Jinn Possession Debunked | Mufti Abu Layth

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though right so right Al I'm just waiting for a few people to log on uh we're going to begin this discussion inshalla demonic possessions all right and why first of all no ice today just trying to recuperate from this cold or flu or man flu as it is I've no not today I mean it's been a few days I've cut my here so H let's see people let's see what's

going down okay so right let's inshallah begin this um this is a discussion I wanted [Music] to uh right thinking it's a Monday well not quite not quite so the KKK okay momo but this one's black though # black

matters so the thing is right why do I think this discussion is an important discussion red lenses that's awesome I used to have some red lenses right so the thing is look I I want to highlight the importance of um of this topic of

possessions right so first of all just to clarify I will get into more detail and I will also be at some point doing a proper this is more like a dialogical video a discussion video where I'm interacting um with certain you know with your questions with my input but it's theme based as opposed to the Monday nights with Muti but I will be producing in time to come be a proper video dedicated uh a properly professionally constructed video uh on the concept of

demonic possessions okay right the thing is uh I'm this I'm in another this is actually my workspace my office my home office anyway where I work from so it's not uh it's not another dimension if I just go through there is my library anyway so there are no such things as demonic possessions in Islam okay these things do not exist uh it's not that they just don't exist in Islam they do not exist in the real world okay they're there is

no such thing as a gin possessing an a human being or an individual um I will highlight some of the the evidences behind this but I need you to understand that this matter first of all how how we arrived at this this widespread myth this is a widespread belief amongst Muslims and not just Muslims any communities whether it's uh I mean they could be of any faith right uh people tend to have this belief in spiritual possessions demonic

possessions I mean you could go outside of the abrahamic faiths into people of Faith or just animism or whatever it is they seem to have these kind of beliefs that the Jin come and possess people or I mean they may not call them the Gin they may call them Spirits demons ghosts um so these views are not only are they irrational un reasonable they and nonsensical but they are actually in contradiction with true Islamic beliefs okay so that so let's take a look at

that first of all so what are we saying to start off with we're saying that there is there is no such thing as demonic possessions the question then will come that what are they then and I will Ex expand on that that these things are really just psychological um it's psychological phenomenon taking place and we can expand on that in a moment and you guys can uh share your questions does Area 51 have Gins more likely to have aliens I have watched The Exorcist right

so right now so let's take a look at how we know from the Quran to start off with that no such thing exists like this to start off with in Islam we have an understanding that an insan is M he is liable okay or she is liable for their actions to become possessed is to suppose that there is a suspended state of liability because obviously if right now I am not me I'm a

demon which many will have you believe then I suppose there is no liability I'm not I can't be liable or punished or even held accountable for what this demon is doing this will destroy the concept of tle of liability because demons allegedly I mean these these demons these gin are they're not of our Realm so we cannot see them we cannot we have this concept we do believe in the concept of

Jin what that means in Islam is that Allah has told us that there is another creation called the Jin he hasn't told us too much about them just that they're in a totally different realm uh and that they are not perceptible so people then guessed and tried to figure out things and you know are they huge are they do they look like us do they look like these kind of horns and wings and or are they microscopic some have said they're so small that you can't see them

um reverse camera okay or it's a gin it's a gin as in g n it's a gin and tonic no I'm joking so the thing is look so the Gin exist the question isn't about their existence the question is do they have this uh do they impact human beings there is no clear evidence to show them impacting human beings or interacting really with human beings in

any meaningful way there isn't even clear evidence on the fact that they are accountable beings there isn't clear there is um inferential data so there's evidence which we can infer that it implies that they to that these the understanding is what is being referred to is inin although that's not unanimous either some people interpret it differently that is referring to insan different types of insan and but the point is this is why I

believe IM Abu hanifah and other people when asked that will the Jin be punished on the in the afterlife they did uh they just said you know we don't know so we're not going to uh this is something we we're incapable of knowing but the point is that yes this creation exists whatever it is we don't truly know uh about their Essence we have some hints but we don't truly know people think oh they made of fire there must be like whatever but this that doesn't mean anything in a true sense okay because obviously say to say man is made of clay

we we don't look like I mean okay brown clay but okay not everybody's Brown so the thing is human beings don't look like clay so it's not the so to just assume that we know what the Gin are like is is at best an assumption right anyway so this question here this dialogue is not about the existence of the Jin it's about the belief that people have that Jin come and possess people and they stay possessed with them and they ruin their lives okay now we have to understand first of all let's take a look at the

quranic scenario so the first principle we drew from uh General so many verses of the Quran is the fact that in there is there is we have liability liability has is B is invalid if we are possessed okay it's it's invalid so let's take a look at another clear verse of the Quran that completely destroys this concept of possession uh the verse in Surah ibraim verse 22

that that that Allah speaks that when the whole Affair has been settled and this is Allah is depicting the day of judgment and he he says that when everything has been settled and determined at that point the shaan the Shan will emerge and he will say that he he will say that to incern that why are you blaming me why are you blaming me that I only

promised you like I gave you a promise and and I just went against my promise that's all I had no zero capability of forcing you don't blame me blame yourself that he says all I did at best was just invite you I just enticed you I just made something appealing appealing to you

that so you responded to me I didn't you know I didn't force you I didn't have no force over you I simply said hey why don't H that's a good idea you did it nobody was telling you to do it right so the thing is now okay so this is a clear verse of the Quran showing that the the daddy of more daddy Devil Himself he is incapable of anything beyond simple

insinuations Beyond Simple alluring enti ments nothing beyond that he is incapable of it then there are several that the the prophet Sall alaihi wasallam the the sahabah came to him and said sometimes we find in ourselves certain things uh that they we find in ourselves certain things that we struggle to speak about that they're so immense so difficult and the prophet said that that's that is true faith and then he

said that all praise be to Allah who restricted the Shan from simple like to at best Wasa Whispers insinuations at best these are the clear words of the Prophet Sall alhi wasallam then we have this whole culture what we've ended up with the the other important thing before I say anything and and take a look at some of these questions that you're sharing is we have to understand what was the purpose of Islam the purpose of Islam was to guide people to one

creator that was the purpose to rid Humanity of superstitions nonsensical beliefs irrationalities to read the the D people Humanity of these kind of superstitions believing in demonic possessions is nothing but a Superstition it is nothing but a Superstition right it is antithetical to the message of ocds are can can I mean it depends

obsessive compulsive disorders they could also be neurological as as well okay right so okay now let's take a look at people who say there are gin possessions and why do they say this right first of all let's look at the Quran and Hadith now there is no single evidence no single listen to me here people there is no single clear evidence in the Quran or in the Sunnah that is established it must be and it must not be subject to criticism and it must so it must be

conclusive there isn't a single Hadith or a single verse of the Quran that speaks of Jin possessions in fact the verse that I told you it speaks the opposite it actually condemns uh this kind of belief so so now people will say yes but there are some Hadith I tell you every single Hadith that is has brought been brought forward for Jin possession has been criticized there is not a clear conclusive sah Hadi the famous ones that you will see of people

like um that he was from it's interesting by the way because the few narrations they tend to bring are always from B this tribe of from again but anyway this this Hadi of which is in the mus of Ahmed where he says I saw three things the messenger of Allah never saw sorry that I saw three things accompanying the messenger of Allah that nobody else ever saw and one of them was this lady had a child and she said oh my God he's got some issues and the prophet said he's possessed and

he did this thing and uh uh and he said you know get out oh enemy of Allah and so on and this Hadith is not sah right it has it is you might say some people tried to prove it to be sah first of all the chain has been criticized the popular transmission it has a r in there by the name of Alman who has been criticized has been declared Weak by people uh by people like uh and other people they've declared him weak they've not accepted him uh the thing is even if you look at the muton

the content of the Hadith and this this companion is saying I saw something which nobody else ever saw that in itself shows you that this issue wait a minute if demons were lurking around possessing people then surely the prophet would have clearly warned us about them clearly in aah Undisputed Hadith anyway there is another Hadith that people like to use a lot by the way now that that is a Hadith of this person who comes to visit the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam in a

delegation he comes in the year 9 and he's also from the tribe of all did have a role in in this or I need that Meme here that that one right but the thing is look he comes to the prophet and there's several narrations the narrations speak of him saying he's struggling to retain the Quran okay he's struggling to retain the Quran now in some narrations he's saying I'm struggling with something he just

says I'm struggling and then the prophet calls him now there is let me tell you theah narration okay that he is struggling with the Quran that nobody disputes he comes to Prophet was this is in this is in Muslim and the prophet simply places his hand on his chest and says to him why don't you go lead people in go lead your

people and so on that they have all kinds of people amongst them the elderly the weak and he goes and he says W in some narrations he says when the prophet placed his hand on my chest I felt the coolness of his hand and and he ins some narrations he says after that the Quran was always with me like as in I never struggled to memorize it now this incident is not disputed what is disputed are these other narrations now there is a narration that is brought in the books like Ma and other books that the prophet placed his hand on his chest and he said to

him get out of here you enemy of Allah and then in some narrations he says I saw this thing go or I did this or I did that none of these are proven all of these chains are criticized the popular one they bring has somebody called Muhammad Abdullah anari who has been criticized by people they say later in age he his his memory was so badly affected Abu says that so severely his his memory was impacted I mean so not

acceptable then this Hadith comes in several incidents by the way uh several narrations like this not a single narration where the Prophet is saying oh enemy of Allah come out is established not a single one Imam nowi in the sah Muslim narration comments by saying that this when the prophet Sall Alam when he's saying I'm struggling with the Quran because he uses this wording and and he says that uh I'm I'm struggling with the Quran and in one wording he says I find thean being a barrier

between me and the Quran IM noi who who who is commenting on S Muslim he says this does not have to mean gin possessions he says this could quite simply mean that he says this has the possibility of meaning when he's saying the Shan becoming a barrier between me and the Quran is that he's talking about arrogance because he leads his people so people say people say wow that guy is so solid look at the way he recites the Quran so he's fearing this his ego this is what Imam noi is writing on his commentary

and he says that is a very plausible understanding and the other understanding is waswasa that the guy keeps doubting a bit OCD if you like that he keeps thinking oh have I read this haven't I read this uh and he keeps thinking like that and then Imam noi says by the way all of the narrations to do with I believe them to be talking about the same incident these are not different incidents and he says and he to me he says my understanding is very clear that he had waswasa he had OCD he says he was not affected by the Jin or

the this is Imam noi commenting on this incident and this is a famous incident used by people who like to uh believe in this whole exorcism culture and gin possessions right so the thing is now anyway there's another narration as well that people use of of this woman called Aban

B who is the most likely the granddaughter of the her grandfather uh her actual name was Hind and people uh in this incident she speaks about her grandfather coming to the prophet with a child and saying that look oh the child is whatever ill or something and and he says though he possessed and he's got some get out of here some Demon and and people see something coming out a weak a very weak extremely weak narration okay zabi declared it weak other people declared it weak even albani who is sometimes

very lenient he even said he never said weak he said he said it's extremely weak it's so unbelievably weak anyway so look there is nothing from the Quran or Sunnah that proves Jin possession okay it does not exist right it is a figment of people's imagination now that right so okay let's CL clarify that now the next thing is you ask people who believe in Jin gin possessions that why do you why do you believe in this I I want to know is your

belief in this textual is it rational which one is it how have you arrived at this belief it is definitely not textual and I can guarantee you they did not simply choose to believe in Jin because they've read something and they thought oh wow okay so it's like saying well why do you believe in uh I don't know like let's say for example that uh if we're to ask them that zakat should be given in a certain way oh well because I've read it here that is clear their belief in zakat

being given in a certain way is only textual they didn't just one day conjure that up when you ask them why do you believe in demonic possessions you see why you we can backtrack one step further why do you believe in the Jin they will say we believe in the Jin because it's textual okay the woman who was assassinated this a clothes who took off her clothes and reported um that this was Al in form of this man this Hadith is not okay um that is not an authentic narration by the way I want to add here some people

say you know this why did the prophet put his hand on when uh if there was nothing metaphysical happening here if there was nothing uh to do with the sh why did the prophet put his hand on his chest oh or sorry hit him like when they say hit it doesn't have to be like it could just be simply like as in hit his chest like that why did he do that now you have to understand that these are certain mannerisms that certain people and certain cultures and certain practices have and the prophet sallallah alaihi

wasallam doing this was symbolic how do we know this how do we know this let's go to a totally different incident let's go to a totally different incident aith of J abdah alali okay a companion who in his time there was uh uh sorry in the prophet's time there was this person called who had made a uh a version of the Kaa in Yemen they used to call it and they were trying to buy it ridicule Islam and do all these things

and and the prophet asked that who will go and see to it and we we need this removed okay who will do that for me so he said to J and this is it's in bukari and Muslim he he said to like won't you uh eliminate that uh get rid of this this pseudo Kaa that they've made and he said yes and he says to the prophet that I struggle to sit still on a saddle I struggle with this like when he

rides he he didn't have confidence or he didn't have or he had some issues going on he couldn't it wasn't a physical apparent issue but he had an issue he says I struggle that I can't seem to be steady on a saddle what does the prophet do in theith it's in and Muslim he hit his chest with his hand and he then said to him now go and jar says Subhan Allah like I felt the coolness and so so this is an incident nothing to do with SH nothing to do with demons and stuff like this so

this incident of or this feature of the Prophet putting his hand on people's chests or hitting their chest and uh giving them reassurance this is a symbolic gesture that you see in many a Hadith it's not restricted to just extracting demons okay so just to clarify that anyway so so so this this understanding anyway coming to this you see cultures have always believed in De in demons and stuff like this way before Islam even come came to them when Islam came to them all they did was islamicized it and

I've given this example before that in the uh that in uh let's say the Indo Pac World they have this concept of the jel this lady with long hair and um backwards feet and she hangs about by swamps and things like this and now when Islam came what they did was they simply said well we don't have a new category called the chel so what this must be talking about is the Jin so they just superimposed Islam upon their existing uh cultural beliefs the thing is but why do people

have these beliefs this is a more interesting question the thing is that you see we struggle with ex with interpreting or understanding The Unexplained things the kind of xfiles that exist out there inexplicable data it really freaks us out as human beings you see human beings by our very nature we are very inquisitive creatures we seek meaning in things we

want to know the reasons behind things so when somebody starts all of a sudden having a seizure he starts or she starts going into some kind of a shock mode it scares us because it's abnormal behavior when somebody starts talking in tongues they start talking in in almost semi languages or things like this when somebody suddenly starts vomiting in a horrific manner when somebody rolls their eyes back and does things which look really scary to us it freaks us out

quite rightly so so we don't know how to interpret that when somebody starts to pretend to be somebody else when I I use the term pretend but I'm not saying it is actually a pretend but when they manifest as a different person we don't know how to answer and explain that historically they definitely did not know so in recent times alhamdulillah a lot more breakthrough has taken place in things like psychology we can now explain many of these things schizophrenia you have things like borderline personality disorders you

have multiple personality disorders which are now referred to as dissociative identity disorders you see let's take a look at this did right dissociative identity disorder all of us at some point have kind of zoned off somewhere you're you're thinking and you kind of Zone off almost like a daydreaming State we've all done that at times you you've kind of there and you just lose focus and you're in something else and imagine not being able to come back from

that you see that is what it's almost like this dissociative identity disorder there has been there's been many studies done on people who claim on possession for by the way most possession possessed people have been victims of trauma especially early on in their life right as young people they've been uh whether it's been exposed to abuse violent abuse sexual abuse other kind of trauma the loss of a supportive Network I mean they've had

some kind of immense struggle going on in their lifestyle in their lifetime especially in their early life the Mind tries to cope with what's going on now we are all different some people we can do it many people can do it they can cope with several kind of stress uh elements for other people the Mind as a coping defense mechanism will create split personalities that divide off and Splinter off from the original personality U there's actually a recent movie as well called split which is very interesting speaking about this person

with did but this can explain a chemical imbalance can explain nowadays you see when these people have these disorders when they take certain drugs they're suppressed this is different to schizophrenia in schizophrenia a person hears voices to they have hallucinations they have delusional beliefs they don't have necessarily multiple personalities but somebody's talking to them telling them to do something instructing them chasing them

uh these it's so I mean this would exact people would just interpret that as oh well this person is possessed another reason why people go into sometimes possession or this kind of angle is they want to there's an element of um displacement of guilt so people can't strugg they struggle to cope with so for example I I went to see an exorcist once and by the way I'm more than uh I'm I'm I'm open to taking an invitation

from anybody who wants to prove me me wrong you can take me to an exorcism okay but please only take me to the biggest and baddest of them all right because I don't want to waste my time on just little you know just pathetic kind of uh uh incidents I want to see the biggest and baddest of what you've got they all of this phenomena can be explained right so people will see somebody going into seizure so you have something by the way called um you

you you you have what they do call uh they do call them pseudo seizures as well but psychogenic seizures they can they've actually monitored people uh through electroencephalograms seeing that they do not have epilepsy okay but they will have a psychogenic seizure that it's triggered by the mind and it has a psychosomatic effect and the person will uh and usually they go into these seizures where they arch their back in such an spasms in such a uh kind of strong manner that it actually appears as though they're levitating off the bed

you can go on YouTube and you can see doctors actually showing you these they're called psychogenic seizures the famous case of Emily Rose um upon inspection I know the movie's been made about The Exorcism of Emily Rose but upon actual anal is they the doctors had identified she had psychogenic seizures she was not actually possessed I mean the way people the Rome you know the Catholic church and these people were obviously obsessed with her being possessed the other thing is you have to understand that this leads to the abuse and deaths in extreme cases of

people exorcisms is not just a an okay you know well oh if you believe in it or you don't this is ridiculous people are abused in the name of exorcism they have been deaths several deaths right you can count I mean just Google that exorcism has gone wrong Google that deaths resulting from exorcism you will see in the UK children have been killed in the name of exorcisms they've been abused uh brutally they they've had things shoved

down their mouths and suffocated almost in the name of expelling this gin out of them in America there's been many more cases by you know by Roman Catholic priests and other people who strongly adhere to this exorcism culture where the famous cases where women have been tortured even today women are tortured because they they they believe these women are possessed so it's about this is the exact thing that Islam came to eradicate and people say no but you know oh uh but uh uh you know there's things

which science can't explain and there's things which look nobody is saying everybody can explain everything but they're working on several things they know many things today that a few decades ago they did not know so just because something cannot clearly be explained Imam gazali by the way in his book which has been edited by called I mean it's a very small called he ridicules this concept of talking in tongues and when a person has gone into this kind of seizure that it is a gin he says this is he says it is irrational unacceptable

un intellectually to accept that a gin has possessed this person okay the other thing to understand is well why why do the Jin possess people why do they possess them tell me so in fact let me ask this question people tell me why do the Gin possess people why do you think the Gin possess people give me some answers let's see what what are the answers why would the Jin so I'm a Jin going about on my Merry day chilling as jins be right

so why would I want to possess somebody and have experienced something abnormal inside them no come on give me some for a laugh okay I mean if it was a gin like me he might do it for a laugh but this is interesting because if you mean by that they want to feel good in a gym body why did Gin possess people to drink with their left hand I swear I I must definitely forget being possessed I must be a gin loneliness the Gin are lonely they

want to try Pizza of course black magic no I mean what's the real reason that Jin possess people what are Jin trying to do when they possess people come on people impurity they want to make somebody now if you want to make them impure just Chuck some dung over them you don't need to cuz Jin fall in love with humans fall in love we're different species we're different genus for God's sake why would they fall in love with us boredom uh what about influence um people send out demons exactly but why why what what are they doing what are what is the purpose the objective behind

the Jin to do this what is the objective being evil okay good Hamza so Mischief okay excellent because they're trying wait there let me do it that would be more uh more uh gin likee but anyway look they do this because they want to create harm and Mischief this is the understanding that all these Scholars write okay now you tell

me right these like all these people who wrote about gin possession and by the way not all the accepted Jin possession Shashi uh many other people deny gin possessions okay things like she um especially in our recent times many of these

must you've got so many countless a lot of these people uh that even the way alali speaking his shows that they cannot be possessed um sh uh throws the uh you know spanners in this works uh many people did problematize although I accept that the majority of people did accept gin possession this was not because they were rationally convinced or they were uh found it to be textual it was because they didn't have another answer they didn't know how to answer the phenomenon

that they were witnessing so this was uh this was why they were kind of led to they had to answer it somehow it's a bit like the black death you see when you look at the plague the Bubonic plague that kind of swept over uh many parts of the Muslim World taking killing almost onethird to a half of the entire population wherever it went and it spread rapidly now the Muslim doctors at the time and the scientists did their best to re to try to isolate where this plague was coming from they couldn't understand because at the time obviously they didn't they W things like bacteria

weren't discovered now so they could and they didn't realize it was the fleas and of of the rats and things like this but what what they they tried everything the water the this the that and they couldn't they couldn't figure it out only when they gave up then they said oh this must be a a curse from God you see first they weren't prepared to accept that it was a curse it was when they didn't have another answer then they turn to these metaphysical answers so you can read people like talking about that but anyway let's come to this so let's take a look at Jin possession being they want

to do this because they want to harm mankind they want to create harm so tell me is this harmful uh a Jin comes inside my body and he just has Caton schizophren like catatonic schizophrenia which is like where you just freeze in a in a position or you twitch every now and then right or you just make weird [Music] sounds this this is the substantial harm let me tell you what these write that the Jin can do they say that the Jin can take any form they can even take inanimate form so all these people write

this in their books that means this screen that we are reading could be a Jin sorry or watching I maybe I'm not doing this this is perhaps just a gin pretending to be this screen right now maybe if you were the Jin and you wanted to create harm why not pretend to be a page in the Quran how do you know that the Quran you're reading is not a Jin or a page in it the Quran the true Quran is protected but that doesn't mean the the copy that you have has to be protected because there's printing errors in many prints of the Quran doesn't mean so how do you not know how do you not know that

the book that came to you from isn't actually a Jin telling you that the Jin can possess let's take it up a notch okay these the Jin that just go uh uh uh they must obviously be the low Q Jin what about the very intelligent super intellectual ones surely they must have the capacity of going undetected right so if some Jin have the capacity of going undetected that means many people could be possessed right now but we can't

tell so if you were a Jin trying to create harm what is the best way you would do it one you would go undetected two you would create Terror on Earth so all the terrorists in the world the major terrorist how do we not know that Isis for example are really just innocent people who have been possessed how can we hold anybody to account how can we punish people it's not their fault it's not his fault is a rapist he was just possessed it's not his fault he was a murderer he was possessed he didn't mean to to be a terrorist suicide bomber he

was just possessed at the time but the Jin was an intelligent gin it wasn't like a normal Jin it was an intelligent tell me wouldn't if you were trying to possess people and create harm the the the best way is to to do it undetected so many of these exorcists say that look uh oh that so and so's got a gin but we you know we can't tell properly see because the Gin is trying to go undetected so if you really wanted to create harm as a Jin for mankind what's the point of giving somebody a bloody trap nerve by just trapping by flipping

their shoulder and having catatonic schizophrenia every now and then you might as well become a terrorist because you can potentially trigger a World War so remember you want to you want to create maximum harm you might as well if you want to create religious harm you might as well become a page in the Quran that is wrong you might as well become a wrong book you might as well become a Facebook profile you might as well become a TV screen pretend people are watching TV they're not actually watching it maybe pretend that this is a she giving a speech it's not really a she the screen the whole screen is just a

Jin you see it sounds dumb all of a sudden how can you hold anybody to account for anything how can you punish people how can they be because really they could just be possessed so saying oh but what is the maximum that people can do maybe the Gin can't do where did you get that from that the Jin can't do that where did you get that from how oh but the Jin can't do that how do you place limits on the Jin how I'm sorry was that rationally textually how the hell did you place those limitations so a Jin can can be in

people can go undetected until the Exorcist picks up on it so you're telling me that some Gin who are a bit more intelligent through Evolution and through uh you know their own intelligent design they haven't figured that out and they can't go undetected so if they possess somebody then the best way is look we have to immediately absolve everybody from any crime because you have to rule on this you on the side of caution nobody can be accountable because it could be a gin Isis are probably just Gins they're probably innocent people who are just jins have

possessed them this is nonsense you see where this leads to there is no more liability in Islam then everything is ridiculous it is just oh it could be a Jin you see could somebody tell me for example 100% swear like these exorcists can they put their hand on the Quran and swear 100% that terrorists are not possessed can they do that can they say I can swear by Allah 100% no they will say look I don't believe they possessed but there's a chance so if there's a chance then how can you not rule on the

side of caution so this whole thing becomes stupid believing in Gin possessions just destroys the whole fundamental of not only Faith brings in superstitions it allows abuse to persist it catapults the entire Muslim Community into a medieval Society it allows the the Perpetual uh uh um allows us to perpetuate abuse in the name of this to make children and mainly women suffer because these are usually most of these are usually just attacks on children and

women and if Muslims didn't have this narrative it's only because we have this narrative that gyms exist that we buy into it and people say well oh if right if uh you know they say well if the G didn't exist well how did he get better well have you heard of the placebo effect have you heard of the placebo why don't you run a little search on Google and check the the scholarly art check the results the data results on placebo effect check it in double blind experiments check where you will

see people have actually recuperated from illnesses based on just Placebo medicine but given a good encouraging word it's when they buy into the narrative it works we have in dophins we have certain the brain releases certain selfhealing self therapeutic kind of neurotransmitters which activate good health they promote it likewise when you get stressed out you release certain neg you release certain neurotransmitters that cause negative impact this is why laughing is actually so good

for your health because you actually release a lot of you know many the brain goes into certain activity that actually promotes good health so the thing yes I I do have a degree in Psychology if you're asking but this is my interest it isn't just about the degree the thing is look when you say what about things like first of all saying things like the Quran when you use this word that the Quran

is Allah said it was a Quran was a cure for the hearts not for not medicine it wasn't medicine that if this was a cure from kufur it was a cure from it was a cure from Superstition it was a cure from having insecurities it was a cure from having it wasn't a cure for oh uh so if that if it was a medical cure then why were Muslims so immersed in trying to create medicine why didn't they just read Quran why is it the prophet said in a Hadith take

the Allah if he said if he allowed for a disease to manifest he allowed for a cure to manifest and he said in those who know of it know of it those who don't they are ignorant that there is a cure for everything out there he said search except death death is something that we will creatures all organisms living organisms will die but beyond that everything has a cure in the world not in the Quran it doesn't mean that oh the cure for cancer is the Quran the cure for headaches is the Quran the

cure for a broken leg is read the Quran that's not that's not medicine this is a cure for the heart Allah said read the verse the verse is talking about kufur he not talking about medicating it's not talking about medicine and health it's talking about kufur so I'm not saying that you don't have a blessing in the Quran you do have a blessing which does impact us but it's not medicine it's not talking about medicine right that is a misrepresentation so if you truly believe that then why is it you go for surgery why would you want your if your

father or your your mother or your relatives were going I don't know if they had any illness or they were having a some they needed a a bypass or they needed some kind of I don't know that some kind of infection why are you getting them treated why didn't you sit them down and play three Jews of the Quran why do why were Muslims the biggest proponents of hospitals throughout the Middle Ages why like this is nons like to say well oh no the Quran came as a medical shifa the Quran came as a spiritual theological shifa to rid

us of these kind of superstitious beliefs you see when the Quran came people were believing in statues they were believing in nonsense oh this comes and by the way they believed in these Monsters the the Arabic term for was where we get the English word ghouls from so the Arabic word in in Muslim the prophet said there is no such thing as but the Arabs used to believe in and there are actually even Hadith to speak about H can you believe but they're weak so the point is that these things

do people have them as beliefs they are nothing they're not even a stumbling block they're wall for our community the amount of harm that is done in the name of these things is nonsensical and I'm surprised but this is one thing that all groups have just kind of immersed themselves in so look people it is a it is a bitter pill to swallow that it is mental health okay and the Muslim communities are so averse to this thing of ment mental health they

want anything but mental health and the truth is our Muslim communities are living in so much trauma I mean they grow up in extended families they have bitter rivalries with people unnecessarily they have unnecessary tension they have like crazy rest restrictions um marriage is usually another whole level of drama within the Muslim communities they marry internally they marry people that they don't want to marry they have to live in Intimate sexual close relationships with people like they don't want to be in a

relationship with they usually there is there is a lot of not usually but there is a lot of abuse whether it's physical abuse in our communities mental abuse countless countless cases the amount of cases I speak to sometimes on a daily basis of emotional abuse of sometimes domestic violence um almost seriously if I if okay sometimes I distracted with other with other work but if I attend to it it's on a daily basis daily basis uh all of these things are

mentally traumatizing and women have more restrictions in our communities than men and so women they can't go out they can't have friends they can't and I know now things in this part of the world are changing but you know they are married off against their will they are forced to and they're the ones who have hysteria they're the ones who have like all these kind of mainly these kind of gin and all this kind of stuff so the truth is they need um they need they need to see a specialist that can help them a psychiatric specialist

okay they are these things are mental health I was telling you that I went once to see an exorcist and he actually allowed me to he allowed me to speak to the Jin I said that can I interview the Jin and so he said uh yeah and this guy himself was an exorcist but he used to also he was possessed as well because he said he couldn't take out his own gin because that was a really powerful gin and so thing is anyway I was a bit reluctant because guy was well stocky strong guy and I was thinking bloody hell he's

going to I'm sitting next to him so if anything happens he's going to obviously kill me first so anyway uh eventually so he agrees and he was very confident that the Gin won't harm me or anything so I was like okay then cool let's do this so he brings up the gin and he go this is exactly how he does it go m do you doubt it m and he speaks like this this was the whole interview was like that and so we get into a conversation so so what I

started to do was I I I just disrupted I was constantly disrupting his flow so when he would say something I would just interrupt him cuz it would knock him off balance because he wasn't expecting me to do that you see so so he would just say like uh so um I'm like sorry I asked your name and he'd be he'd be like uh I said that I'm sorry what part of name did you not understand what's your name and so so he was like uh so he said uh well my name is [Laughter]

HMA so so I asked him well HMA where are you from so he said ah I'm from The Valleys of Kashmir I said well wow I said well you're a Long Way from Home [Music] Soldier what the hell are you doing in the UK in in Birmingham so he said

oh he goes oh I'm with you know this person and I go well how long have you been with him he said well you know the usual scenario he was a little boy sitting under a tree you know the usual Newton story Isaac Newton an apple fell down under the tree here it's always a gin was sitting under a tree right so so I said okay I said well H so I said well why did you possess him see now this is interesting he said oh he said oh I love him so I said no I'm sure you love him see I didn't

realize he's I said I'm sure you love him but why did you possess him he goes no I love him so I was like oh let's talk about [Music] love this you're talking about the ho the homosexual love nutty nuty here's me thinking you're talking about Agape the humanitarian

love you're talking about OS the erotic kind of love so I said oh well that rather that is rather interesting this guy by the way hardcore practicing uh brother of extremely long beard extremely long I mean like really long like up to up to about the kind of long so not like just uh like literally not like your normal one fist like probably about four fists long like an whole

literally I'm not joking really long beard stocky bit scruffy at the time I'm sure he's fixed up by now but at that time really so I'm thinking whoo uh okay is see so straight away I started to realize okay I see what's going on here here is a guy who is religious and he's struggling with homosexual thoughts and to to think well how can I a person a practicing Muslim have thoughts of homosexuality it's so easy to displace that by by projecting this onto a demon

and then chastising the demon instead you see so the thing is look I I'm not saying the guy was fake I actually believe that he believed in what he what was happening he wasn't I don't think he was doing drama I think he actually had made himself believe in everything that was happening this is the thing you see it's psychological it's delusional beliefs it's not fake it's not like hey somebody's here so I'm just going to pretend to be ill you know like when you're trying to wag work here's a good one what you do is you put your head off the bed

like so you get that croaky voice and you're like sorry can't come in to work today a yeah I don't mean that one that we've all that we've all done ashick days right God the amount of Sickies I used to pull honestly anyway I'm I'm not talking about acting I'm talking about these people have delusion beliefs they may actually hear voices as well schizophrenia they may have borderline personality where they're having major

swings mood swings uh struggling to where they fear from things like loneliness where they you know part of borderline personality by the way is uh people they they see people as either extremely good or extremely bad and they can switch in a moment so if you're a villain you're a 100% villain and you and this guy is 100% a good guy and they can switch they can become a a clear villain in a second the other person not them the other like they can view the person and they become very paranoid extremely paranoid and um and and they fear

loneliness massively and and sometimes this is why they struggle with relationships because they have to call off relationships before getting rejection or they I mean I mean look some of these things may be to some extent normal having some fear of certain things in everybody but it's when that comes to you see the difference between a neurosis and a psychosis is having some weirdness or Oddity is normal in everybody that's neurotic Behavior not erotic neurotic okay so the thing is then when that becomes IND

discernable and IND distinguishable from reality that you can no longer break away from what's real at that moment it becomes psychotic that's the dangerous uh end okay so anyway this Jin uh I did ask this Jin by the way in that interview I asked him oh how old are you uh hokma so he goes I'm 500 years old I said oh I said 500 years old you you you I said tell me what languages do you speak so he said I speak

uru I go well that's funny because or was only about 2 to 300 years old what did you used to speak before that he was not expecting that one he had no idea he was like huh oh that was so funny so I tried speaking to him in Arabic obviously had no idea what I was talking about see the thing is people they buy into these narratives okay now there have been a lot of uh let me try and take some people's questions so you mean there is nothing like demonic possession

or possession by jins not at all there is no such thing as demonic possessions okay this is psychological and people need help and I understand why people get offended because they get offended because it's they you see imagine somebody dear to them like imagine my mother was struggling from something and I don't I will now struggle to say she's going maybe mental or she's having mental look by the way there's many disorders like let me give you an example there's some which are not not psychotic like there's a a disorder known as uh the Charles um

Charles Bonet syndrome okay now you can check this one up this is where there will be some abnormality in the fusiform gyrus uh of the brain which deals with things like recognition of usually that's where you have the uh the FFA as well the facial fusiform area how we can distinguish faces human faces and stuff like that so sometimes there's actually a condition when you can't you can no longer recognize human faces as recognizable and that's when the FFA is affected in the brain but the fusiform gyus that can develop some abnormalities uh in the Charles Bonet

syndrome where it will affect certain neurons that uh that that that c certain aspects of the brain that deal with recognition of things like uh geometric space with teeth with faces with and there's there's a good case there's actually I tell you there's a good interview by a famous neurologist it's actually on TED Talks as well uh Oliver saxs you can check that out and he gives a good account of when he went to this place and there was this lady who's is becoming really old she's in a care home and she keeps seeing these people and

and everybody thinks she's mental and he asks her about and he says she says I see people in eastern dress and and and he says what are they doing says they're not doing anything they're just there sometimes and he says sometimes they have really long sharp teeth and she says sometimes their faces stretch and she goes and sometimes I see like there shapes and it goes like from the ceiling to the floor the whole thing is this geometric space and buildings sometimes but and he asks her are they attacking you or CH she says no she says except I know they're not real but they're not a dream they feel like watching a

movie and he explains to her that this is the Char Bonny syndrome and and the whole thing is but anyway you can do research Arch on this as an as an example where they've actually seen in patients the same neural activity so these people saying they see teeth the same neural activity in in normal specimen when they are looking at teeth is lighting up in this brain here and and this usually happens the Charles Bonny syndrome when somebody's sight or sometimes they hearing is becoming impaired

so as they start to lose sight the brain is trying to compensate and that results sometimes in abnormal activity in certain in that region of the brain and it triggers hallucinatory kind of effects and this has been tested it's been this isn't just something I'm just saying oh it's a theory this is tested it's not a so you see things there's also things like uh uh like you you you will see um another interesting one people with the palinopsia okay where they will see

after images now we all see after images so if I look at this if I look at something bright and I look away I can still see the light an after image of it but it's very faint but you but some people have a very strong they suffer from this palinopsia that they have a very strong actual after image and you can go on YouTube and people have actually done Recreations of so when I look at this phone and I Look Away there I will see the exact same phone as real as there over there and they that will happen with people as well and that too is because of abnormality and certain neural activity that shouldn't be happening but is happening in the brain

now if they saw a phone and you saw the phone again it doesn't mean the phone really exists there doesn't mean you've got two phones now but the same thing if they saw someone and looked away and saw somebody again standing in the other it's you can imagine how people like this in a rural part of the world can so easily think it's a demon so things like this I'm just giving you examples of um many conditions that can be thoroughly explained today um right okay let's uh let's take a look at some of the questions are we talking about dinosaurs not but I would love to talk about

dinosaurs inshallah uh Someday I'm totally fascinated with the one with I am fascinated with psychology but I'm fascinated with things like anthropology and just archaeology and the study of of just you know just just life on Earth and physics I'm so fascinated with that as well but why human beings ought to be very kind of curious about learning right so let's uh I want to take a look if there were some questions that were being um praying with the Gin I can't see any questions I can see amazing you could be on the

ex on the on the dead what is it the walking dead or right please clarify uh somebody said can you please clarify sahkari 3,268 yeah okay let me just pull that up 3,000 the one about no sorry that's 3,267 uh 3 come on bro what do you think I'm a walking talking database at least share the Hadith that you want us to clarify I mean attempted black magic on the

prophet Sall alaihi was look magic as well there is it's it's link that is a separate topic but there was no such thing as see all Muslims accept that magic is at best magic is an illusion they all accept this it's simply simply illusory t tactics and things like hypnosis mind control they accept that is what is meant by Magic then beyond that they all disagree there is no agreement beyond that so some people will say beyond that oh you can affect people other people

say no you can't one of the people who uh early imams who denied that was Imam Abu hanifah he said no you can't and everywhere the word magic comes in the Quran it is only talking about Illusions so Allah says they did Magic on the eyes of people and it was made to appear as a as an imagination to them that the snakes were moving from their magic th this is how Allah describes magic in the Quran and even with harut and marut that when

they were taught people it doesn't say that they were taught them what it was it just says tactics by which they SP created enmity amongst people and this could be done through uh it doesn't have to be through Hocus Pocus and sit there and stab a doll it could be done through things like mind control through uh certain strategies through being conniving Behavior through things like this and look today there is actual research this kind of stuff there is actual research people speak about telepathy on having recorded messages through enhanced radio

uh Transmissions so Electro uh electric kind of Transmissions through enhanced radio uh waves can be sent to somebody and because our brain actually look there's four forces yeah in you know you've got obviously the gravitational the electromagnetic you've got the nuclear forces the strong and the weak you do know that our brain uh is the only part of our body that generally uh that that has electroactivity okay actually the neural activity is electronic it's actually measured in electric waves right so there's been studies on how people can

through certain uh Electro especially enhanced radio waves and stuff like this they can pick up certain things but this is not magic okay this is actually science and physics explaining that it's not uh you know it's not something magical that oo Hocus Pocus oo Wizardry so these things at best when we say magic at best it's like mind control through hypnosis okay and and Illusions this thing about magic being done on the prophet sallallah alaihi wasallam is an incident which I do not believe to be accurate um we can dedicate another

session sometime to that there were many earlier on in our tradition as well who rejected things like that they said it was not only a fabrication but it was an insult and an affront to the prophet sallallah alaihi wasallam I do not believe it's nonsensical to believe that the prophet was impacted by Magic it's nonsense it's an insult and an affront to the honor of the messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihi wasallam they say he became sexually impotent and things like this ridiculous I mean I'm ashamed by the the uh and disappointed by the Muslims who normally claim to

love the prophet Sall alaihi was so much allowed and conceded to this transmission as being authentic and then accepting it this is insulting it is nothing but blasphemy right I I condemn that narration I do not accept it some Jewish guy did this and the prophet would forget things he wouldn't know or whe whether he's had sex or not and stuff like this and this is what this is what they this is in sah sah Muslim what nonsense is this right Allah says what condemns those people that

say verse of the Quran Allah says those people are speaking nonsense who say that you follow a man who magic has been done onto so this means well magic could have been done onto the prophet and they go oh yeah but it was done onto him but but but not when he was being a prophet not when he was speaking about Islam well how do you know how do you know because you're saying the prophet didn't know when magic was done unto him he only found out afterwards so how do you not know then how do you not know that there could have been some rulings he gave under the influence of my how do you not know how do you know with certainty they go oh but Allah wouldn't

let that happen well apparently he did apparently by your transmission you saying well Allah did let it happen or but he let it happen some of the times well how do you not know that more powerful magic wasn't done and more effective that couldn't have been detected stupid stupidity nonsense and I find this seriously an affront and an insult to the honor of the best of creation uh according to all Muslims that that we should believe that the prophet was impacted uh where he became forgetful

and clumsy and and and he became like this is what the narration say he became clumsy and forgetful and wouldn't know when he's done something and he'd be all lost and and this is what the narration say that he was confused all the time and lost and stuff like this an attack on Islam at the heart of Islam that is right so I do not accept that narration and to me clashes with the verse of the Quran where Allah condemns those people who say magic uh could you follow a man who magic has been done onto because then that is true magic was done onto him for a particular period but it's true to some extent it's true then and

then Allah is wrong so we have to draw our our understanding okay so I do not accept those things um it's very very nonsensical so I mean that is uh like I said magic at best uh as it's explained in the Quran is speaking about illusory uh activities which create Illusions things like subliminal control uh things like uh hypnotic Behavior mind control these kind of things are what people traditionally referred to as magic okay it's not an actual and some people but by the way there's certain Muslims who believe you

can actual do chemical changes chemical property changes so I can turn this glass into into a car they've actually beat the Medieval ages they've gone like 2,000 years behind in the other direction you can do chemical property change they believe okay that's

interesting anyway so this kind of stuff see it makes a mockery out of Islam okay makes a mockery out of Islam so I mean anyway that's uh so when people say oh through magic we had uh uh such and such Jin sent at you it's not actually true that didn't actually happen like that let's see actually I don't know whether I have been uh right guys I think actually we've done quite a bit let's uh I'm just no yeah no messages there so let's see if there were any last questions I'll take them um uh it's a selfie camera yep can Gins

affect people without actual possession Gins do not affect human beings they have their own realm we have our own realm um you know we just get on with life as it is okay what's the validity of amulet' treatments um used amulets as incantations for fever and sorry uh I'm not sure about that narration Malik reporting right there uh in the M went to oh damn I can't read the rest of the comment right the thing is have allowed amulets many of them have they've allowed things like

they call them tamima in Arabic or and and in U uh PE they were generally not supportive of them some many especially the early they were kind of like well if it encourages and helps people they kind of allowed it but the Sala didn't have a culture of these kind of things Imam Malik uh the Maliki School generally says uh that they didn't definitely didn't like this kind of thing as prevention but to help somebody get over something they wouldn't mind so the ABD if you read abd's discussion in thear he

highlights that and how Aisha commented on it so that's what I would say is that look these kind of things they don't have a um they're definitely not MediCal cures okay they may have like a blessing but I I actually would advise against them I wouldn't advise people to wear amulets uh to wear Tavis because all it leads to is unfortunately Superstition so it leads to people just a sense of dependency a a dependency culture where people now say oh uh oh my God because because I haven't got my with me something bad is going to happen and one

of the things that Islam condemned so harshly was Superstition and the prophet used to hate Superstition it says in a he did like a positive kind of om but he hat hated he hated and couldn't stand um bad like things to do with bad Omen Superstition stuff like that so that kind of stuff and I feel amulet fall exactly into that look if you want to if you want to pray to Allah then as the Hadith says you know your lord is neither deaf nor you know and neither

far just call out to Allah he is in front of you as Allah says in the Quran that that that when my servant when when your servant asks you about me tell him I am close I am close by that I respond to he who calls out to me so just if you want to call out call out to Allah you don't need I don't need something hanging off my neck to call out to Allah okay or to protect me from Evil har and Mar according to certain

people they like to say um were uh were things like um were Angels that's not true uh some people have said they were Jin or demons like uh what's his name uh like IM has gone to other people have felt maybe these were the Kings um uh and it wasn't meant to read malikain it was read as malikain and so on but there's a whole discourse but the point is there's these two figures which Allah mentions in the Quran They Don't Really impact they don't carry any substantial value beyond

that so it's nothing to kind of get so distracted about yes some maybe psychological issues well Naz Khan I disagree strongly I believe all of these things there is no substantiation in the Quran for uh gin possession there is nothing in the Sunnah it is neither uh it is neither textual more rational I'll tell you what it is it is experiential when you ask people why do they believe in Jin it's because they think they've experienced something that that they already have a narrative for that's all it is but then tell me why do how do successful exorcisms work in the name of ram in the

name of Vishnu in the name of Jesus Christ why do those Gins get tort why does it work so so really all of so they must have some truth to it as well and if we're going to expect if we're going to accept experiences then why don't we accept all experiences why don't we accept reincarnations why don't we accept because why not I mean the famous cases of uh what's her name um D cran or whatever that the the young girl who who described in detail her previous life and many other cases what about why don't we if it's about experiences and Witnesses why don't we

accept the witnesses who say that the the the the that they've seen in the hundreds and thousands and millions have seen the Miracles of the Hindu sadus why don't we accept them why don't you even entertain it for a minute you wouldn't even entertain uh let's say one of the most recent very popular Hindu um swamis Satya saaba I mean you wouldn't entertain somebody like his miracles for even a second yet he has millions of witnesses for his for his why don't you accept it it's just bigotry it's pure

hypocrisy double standards you see you will use reason to dismiss it immediately when it's not your religion so the truth is this is not from Islam so don't use religion to justify and then if it's experiences then why not accept everybody's experiences why is it you only accept yours must be true and all Hindu experiences are nonsense and false why are Hindu experiences false why why can't Hindu experiences be true when they say you know Lord Ram appeared as an avatar in such and such why can't it be true why is it that Vishnu truly hasn't

visited people why isn't it true why why when they say that Hanuman did all these things why is it not true The Story of Ganesha why is this not true what give me your evidences you're just going to rely on reason but yet when I present the same reason to you then you rely on experience and that to subjective anecdotes just stories of people stories can be obliterated within seconds because there's so many confounding variables there's already a schema of ritualism a narrative of demonic possessions there's

so much psychological play some agency at play that you can't it's not impartial so this is where many Muslims are so bigoted on their stances that they don't you see this first of all you have to understand this is not religion but then when I present when I say to you why are you so dismissive of other people's experiences and stories just go on Google YouTube the amount of Hindu ex experiences the amount of stories of reincarnation with detail the amount of Miracles that Hindu sadhus have performed

that Hindu swamis have performed the amount of people that have claimed to have been in contact with Vishnu why do you reject these not even for not even for five seconds do you entertain this not even for five seconds why cuz because you say it's irrational it doesn't make any sense so tell me how is Islam known to be made sense how do you know Islam makes sense how do you know because of Reason IM in his he said it's ridiculous

to mock the intellect he said it is through the intellect he said that he said with the intellect and reason we only know that Islam is true how do you know Islam is true how do you know what just because you were born Muslim it made it true why is Islam true why why isn't all this other stuff true have you ever reflected have you ever it's because of reason and the intellect that we analyze and evaluate these different uh claims and we find them nonsensical not just because I was born on Islam my parents were Muslim

therefore Islam is Al it doesn't work like that that's stupid that's dumb Islam is true through reason and intellect we believe it to be true because it has stood the text test it has stood the test of scrutiny it has stood the test of evaluation it has stood the test of criticism not because oh I had a great feeling they just felt so good that's that's ridiculous you could lie in a spa and have a greater feeling that doesn't mean anything so I'm sorry to say but these demonic possessions cause so much harm and they

are not even an aspect of Islam they are not even first of all except they're not a part of our beliefs although people have made them such a passionate topic people get so offended did you know in our tradition there is actually valid within the tradition writes in one of his book it is also said from some of the sahabah that they believed that hell was not Eternal that hell would freeze over that is actually a belief is believed to also be the belief of now this is incorporated as okay people don't accept it but it's a view

yet people get so worked up when you tell them that gin possession isn't true and this isn't even part of our belief [Laughter] structure anyway people inshallah look U and trust me the Jin the Jin are not interested in your love life okay the Gin are not even a different they're not they're not even a different species people they're not you have the whole thing okay so you're going to obviously go right down

from you you're going to look at U it's going to be obviously philm Kingdom class order all of these they are a complete C I mean they they would what fall into I don't know a whole different why they a different film a different Kingdom I I would say at the at the top they entire different they're not a different species or uh or a different genus or a different order or a family or a different order or a class or a film they are a different Kingdom it's like saying do you fall in love with bacteria does somebody say hey I'm I'm

I'm madly in love with that virus you don't how the hell do you fall in love with the virus what the hell is wrong with you it's not they're not like a different they're not animals but by the way are a different they fall within the same Kingdom okay it depends so they might even be primates they might even be you know different orders different families different but they're from this things they're from this Kingdom so when you say Jin they're not even from our kingdom I don't mean Kingdom the English word Kingdom okay I mean the whole thing so

tell me how do how do Jinn fall in love with insan that's ridiculous it's dumb it doesn't make any sense right so they've got no interest in your love life okay in saying oh so so what happens is human beings just have a bad like look it's it's a human issue after a while people fall out with people people fall out of friendships if you went back in time and met yourself 10 years ago you'd probably give yourself a slap [Laughter] for being so obnoxious so this is you probably we can't stand

ourselves so imagine you've got two people in a relationship who are living together and they're both continuing to develop one may develop differently the other differently then you have things like desensitization because in the modern family structure everybody's always in each other's face so obviously with desensitization there's going to be things like naturally sexual desensitization there's going to be things like normal bickering fundamental need for human space gets compromised and people don't have their own space their own time they have other stresses maybe Financial maybe other thing familial involvement there's fights going on this human personalities

conflict so with all this going on they say oh you know what it is I I know what it is it it's a gin a gin has come and wrecked my love life so so some guys uh no bro that's like that's like saying a bacteria's come and has ruined my love life the bacteria is

jealous so ridic that's like saying my goldfish is so jealous that my goldfish has ruined my love life anyway people let's inshallah may Allah give us all the ability to kind of wisen up a bit and kind of improve and help deal with these situations those people who are suffering I don't think they're doing it as a drama those who are truly suffering I feel that they have just bought into this narrative which they already have may Allah make things easy for them I hope they do seek out professional help and hopefully that you

know they can undergo some therapy they can undergo some treatment and and improve and and in time Muslims will continue especially in the west I hope to move away from these kind of superstitions right people with that I'm going to leave you to it inshallah so I'll catch you on Monday on my Monday nights with Muti till then if you're on Facebook add me inshallah likewise on Twitter you can follow me and on Snapchat it's Mal 2014 M m2014 you can can inshallah shoot me your questions I'll try to respond whenever I can so till then right remember me in your duas take very good

care of yourselves people till next week