain amount of his kind of i'm from basra and this is where and he says oh you're from amazing but which mazin because there's different tribes of

mason there's amazing in banita meme there's a mazin in had a certain slang they would swap the ma with each other when they spoke so then al-wathik trying to i'm cultured he's he speaks to him in his dialect he's instead of asking him what's your name because this is a kunia bosman he says so instead of saying masmok he says basmukh because the ba and the ma is swapped by the mazin of

that tribe do this so basically he's trying to tell him look i know i'm cultured also so he says basmook so he's not his name is bakker by the way but he has to in his dialect he has to say makkah which means deception so he's thinking i don't want to say deception to the caleb so he just replies with bakker and the caliph kind of clocks it immediately oh i get it because if he said makkah it would be disrespectful so he's straight away kind of in a moment slightly impressed with him he's like what a guy what a guy then he starts speaking to him he says

look listen did you teach this poem he says i did he says is that correct just like that he says it is he says because how do you explain it he goes is a master master is a verbal noun it's like in english i suppose you could use the kind of the gerund in saying like i'm not the general but the same proceed like as in sitting or

hitting or doing but then in english it could be confusing because the ink is also used for the active participle as in i am sitting but in arabic you have a verbal noun so in english we would just say we would just often use the infinite verb like to see to read to we just put two in front of it in arabic you use the verbal noun so you say kitaba you know writing or you'd say or sama or hearing or use the verbal noun he said this verbal noun is acting as a

verb as it does in arabic so if i said for example in that your hitting of zaid and then zaid becomes the object so inna musabakum rajulan so he says ah i get it and this verse by not verse this yeah this this verse of the poem is he's addressing the poet is addressing the woman

you afflicting a person a man ada a person that a man you afflicting a man who is only giving you salam is oppression so the poet has said that that's the meaning of the poem those of you that were wondering that that a man who rajulan added salam a person who is giving you salam being friendly but you are afflicting him and you know however this is so as the

so when he says this to worthy qatic is quite impressed he says ah okay i get it that's quite impressive indeed young man indeed so then he asks him he says to him that do you have any children he says i have a young daughter a little daughter he says ah and now remember he knows that i sent my soldiers of go find out his house and make sure you bring him and sometimes he knows how soldiers can be rough and a bit intimidating he says did she say anything when when you had when you came he says she did check this out his

daughter cremerian's daughter huh he says she said the line of the poet asha you know asha is a famous poet from before so asha on this particular time is setting off on a journey and he says he says my daughter said when i was about to go i see us and those who are orphans as equals

that oh father please don't go on this journey because we are safe as long as you don't go and then there's a line that he says asha says we fear that you will be kind of killed on this journey and then he says to his daughter so he said my daughter read this poem what a daughter when you're leaving she says it with

class she read the poem and he says and what did you say so asha he says i said his reply he says he says he says i said that asha says to his daughter that look is it that you fear i'm going to go traveling he says how many people are ruined their families get ruined but they are still fine

he says like i've traveled all these countries to oman homes jerusalem all these things and had all of and basically goes on to tell his daughter look relax everything is cool he says to worth it i i said this poem in turn to her and then i also read the line now check this he says i also read the line of jaree i said this is the poem you know when we began the story i i said and then i said

are you sober or is your heart intoxicated this is a a poem from jared he says it to abdul malik and in it along the way he says this line because he says uh that um because he says i told my wife my wife told me go you know we need basically we we're gonna perish we need maybe the caliph can help us and he says i said to her

have faith in god you know there is none other than god and maybe we will find some success with the caliph so he says i said this and when he said it worth it kind of smiles obviously is the caliph and he says that indeed he says you will find naja and he says bring him a thousand golden pieces and he says so and he says to him that make sure you know you spend them on your daughter as well and he goes off from the obviously so happy

everything went excellent no danger and he comes back and and he says you know he meets abu uh abbas student in like the next day and he's like oh wow you made it safe and and he says to his student and friend you know mubarak he says hey he says it was only the other day that you know because of our choice my passion my value i and my kind of my belief where i put it he says i've refused a hundred gold pieces but i did it in my way in a commitment

to god and he says and god gave me a thousand golden pieces that i couldn't have seen coming and such is people that providence in a way like we don't know sometimes sometimes we could be struggling financially sometimes we could be things could be up and downs things could be and you don't know and it's sometimes the worst time to be helping other people or doing something and and you do it and and then allah showers from the unexpected all of a sudden this money comes in that money comes this is a lesson

in tawakkul and risk divine providence and it's definitely an interesting story so i thought let's share it why not guys let's move on i've shared the link oh i haven't right sorry my part there you go i've shared the link let's get some of you on here and then we'll wrap this up oh there it is the link's been shared it's in the comments right my people now you've had enough stories tonight what the hell what okay we got a better

there you go i've shared the link before the 1000 coins i don't know what that means but yeah so people what is going on i'll all right let me i forgot my ah should i go for the should i go for these should i go for or shall i connect my earpods my airpods style people's people

rather i am impressed with these by the way the oh my god the noise cancellation is this next level right let me just go into bluetooth settings and make sure um can where is this uh right can i connect let's see let's see if that connects if it doesn't connect okay this seems to be connected

ah i heard that let me just go into audio and just check um gotta change this to earpods okay i can hear that good test let's just close this okay so we've got um

mahmoud we had a mahmoud just as he just disappeared okay he's disappeared should put the link back out there all right we've got a darth how's it going uk it's going well alhamdulillah good good what's what's going on

where are you joining us from uh i'm from the northwest at the moment i've ride so uh near bolton okay bolton sharif so let me just yeah so all right so what's going on what's on your mind what share some thoughts i've got actually a few questions okay if i've got time we'll go through a few but if not then one will also show sure let's let's let's see sure go for it

right so basically i'm i'm looking into um like familiarizing myself with quran and the stories um and what was going on in the prophet's life so i want to take a different look at it instead of just reading the quran as it is reading the quran yeah yeah some might think it's blasphemous but you know right so basically right um the quran was obviously revealed um right

or verse by verse it could be just verses it doesn't have to be entire well i don't know i think it may have been um you know chapter by chapter but it could be verse by verse i don't know um obviously i'm just looking into this so um i was hoping you could provide me with some information actually um so i googled you know obviously order of revelation um and you know one or two websites came up um listing you know the order that they believe that the verses or the chapters were revealed

now do you have any information on how accurate and reliable that list may be um the the exact sequencing of each verse you mean yes yeah i think that would be quite difficult to be honest i think that's going to be quite a stretch to get that in yeah because i don't i think there will be obviously there will be a lot of um i mean there'll be like a rough um i don't know like a a mapping out of it so you could

understand that for example this was the first verse this may have been the last verse the early surahs these were makkan and this kind of came out in medina you may get some idea because they may be talking about incidents which you can link and kind of map them with anchors to you know like chronological anchors but then other verses exactly so for example did this verse come exactly before this one they both came in this kind of time in medina we don't i don't know i feel that would be really difficult because um in that sense if you if you're talking an exact

uh precise sequencing of the chronological order of each verse a to zed of the quran i don't think have you found something that said it's that only what i found online which is apparently you know official i don't know how accurate is um but i mean i find that a bit disturbing to be honest i would think you know we know all of these minor stories and little things about the prophet yet we don't know the order of revelation which was the most important

thing that he was here for okay sure but would you feel the the prophet salallahu was here for revelation or the order of revelation well because that might be would have been here completely different i think it's implied that if he's here for you know revelation oh what happened here sorry well if he's uh mostly thought this is a difficult question get rid of this guy i tried it i tried it so basically would it if the if his main objective was

was delivering the quran right then surely people would have documented it like you know when did this verse come out right i mean we get told about goats eaten like you know pages of the quran but we don't know the order of the revelation this is a bit like no no there's a difference i think in saying do we know the order and there's a difference in saying for example uh did they document the order like did they feel you see the order i think is interesting for for us because it it's because it's information about something

we're interested in so it's like saying um let's say you want to learn something about your grandparents now yes there's a thing about their life that everybody would know but there will be so many things that maybe for example you might ask your parents now oh so you know in that year when he was going to school would he what door would he go through or would he often do you know i don't like people don't to them that isn't the purpose of the narrative like so

you see the me to people revelation was important and the fact that it came down let's say with certain circumstances they were documented but let's say you're saying so we have the makkah we have the medinan we have these things we have other uh asparable nazor people will say look with this event or this surah came here or these akam came in this year they have that but if you're saying every single verse in an exact so we would say for example starting from eight to zero the quran this this we put a calendar date like a precise like let's say i know we're using just as an example let's just say

uh 23rd rajab uh this year uh 17 to this year 18 uh shaban this year you know like an exact calendar date with every single thing i don't think they would have done that because they wouldn't have seen why that was important they would have seen that the revelation is important but why is the date important well that gives you context of the prophet's lifestyle uh well not last hour but life what he went through when he went through it who was he talking to you know um so i think it's very important

do you know are you not concerned by that or i mean concern why i would agree with you that sure let's say they did let's say they did document it i think it would have been definitely very interesting in adding a nuance like so you could have a so for example we would have a nuance of saying well ah this is the precise date of this particular verse and it would give a little kind of a nuance to it but i don't think it would change the verse in any way it wouldn't change the meaning it wouldn't really alter and you have to remember look the arabs when this came the quran was

revealed to a people who were primarily defined as umi like they were not you see the scribes the academic today's word would be academic because today everybody reads and writes so to read and write is nothing special so today you'd be described as an academic like oh he's an academic he's doing a phd so it's not just he reads and writes but he's but in that day and age the if we want to use the word let's say we're borrowing the word academics it meant like people who were scribes that kept written records that was not mainly the arabs so the jewish people communities did that

the arabs generally were not so the prophet said in hadith that we generally you know we don't we have like an oral tradition and we don't keep counts of the dates like we will nasa what is this is why even with the wars and the dates like people when they narrate them they kind of you're gonna you're gonna get discrepancies people will say oh did this happen at this year or did it happen in that year and this is also why you have certain other mix-ups like for example when people even i think part of even the age of aisha is is mixed up like that as well although

there may be other reasons for that as well but so not documenting the dates the arabs generally were not documenting dates like that like they weren't like kind of writing like blogging diaries they weren't doing that so for them to just all of a sudden become scribes like it's it's not them like they were literally the way you know the closest this is not a good approximation it's a poor approximation but just to give you a little idea that in this day and age what you can relate to it's like the vikings that they just lived of like raiding other tribes and they

some only a few people cultivated land many of them still they may have hunted some of them did foraging some of them did hunter gatherers they raided they lived like a very that's what they weren't this kind of academic settled city folk kind of people so to say that oh they sh like they should have been all keeping diaries and keeping stuff i think it would have been obviously would have it would have given a nuance to us today but then there must have been a reason that they were the prime people that they needed that kind of maybe that is an essential part of their lifestyle

that kind of uh rigor i'm not actually like talking about specific dates here i'm just talking about order so we're not saying that i want to know did it was it revealed on the 16th of january how would you know that without having dates well you would know that wouldn't you like for instance um how like if you see you can only measure that chronologically

through time you could measure right like through calories the revelation would have occurred um during a certain time right so i don't think they were just random i think they were actually addressing people um yeah but yes but how would you you see how would you what would the markers be would they be just ordinal numbers or would they be in reference to a chronological time frame how would you what are the identity markers that you're thinking well if if we know a lot about the prophet's life then surely we would know when he said these things but how what would you use what words would you use to know what like are you

talking about calendar time frame are you talking about ordinal as in this is the first second third as in we're just going to have numbers or how what how are you no you said numbers wouldn't you so you wouldn't actually have data right okay so ordinal number ordinal numbers would never work because how would they because who would be teaching them the ordinary for instance we have been the prophet would say the story of the prophet started off at the cave right you know so let's say this six thousand two hundred verses so they would be saying for example this is today five thousand nine hundred and twenty seven

seventh everybody keep count of that this is but then everybody's not moving i'm not saying it's revealed verse by verse i'm saying it's revealed so you're only but they weren't revealed they were many were just verses and many of them by the way there's some verses came later in the surah so sometimes the prophet certain surahs would be completed later on like they would be there but then the completion to them or certain verses in them would be much later and they weren't revealed in like just so revelation was like let's say today you've got 114 of the quran

revelation was not 140 episodes sorry 114 episodes it was much more it was a span of 20 to 23 years so and not everybody if you say look one person is going to keep track people died along the way who is the who is going to be doing the because you know when you say this should it should be anchored you need a frame of reference to anchor it and that only frame of reference i can think of is a calendar but then they weren't people of calendars so the other frame of reference you're saying is like an ordinal counting system which is absurd because it

doesn't really it seems quite meaningless to say okay this is 2 376 everyone this is 3422 everyone this is like that that seems much more confusing than just saying this is in surah anfal that would be an easier way to do it because if you if we started counting verses by because there are thousands of verses 6 000 at least so 6200 plus so it's gonna be very confusing for people who don't count normally who are not like a i mean they do count but they're not a people of accounting so they're not like people that usually

they have counting but at a reasonably simple level like they will count in like how they trade and do things like maybe a hundred maybe in tens maybe in whatever but they're not going to be like 3722 keep that on a tab and you see it's easy for us we're we live in a digital age but they but i don't think i don't think there's any i i understand the interest but i don't think it's a concern because it doesn't compromise anything of the quran nothing of the quran is compromised no it doesn't compromise anything of the quran i'm just trying to understand what the prophet would have gone through for instance

why were certain uh you know surahs revealed at certain times and in the order so that you could see what the prophet was actually facing um so it's just a different angle of looking at or validating is that it didn't lock it then in its orbit and the quran then maintains its superpositions you see had have it done that maybe generations after may have locked the message of the quran that they may have then not you may not have had the freedom

to allow the quran to speak to you in its date in your day-to-day lives people may have said no tough they only came for this you can only in when you're feeling only that then refer to it you see the quran is kind of it's it's it's it has no lock on how it how you navigate through it i mean you could obviously you have guidance like you could take certain stories and and certain kind of verses and understand oh this when it's mentioning for example hernan we mentioned the battle of hunning today obviously that's talking about the battle of hunain you can see that but generally the message of the

quran in its for the most part it can have these superpositions to it like they could you know maybe you one day are reading and it means something hits you differently and another day you're reading it hits you differently but imagine for let's say for 1400 years everybody had locked it then today you and me may not have had that we may have been you know god knows how it may have come out in that case we may have been deprived today of that blessing so maybe that's a huge blessing that the quran is allowed to speak to you with dynamism

that you can come to it with your life and still it speaks to you and it doesn't have to be locked in its historicity it's it's a temporal and it's eternal in the sense that it's not locked it's timeless it's a better word timeless so verse by verse of revelation doesn't seem to make sense to me because if for instance if we're talking about like surah maryam right where it starts off talking about zakaria yeah what was it like oh no no it doesn't mean no it doesn't mean that yeah it doesn't mean no it doesn't mean how would it make sense to the audience what's going on sure not like that so

they were obviously there were many surah that there were there were certain especially the short ones that were all revealed together there were certain verses that were revealed together maybe let's say for example five verses got revealed here maybe that part of the story got revealed and the other parts were revealed later what i'm saying is it wasn't a surah surah as a as a chunk model that it wasn't that there's 114 surahs so revelation was 114 times but what it means is it was it was kind of spread out over 23 years now yes on certain occasions there were some soras that were revealed completely

especially the shorter ones another part but other times mainly there would be verses so maybe there's three verses one verse maybe 15 verses got revealed maybe obviously there's 6 000 plus verses to reveal now there's a lot of verses over you know uh two decades so yeah so that's how it is but it doesn't i i get what you're saying but i don't see as a um i mean i i understand that if we did have a detailed a chronological thing it may have i it would have definitely given us a nuance but i feel where we would have gained we may have lost

so we have now there are people claiming that we do know the order so um you know i just thought you might know if it's accurate and reliable to go by okay i'm not i'm not familiar i'm not familiar this was maybe my lack of knowledge i'm not familiar of an entire chronological sequencing of the quran i'm not aware that anybody has done that chronologically in the sense that they state every verse has a calendar date associated with it i've never heard of that to be honest but if somebody claims that they have that okay i don't think that that exists i've never read it in the books of in my learning but maybe if it if people claim that they have it i

see like let's say they claim they have it it still makes no difference like it they make a big difference no i mean the world like the quran is still there we're still taking our lesson i guarantee when you start reading them in chronological order you're going to have a very different appreciation for what how the events that the prophet had to go through of course of course no i'm not denying the study of the quran and obviously studying asbab is sure i understand i do also i'll instagram the link so you can check out and sure i mean we have yes you know this you have to understand this is called asparagus

we've studied this obviously we've studied it for years you can imagine right asparagus is what this is called the causes of revelation that's what they call it the the problem it is in the books of tafseer it's in every almost every book in fact many authors have just a book as well called us has one many other people the problem with asparagus is it's mostly not authentic but okay even then it gives a little flavoring and i i appreciate that but it's it's minimal it's like like the asparagus books will be small i mean it's not going to cover every verse of the quran in fact it won't even cover every surah of the quran it will just

cover like certain things oh this incident happened and then this verse was revealed and then it will be challenged somebody will say well actually no this happened and this verse revealed some people may say well maybe a verse was revealed on multiple occasions i don't know that's one or maybe these chains are all weak anyway and these people are not really reliable you've got obviously kelby and a lot of these people all these people doing the transmission you know suddenly and all these guys who are famous for asbab and resume i have no idea these names you're mentioning these are very popular very popular names they're like totally thrown out the window they're totally unreliable and many of them some of them are deemed

like liars as well always and others if not like lies they deem like really weak this so it's not that we haven't heard of us but and i think don't get me wrong i think it's good uh and i appreciate and i think anybody any study of the quran is always fascinating and so you mentioned which one would you recommend i go by [Laughter]

it's like a personal interest firstly that really the tavasira are only unavailable in english i'm sorry in arabic really you know of any true value no other stuff i see it or not they don't even really count i mean i don't know i've not maybe in urdu some because all those you know people have done a lot of work like so maybe in some islamic languages if i can call them islamic or muslim that that identify with the faith they've done a lot of work to translate but they're still not of the same like so in urdu you will find some tough series that are good but they still don't compare to even just like the average of seals in arabic just

because of the language barrier like you can't really because in arabic they're going to open up the arabic and they're going to say well this word could mean this this word could mean this and you can't really when you do that to the non-arabic speaking it's like they don't understand what you're saying so it doesn't really you're just kind of just waffling on because you're saying look oh in arabic grammar this could mean this and this subject here could be could mean this but the subject will also be the object which would also be in the genitive or the accusative and people are like what the hell is this guy even saying so whereas in arabic it makes sense so even today's kind of the story of abu usman al-mazini

that arabic poem that of the roman names that why was rajulin such a big deal and why were they saying it should be rajalon was a whole debate but in translating that you couldn't really translate it apar because it's not in the other languages so because most languages today don't have inflections so they don't the words don't change like so in english for example remnants or vestiges like let's say you have the word them and they so now they use the nominative whereas them would be the genitive or the accusative

so it wouldn't be i saw they i saw them but now like that in arabic every word has that it changes between an in on like that so so now this is going to make a huge discussion as you can imagine in trying to explain the verses the grammatical why is this case ending like this and why but to the non-arabic speaking that is all redundant because they none of that makes any sense to them so they have to kind of completely miss all the arabic part but when you give the arabic nuances the meanings can slightly change

so like today when i said look look at this verse i said it's amazing you know i said that look how you know amazing and beautiful this verse is that that peop that one way that let's say a very apparent way people read it is that you can only will if god wills but you read the same verse and then it's read as well oh you do not will except that god wills it now how do you explain that you you okay you can explain it but they can't really see it because they don't understand arabic so this is so all of these discussions

get mixed missed in a translation and you just have the the meaning discussion like so we're going to say allah says this in the verse and you might say some people said it means this and this was some historic event and these are some rulings from this verse but you can't really discuss more than that in a translation so yeah so the second question i was going to move on to is how was it upon we've got quite a few people waiting as well so we'll try and wrap this one and then we'll bring on some other people as well

that is a debate in in in the tradition generally the discussion is that is the sequencing of the quran that is it divine or is it basically by um of people so generally most muslims go with it is that this they put it in an order that it was meant to be put in that order so the prophet would have recited the quran to them from beginning to end and this is the order that they would

remember in so that is generally what i would go with as well so he would have revealed all the quran piece by piece and then right at the end he would then so like generally what would happen yes so the quran would incrementally grow because more verses would be added but what would happen is at the prophet salla usually people say mostly in ramadan especially in the last few years would recite the whole quran whatever was there was whole at the time so let's say there's still you know where in year seven so up until year seven injury whatever is the whole

of the quran would be recited and then in year eight whatever is the whole in your eight would be recited then in year nine then going so in the final year then so now what the question is that so in this time when the prophet was reciting the quran to and people were listening they were listening to a sequence as well so they would recall that sequence this is this view i do accept that some people have challenged that and said that look no they don't accept that they think that this was done by each tihan so they feel that the like in the time of uthman

and in the time of worker as well they feel that when people were put in the quran as a book they were doing it in what they felt was the right order to put it what if for whatever reason so they may have had their reasons for example let's start with the longest surah work our way down but then it doesn't go in a full sequential order like length it doesn't work exactly like that but then they had so basically they had the reasons whatever they were and they put it in this order so some people do feel that i i think the majority will go with it was um it was sequenced by the prophet so that's the i know the shia i do

question that and they say that no um the order we have today they they feel it wasn't sequenced by the prophet and i think they try to criticize uthman or the allahuan uh for doing that so but yeah but i don't really want to get into the sectarian side of things so i'll leave you with something to ponder on sure i love pondering right so i've been looking at zachariah right um and there seems to be two prophets well professor korea right oh the prophets are korea okay i thought you're talking about a person i thought you're talking about well you're looking at some scholar you said

no but when you said you know i've just been looking at zakaria so i was expecting you to say right so this person's got some youtube videos and what he's been saying is the book of zachary right um so he seems to be a jewish prophet right right now when i started looking at his dates when he was around he seems to have been around around about 550 bc all right sounds about right yeah okay

well if he was custodian of mary oh no no no no no you're mixing him up with zechariah from jesus's time well i don't think i don't regard new testament as scripture at all no no no but that no but this is a scripture no you see you're mixing up are you are you not talking about from the old testament the sorry yes this hour yeah you're talking about that but that's not the the other zechariah that you're talking about is someone else yeah but the other zechariah wasn't a jewish prophet sorry

the other zechariah wasn't a jewish prophet there's only one jewish prophet that the that's named zechariah and he was in 550 bc no you know these no no no these names are very common they're not like they're not like real names in their tradition so you know when you're talking about the the prophets of the visions and you're gonna have jeremiah you'll have isaiah these people especially after uh babylon has ransacked uh jerusalem and then they're taken to babylon at that point this begins a lot of the kind of visions and you'll get especially these will be the key kind of prophets

that come up and they have and jeremiah and these books this is way before jesus this is way before this is like approximately you talking about 500 years before yeah so that just because there's overlaps of names it doesn't mean that they're the same people no no it's not just the overlapping names it's when the grant is not the you see the name zakaria in the quran is not speaking about who you're talking

about from the navy so these are the the prophets of the temple you know the temple era that the jewish temples in fact the quran does not usually refer to them it doesn't mention any of them usually you won't address isaiah it won't address jeremiah i mean i i feel maybe there is an uh illusion especially in in the valley of the dead but it doesn't mention the name once again it doesn't mention although it's speaking about the vision of the valley of the bones but it's not mentioning the name of the prophet it doesn't usually so it's only addressing certain prophets by name that's not from

that temple era that you're speaking about especially the you know the that uh exercises no it isn't categorically you know sometimes you know something i i love the passion and i think you know may allah increase you in passion and for learning and stuff but when you you know one of the things is you have to understand it's important to empty the cup to take more and don't you see especially you know when you're learning it's good that you're gonna be you're gonna be inundated with a lot of

information so don't understand that you will have discrepancies it's going to take you yet months and years and years and you're going to go through and you're going to get good at it and you're going to learn stuff and you're going to research and but it's okay but i get it there's a lot of information and it's inundating but just understand that look when when somebody's when when you're corrected that it's not it's not then just know that but it's been epic darth vader you know what may allah increase you and please it was a pleasure speaking to you likewise stay blessed right so people that was darth vader some

interesting discussions right there uh we had on especially the old testament and the chronological study of the quran whoa i'm falling asleep here so who have we got here let me just see we've got uh [Music]

i'm good you know i i feel like i need a caffeine shot but i can't have a caffeine shot because i gotta this is otherwise i'll ruin my sleep after this what's going on where are you where are you joining us from london um coming to live from the snowy mountains of denver colorado wow alright colorado doing it doing it there is something very cool just about the names of the states of america and even the city they there is i have to say america does have a you know by default it has a very cool vibe to it doesn't it

oh yeah you gotta come make it over here one day yeah definitely definitely and i hear the state of colorado definitely i hear there's some are they making uh uh what is it certain uh i i feel that are they have they made some certain legislations on psychedelics and stuff or i think i've read that yeah yeah that's yeah that's true no that's funny because um one of one of the reasons i was calling was going to bring up a funny story about that uh to like a little bit yeah let's let's let's have that yeah so yeah the answer is what we're what

we wait for this is why we live stream okay yeah so uh to answer your question i think they did uh they at least decriminalize it and i think they are trying to get the legislation in the next election to um make it recreational i think so but yeah it's a lot more recreate medicinal and therapeutic ethiopians yes enthusiasm of course this is why those of you that are reading it says it doesn't just say lonzetta it says the great knowledgeable

i might have typed it wrong but it's supposed to be like a lama like a mark because then my name is mark yeah the arabs back in the background yeah they said they call me yeah [Music] it's a unique name and it stuck with me and it's it's so yeah it is it's cool because in arabic means like a mark like like you'd say allama to estefan question mark but if you if you did a shadow on the lamb so he said like a double l

it would mean like like a very learned chair like that so i i i went every i went either way yeah people see they go and then before you know it lonzetta mark turns up and he's high on shrooms and they think this sheikh must be something else he's like is he talking to angels or is he he's just the shirk is in it [Laughter] so yeah i just wanted to say a couple of things uh first it's finally nice to

meet you i've been following you since 20 2016 or so when you had like i always see you i see your messages always on uh instagram by the way so this is why i thought i thought allama lonzetta let's get him one yeah so as a as a conv i converted to islam like 12 years or so ago and the first okay after and i can it's probably the same kind of path from a lot of converts especially maybe who watch you but uh the first four years you have the zeal and you're into interfaith studies the bible the torah the quran how it all kind of ties together and you're given dawah and you have that zeal but you don't really know the dean

that's you just know that you're happy you found something that makes sense that's what you burn off of for a couple years and then then you start kind of integrating the community and you see why a lot of people do different things they're praying different you know what's going on there and at that point maybe like four or five years to my journey than the school of medina you know chose me i had enhanced my love for the dean and i was like i didn't know what to tell me about this imam malik and the school of medina and this this this is another dimension to islam that makes more sense no i know it was really i was really just like wow this this is part of the tradition this is not like a forefront of the

tradition i love it honestly i think you know i'm not against any person following any kind of school of exactly yeah i think fair enough they're all kind of in their own way doing their things and it's wonderful but you know the school of medina the method of imam malik has has been i must say in this journey of ilm for me a joy it has been honestly i and i found my i find it just so amazing in how it gels naturally and the tradition and how it had this kind of balance between authenticity but at the same

time always contemporaneous welfare like the welfare it's perfectly said perfectly said and i love the fact it's had kind of all these kind of outspoken mavericks as well all throughout the they've just been always saying sometimes just saying crazy things i'm like okay i'm not i'm not the craziest of them they've been chosen subhanallah and then you go back to the history and you you find these different opinions and different and all they're all they all go back to the maliki's you know like uh they they always like you said a perfect combination of

expanding the road for people but also keeping it authentic so you don't have you're not like you're not like you know uh appealing to people or anything like that you have you're appealing to a tradition and to me it just seems the most authentic and most organic uh as far as living your life and it was you know what it was it was the only school historically that was so that it's kind of diaspora was so widespread in the sense that see like other schools had like huge quantities of followers like the hanafi school had like a huge quantity as well of followers it was definitely uh it is

today the most uh in terms of number but it was like let's say eastern europe like hanafi would be eastern europe coming down i suppose subcontinent and then that middle east region and it's just like it's which is a huge part but that's it but what the malikis had you see because they were kind of all spread out like you had them from hijaz the saudi which would be today saudi and then the middle east iraq but then north africa but then central africa but then spain a totally different continent sicily and what one thing i've really um i'm

impressed with was that they conti they completely disagreed so these these became sub schools they call them sometimes madaris like they became sub-schools of the mather so you had the andalucia the madras and lucia you're the iraqi you had the misery the mahariba but what they did was they e even though they disagreed they didn't like they just kind of respected each other like they and i don't just mean respect like proper respect like they would say you know us iraqi companions

they say this by the way they disagree with us but whereas what the other skills did was there was a bit more of a dominance hierarchy so for example in the iraqis like the hanafi's they what they started to do was if they disagreed they would say we don't consider them to like as in we're not dissing them but we don't give fatwa by them like their fatwa is not considered anything and this you see it i just feel it didn't enrich it as well um so yeah this is like a huge so as a brief example just to give you a little example for the viewers

so you see the some of the maliki's in iraq they because what the monkeys did is they produced the different schools had different flavors so the iraqi school was a minority school that was surrounded by hanafi's and hanafi's were mainly very usually people people of usual so this is why the iraqi maliki's are the first to come up with usual in the multimeter because they have to rival the hanafi's so they and because the hanafis have to always the the early hanafis anyway were always very reason like based they wanted why it's harambe why is it

what's the what's their reason so this is why the iraqi monarchies in their fit books always give the explanation they will say the assad the reasoning for that is this or someone they're very explanatory now whereas the andalusias became very hadithy malikis like you get a worker on aurabi you'll get called the eod abdullah all these kind of very hadithi hadithi kind of maliki's doing commentary on hadith and the motherbees became very uh the the because they had nobody

except maliki's the debate went internal like okay imam malik says this is shouldn't be done what does shouldn't here mean does it mean it's haram or disliked so it became a more internal kind of like we're gonna unfold unpack it internally so you can see these kind of little flavors so now the iraqi usually the malikis they said many of them that or some of them they said that any for example any some of them like this is to give a flavoring any ruling any command an imperative

like so any hookum like if you're gonna instruct something like to say go sit stand eat drink any kind of imperative language that is found in the quran can be for haram or or obligation but in a hadith some of the iraqi maliki said it can never reach it can only reach dislike or recommendation now look at that now with that principle you can imagine that it changes everything doesn't change everything so

now you've got maliki's in in the west which were in spain who were very hadith and disagree with that like they say no that like ibn abdulbar is like a very hadith hadith kind of maliki he's like no if the hadith says it's haram but yet when he will cite them he will always say you know the great shares of our school who are from the east disagree with us on these matters they will never diss them yeah yeah and and they'll kind of incorporate as in okay that's their view this is our view like we're not dissing we're not saying oh the deviants or whatever we're just

saying and so another interesting one is um clothing for prayer so the uh eastern malikis said that this has got nothing to do with prayer what's clothing got to do with prayer so yes you should be clothed but you should be closed anyway so technically they said if a person prays naked it's not a good thing but what's he got to do with salah like as in if he's let's say a person is praying naked on his own at home they say this is not this is not good because but it's not a part of salah so the salah is still valid whereas the maliki's in the west or the

other parts would say no like wait a minute clothing is a condition of salons so it enriches the debate and because they didn't slam each other down some of them were allowed to go a bit wild with here so and and i and and i don't agree with i don't agree i say that well this is out of order and some like you'll get a great maliki you're like super huge he's actually he's going to be from sicily and then influence in in north west africa like tunis and places he will give rulings and he's like a dawn of the mother he will give rulings saying things like you know some of them because you know

some of the maliki's they go on muslim welfare and they say you're allowed to change the ruling to reflect the welfare so they will say things like in that day and age oh if there was a cult let's say you arrested someone and you you're pretty you know you've got the gut feeling and you know it's him but you just can't prove it they would say oh you can beat him up to prove it like to get a confession and you think what what the hell is that about we didn't just gone out the window but they would say oh but you know it's in in light of wealthy and luck me you know what he said this was like totally crazy he said like you know if a ship was sinking

and because it's too heavy the load so imagine if we could alleviate the load he said you could sink one third of the passengers to safety you're like what the hell are you on about but he is a legend in the military even though he you see this is the difference you see even i i look i i i may have crazy views or whatever i would say that view is totally crazy and off the rockers and i would say this is not that is not allowed but i would totally honor abu hasan he

is you know considered one of the major people who understood the method and so his book tab is like i mean i've got it right it's like in so many you know whether it's going to be about almost 15 volumes but it's this it's this on ring that kind of allows you later on to still because if you keep shutting people down then it kills that innovative thought because people like and yeah innocent in a good way not in about no exactly and that was uh kind of like the third phase in my journey of islam and i came across your video about the school of medina in the 21st century

and that's when it all kind of came back full circle about how this med habit particular in my life now encapsulated that this there's no gatekeeping amongst this and this kind of and i think there's no people have tried the oxygen to breathe yeah no i mean of course but i think some people have tried but it's hard to keep it because there's just too much you know this like like how do you keep it's like it's like there's a gate but you could shut the door but there's no wall they're running in the back there's like no wall here you can just walk out

it's so i do love it i i must say it has been one of the choice um i will you know what i you know what i'm going to do lanzetta i'm going to i've got so many classes from my reseller class that i haven't streamed live they're old they're about seven years old or something but i will start streaming them you know what you reminded me and they are very detailed but i will start streaming them so people can use them as a reference and stuff and i will you know i did think to myself i want to do a maybe even it doesn't have to be a lengthy text because i get bored maybe like some kind of a text in maliki

in good quality because those videos are old and the quality yeah excellent yeah so i was thinking you know like maybe i should do something because a lot of people have reached out and said to me look i'm really interested in the marquee motherboard and it fills me with joy because it's a it's a part of the tradition that goes back to medina there's a one there's a thirst for it there's a real thirst for it i mean when you're a video about how to pray uh according to the mannequins is one of your most viewed videos it is a there is like an a drawn uh it draws people towards it because and it has an attract it has an attraction

towards it uh because of this because it's refreshing and that uh it's it it doesn't have that constraints and and that gatekeeping and and yeah yeah i mean i listened to your uh and uh and other lectures so you need to do that inshallah but uh i'll get to my uh oh yeah your story yeah i'll get to my quick story yeah i know you've been keeping you we're gonna go on but just so the other people will have yeah yeah so i'll kind of try to keep it brief yeah so and i i bring this story up because it happened on a new year's day and it was probably like 13

years ago in this in the time of uh jahlia or or before islam or whatever and uh and it does have a it does have an islamic question at the end of it that maybe you can touch on briefly because i know you're busy and it's getting late um so uh back in 2008 2009 i was working at circuit city which is like an old school version of best buy i don't know if you have those in uk or whatnot electro electronics store anyway yeah yeah and i was living in an apartment with my my buddy and uh i got home from work and then him and a couple friends were together and they were um ingesting salvia are you familiar with salvia

i think it's the plant yes it's yeah yeah okay yeah psychedelic yeah yeah yeah i'm not apparently familiar with it not familiar with it yeah yeah yeah personally yeah yeah yeah did i say yes toba tomato so so i get there and my roommate's like oh you got to try this you got to try this he did this he did this and this happened to him and this happened to him and i was like it didn't sound like enticing like that sounds kind of crazy that didn't sound like a really good time or a fun time i don't want to deal with this i just got off work let's just watch the you know tv or whatever blah blah so i had three or four of my friends there and they all just kept trying to test me the whole night and i kept brushing them off and they said you know

you never get friends trying to say yeah have you read this book you've got to read this book have you gone to that diploma you need to get on that diploma but the persistence man survival so um yeah so they all they all pretty much gave up except for one guy and this one guy he did he kept coming assistant

he kept going and going for hours hours hours and hours and hours and finally i just i just gave up just to like stop hearing from him i i just gave and i was like okay let me do this and um apparently it was like the most higher priced uh version which is the most uh i guess concentrated of what i don't know if it's potent kind of yeah i'm not yet whatever it was but um so i definitely wasn't prepared and on top of that they would tell me oh it's just like oh it's just like weed or something you're just getting high it's not going to do anything more i was like okay fine whatever so i do it and we're watching this movie and you kind of drift off watching this

movie i think i'm just in a dream state like you just think you have this feeling oh i must have fallen asleep on the couch i'm just dreaming and all of a sudden i'm watching this scene from this movie and i'm then all of a sudden in the scene of the movie this the movie actually becomes real around me and i'm kind of freaking out as you would imagine that's the point where you realize uh oh oh exactly i was like what happened and i couldn't you couldn't really can speak that well so i started looking around panicking and i noticed i don't have control of my hands just kind of like kind of like almost like a zombie and i'm saying who did this what did you do did you put acid on this or what did you

do to me what did you do to me and at that point i looked at all my friends in the room and this is before you know islam or anything that i knew about islam or anything like that you know of the unseen and stuff like that and everybody everyone in the room on the left side of their shoulder was this bald looking thing with big eyes and sharp teeth and you know they all had one and they're all sitting on the left side of the shoulder and then the guy that was the most persistent in getting me to do this who had he was just the most persistent on it his was the biggest

it was almost like jack and like it was like big and it was laughing at me and it was just like mocking me yeah and it was been his noticeably bigger than the other ones so then again i start to panic as you would imagine and then the whole world starts kind of like blending together and i feel like i'm getting sucked into a vortex and of course like with the really strong like the dmt and the stuff it only lasts for a few minutes so intensity is strong but it but after i started swirling it as i thought was in the seven or was that what it is is it a short is is is yeah intensity yeah it's just like dmt where it's gonna be like five ten fifteen

minutes max oh right now like psilocybin yeah it's kind of manageable isn't it in a way okay i mean it's okay you go through prepared okay but but it's still you know it's only 20 minutes i mean exactly like 10 hours if you've got things to do you know yeah it's like yes because yeah because psilocybin and lsd could be six eight hours long and it's it can be 12 hours long it could be yeah depending on it so so yeah i'm just so bringing this up so then i start in my mind i'm swirling around and i'm going sucked into what i thought of time the seven circles of hell or whatever and i

find myself on the floor and i'm finally you know minutes go by and i finally kind of get it out of my system you know remain pissed off with those guys you know to this day but so what i was talk so years later as a muslim and you you know you hear this concept in the quran about the quran and about this korean this companion with you that that that kind of tries to misguide you or deviate you and when you go on these uh antiogens you know you kind of experience these things do you think that um are these separate beings or is the

korean like your alter ego and it's like my brain is it's like that is like formulating these things that i saw and these are like this is like the essence of what that is so i just want to get your thoughts on that i mean first of all shook him for the story [Laughter] it reminds me every new year is and people watching this do not do that okay people watching this at home don't so but the question is is definitely epic that look you know when people experience things like um okay maybe it could be on shrooms but maybe on

shrooms may not be so much about entities like as in these speaking entities but people do on dmt they experience that they happen as well yeah yeah yeah and the dosage but um but i mean you i suppose there's an essence of thing being communicated with and then there's like some people will speak of the like terence mckenna speaks of like the green elves of the dmt world that you see that many people see these green elves that are like behind the kind of cogs of of reality and they communicate with you and stuff so

the question is what are these beings and entities because when you experience them you experience them as very real and more real than was as real as this conversation yes so so it's not you know and you know what a dream is like and you know that that wasn't like a dream it was like real so this is where it gets difficult and this is why rick straussman kind of stopped all his research because he didn't know where to put it in science because these people were too convinced it was real so what do i do with that but islamically i would say look these may be a way of saying that this that this is

like it is a i feel that it is like a kind of cush into a dimension what is that dimension we don't fully understand it it doesn't mean that let's say you meet green if you do meet these green beings or entities or these elves or or you meet something else or you like with dmt people often say with ayahuasca they they have a they say there's an animal like a uh like they may be a leopard or a jaguar or a snake a spirit animal people often speak of do you think there's oh sorry about you said these green beings do you think there's any kind of

relation to the the khadir or qatar the green one yeah and the story of muslims wow that's very fascinating because you hear this recurring stories of the green beans and they have knowledge wow they come to you and it's almost like a dream state and it's kind of miss maxie but you come out you come out of that engagement more knowledgeable no you don't know i don't the stories of the green one because that's even uh among alexander the great there were stories of the green one and meeting with people and alexander the great was always looking for this uh fountain of youth uh and there's always that is that is there a living

now that you say it's kind of obvious but i never ever thought of it like that um you see i'm not saying that these beings that people see these entities have to correlate with they have to signify certain uh concepts of this world like so for example if you say well are they the jinn are they the kareem

i'm not saying any of that i wouldn't say that what others it's all metaphysical it's not like that it's not that you don't have a correlation from this world to that dimension in that sense it doesn't work like that but that would just be a different a cush into a dimension that we don't understand here exactly because it's not part of our day-to-day living so i don't think that we can describe it uh i mean we could describe it but i don't think we could categorize it neatly because that world doesn't work quite in it's a bit like even the world of dreams doesn't work like this world exactly dreams doesn't have the same cause and

effect and it doesn't sometimes you're in a different place all of a sudden so similarly in these things you're you're just everything's different you could be different you could you could completely disintegrate you could have uh non-duality maybe you don't maybe you do keep yourself and you i don't know but these are there have been a lot of studies i would refrain from drawing strict parallels with islamic language i wouldn't say for example this we're going to call that the kareen and we're going to call that the i wouldn't do that i would just say it is i i do love the word kash which is a kind of the mystics and the sufis have used it that it is a kind of uh an unveiling

they say and if you read some of the suffix uh literature even even rb or other people when they describe stuff it very much seems like the lights and the worlds and the that they they'll say you know they trap they in the cosmos and the cosmos in front of them and it seems it seems to echo what studies of what people under that let's say engage with these with sacred medicine also experience so it's interesting i think it needs a lot of research uh but it's a shame

that that religion because it a lot of organized institutionalized religion shuts it down so it doesn't so a lot of the research kind of gets lost because they don't welcome it so yeah yeah like you said uh like when graham hancock and others mention like a lot of these same reoccurring experiences from different cultures and different people and i just find that islam does have a lot of similar experiences and expressions through the quran like i mean i don't you don't really see that in the bible because even in the quran it doesn't explain what these things are on purpose it doesn't explain like it

doesn't explain the paren it doesn't explain the keraman kartibin it doesn't explain these things now people think keraman katavin is like that's the names but katimeen is actually plural it's not actually two and but people you see the point is the quran doesn't explain them because it lets you just imagine them it doesn't matter like it's not that's not the purpose the purpose is is something much greater but yes

it's been epic i really appreciate this this topic and discussion yes people that was mark um an epic discussion but we are you know what it is when we get talking we completely forget about the time and so much time has gone on i'll try and bring on one two people we're gonna have to keep it very brief because

we've been going on for hours so let's get uh we've got amin i mean assalamu alaikum uh how are you doing where are you joining us from i mean uh i'm uh from texas texas elon musk elon musk is here so we're good oh my god you know i'm honestly i'm so impressed by elon musk that's good that's very nice i think yeah whether whether he's an alien or not i don't know but i just find him so fascinating [Laughter]

so talk to us i mean so okay from texas what a student what's oh what no i completed my undergrad so i'm just working now you know i'm like okay with my parents awesome stuff so what's what's on your mind yeah so i was just reading this hadith this is a little bit of interesting hadith where the prophet saw some he says like um that he heard you know bilal bilal his his footsteps in paradise so i don't know if you ever talked about this before and here before but like it kind of got me thinking about like

you know time in in the hereafter world like if he was already in paradise but the prophet saw was telling him in this world like are the people in paradise already in paradise right now as we speak or like you know so i was trying to get some thoughts on that i mean isn't time but just an illusion

so in many ways has the past present and future not already occurred but we just obviously we where we are we have to get there so we don't know it i mean we know about the past that one we know but we just don't know in the other direction but according to physics past present and future pretty much have all occurred so it's not you know there's the time is an illusion i mean this is what many um is it there's a good book by um i haven't

actually been through the book but i was reading some of it and i was watching his youtube lectures see uh what's his name is it justin or julian barber or something he's a british physicist and he has a book called the the janus effect i believe it is so let me see so um i'll just bring it up so there it is janna's effect on oh but this has just gone into the effect it's supposed to i was looking for his name um yep

now is it julian can't let's see julian let's type that in does that come up yep that the janice point that's it right so that's it julian bubble so b-a-r-b-o-u-r and uh it's is he's is obviously somebody quite acclaimed and he's he's a british uh astrophysicist and he and he speaks on this point of why time has a directionality but his point

generally what he's trying to explain is that it is an illusion that time doesn't really exist but what i'm trying to say is several physicists being scientists are of that understanding as well so it's counterintuitive though it doesn't really resonate with the intuition but that's because we are tr we are always experiencing the now the ever-present now and although our minds ironically either live in the past or the present most of the time sorry in the future most of the time and seldom do they live in the present this is the irony we are stuck in the

present our minds refuse to come to the present where they ought to be and our minds are in the past or the future where we want to be but we physically can't be that is life's greatest irony i guess but yeah epic stuff i mean i think that's a wonderful what a complex thought i love it but yeah if you know what if if you read up on maybe on that we should jump on mindtrap and we should have a discussion on uh on uh julian barber's the janus point absolutely great

cool so i mean take care much love what you're doing all the way from texas right so guys that was it was brief but it was epic you see i mean bringing in that epic kind of knowledge all the way from from texas i'm just trying to click on this why is this freezing it's been ah right okay nope i was wrongly right let's uh let's bring on we've got we'll have to keep it brief though because we've got a wrap up

we've got lucy wind jones all right lucy assalamu alaikum it's okay you are a true insomniac or a vampire just like the rest of us okay the tiny few that manage to always be awake at these hours and you have always have that gaming it's this it's epic it looks like you're really there just gaming away i i'm living the best life time coding while well while you were talking earlier you did mention

yeah and i was i was doing some command prompt things i know like people might think that i'm about to break into the system and stuff because of command prompt which is like getting a terminal and a computer so that's a bit about what i was doing but yeah i know like i know like i did share with some of the volunteers earlier it's a we've got a whatsapp group together that you introduced me oh yes yes yes yes of course yes yes yeah i know like i said these are people we are in need of skill sets so yeah so like here we've got coding we've got

software hopefully we've got hacking but out there if there's other people with skills as well do reach out to us always we are always in need but yeah so you're saying that yeah i know like i discovered this i discovered a rather disturbing video about you on youtube and it was also uh it it was it was it was just it was just a loopy conspiracy theory and it was doing a loopy conspiracy theory about a mosque as well in a nutshell what it was doing was it was it was saying like oh my mufti abu life had a board with stars that looks like the star of david

behind that behind him and i had a board yeah yeah i'll try to i'm trying to see whether i can get up the video or there was some background i'll try i'm trying to get i'm just going to show you what's okay no no problem i mean just yeah so what what i mean you could just get to the what was the gist of it that's fine so they're just saying what no no it was saying something something equally sober anyway i'll just i'm just getting up the video so um yeah i'm just just showing so

yeah this okay i'm trying to zoom in but yeah it it basic oh i think i'll need to go back a bit so that's fine that's fine i mean sure don't don't sweat it yeah it has oh it's a bit difficult to see here but i mean i can see i can kind of get a gist of this something it looks a bit kind of ominous i guess so yeah it's a bit difficult to do if i'm not screen sharing the video but what it did is it said this about a mosque that's near me as well that i visited occasionally and it's it was saying that it it called you the z word so i was thinking i was telling the volunteers i'll just just

you want to sue this person who put this oh said word scientist i prefer to use it i prefer not to say it explicitly but yeah i just know like i was thinking would i like to sue them yeah like you said a newspaper who called you that word uh no i didn't sue but i got an apology from them it wasn't to be fair you know the paper wasn't the people were actually very good initially but you had surprisingly he said this is it it was actually allegedly a kind of i think a muslim journalist who did a second article for the same paper

i think it was the son and he uh in it kind of portrayed me in all this kind of light using these i mean he didn't say in that sense he wouldn't say that but he was kind of alluding to all these things so we obviously then got in touch with the papers and and then they did kind of apologize in their way they have to obviously be careful how they apologize because they're worried they're gonna have to pay out money and and they made it clear that it was it shouldn't have happened and they immediately had it removed so which was which was fine i mean that is enough and basically he must have got a bollocking for for it and yeah i know like i did try to report the

video to youtube but i don't think youtube's taken the video down but it is by a conspiracy theorist nutter that was calling even a mosque near me that had similar patterns with um with six pointed stars it's not literally the star of david or the star of ram fine according to others but i know like it it's just basically it's a you know what lucy what i would say is look seriously and i genuinely say this that look let you know people if people want to kind of wallow in their thoughts and negativity let them life keep your focus always we should keep our

focus straight ahead uh a person you know on our own destination not be kind of you know bothered in the slightest with people that are just want to share negativity that's cool you know if they want if a person wants to share negativity it's cool you know it's it's their choice it's their life and the problem is it makes them feel more miserable by the end of it yes it doesn't make me feel any miserable it doesn't make anybody else i mean if i was to let's say a person i actually feel sorry in a way like for people who spend hours and hours doing things it doesn't have to be about me this could be let's say about anyone if

somebody is spending hours of their time investing in negative toxic in this toxicity like i'm just i i wanna i i'm just like like i that that's a lot of hurt going on to their own i knew somebody in my personal life who all they would do i know like we had a massive falling out and it's probably probably good riddance to them but we we i know like she would endlessly smack talk the west and stuff and it's just like she would get like all muslims are so persecuted and would say and i know like she did experience racism growing up poor thing which is why she

came out with those sorts of bizarre statements but it's just like i noticed like it didn't make her any happier so she did have this toxic i think the important thing is that look people it is true like obviously especially uh because i'd be older than you in order to be older than perhaps a few people watching this quite a few so when i was growing up we did experience racism and we did obviously these things have happened and they still do exist they haven't disappeared and there is a lot of persecution and to be fair the muslim world uh is suffering immensely and this is part of the reason why religion is kind of uh often in a rut the like sometimes

you get extremists and things like this is because part of it is because of all this kind of this kind of enmity and and this the the suffering like you could take iraq as an example and then the creation of isis now so these things are true but at the same time you see and this is why it's important like today we had that story of the prophet snapshots you see to take this that despite all the suffering the prophet sallam often when when when seen or found was found smiling that

is a character because that is a personality to to kind of to to aspire to because you see yes bad things are happening but if we just kind of wallow in this kind of despairing kind of misery like we okay we just feel even worse like it doesn't okay i mean we don't change anything like i could i want racism to end today worldwide it isn't gonna end just by me wanting it but yes if let's say i'm i run a company yes there i could enforce certain kind of rules and make sure there's equal opportunities and do stuff but

in the world there's no point i've got a million reasons to be grateful you know somebody i shared a thing today somebody said to me this was a question and then you know what then we'll wrap this because we have gone on this somebody sent me a question today and he said he said mufti on my insta story and on my um yeah so he said that musti people ask me often are you how how are you doing like i'll meet someone to say hey how are you and he says and i'll say i'm fine but really i'm not fine he said like you know life you know whatever is crap or whatever's going on

he said really i'm not fine so when i say to people they say to me hey how are you i say i'm fine he says uh technically i'm lying so am i sinning he asked me a question and i think you know what it's a genuine question the person is you know i commend him for being that conscientious of it i said to him no you're not and i said and you that's because you are you are fine in fact i said you are fantastic that i said that if you compare yourself to somebody in a hospital bed near you wherever you are

grappling for a for the for a breath of life you are infinitely fantastic compared to that person so i said that you you know think of this be grateful to god and smile you know may allah keep everyone smiling because this is the thing that look i tell you look it's being upset and negative when bad things are happening to you is easy it's the default thing to do if life gets tough to become miserable become despondent this is easy

but smiling in the face of adversity this is true leadership this is something yeah i know like one of my friends she's got arthritis and can't squirt ketchup because she can't move her hands like like i can and i'm just demonstrating at the moment and i know like i i know like i was i was just shocked when she would ask help for that because i i'd but i know like there's other people who have severe muscle conditions that means they can't make it easy for everyone look there is you know a good book i would recommend i

can't recommend it enough for anyone listening to this read victor frankl's man search for meaning because he it is not a big book and he he kind of comes out of the concentration camps and he goes on to america he's a psychologist he sets up his own school within psychology but he explains in that book it's called man search for meaning it is epic if you ever find yourself kind of like i'm on a downer and i need like an objective view i need somebody to just you know give me some insight that is that is a book

well lucy will have to wrap this up because yeah for so long yeah and i need to be wrapping up i've just got one more person quickly i'll get a greeting and then we'll for your support as well and mechanism much appreciated uh we'll we'll see what kind of software assistance and hacking i can't quite imagine

you know what maybe we should get an app made you know i i should actually at some point get an app made [Laughter] lucy is completely dismissing that she goes yeah yeah yeah anyway oh joking i'm joking so okay cool we'll we'll catch up lucy much appreciated take care stay blessed have an awesome evening and night wherever you are salaam alaikum people lucy wyn jones um epic guest as always

right i just got one more person we'll do a quick uh we'll have to keep it brief you're on mute alright where are you joining us from i know like it has been it is too late so i'll not take like more than late i just wanted out really appreciate you uh for what you're doing um this is this is the first time i'm calling on any any channel in my own life and i'm pretty old like i'm almost 40 now so

you're young yeah they say life begins at 40. and you're younger obviously look at that he's saying look at all i'm just about to turn 40. older than that i'm almost 43 now i i i can i'll relate to a lot of what you speak about and what you you know um the journey you've spoken and i am basically i'm from india in a state called bihar uh of course

you know i love the accent i say i gotta say i love the the way the speak honestly because well what i feel is missing is uh i don't see too much nuance in terms of understanding how islam is in india right it's very very diverse it's there's like so many layers uh i sometimes i feel that uh especially the poloma have like very uh you know top surface understanding of things especially when it comes to india

yeah and it's mostly like urdu arabic centric which is yeah even though like muslims have lived for almost thousand years in this region but exactly they have not invested time in understanding what this region is about right true i agree with you a hundred percent i feel that you know it's you know look it's yes some things the standard things are always great but different things are interesting you know because it's it okay maybe it's

not everybody's cup of tea you know it doesn't have to be but it's a it's it's interesting you know you had for example um the attempts by certain people like you have darashiko now he did try and you know on one of the things i'll actually speak about this now he had this whole um attempt to because he translated some of the upanishads into farsi at the time and he wrote his book bahrain because he studied he learned sanskrit and he studied the the rigvedas

and he studied things and he found parallels so you know within for example india the hinduism which is now called hinduism otherwise it's loads of different kind of ways like people have got their own thing there's different methods on stuff like this amongst them so he speaks about particularly the um he speaks about the advaita vedenta and he says that these people are muahidin they are the people of tawheed of hind they they're not into the kind of uh the whole

um but the kind of movements they know they don't have the idols and stuff but they obviously still have the other and it's just interesting seeing it you see it's not about whether he's right or wrong but he has parallels like he says for example it seems like in their books that um he'll say things like it seems like brahma is like uh uh and uh shiva is like israel and and he gives these parallels and and he speaks about this and and he's trying to show some like some what he feels are parallels in

ancient books because he thinks that even though some of the books were changed in his time that when the quran says and he quotes uh what is it he says the quran says that there's the kitab maknoon that's it and he says what is the kitab al-makhnum that the quran is referring to it's like an ancient kind of sealed book or something that and he feels it was the the vid these were them now this is his opinion it doesn't have to be you don't it doesn't have to be accurate but it was an attempt of a person living in his day and age this is obviously in the time of origin

who's trying who's writing i mean he has his his book known as and where he's kind of and these are all in in kind of farsi and and that but he's showing and he's speaking about stuff um but the you see it's interesting whether it's whether it whether it's you know but the point is that look it's that it's not about sometimes accuracy it's about it's interesting the person was from a country he he was from that part of the world he studied the ancient languages and he said look

and many people to be fair many ulama feel i'm not saying this is true but many ulama feel that adam alaihissalam was in india you know they say in sri lanka this is where adam alaihissalam came so he was obviously building on that tradition so i found it so fascinating that somebody tried to do that and his book bahrain which in sanskrit he called it samudra sangam that samandar that's mudra sangam that this majma al-bahrain the

and i just thought wow like wouldn't it be interesting if muslims had just just explored or just just wrote about that and they don't have to accept it you see look i spoke about today there was an itch they had of a scholar saying look uh you know if a ship is sinking you can kill one-third now that's absurd i would never agree with that he's a great imam of the maliki method but the point was they're still transmitting the books and they still discuss it sometimes say well this is what made him think this okay we don't agree with it but i think this discussion on this on this movie just like one

minute of time i'll take what i feel like uh most of the scholarship happens you know on the backdrop of some particular situation of that time right so the scholarship depends on what kind of situation they are in and what what is the what is invoke at that particular time so it not it is not necessary that scholars are like really you know super humans they are kind of dependent on you know what is going on so i feel that and the other question that always kind of bothers me is is in especially like uh in the islamic history is scholarship can it really be you know isolated from

what is happening in politics right this is the question can it because i doubt it because when you read i i feel that uh the more i read it obviously like i'm not as well read as some of like your viewers i'm like just superficial knowledge but the more i uh read about history the more i learn about new things i i get a sense that you know most of it is is either you know happening because of some political situation or it's happening because of some economic interest or it is happening because of some you know basic basic human uh human interest so it is very difficult for us to kind of pinpoint today as to what was

happening you know 500 400. this is where you know even is saying is a social creature he doesn't live in a vacuum there's micro influences there's macro influences we are all you i everyone and i think it's true i think personally that there is a lot to learn from uh muslims in india for people that don't live in india and unfortunately nowadays there is they are struggling there is a struggle because of the rise of fascism and stuff like

this the right wing kind of populism make it easy for them i have a different opinion but anyways sure and but what i was going to say as you know just reminded me as a quick note people sometimes they they say this uh you must be familiar recently there was in india there was this whole um that this guy who's doing all this uh was seen as it was seen something yeah

so this guy basically for the viewers that don't know he rejected islam i think he's from he was from shia origin but he rejected islam and then he's recently become a a hindu like he's announced i think his name is i've read it somewhere chatendra and he's become some kind of brahmana or something and or some pundit he's become like he's become like he's trying to be a priest but this isn't the issue the issue is that he had been battling like he's been very he's very not critical in the word he's very rude towards islam and he's very kind of he rallies a lot

of hatred against muslims so he says things like these muslims need to be fixed by violence because they're not going to learn you know they're just going to keep multiplying you know just that scaremongering thing and this is why some right-wing people like him but what i want to recite was my opinion on right-wing people is that you know any right-wing loves the left-wing of the other religion you know so for example so then they would love liberals in right-wing hindus would love liberals of muslims and right-wing muslims so i mean it's

i mean because this because i suppose it's in some way it's like a hegelian kind of they call it a what is like somebody who is kind of questioning you know things uh yeah extremist interpretations of uh muslims extremist uh hindus would really love that appreciate it encourage them and but but that's also from the the the enemy of my enemies my friend absolutely also from that angle yeah and also it gives them some kind of comfort right in terms of yeah uh it gives them uh comfort that at least they are in the

right place i mean i mean it's as basic as that right but you see what's what's worth highlighting is for people that don't know that this character this person was seen that were speaking of rizvi he uh he made a petition in india to have i i think 26 verses of the quran removed or something yes and he took it to the supreme court in india now check this out because people sometimes say that look oh my god and some people they they kind of deride and they say things but i was really kind of wowed and that he first of all the audacity that he tried

to take the quran as he claimed that he needed to be condemned and 26 or whatever they were verses need to be removed from the quran he took this matter to court the court slammed him condemned him and fined him as making such an outrageous and inflammatory kind of this country here that was the this is the secular court of of india and i i i really saluted that i thought this the fact that these people most likely not muslim

most likely i mean i'm just saying in the court most the staff yeah i'm assuming they're not muslim most of them the the country coven currently is under a bjp rule which isn't very helpful there's the rise of populism you could fee and all this is going on and in that climate they not only you see they could have just said sorry we dismissed this case they slammed him held him in contempt of court for making such a ridiculous claim against a sacred book and find him and i thought wow you know like

this is the kind of insania that we see that we really need to connect with in this day and age you know this humanity that people have that they say look we ain't muslim but this is a holy book at the end of the day you know this is held so dear to people like how do you just try to be so inflammatory with it and yeah i just thought it was yeah just to like just to you know share something with your viewers about like uh what kind of experience like typically we hear a lot of lack about india right especially like in today's context and all but that's only a tip of the iceberg right if you go to see muslims in india are

not homogeneous they are like extremely diverse like i have like i am from bihar i would not know anybody from kerala right i would have nothing in common with them i don't know the language yeah i have some friends from kerala and i have some kind of like kind of mentories like some clients and and that's not only for they don't speak urdu and i don't understand what i'm

a good example because people know it right but you go to any part of any part other than the northern belt like you go to andhra pradesh you go to karnataka you go to maharashtra i've lived in malaysia over 10 years so i mean it's very very difficult to uh generalize about it used to bump into people they used to bump into shahrukh khan and salman khan i stood outside his house [Laughter]

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