My Respectful Approach to Atheists & Polemics -Mufti Abu Layth

now I want to speak about this somebody's asked about hottest sorbonne or video vids or why do I show these people respect or look I want to say something I encourage each and all to be genuine in their journey of life to pursue what they feel is going to give meaning to their life okay now to some people they along the way may not feel

that Islam is for them I mean although theologically I feel that Islam does stand the test of time I feel that it does stand up to any critique or criticism and on some things there are nuances we we have to I feel we have to re-evaluate maybe certain narratives that we have but I do feel overall Islam does stand the test of time maybe not certain manifestations of it but the

beam in and of itself but there will be people along the way that will disagree with us and there will be a divergence in our path but we are still all in son we are bani adam' we are here to discuss we are here to walk this journey of ours on our own okay and I've respect that I respect that a person can actually think about something that they can actually examine something because most eight not most but many there are many atheists that

I've met I mean not that I've discussed with but I've met a certain amount of people that I've had some good deep dialogical discussions with and in all honesty many of them have considered and thought about God and religion much more than most religious folk and that's in my experience like they actually take it very seriously this is the problem with them that they take it far too seriously and but I respect that I respect the courage it takes to make a decision even

if that decision is to part ways with with this faith because look the Quran is not in need o Islam is not in need of anybody's faith the Quran actually says Musharraf illumine Musharraf a look for you know if you want to believe believe if you want to disbelieve disbelieve this is the Quran so we should still in my understanding have and you don't need to I don't think you need to I'm not saying everybody must do this but if you let's say do get on with somebody from a human perspective I think you should and you

should have you know that that kind of you should have a friendly bridge to each and all regardless of the differences and as human beings you can get on do you think everybody around the Prophet was Muslim I mean you're mistaken ridiculously if that's what you think because they weren't they were not Muslim okay in fact even in the final hours in the final days of the life of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam when he needed he needed staple food he

needed wheat and he needed raw food products to sustain his family who did he take it from who did he leave as a his his shield he kind of pawned his shield in place for this food it wasn't the Muslims it was a Jewish trader I mean we're mistaken where we think that the Muslims were so you know we have this understanding that Islam came and everybody was just Muslim is so far

from the truth even in the prophets lifetime I don't think the majority forget the majority of Arabia the majority of the people of Medina and things like this may not have been Muslim and that's understandable because when you think about it how many people did he draw from Makkah how many people did he draw they a few hundred that's a really you know what do you think like ten thousand people got up and left no they didn't and in Medina how many people do you think embraced

Islam I'm sure they did in the hundreds but that's it they would like hundreds of thousands and they say at the end of the prophets life people say in some narrations that all Muslims that could attend the pilgrimage attended and they were a hundred thousand they say and that's from the whole of Arabia coming from as far down as Arabia Felix which is Yemen coming up from that right up from thee to the northern Arabian which is Arabia petraea right according to the Roman kind of

maps Oh our Arabia desert which is the pages and all of these parts and you're considering from a population of Arabs that if you consider the Middle East as well probably ten million Arabs out of whom 100,000 in come to the Hajj one hundred thousand is a lot but it's nothing when you're looking at ten million and even if you double the number to say that half of those people stayed at home and you Triple E to say well they could have had little children it's still three hundred thousand even

if you stretch it to four hundred thousand out of ten million it's not a so I think we we live in like a cuckoo kind of universe where we think like everybody just saw the Prophet and embraced Islam and everybody sunk you no they they and all the companions and who ever met the Companions joined hands and they all kind of come by our milord there was nothing like that they were the Muslims for a few centuries were always a minority they were they may have been a dominating

minority in certain parts of the world so even when Bonnie maiya were ruling the Middle East and the Abbasids after them they were a dominating minority and they were a powerful kind of minority but they weren't just one moment one moment people I think this just give me own memento

right people on momentum back sorry about that sorry about that I just you know one thing had this little drink here and it's kind of spilt and I was a bit worried it was it's built over the the actual laptop but no he hadn't it's fine cool all right so back to where was I right so yes so I mean I I

want to add to that so we sometimes live in this kind of cooker world that we think that everybody was always so you know they everybody was just Muslim and it wasn't like that at all so coming back to Harris Sultana I wanted to say actually because somebody reminded me look first of all we should be secure about our faith I want to be very clear on that if somebody challenges Islam they don't intimidate my faith okay I want to be absolutely and I do disagree with with

the way that certain people with the way sometimes certain people do respond like there was the case of Junaid Hafeez which I spoke about where the apostate if he was an apostate he's sentenced to the blasphemy laws in Pakistan and I've got a video on that do check it out but I want her a highlight that regarding that I know I did see several people sent me a post of Abdullah Gundel who I have a friendly relationship with and I did read the post and it was a very kind of angry

post following on from the Junaid Hafiz case and it was kind of F this if that F God if the Prophet you know all this kind of stuff and obviously I don't I don't like that just as any Muslim wouldn't like it but right and several people kind of sent this to me and they said like oh you know what you know what the hell and and people were kind of and then it said on there that look you know what I'm going to do is I'm going to tear out pages of the Quran and I'm gonna smoke them up as I'm gonna roll him up as a joint and smoked them smoked the joint on live or

something know this kind of stuff obviously I don't think he was going to do something like that but it's saying this kind of stuff right saying this kind of stuff is obviously you know so toxic and so kind of radioactive because it really harms the cause of apostates or of X Muslims or of atheists or people like this because I can understand the frustration I can understand because

I've got a video myself condemning the Pakistani look blasphemy laws and saying that Junaid Hafeez it is ridiculous and unacceptable by Islam what they are doing to him and this you know it is an affront to Allah and His Messenger that in his name they are conducting these kind of tyrannies but this kind of stuff in turn obviously aggravates muslims and it really so i do condemn that kind of

speech that kind of rhetoric that kind of provocative style of saying look I'm gonna burn the Quran I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do that personally look if a person wants to burn the Quran I've got a video on this with the new way Quran burnings and I've said that as Muslims you know if somebody wants to burn the Quran if anything I kind of like pity their naivety and stupidity because I mean do you really think you're causing harm to the Quran the Quran isn't being harmed by you you know faith is you know it's must occur ah Phil Collen you know and the thing is

that it's not this isn't like that by you burning a must have you know this is a must have here if somebody burnt this must have I mean it's I think it's completely unhu' main to do something like that but if somebody burnt it I i if anything I laugh at this stupidity because do you think that that's going to by by burning paper you will eradicate faith from the hearts of the believers that that's not how faith works well it's not how it ought to work and should I kind of come and beat you up for burning paper no no I shouldn't

I should not if anything I should just I should find it amusing how dumb you are that you actually think that that is harming the faith of Islam it isn't so yeah but I mean so I I do condemn look I agree I condemn things that are wrong but having free ideas free thoughts to be fair I I don't know I don't monitor that closely people like these ex-muslims hard assault on all the people video vids but I have I do watch a few of the things I am in touch with

them on and off the things I have seen from how it's all done I haven't actually seen him dish being that like I haven't seen him being that kind of disrespectful as in saying if God if the Prophet if they I haven't seen that kind of stuff whether he does it or not he is not answerable to me but I haven't seen that from what I've seen is he critiques Islam and he's free to do so it's his choice it's it and I want to say that this reminds me I saw a video that was circulated and there were about two or three videos yeah so in this video they

were really just they were obviously some Pakistanis and they were really offended by his channel Pakistani mulehead the Pakistani apostate and atheist and they said that so they dedicate this video swearing at him just like you know you um you know your mom and one of the videos is dedicated a huge portion just at his mum just saying his mum is the biggest [ __ ] there is his mum is like this his mum had a thousand men in one day or his mom had

this is you know where is your dignity like is this how you defend Islam that you and I actually I watch this and I was like oh my god this is disgusting how I understand that you're offended he's critiquing Islam but to react in this way by saying and and then they had his sister and they had photographs of his sister saying look this is what his sister looks like you know oh I want to do this to her I want to do that to her oh we want to rape her we want to we should all get together and rape his

sister and what is wrong with people honestly I was so I thought what what what is seriously wrong with these people do they think they're doing God a favor you know this is where Allah says in the Quran Yamuna alika and Islam you know these people they think they're doing a favor upon you by being Muslim upon the Prophet they not this is it is an insult to the Prophet to kind of say and and the irony is this guy I wrestled

his mom and sister are actually Muslim like so oh my god they're actually Muslim they're not ex Muslim say and they just non-stop going at these people like oh my god this whole thing dedicated that lets you know everybody we should screw his female family members it's like wow like this stuff I find it so degrading I find it honestly I find it hurtful to see this that okay disagree with the guy even if he is sarcastic towards Islam be sarcastic towards him yeah fine be sarcastic towards a mouth I

don't care I'm sarcastic towards many people but I think this this standards you know this this is this is not honestly I yes yes Wow that's all I have to say honestly wow this is really deeply so yeah so I mean I just want to put that out there that don't kind of don't support things like that support critiques me ideas with ideas if somebody comes challenges your

idea meet them with strength meet them with concepts meet them with eloquence meet them but don't kind of you know if this and F is this and let's all get and you know something I want to mention something you know a while back I was chatting with one of my atheist friends from the jinn from the gym he works a we we have a lot of some sometimes we have these vampire kind of dialogues so it's interesting how he pointed out to me he's a white guy he said to me

that have you noticed that whenever there's a video of like let's say somebody who's either criticizing Islam or it could be an islamaphobe now let's say Britain first or they're clearly racist or they clearly Islamophobic let's say they are no benefit of the day let's just go in that you've got some people who do hate Islam and they're always scaring people he said have you noticed in the comments on the videos so many Muslims are always just saying oh let's rape her let's rape her like you know this woman needs to be raped by so many men he said like have

you noticed like that Muslims seem to be the only people that seem to make like in abundance so many comments like that that everybody and what and I just find that so ironic that we as a faith as a beam that is meant to kind of honor women that says that you know the Prophet taught things like al-jannah that academic Ummah heart that this is with Jenna is the in comments and things like this whenever we get aggressive the first thing we threaten is let's rape all the way I mean what what the hell is

wrong with people so yeah I do find it very this disappointing disheartening embarrassing as a Muslim to see so many Muslim and it's not all Muslims but there are unfortunately a very new easy few that seem to appear to represent but yes so I just wanted to put that out there