Unravelling Resilience | Meaning with MALM #6

all right people alright let me just as always i have to first and foremost do a sound check all right so let me just see all right we've got straight away i'm wilkinson from morocco

what is going on firstly let me just do a sound check i need to see that let me just check this is [Music] being heard loud and clear okay so and i'll also pull out whilst we're waiting the chat separately for youtube

right so sometimes there's a lag and that way i'll have that separate okay let me just enlarge this take this back down alright so here we are people here we are right so uh can you all salaam mufti you use sound is perfect sugar nayub i appreciate that that's what i was waiting for someone to tell me

and as always people swag at them swag at them so what is going on why is this so late that is a good question that is a good question well you know my response to that is it's early somewhere i'm an international person yeah so what is going on we've got quite a few things to take a look at today i'll just bring some up here and just show you on the slide right so we're going to take a look at the concept of

tawakkul from the quran i think that's incredibly important in line with that i thought it'd be good to share a story of an incredible personality historic islamic personality abdullah ibn mahariyah also known as right so then i'd been asked a question um by by various people over the past i don't know a few months now and somebody asked it again recently

about does god hate the pig so i thought yeah it's about time i kind of shed or you know tackle this question for some people if it can help them and maybe you can kind of give them a greater connection all right so following that so we're going to take a look at that topic as well and then i'll obviously i'll take your questions and then a bit of meet and greet as always as always people so um and then

yeah then we'll call it a night where is the bengali welcome what is the bengali welcome i need to i need to do that as well all right so what is going on daniel you doing a team intense fitness you do and you learn zetta layla of rye so people what is going somebody wrote the bengali welcome in bengali but i won't be able to read that so they said

oh here it is let's bring it up man bring it up on the screen right so people now what else before we begin anything to um to kind of wet the appetite

i had to have iced coffee you know there's a bit of a heat wave going on in the uk no problem man hope that's not a troll cuss word right shukran shukran right somebody said can they ask a question cello

right was there anything on my mind before i jump into this topic as well any let me just check my notes sometimes i make some notes oh i'd like to uh whilst we're beginning make a dua for ustad osama who's passed away may after battling with als may allah bless his afterlife grant him an elevated makami genital fertos and grant

his family ease yeah you know right hmm i've seen a lot of posts i didn't make a post about ustad osama cannon i mean i didn't feel the need to do so i thought well i think everybody pretty much knows and yeah but i want to say

that i saw a lot of very nice posts about him which is brilliant and much needed but at the same time it kind of it disappointed me you see us if we're going to be honest was betrayed by his own community by the imams by the clerics by the the

industry um and he was just left out you know hung to dry you just kind of like just left there really just to bleed out metaphorically and i'm not saying about right or wrong i actually did speak out about his case previously and spoke out about uh the kind of cries outcries that people were making against him against him and i did state as always that look

this trial by media is just this it's nothing but pantomime okay and there's unfortunately we have a generation of social media narcissists who are just this generation me me me and you can't really pander to these people if there's ever issues that are criminal people should pursue them through the legal roots if there's other things people should but they should i like it just seeing all these

nice words that people were now saying about him that he passed away and when he was defenseless and people were attacking him left right and center and his center his own creation ta'alief was snatched away from him from what i'm aware of allah but he was removed and this is something he created and people profited of him and he was in a debilitating disabled state and yet no imam i'm not aware of really

spoke out in any kind of defense even for him not even a nice word you know because it was too dangerous for their own credibility it was too um it would bring too much heat and it's not worth the fight but now that he passes it's nice to say something nice you always come out as another good guy and it's disenchanting isn't it it's disenchanting i you know i i i saw it and a lot of people and it's nice that

these things are being said and allah bless his afterlife but we as a community are really just a shambles ain't we as a muslim community this is why you know i i don't these are my thoughts i'm saying them as i feel them i've always you know been someone that i will just speak my mind if i want to say something i'll say it and yeah you know it um

that's excuse that that's uh there's a there's a poem actually it'll be quite relevant israel the poet says [Laughter] says if if i'm not even if i'm young so what he says i've seen all phases of life the landscape of life i've seen it he says i've seen

the deceptive smiles of people and i've seen the hidden daggers that people carry but yeah may allah bless him i don't know it was you know i i i thought chello let's say it they may upset some people but nothing new there oh mahmoud abdullah for the super chat much love much love dearly appreciate it um

yep so all right we've got shalom jesus is the only way to the father if jesus was the only way to the father then who was jesus his way to the father that's a good question isn't it if now i love jesus somebody said are you calling the messiah a liar we love jesus muslims love jesus

right so right let's uh move into some of these topics that we want to take a look at and so then we can come back to your questions those of you that have just tuned in click like click share people you know the drill spread the love man spread the love people spread the love see that's always the two things if i could say that

or if i was to add it into three cellos three let's do three huh one is to always have some backbone to you and two to be full of laughter and three to spread love see that those things in and of themselves will be emblematic of your faith right so the injeel is what i stand on alright i

appreciate that that's good the injeel is yeah okay let's begin people so what i wanted to do was take a look at how the quran highlights tawakkul trust reliance on god uh the subtopic i thought i'll introduce i've introduced him before but i thought it's relevant to mention the story again and does god detest the pig does god hate the pig as uh absurd or as wild as a question as that may seem many people ask it and i think in many ways it's a good question

and we'll get to that but let's begin first of all with um before anything if you haven't watched my mind trap which it was actually episode 59 i've got to correct that um it was with dr mukhtar khan we discussed ibn arabi istihad and hassan amongst many other things i really enjoyed discussing speaking and just really engaging with um ustad dr mukhtar khan really a

pleasant pleasant personality so if you haven't checked that out after this show of course do check it out spread the love man spread the love so all right let's let the slide move on and while starts happening i'll get my all right so let's begin with tawakkul

all the beloved shaytan regime people i want us to take a look at a few verses today just two or three verses on and i thought this was incredibly important we began there with the top verse being surah ibrahim i believe yes it is surah ibrahim and we've got the verse 12 now i thought let's begin with that verse that why should we not rely on god

why should we not do that put our trust in god and we will certainly endure or be patient on whatever harm that you whoever the you is afflicts us those who are to rely let them rely on god let's take a look at the second verse now this is uh really important as well and i'm going to come back to just why i

think this was an imp uh really touching topic for today this is from surah talaq and you've got verse 3 and just before the ending of verse 2 which is not only whosoever is mindful of god you have that taqwa allah will always have a way for them

and by here here by way i mean like an exit to get out of any struggle or challenge or problem that they may be stuck in then the following verse says note that these are they've got a second year why because it's the reply to a condition

whosoever is mindful this will happen it's they call it uh joomla so it's a conditional sentence if you do this whosoever does this then this happens and whosoever relies on god allah is sufficient for him

allah will surely see to his affair and allah has set a destiny or a decree with every matter now let me just see that i have another verse here on the same topic and then i just wanted to highlight and explain this because so often people let me just see first

yes and this was one we covered before from imran and people often say ali imran and that's correct you can read it with the kasra because the word surah is missing if you've decided on a matter then have reliance and trust right let's bring those three verses in and there's several others so there's about i think 37 places in the quran that this this word tawakkul is used okay now this

is one of the most important messages that you can take away no matter what struggle you are going through in life it comes back to your trust your reliance most of the verses to do with tawakkul here the one i shared here said that those who are going to rely but most of them say those who have faith let them rely believe me that the power

of reliance it is no short than i mean it does it is something that you can move mountains with this take any incident in your life and this is why i use that i brought that that ver that verse first

why because take any incident that has happened to you in your life in the past any you've got through it in that verse we are being reminded why should we not rely why shouldn't we have talked i've got this problem going on i've got this calamity i've got this why should and have we not had problems in the past

yet we made it through always just you will have some frame of reference and the problem the challenge may be new but one of the one of the core fruits of faith is having that trust but once you have trust what do you do what do you do you leap you have to take that step just having tawakkul

that's great but that's the first part so the hadith of the prophet but then tie the camel because the person had a camel and he came and he was going somewhere and the prophet asked him are you not going to tie it and he said i have tawakkul the prophet said that's excellent have but tie the camel and then have to you see you have to then strategize you have to then leap and

one of the most amazing places now think about this the second second verse i shared with you one second verse i shared with you is in surah talaq now just think about that this is one of the greatest challenges for people even in modern society it's relationships and tearing away from someone in any form of a relationship this is obviously spousal but it could be parental child it could be a business

relationship it could be there is always the fear of risk that damn you know i'm going to be worse off what am i going to do about that money that i depended on what where am i going to get that from especially in divorces so many people cling onto a relationship and that is toxic and they are and unfortunately you know most of these people being women they will cling and hold on to a very toxic abusive relationship

out of fear that how will i sustain myself where will i and this is where in surah talaq that second verse you can see this from surat allah verse 3 that allah will provide them risk from where they can't even imagine but you have to take that leap in life whatever it is whether that particular verse is about talk but the others are not about the talking about

life struggle we allah we are enduring this affliction whatever the affliction may be illness health wealth properties families natural disasters any form of crises you have that torah the other most important thing here is par link to the strategizing is you leaping when you leap forward to actually achieve

nothing is going to just land from the sky nothing even and one i've shared this before one of the greatest lessons you get from um [Music] where allah speaks about maryam salam that when she's following labor when she's heavily pregnant then gives birth and she's hungry she's hungry she's on her own she's isolated and she needs food and she's at this palm tree but what does what is the commandment who's the elected

you know no just make dua and this will happen no you have to do it you have to take the steps but with a sense of reliance shake the tree and the fruits come down so that's to someone like maryam who is at the very least a mother of the prophet of a prophet a great prophet in islam jesus isa al-islam and according to many people she herself is a prophetess in islam so that is one of the most no matter every

single one of us at the end of the day is going to be facing some difficulty in life do not forget this okay allah will treat you as you expect of him whosoever does this then allah has got allah has got them but if you don't expect that if you don't have that trust and you think you know allah doesn't really you know he's not going to listen to me i'm too much of a sinner i'm too much of at least i'm too then that's how allah is going to treat

you so these verses people no matter what setback you face in life grasp have your kul but strategize and then at times you have to take we don't know the future we can't sometimes you got to take a risk you know and so be it and you if you got to step back you step back then you leap forward okay so

i wanted to share that as a reminder and then i thought look speaking of calamities speaking of tragedies that before people there's nothing quite like taking an eyebrow taking a moral from a story so a great example to to cite here in line with tawakkul in line with calamities in line with disasters and something i've shared often before right and i always think is a great story to share

if you think calamities you know have afflicted you in your life and they may have and they you know they don't discriminate however here check this out imagine being royalty here is an individual who is he by the way he is a prince we're talking about a century after the prophet

he's a prince from the many princes of bani umayyad umayyad dynasty which is in its decline and he's living life he's chilling he's he's got it all wealth dunya women he's got it all family he's got he's one of many princes living in damascus what happens all of a sudden is he comes out one day

and whoa he sees these black flags isis perhaps not too different actually at that point it was the abbasids the abbasids had done a coup military coup they're taken over and what they were doing was they were hunting out seeking out and hunting every umayyad every person royal elite linked to bani umeya and they were

laying him or her not so much her but more so him to death wiping out they were wiping out the entire patrilineal lineage it was all going down any person that was a part of the royal family was going to be exterminated and who is he so those of you that know a bit about history he is his name

so his granddad hisham is one of the major last caliphs of bani umeja and his dad wasn't a caliph and he's the grandson and he's just basically living life so he sees this oh my god what's going on him and his brother and they're like let's let's get out of here and he has a baby he's actually when he sees this he's his baby was crying and he decides to walk let's let's pacify the baby so he's taking the baby out walking pacifying the child and he sees these people coming these army soldiers of the abbasid soldiers hunting out on my

years he sees the flags he runs in he hides he gives the child to the mother he grabs them anything he can get hold of him and his brother as a younger brother they are gone out of there they go running people are being massacred massacred there was a bloodbath that was taking place it is some some of the soldiers see him and they say oh that's that's one of the princes catch him so they are on the chase these guys are running running they

reach the euphrates throw themselves in you know there's death in this death so they throw themselves in and right that's my my private jets right so the the soldiers and check this out the soldiers are like damn because they're too scared the current is too powerful he's a good swimmer he makes it across his younger brother early teens he's he's a bit he's struggling a bit in the river in the euphrates so the soldiers cut him a deal they say you

know what come back come back you know we'll relax you know oh do you think we're gonna hurt you this is a game man we're playing the game so they say to him you know what come back come back we're not going to kill you you know we're just going to we'll give you our word yellow yeah have the word man in the beginning there was the word and here's my word he's given it so his brother whose name was walid he thinks you know what i'm going to come back and he tells his bro no

he goes back as soon as he gets out of the river in front of him whilst he's on the other side of the bank the riverbank they hold his younger brother who is probably about 13 and they slit his throat right in front of him and this is his last this is what he gets to experience he runs he runs as fast as his legs can carry him he says that if i could i would have taken flight

aviation huh so he runs and he gets he just traveled and you know this is all these journeys of him trying to get out of the ghost heads down south he's just non-stop traveling traveling traveling in his mind he thinks where do i go where do i go so because he's trying to keep a low profile obviously umayyad prince huge price on his head so he makes his way down towards the arabian peninsula over into egypt and then he finds more hostile territory and he had some relatives deep down in libya

further down in africa so he heads over to there because he was partially berber his mom's side were berber so he heads there and he seeks sanctuary so he's kind of hiding he's in hiding there and he just stays there now think about this he's lost everything overnight he lost royalty luxury family child wife brother he lost money legacy everything has gone the whole kingdom is gone

so he's living almost an impoverished life with certain barbers in libya now he keeps himself to himself he starts trying to but then check this out you see you have the tawakkul but then you have a strategy so he thinks after a while when he collects his senses you know what i wonder if there's any other bani umayya alive or sympathizers so he starts writing letters to certain people obviously he didn't have a social media man

he couldn't just do a live stream so right so he starts writing out to different people trying to test the water see what's going on and time goes by and he's strategy and he realizes he has some sympathizers he has sympathizes in yemen he has sympathizers in some in the arabian peninsula some in egypt but not many and he's thinking yeah it's been years now i've been living in libya like a pauper what do i do shall i go to egypt shall i go to arabian peninsula should i go and then

he's like too dangerous and he's got this servant with him and the servants kind of advising very wise person telling him look don't don't don't be silly man so eventually what happens and i can't go into the full detail but there was an entire there was a power vacuum taking place in andalus muslim spain the bani umayya had lost their control before the massacres a year before and there was just a void there was a power struggle random people would try and take over somebody says to him why don't you head

over to al andalus and he says whoa andalus yeah what this one man and so they say to him look there is a struggle due to certain racist discriminatory and racist factors in a landlord the arabs and the barbers were at odds with each other so because you have barbara ties and you are bani omaya the legacy so what if you write to them and ask them would they support you so he starts this strategy and he starts

writing and he starts getting some positive feedback and then he thinks okay this is you know people are saying yeah come over we'll support you so he sends his servant to kind of like test the waters everything's cool and then he goes on his own single-handed nothing no car you know no cavalry nothing no backup just on his own him and his assistant that's it what follows is he is he lands at this place called munyakaar actually i may have a um i'll try and

bring up here actually i may have a yeah so this is which is in south spain uh not too far from malaga and that's actually a statue of him because this is where he lands and when he gets there you know he's very intelligent incredibly astute he connects he's very courteous he's very charming has incredibly charming personality and as you can imagine there's an ensuing battle that takes place and he is actually successful his little

group of people they are successful triumphant in that battle and he shows clemency as well now this is interesting you see he has a strategy he has character because that is important and there's a point when he overcomes the other people that some of the the people with him want to massacre them and he says no don't it says you should always show clemency kindness and compassion and he says that it will come back to help us on a rainy day and it does in the future

but here he is and he goes on to set up he is known as because he enters a landlord again and he establishes sets into motion an entire empire that will change the course of not only islamic but human history the civilization that he sets into motion he sets into motion by setting up

this empire bunny umayya in al andalus were one of the most opulent and flourishing kingdoms on earth that centuries down the line a few centuries his own offspring his great great great great grandson will go on to declare himself the caliph of the entire muslim world abdul rahman the third anna and in his time europe was beholden to his grace and he was very gracious and it is a time of immense prosperity for muslim spain

now hold that thought go back to where i was telling you in the beginning how this starts these abbasids who have come in and abbasids later on go on to become you know uh they have a huge legacy as well but in the early days they were very brutal as well like many people it's always it's always the brutality first so in the early days they were you know very just massacring people and killing people and and they made certain attempts to have abdul-rahman assassinated in muslim spain but it was unsuccessful

and you know on this one occasion you've all heard of abu dhaf he is the contemporary the great caliph who was the contemporary of abu hanifa and imam malik and all these you know this one who punished abu hanifa put him in prison and arguably killed him or at least contributed to the death of imam abu hanifah but he was is is incredibly is infamously well known um

once abu dhabi mansoor is sitting chilling in his palace and he randomly says he says i've got i got one for you i got a question who is the falcon of quraish the falcon man the falcon so they say obviously ah up up sycophants in it he says he says seriously who is the uh the falcon so they say you know so they start guessing all these people beginning from

the great khalafar write down all of them he says no no no no no he says they're great but no no no no no say who you are who man he says and they said why abdul-rahmani namawiyah he says this man harajab nafsihi that he left here on his own

only all he had was his own his own kind of opinion his belief that's all he had and he left he said ya burul he had to cross a desert here to ride the sea he entered a non-arab foreign land non-arabic speaking entered a land like that a different continent

says fajana he says he amassed an army not just any army by at his death he stood with an army of a hundred thousand strong and he entered single-handedly he says janna set up a master an army he set up he says he created cities

he said he set into motion again an empire that had long deceased bani umayya they are deceased in in the east abbasids had killed them he set that into motion again which was yet to last for at least two to three centuries to come and be one of the most powerful kingdoms on earth in its time and he says only because of his strategizing washington and his sheer determination his reliance

he was a person that you when you think of it he he was on the brink of death adasa somebody who he wasn't you know he wasn't he didn't have any talents in damascus he was just one of many royal spoiled brats that was just living life lavishly just like an over a child man basically a man child but when he he was put on the testing times he rose he had tawakkul he had reliance

he went on to shape the cause of islamic history to come allah there are so many examples that we have in our history where when you see what these people do the inspiration really it rocks your world like you think wow somebody so close to an nde near death experience going on to become a major figure that sets an empire he recreates an entire empire not just any

one of the most powerful to come on earth for centuries and that is you see whosoever relies on god god is sufficient for that so that is something people that we can all take lessons from and obviously there's many other stories in there i had to leave out there's always you know with royalty and all these things there's always betrayal and these stories huh what's that he says

miss [Laughter] says says i'm an orphan prince surrounded by conspiracies there is a hidden dagger somewhere seeking me out

allah so right let's take a look at right somebody said what happened to his wife and child that he lost i i think unfortunately they i think they may have been killed or displaced at the very least i think the child may have been killed because they would have sought out the bloodline especially male they may have spared the wife because

she probably wasn't royalty but they would have killed the child i mean he probably put the child in the hope that they can't catch the child because they don't know because only a baby how do they know whose baby it is but we don't really hear of the child but yeah but great tests and trials just goes to show people sometimes in life even if you take a few steps back use that to leap forward [Laughter] that's how it should be

right so let's take a few of your questions somebody said you would look like the asian anton anton i don't know i don't know who that is um we don't respect the leaders who strive for power more than those who who don't right now i don't think imam malik's statement really fits here the abdulrahman

oh you're referring to uh you're referring to the abbasids yes when imam malik was asked about the abbasids that they is it good are they a good force are they a force for good he said um he just said no comment right so let's take a look at some questions that you guys may have then we'll take a look at the other topic

yeah that's history but you know history is amazing to learn those of you just tuning in people a bit spread the love man spread it man to know what kind of question that is did he change his ways afterwards well i mean it depends what that means he was very gracious and he he's i mean that's his statue that you ha that you saw i'll bring it back

up this was his statue it's still here in modern spain i mean it's it wasn't obviously made i don't think it's made around his time but it has been there for quite some while and that's to commemorate him because he really did he defined history he's one of those people

right do you know right no no no no interesting questions there so the the name muhammad somebody's asking a question do you know the name do you know the origins the origin of the name muhammad i mean i'm not sure what you mean by that do you mean was anybody ever named

muhammad before the prophet i've heard people say they weren't allahu alam i honestly don't know um i've read that people have said that the prophet his name prior to him people didn't used to have that name but if they did it doesn't make a difference you know just if somebody had the name muhammad before the prophet it there's nothing wrong it's a absolutely beautiful name so

it just means the one that's praised and so right shukran shukran somebody said look nice you know you have to you end up becoming uh people might confuse you for ya juju matt

okay so right let me just see what is going on i'll share the link a little later on i'm gonna i'll do the other topic on um on pork and then we'll move to we'll move to taking some more questions

ah let me just whilst i'm doing this share the food man right and let me just take a sip of water can i ask you a personal question no no you can't [Laughter] there you go simple as that right now

all right okay so let's begin with the next topic and we can move on and see if we can wrap things up but uh it's always good to it's always good to rest as well but i'll be hello this some time yet so

let me bring this up so what we're looking at here is okay here this is the verse uh there are a number of verses in the quran that speak about hindi this topic of pig so what i want us to do is take a look at this verse and then we'll go into some of the islamic discussion surrounding it and then the kind of teleological

analysis of why the kind of machacid and development of this ruling so let's begin with uh this verse that you can see here in suratul verse 145 this is actually an amazing verse by the way of the quran and i'll discuss it in more detail on another time occasion this verse as padilla ibn arabi says the great maliki legend is the basis of all dietary law because in this verse it states that there nothing is haram except this

so this is why according to the school of medina the maliki method that no animal is haram apart from pig so animals may be discouraged they may be fine they may be good they may be but no animal according to the mainstream school or main school view that no animal is haram beyond pig so just bar pig because this that's what this verse reads and the maliki school is unique in that position but we'll discuss that on another day how a single verse can lead to so much

difference of opinion right right so this is allah is telling the prophet that say to them i don't find at all i do not find anything from what has been revealed unto me haram for one

unless it is a dead animal so note here that the dead animal the animal may not be haram but it's because it was already dead the carcass that's haram all right so illa and yakuna metatan odamam which is blood that has been shed so there were certain pagan practices that they would drink the blood so that is uh what is haram note it's not speaking about blood that is still within animals but it's talking about the blood that is shed so they would kind of in a cup

get it and they would drink it as a pagan practice or the meat of pig of swine for innahu ritz that is an impurity now this you see or sacrificing to other than god now here once again this is a contingency ruling like the dead animal the animal itself may not be haram but because it's being offered as a pagan sacrifice therefore the contingency makes it hara okay

so and that's always amazing that note that whenever allah speaks about meat being haram mostly follows it by saying that look but if you know if somebody's starving or somebody's doing eat you know and allah didn't have to say that not each time but here it is just reminding that you know by the way we're not talking about the exceptions we're talking about the rule so pig this

as you can imagine has it's there's a lot of questioning about why the pig is haram in this verse let's what we're going to do is just take a brief look here then we're going to step back understand the islamic rulings around the pig and then we'll come back to some of the historicity note right that here the word rich is used so it is impure now what does that exactly mean because when allah says it is

impure the scholars have discussed what is the it going back to the pronoun that it is it going back to everything or is it just going back to the pig so many have said it's going back to the pig some have said it's going back to everything but even if it goes back to the pig the word rich is used i believe nine times in the quran most on most occasions it's a metaphorical reach like

that this kind of reads and anger from god descended upon them or that the the mushrikeen were rich or that this it was a metaphorical kind of impurity mostly when it's used but it can refer to something literal as well so in the quran the other verse speaking about alcohol and then saying gambling and also drawing lots that is rich the same word is followed okay so okay we've got that that's fine now i want us to pause that for a while whilst we take a look at um

[Music] some islamic rulings around pig then we're going to come back to this okay so we'll just wait for the slide to change now in islam once again now if this is new to some of you it is not a uh let me just forward that we'll come back to that this right if this is new to some of you then that's really just for a lack of your own understanding you have to remember that islam is incredibly diverse and sometimes you may come across opinions that you're not used to and that's fine

in fact that's an a step towards hopefully towards enlightenment and education to learning and getting more light in there right so within our tradition the pig we start off with is the pig impure okay and in fact before we even go to impure let's look at haram all scholars agree for generally speaking that the pig is haram right this is one of the most agreed upon rulings in islam

that everybody agrees that pig is haram and in fact it has become an identity marker for muslims there was a small difference on other there was a small difference on the non-meat aspect of pigs so for example what about the fat of pigs pig fat is that also haram most scholars would feel that yes everything you know eating the pig in any way is haram imam shokani disagrees

he he argues that allah whenever allah mentions he mentions the meat and doesn't mention and therefore that would suggest he uh he argues that it is only the meat that is haram oh he says that he he doesn't leave it quite clear that does he himself feel it's fine to eat the pig fat but he argues for its pum for its permissibility the second question but the majority of

the scholars clearly all say it's haram all aspects of pig fat pig meat whichever way you look at it the next question is is the pig impure is it impure now you'll be surprised to know that many ulama within islam do not consider the pig to be impure okay although many others have so yes people like the shafa in matthew the hanafi method humbly madam is divided they field especially the shaffer ease they feel the pig is najasol

it is impure to its core in its essence it is impure many hanafis agree with them some people say imam abu hanifa didn't but the hanafi mother generally agrees that the pig is impure to its core the maliki mother clearly from imam malik down disagrees with the maliki method said every living creature is always pure including the pig it is not impure it's just haram to eat and obviously when you eat it it's dead so but life the principle in the school of medina

according to imam malik is life necessitates purity so every living creature every living cell everything is that's alive is always pure so according to them if so let's say a pig was to drink out of a bowl now you have the famous hadith that if a dog drinks out of a bowl do you have to wash it so because according to the maliki method that that washing is just for hygiene purposes not because it's impure because life necessitates purity so the maliki method says no so the same thing with the pig

many ulamas some of the shafa yeah many of the shaffer yeah in fact many of them said it's the method many of the hanafi's as well and some humblys as well argued that if a pig drinks from a bowl you have to wash the bowl seven times or three times to make it pure the maliki method disagreed and said that no life is necessitates purity it may be a hygiene issue but it's not a filth or impurity issue so you can already see the difference of opinion from these great imams like imam malik coming all the way down

the next question is okay what about pig here and this is used in brushes and it's still used today so once again the olimar and the maliki method says pig here is pure it's not it's not impure and you can use it there's nothing wrong with using pig here that's what imam could to be writing is tafsir and that's generally the maliki view in addition to that they also there's a tradition that people bring that ibn

abbas i think they they bring ibn abbas tradition i believe and some other self would have sandals or shoes that contain pig here so they use this as evidence as well this is also the view that ibn tamiya went to in saying pig is fine because it doesn't really the life you know because they say no blood is in here so therefore it's kind of pure and i feel some hanafi's kind of did also go that way but the majority of the hanafiya majority of the shafi'ir majority of the hamburlees all say pig here is impure and you can't use it or

have it whereas the maliki school clearly says pig here is fine it's pure you can have brushes brushes made out of it or whatever you want the next ruling is leather the hide the skin of pig now here once again people disagree because there is a hadith of the prophet that kulu is

hide the leather that you of any animal it says kulu every animal if you clean it it is pure so based on this people like shabi from the seller from tabarin abu yusuf from the hanafiya imam malik his student ibn another great maliki and also the zahiria those who are kind like imam dawud and other people all said pig leather is halal and it's fine because they said that once it's cleaned and whatever tanning process you have to clean it

they said that's fine once it's clean it is and that's what the hadith states so they say that's fine other people like most of the chef most of the hanafiya even many of the malikis and many of the humbles apart from so i didn't mention imam malik in one area i mentioned you have ibrahim you have s says this is the view of the madhhab that's what he says so the maliki's may have a disagreement but this is a well-known position within the maliki method as well that and in fact often

led by them that that leather all leather even if it's pig leather is always pure so you can see straight away that there's quite a hmm you see now this may come as cognitive dissonance to many people because they will think oh i thought pig is like absolutely disgusting and uh you know it's like so impure right that you can't even say its name so when we were kids we wouldn't say the word pig we thought that that was sinful to say

pig oh this is what people had told us they said you're not allowed to say pig you have to say p-i-g so i don't know how many people can relate to that so but yet it's nothing like that because hindi is in the word hindi there's nothing wrong with the word conceived it's in the quran the meat of swine of pig and pig itself according to many ulum of islam including imam malik is pure itself as in it's not impure like if it touched you you don't need to wash i mean if you want to wash that's fine but

it's not impure it's not nudges okay it's saliva is not nudges its hair is not nudges and you can use it for brushes its leather is fine you can use pig leather and this is all within the mainstream sunni islam okay so you can already see these views are quite bewildering and some people even argued about pig fat being not haram but that wasn't them that was an extreme that's imam shaw kanye arguing for that but you can see there's quite a bit of wow okay i didn't expect this kind of color

and you know color dynamics on diversity about pig right now okay so we put that aside now we want to take a look at right yes somebody said it was a curse word yeah absolutely i mean i we weren't when we were kids we were told not to say and if you say you know it makes your tongue impure

and i remember being in a proper dilemma at school because i had to read this story and it said pig and i remember thinking and they were saying oh you're not allowed to say the word i was thinking what do i do you got like this little seven-year-old trying to figure what do i do malfunction right so now i want to take a look at why is the pig considered rich and impure and the only animal that is singled out in the quran as haram to the extent that the school

of madina imam malik school said no other animal in islam is haram to eat they may be discouraged but no animal is haram apart from pig the question is why pig because does god detest the pig and hate the pig clearly not that is not the case god does not hate the pig the pig is a creature like any other creature of god it's not something allah hates the pig allah has never said he hates the pig so this is a misconception that we have okay right now

i'll just bring this back up i'll show you now this is the answer that we have been given and i want to take a look at this then i'm going to pause it the this is by maimonides in his guide for the perplex that the pig's habits and its food are very dirty and loathsome so when people say why is pig such a detested creature in islam the understanding that we get from the jewish tradition is that well it's you know it's dirty and it's loathsome

now this is important pause this for a moment we have to remember that islam in many ways is a continuation of the mosaic tradition islam carries on the abrahamic faiths so you have judaism you have christianity yeah which is really just part of judaism and in many ways islam is a continuation of that of judaism as well because it's in many ways it's not jewish but it's it's an extension and a continuation of the mosaic

kind of tradition obviously with its own laws though so it will inherit this culture there is no doubt that the swine prohibition is inherited from the jewish law it's there in the book of leviticus it's there in the book of deuteronomy okay that it is mentioned that you shall not eat from the swine because right although it has uh cleft hooves it doesn't chew the curd it doesn't ruminate so the animals that kind of ruminate their food so they kind

of digest it like cows do so they have different compartments within their stomach they have like four stomachs or whatever number of stomachs and they have to chew and then they regurgitate and they chew it again and they keep doing that all day and that's expressed in the bible as to chew the curd so for an animal to be pure for the israelites it had to have cleft hooves and it had to chew the curd so the bible mentions about swine that it is forbidden for you because although it has cleft hooves it has cloven hooves

but it doesn't chew the curd now the bible doesn't mention about it being filthy or it doesn't go into much explanation on why apart from this so okay we know that it was definitely prohibited for the jews and we as muslims have inherited this from the jewish tradition so it's one way of understanding you see we'll never have absolute knowledge i want to put this first of all make this statement that look why is it haram the way it is we can just have our assessment

this is an assessment that i'm presenting to you um you know if it appeals to you that's fine if it doesn't that's fine okay so what i showed you here when we look at the jewish tradition because if we want insight for this it's best to go to their tradition why is it so hated in the jewish tradition because it is because so we find them saying it's about its food and its condition it's a very dirty creature which it is unquestionably okay so let's just pause that and we have to

go through a bit of history about the pig so the pig if you go back i don't know about 6 000 years ago was an incredibly popular animal okay in in that kind of the near east why because it was easy to breed and it it's kind of it grew very quickly rapidly so within a year you've got a full fledged pig that you can eat a lot of protein and also they were relatively easy to keep they didn't take up much space and they ate your

garbage so if you chucked out garbage and garbage and trash they would eat that for you so if you go back about 6 000 years ago they were incredibly popular and all these you know if all these not only people all these kind of royalties have them because they use them then religious practices start because they eat the garbage they started to be seen as scapegoats that you can kind of put your sacrifice them and get rid of the spiritual filth

okay so you so you find certain there's certain sumerian uh tablets that are found that speak of offerings of pigs of many pigs and these were a scapegoat they kind of took on the sins of the people around them so you had this culture they're incredibly popular and they're great they eat people's trash and people you know don't have to worry about anything so this is going on then you go into the early bronze age as time moves forward the popularity of the pig decreases massively okay so from about 4 000

bc onwards to about let's say 3006 and for about 4 500 years you start to see a rapid you start to see a gradual first decline in pigs from about the years 3600 bc to about 15 um 1500 bc something like that the the kind of late bronze age there is a drastic decline in pig popularity swine popularity so how do we know this one obviously from the kind of archaeological findings where we have

cuneiform tablets and things but better than that from the bones so archaeological digs have shown how much percent of bones cattle bones were pig bones so you start to see them drop with the era so when you're going to words just before moses's time just before so from the time of um 3600 up until 1500 bc whatever which is around the time of musa alaihissalam but before that all that time they rapidly decline in appreciation

people see all of a sudden they're seen as very filthy they were already seen as filthy but this garbage eating uh feature of these it loses flavor so people now see them as filthy the other thing is they don't bear any secondary um utility so whereas cows give milk sheep give wool pigs don't give anything they give meat that's great and they eat rubbish but they don't give any utility so the new kingdoms like the mesopotamian

kingdoms and these the babylonians these people start to see less utility in them so they start to advocate for cattle for other cattle that are actually more beneficial for the for the empire for the kingdoms in fact i believe about 2000 bc they are banished pigs are banished from mesopotamian temples and also certain other uh the babylonian certain temples around the near east they start to become

banished and banned from those because they're too filthy and now they just left to an underclass so who takes care of them the underclass of society so they become associated with the low class around this time they also fall out of flavor in egypt so the egyptian culture starts to show that the the develops a dislike towards the pig some people say this may have been um [Music] bolstered by the epic or the myth of uh seth

see according to the egyptian stories so in the book of the dead you have the story that seth takes on the form of a pig and attacks uh to kill horus horus being the loved deity so some anthropologists have argued that this gave rise to the this became the beginning point for pig animosity or pig kind of hatred amongst the egyptian culture the same thing as you can see like the serpent and the abrahamic cultures there's a

disliking to the serpent and the story of the satan became a serpent and tricked adam so people see the snake as this cunning and because the egyptians had a similar story of seth kind of taking the guise of a pig so the pig becomes this detested creature within egyptian uh or at least a disliked culture and some people say that's for his attack on horus nevertheless around this time this depreciation you have to also keep in mind that pigs are they don't have sweat glands and especially in that part of the world

with incredible heat they do require a lot of water so you have to take all of these things into consideration because as a farmer you have to choose what what are you going to do pigs are terrible for pastoralists but they are good in just small confined enclosures but not for pastoralists and then they consume a lot of water they are very uh filthy to look at when they are just wallowing in their kind of dirt and and it is true that where they do also

um consume their feces but that said usually if you know under drought conditions and things like that they do consume their own feces now this you may say other animals may do that as well at times but you see you have to put this all together to paint paint a social picture okay just to first of all get that sociological picture that as the mosaic as musa alaysalam's time is coming islam isn't even there yet as he's coming this is the landscape people already don't like this creature the pig and it's already a burden and it's seen

with the underclass then something that i haven't mentioned i did um right the pig also is known as one of the few creatures one of the few animals that does carry certain parasites that can infect you either fatally or considerably so it does have certain tapeworms but also the specifically it's i did write it down trichinella's boralus which leads to trichinosis now trichinosis although it was discovered only a few centuries ago a couple of centuries ago that it's what if it's

a consequence of undercooked pork and it can lead to things like extreme vomiting diarrhea and sometimes very severe infections as well so other creatures can have it but really it's namely with the pig so you do have this trigonosis so you do have health hazards as well so you can imagine back then people getting sick eating the pig and the pig is this filthy creature wallowing in this dirt and then it's it's consuming at times its feces and doesn't offer any secondary value and it's also with the underclass of society

and all of this is contributing to a a picture baggage of this creature now in the time now the mosaic law comes pigs have been made haram in the jewish bible when the pig is made haram not much detail is given except that it just doesn't chew the curd so it doesn't digest its food like the way the cow does that's all it doesn't say actually they were filthy or they were this or they were that but it is haram for them so okay this is definitely the basis i then also

another view as well as many anthropologists and i also feel that this does carry some currency uh that many anthropologists and historians have looked at is the filth um backdrop consolidates further down the line so although the haram the tahrir is the from the beginnings that this is haram for them now as time moves on the story adds more kind of texture to it so what do i mean by that so first of all when the israelites move to the middle east

so after moses they go and conquer and the kingdom and set up the kingdom of israel when they set up the kingdom of israel there was the first point was they were the local people that were residing there you had uh the who were like who were known as the sea people from the aegean islands and referred to as the philistines okay that's not philistine of today although the name goes back to that but they so these were not arabs or semites these were people from around where greece is modern-day greece and that but they had kind of migrated and they were living there before

and they are the people that initially fight uh dawud alaihi salam and all these people to fight david took goliath and that's who they were these aegean people one the one suggestion has been that when the israelites arrive there and they set up settlements and this kind of this kind of battles they go on for a while a considerable while before the israelites take over and establish the kingdom one argument is that the the residents of that region would eat pork so this further he added one more layer of us versus them

okay it's not huge but it's a little fine now the kingdom of israel is set up great another thing is with the kingdom of israel once again now that it's a mighty kingdom uh it's set up there is the other so with the other you reinforce your own identity fine that's moving forward like let's say what's left of uh you know the babylonians and things like this after the great monarchy the united monarchy is divided israel has two kingdoms so you have northern israel which the northern kingdom which is called israel

and you have the southern kingdom which is the kingdom of judah where jerusalem which was the main part and all the jewish major scribes were from judah they were from the south i should have let me check uh i'll see if i have a picture here right okay so let me show you so you can see there there is uh just an example of a map divided the kingdom of judah and the kingdom of israel now what's interesting here check this this is also the era that the bible is rewritten

so the jewish bible when the the um the israelites are released from the babylonian captivity they come back and in the time that follows they rewrite the bible ezra and all the other rabbis as well now the most of them reside in the southern kingdom what's interesting is archaeological studies have shown that from that era right the kingdom of israel the northern kingdom had up to from the bones that were found from that era

of cattle they found up to eight percent of them to be pig bones so it appears that the northern kingdom actually the jewish people in the northern kingdom did have and must have been eating pig whereas the southern kingdom excavations and archaeological findings don't show hardly any pig bones at all from that era so that's interesting so one um one possibility here is the southern way kingdom of judah the judah heights where

all these scribes and ezra and all these people are where jerusalem is they and there's rivalry by the way between the northern kingdom and the southern they see the northerners as less jewish that you're not and one of the demarcating factors is look at them they eat pig you know like so it reinforces the identity and remember this is the time they're writing a lot of the early jewish scripture so that identity thing is getting consolidated even further

but it doesn't stop the this is just the kind of beginning what happens is as this as time progresses the whole jewish kingdom the whole jewish kingdom collapses to who alexander the great he captures it and the animosity that there is what what is one of the clear things that the greeks do they eat pig it's an identity thing once again you've got a bit of that us versus them it's just adding a little notch after alexander

the kingdom the seleucid kingdom that follows you know with his children and after his children the seleucid kingdom you have a ruler by the name of you've got here uh antiochus now he him uh i'll just try and bring up oh you can see the picture there right there it is right so antiochus iv one of the things he does is he incredibly persecutes ruthlessly persecutes the jewish people he um he kind of uh

he absolutely apart from uh apart from torturing and murdering and all the kind of atrocities that you can imagine but he also attacks the temple the great jewish the great temple of jerusalem he attacks that and he it what he does is as a sacrilege he he slaughters pigs at the altar in the holy of the holies so he goes to the holy of the holies which normal people can't even go into right and antiochus what he does is he has

pigs slaughtered because he knows they don't need pig at that altar within the holy of the holies where normal jewish people aren't even allowed to go because they're not pure enough here he smothers that with pink blood this sacrilege hits so deep in the jewish psyche that it leaves a scar that would follow for centuries he doesn't stop here by the way antiochus what he does is he bans jewish practices he

bans circumcision and one of the interesting things he does is he would force he would force people he would force several jewish people to eat pig and if they didn't he would just torture them i mean he would basically be toying with them so it'd get people who'd torture them uh and one of the tests like with the inquisition you saw with muslim spain he would torture people and make them eat swine and there's certain uh these references to this uh within jewish literature and then he would kill them if they you know if they didn't many people would resist it this became that

iman thing for them that will you eat the pig eat it and i'll let you live and i won't eat it i'll die of death and and this is it people stood their ground and they were massacred and murdered but the litmus test not the litmus test but this kind of the final ultimatum that would often be given to them would be to eat swine now this is further burying into the jewish psyche this repulsive hatred towards swine flesh pig meat

this eventually leads to the maccabean who actually take over from the seleucids and actually have a kingdom the husband and they have uh their kingdom for about 120 years or something something like that so you can see how deep this is into the the jewish psyche and then to add to it when the with the following uh jesus alaih-salam the new converts to what what was still

judaism but the new judaism which is christianity they said that we will still eat like those laws don't apply to us so they still ate pork so you can see the kind of shock fact and the repulsive um kind of um tremors that it sent to the jewish community that wow like these people they you know they claim to want to take from our tradition and yet they eat this look they eat pig this is to the early christian community and check this to the extent that jews

aren't even allowed to have blood in their meat they have to drain blood out of their meat and the christians claim to drink the blood of christ and eat his flesh as part of the eucharist so you can see these traditions led to a very deep-seated repulsive animosity towards pig meat this lay in the jewish psyche for centuries and centuries later is the advent of islam and

in that time islam also in many ways is continuing from the mosaic tradition is following the abrahamic laws and you have to remember that a lot of the quran is saying of the book and much of the quran is addressing the israelites and it's continuing their tradition so this thing of the of swine being so deep in the psyche and keeping in mind that the pig was

already an animal that had it did have health concerns trigonosis it did also have uh filth kind of aspects to it it it was also out of currency and out of flavor in the middle east people weren't uh really they weren't interested it was already associated with the underclass and then islam arrives and it is a continuation of this abrahamic tradition so it consolidates that law saying pig is haram okay so it is haram to eat and it is the only animal that has been declared haram

in the quran per se in and of itself so as a continuation of the mosaic law but the filth aspect is really what lay deep down in the in the psyche of the israelites and islam kind of honored their tradition if you like although it didn't really say it in that way as you already heard that many ulama felt that the pig was absolutely pure imam malik the school of medina they felt there's nothing you know it's not an impure creature it's saliva is not impure it's

leather is not impure it's here is not impure but it honored that tradition of uh that was coming from the mosaic law and the israeli so that's what i feel why we have this so there is a health concern that is true uh trichognosis but in addition to that you have this socio psychosocial backdrop and landscape in addition to cultural developments that took place over the centuries i hope that sheds some light right let's move on people

what i'm going to do is i'll share the link right let me just put this on all right and i'm going to share the link and oh no that's not the link [Laughter] what am i doing what am i doing here people what am i doing

um there you go i'm sharing the link this will give you an opportunity meanwhile if you want to uh i'll look out for some of your questions that are here i find it interesting how apocryphal gospels are similar to stories in the quran like the belief that god swapped jesus with someone else um it's not in the quran that's not in the quran that's

in apocryphal muslim literature it's not in the quran so you're just referring apocrypha to apocrypha right so let me take a look at all right

all right marion masala you have to win it you're doing it all right musty you looking younger you know actually i was thinking about something i'll share some thoughts and then yeah then i'll go to uh taking on some guests you know i was uh i think this was interesting it was on my mind i was speaking about it as well i was watching gary vee and he said something incredibly fascinating i thought and i do

advise people to really i mean whether they i mean maybe they he's not their cup of tea but to follow you know people of entrepreneurial thought right so he was saying he was giving some interview garyvee and he was saying look he ends up speaking about age and i think he's in his mid or mid to late 40s so he says look um he says look look at me himself he says i think at the time he's 45 or 46 or

something he says look i'm in my mid 40s he says but look how undressed he's dressed with this t-shirt a cap and you know he's kind of his kind of jeans the and he says look you have to understand something people are living a lot longer so people are living up until their mid to late 80s the average person let's say the the life expectancy has gone up he said we have access to incredible

health care we have access to vitamins minerals taking care of our health and then he gives the example of himself he says look at me look at the way i'm dressed he says he says he says when i was young he says we'll never see a 40 year old like this and and he says in fact 40 year olds he when he was young or when we were young he says would have been finished like you look at them and they just finished and and he says today you look at them and he says well he says this is what they dress like they dress kind of like

almost like somebody in their 20s and he says because that's he says the 40s are the new 20s now it's really interesting you see what he's saying at a deeper level not at a superficial level because if you analyze the mindset that when we were young a person in their 30s had this incredibly incredibly mature very oh man energy to them a person in his 40s would have had a

very serious elderly energy to him that's not the case today you see because of what technology and what the modern day and age has provided us the mindset has also changed now you look at a person in his twenties they're like it's like a you know they're like children i'm serious like the mindset the maturity of a person in his twenties is just like an early teenage kid

people don't develop that kind of mature adulthood energy until much later now and i want you to think about that in fact i was i can't remember what this conversation came up i was sitting somewhere and there was uh there was a there was a bollywood something was on some kind of movie or something and it was from the 90s and i mean i wasn't watching it or anything but i just saw it on and we were having this

conversation and akshay kumar was in it and this is from the 90s and and it just proved the point i said like take actually take a look at this character that he's playing he in the movie he's somebody in his probably early twenties and he probably is around that kind of age or maybe mid-twenties himself at that point this is going from the movie must be old it must be early nineties but there's this very incredible there's this very mind man energy that the person has that you don't see in

20 year olds 25 you don't even see it in 30 year olds a person maybe towards their late 30s start to develop a bit of it by the time they're 40 they they then start to have that kind of adulthood energy to them now why is this interesting relationships and everything but especially like just think of one aspect relationships you see especially men [Music] even though they've entered biological adulthood they still

are just kids and they don't reach that manhood manhood now there's a delayed onset they don't reach it till they're probably like in the late 30s and by that time if they got married young then they've got kids there already so just think about that that's like when you think of the complexity that whoa

because really the amount of times that i'll hear about and i'm sure many of you will hear relationship issues lack of maturity lack of understanding lack of this lack of that and it's true but it's almost like a conundrum conundrum that what is the answer because really these be especially with the men they don't won't really enter any kind of real man energy that kind of matured energy until

let's say a man is 22 years old you got to give him another 15 to 18 years before he's going to really reach any any kind of real it doesn't matter if he thinks you see a 25 year old might say no no i i'm quite mature but the reality is most of them ain't they're just like kids i mean they they're not i don't mean by them being kids that they're stupid they're not stupid kids ain't stupid it's just that they just haven't reached that kind of energy yet so yeah and i think it hits the muslim

community especially hard when it comes to relationships because the muslim community is in a a bit of a it's between a rock and a hard place it doesn't know how to navigate through modern relationships because we live in this part of the world where here there is a system that i mean whether we like it approve of it or disapprove of it but there's a system that teenagers will have relationships and they don't marry but they just have relationships and then they'll have their first heartbreak and then they'll have another

relationship and that will last a couple of years and then they'll have that heartbreak and then they'll have another one and and you see by this time once they've gone through a bunch of heartbreaks and handling relationships they they kind of mature the other thing that they do have in this community i mean in this part of the world which the muslim community doesn't really have is they encourage personal space so when a child is now as soon as the child hits 18 they'll be like right all right dave

about time you get your own place so and there is a an immense growing up in that process because it's not just you see this the there's the financial side of it which is burdensome with the responsibility but it's not just that seclusion having access to your space and being on your own in solitude is incredibly important in developing that adulthood energy that having that mature mindset

i feel it's very difficult to because you know when you're on your own there's nobody it's just you you're left to your thoughts and this is another problem that today because this generation is so hooked on everything phone phone phone phone phone me social media social media social media they're not left to their thoughts because sometimes when you face your thoughts you have to allow your thoughts to take you on your own and then at times they take you through dark encounters and metaphorically you have

to face your demons but you need your space to do that and you then go through it it doesn't happen quick but you go through it and on the other side you emerge as a man and that is very difficult in muslim communities because they all everybody just lives in one house everybody's just living there so you don't have that so the only space they have is while sitting in a car and okay but it's not really the same and then they haven't had

as many open relations they haven't had the same relationship experience as the non-muslim counterparts because even if they have let's say they've had some religion but because it's all hush-hush it's only you know it's not the same because the non-muslims have had public relationships you know they've had girlfriend boyfriends before since school growing up so they've had like three four heartbreaks already and they've learned how to cope with it and they've learned to accept rejection so many muslims the first proper full-on relationship they're having is is really and i'm just giving an observation i'm

not saying everybody should go out they do this but i'm just showing the problem that you see muslims have it like within with a marriage now they get married so this is their first trial this is going to be the one that's going to go horribly wrong because they don't know how to handle a relationship don't know how to handle another person they don't even have space still living with everyone and the girls living there as well and and then and maybe some children come along the way and they have an even mature and then maybe there's this turbulence and god forbid the relationship breaks

people don't know how to handle rejection they don't know how to handle heartbreak it's important you know you have to the heart has to go through some fractures in life to kind of come back stronger but if you haven't then then this is why many muslim cases they are never you know there's toxic relationships and you speak to people sometimes they say i'll never let this i'd never give her a divorce i will beat the hell out i will kill her but i won't let her go with another man you see that that's that teenage energy

see that's where this society got that all out of this system when they were like just teenagers but because we're trapped between worlds you see it's different people say yes but in our community we don't have this dating thing we don't have this and i i know we don't but we're not living you see one of the the challenges this is why i'm saying these aren't pointing out the challenge i'm not saying okay that is the solution but what i'm saying because that has its own problems that you see we have a model that may work i don't know how successfully but it may work in pakistan

or in india or in afghanistan now or iran or saudi arabia but it definitely isn't here but we are living that model here in the west where they have an entirely different different model and so yeah i just found it very fascinating thinking about all of these and just thinking that wow when i heard gary vee saying that it just kind of made so much sense about the onset the delayed onset of that kind of maturity but

and also of just age like how when he said 40s are the new 20s and he wasn't just speaking about trying to be young he was trying to speak about how the the landscape has changed but yeah i thought i'd share that with you guys right um let me oh there's a

right there's the link let me arrive people who have we got here uh wait a minute i've recognized that name muhammad wilkinson oh i look very tired oh my god

how are you man i'm doing great man i'm doing great yeah as you can see background hasn't changed but but my location has changed yeah has it but i remember speaking to you last and yes you were going through um yeah some stuff and uh i'm through that now and i'm here in morocco it's cool marrakech yeah yeah yeah yeah all right so what i'll arrive wilkins so what is going on talk to us talk to us i mean i mean um well i'm in morocco and it's um it's it's so

interesting because like you said like like it was it was fascinating what you were saying earlier about you know being with yourself being with your thoughts uh you do sometimes sometimes you don't know what you want until you kind of reach that sort of destination so for example obviously i knew i didn't want to be in the uk for example right and i knew i wanted to leave but i didn't know exactly where but i had morocco as a in mind so i come to morocco i've been here for a week now and and i enjoy it i enjoy it way more than the uk but you know i i've um i like going this to

you know have you ever been to marrakesh just curious yes yes of course yeah so yeah i i i've traveled throughout morocco quite a bit i know morocco pretty well yeah so you know fez you've got especially fairs especially the business sector that i've uh you know we've had a few dealings there in the past as well so it's i know um yeah some regions pretty well yeah

yeah i'm not sure if i'm gonna like do the little tour around but either way um you know i have this little haunt in the german and i swear and you know you know how they have these sort of is that what you're yeah yeah so like it's just a couple like five minutes walk away from here and you know i when i when i have after i finish my teaching i go off and i eat my dinner and and i just sit there and they give me free refills of green tea which is great and i just sit there just people see the student life

the students at that time yeah yeah yeah yeah no no no are you not studying there as a student you're not studying no i'm i'm i mean no no no you're working yeah i'm self-employed man and uh yeah you know and uh yeah and i've just you know i had enough money and i just had the opportunity to come and fully vaccinated all that stuff and so i came yeah you know why not why not you know it's something which i think to myself that

if i suppose now it's a different stage of life i mean yeah yeah otherwise i feel that i um you know i wouldn't mind i i mean i i suppose i could still do certain variations of it but not in that sense but let's say i i've i do still find an appeal to this thing of just traveling to different places and living there for like let's say six months um just gaining life experience right exactly i think it's like what you're doing now yeah you will obviously you're working there but you're

gaining life a real life experience i mean you're just very young still and you're obviously in a part of the world picking up culture you're going to have all kinds of experiences somebody might try and rip you off and as they are what happened we have to get wilkinson ripped off on a few more stations

oh my god but i am proud of some of the things you know this uh bracelet this like it's like um so you know um i you know one of the guys they took me into his jewelry shop and he kind of showed me this and i thought oh that looks cool like a viking bracelet and this is my first experience of haggling you know getting it down from what he wanted 750 dirhams he wanted which is something like what's that again um

yeah so 60 pounds right and uh and uh but i got them down to 300 men yeah 300 i had a 300 and then you know and he's probably thinking you know it's actually just worth eighty yeah but it's fun it was fun doing that because you know it's not it's new to me haggling and stuff like that because in britain and saudi arabia as well you just paid the price right um yeah yeah yeah no it's very cool uh the only thing i wanted to add to what you said about the pigs and stuff which is really

interesting uh i don't know if you've heard of the game minecraft but it's something i play a little bit uh or maybe i've heard of it i haven't played it but i've heard of it yeah so it's so it's like a farming simulator but in in minecraft there are pigs there are uh cows and there are sheep and there are horses and stuff and just like in real life uh you know the cows they give i thought you just i thought you just added that caveat to just tell us like there are cows pigs and just as there are in real life as well i thought that's very courteous of you

the cows they give milk and leather as well as the meat the sheep gave wool and the meat but the pigs a lot of learning here i just wanted to kind of [Music] the point here is even in this game the pigs don't give anything else other than meat and i when i played it i i made like a sheep farm i made a cow farm but i didn't make a pig farm

yeah and not like as even as a muslim i have no problem eating pork meat inside the game yeah because it's just a game right it's not i love you though it's just game since you're ruining i wonder how many muslims you know they play minecraft they're like is this haram is this halal and they go to the imam can i can i eat fork in my house that's the thing like you get people sometimes wonder that can i feed my pet haram so they say they say i can't feed that i can't feed my cat or my dog for example meat because that's haram meat and you think

of it dietary laws don't apply to the dog in the cat i don't know yeah it just gets it oil but like like i said like i naturally made the sheep farm and actually made a cow farm but i kind of ignored the pigs because like you said they don't have any secondary utility and what i'm trying to say there is that it it um corroborates what you were saying about the historical historical it's interesting that you say that because you see what what you were virtually doing although it was you know unbeknownst to

you but you were replicating or behaving mirroring what you know a particular civilization was doing at a certain late bronze age because they needed more economic development and they were thinking well you know apart from meat what do these pigs even offer so exactly let's invest we need wool for this empire you know we need this we need we need to barter we need kind of products we need here yeah no so that so i just wanted to add that and um yeah definitely and and just to add about the gemini finance stuff you know

like you know it's just sitting there thinking about lighting the people fast it really is a kind of meditation because i just sit there with my teeth and that is amazing because we have to i don't know i wonder actually because i wonder how equal this is i know it's equal as in men and women need it but i wonder if it's equally needed i don't just mean the the thing as a whole but in in equal measures or do men need this more but i find that i think especially i was going to say i felt that men need it more i feel this is my

i could obviously i've got a i've got to be gender fluid and experience it no no but it's not that this is just my experience i have been in relationships before and stuff i just find that i like to ponder about things i like to ponder about why is this pink you know uh whereas a woman she's more concerned about practical things and daily stuff and you know the future and no i didn't mean in a way to to just completely diss the entire uh no

they channel their energies in a different way i can say that i think that's i think that's a fair way of saying it yeah i feel as well that it's that we have our like everybody has a struggle and i feel that sometimes that we all need solitude but men have to you know when that kind of what pondering that goes off they have to face the problem yeah well he didn't no no no i wouldn't say demons in that sense with the sallallahu alaihi yeah yeah but people did go yes of course the prophet sallallahu

alaihi would go to her he would go yeah you know solitude mindfulness said that maryam said in the marian did have solitude you know and in her temple so there are women that do need the solitude right and they know of course i wasn't saying so just to be clear right yeah that people i was saying i wonder if they need it in equal in the same size or reason that everybody needs it but definitely definitely think that there is a major uh there's an um a handicapped situation that

that men are more immature uh in a court you know relatively to women that are definitely you know with an age thing i think especially men that are young men they're way more immature than the women than their female counterparts that's why they all like anime and women don't seem to be interested

see these are the real world issues right here but having your own space is so important to just even if it's to just lose yourself in it yeah yeah because i think that's such an important process isn't it this kind of coming of mental age you need to kind of like definitely it makes it like because like like i said like i i knew i wanted to leave the uk and then the next stop was morocco but then what then right and you know that isolation that not isolation but that sort of like meditation there you go that's a good

point made by uh scope their scorpio that men are more immature that's why women mean because all the men like you that they're just watching anime so it's like there's no wonder they need solitude they're like yeah i need to get out of this yeah but like but i i i figured out my next destination of the my next destination yeah i'm not going to stay in the morning right what's your next destination the philippines the philippines the fans okay yeah okay yeah is there a reason is there a trend we're supposed to be is there a pattern we're supposed to be

detecting what happens what happened you're talking about all the countries are cheap so far right so i just have to go to the cheapest [Laughter] i'm going to fall off my chair here

are you seeking are you seeking out a wife is that what's going on ones in minecraft actually you can't yeah but aren't you what use is it what use is a kingdom and an empire if without without a queen right either

so is this what the quest is is this what the real question i mean i mean i mean i mean that's what it seems to have turned out that like it's um yeah like yeah you know yeah yeah yeah in search of the one fortunately in this case the one is not god yeah

but you know no he's with me you need to find someone else so how long have you been in uh in the madrid now one week about one week yeah yeah one week and you're moving on well no not not not not no not because the philippines is closed right so i'll sit i'll just sit here divide my time until until it opens and you want you wait wait a minute you can't find

oh so many people have got questions right now you've got people going off into solitude with this answer no it's just like it's like it's like oh i'll i'll put it i'll put it this way i i have been married before to the filipino yeah that didn't work out yes yeah philippines okay so i see it it is my first video yeah so

you've got people picturing all sorts now this is uh quite rather rather inappropriate anyway like yeah yeah so okay so it's uh so i i i just realized that yeah like after that one didn't work out but either way i i and then i was thinking maybe am i attracted to others no not really so you know i've kind of decided to go back oh so you're not actually attract okay so that's interesting so you uh you thought let me check out other ethnicities and

and you went to and you didn't and you found yourself thinking yeah okay okay yeah you thought philippine is the one yeah yeah definitely yeah definitely yeah yeah well so whoa right so let me just get rid of that some bee came flying in right so okay yep okay

so so when you go to these places you teach the you get a job no no no no no no no i i there's a website called italki.com where you can you can tutor in different languages and uh right okay and so i i i was a teacher on italki since since i was in england and i'm still on it yeah and uh you know the great thing is you know it just you make the money in dollars and you transfer it to your paypal or payoneer and you transfer it to your bank account like that so it's just like it doesn't work of course and then of course to crypto

eventually when i have money right you know right yeah yeah definitely like because cryptos like you said is the it's the future for sure isn't it you know yeah it took a deep breath but it's it's back up yeah it's getting bad yeah no but i mean but i mean aside from the short-term ups and downs the society is moving towards that right the zeitgeist the mentality of the people how they think about money is changing isn't it right yeah yeah definitely you know it's yeah

wilkinson it is epic as always to to have your thoughts and more than anything your laughter oh yeah i think other other people think my lap is competing with yours so uh i i'm sorry i think it beats mine i think it feeds mine uh i'm sorry for taking us around there but uh you deserve that crown

that's all yours thank you thank you thank you okay yeah you can be my minister of laughter yeah somebody said yeah look it's a gift it is a gift it's a gift trust me yeah no no it is it's it's um it's so important to just laugh you know like yeah yeah to me you know like sometimes i'm not always full of laughter but usually i am like 99.9 percent of the time you know that's quite a bit of a that's quite a bit of uh

you know that's not how they do the statistics they don't say 99.9 percent you might as well just say 100 but no i have to make a loss [Laughter] oh wilkinson just froze look at that it must be the internet in morocco well it was a pleasure wilkinson right uh okay let's see who else have we got here is epic and that that laughter

that frequency that pitch that that that he reaches having this bee kind of floating around me trying to do to off right so alright from kazakhstan living in chicago moroccan internet yep that's it who do we have here let's bring on uh we've got who is uh i can't see one or two of the cameras actually you need to switch them on we've got obama already

yeah yeah loud and clear crystal clear all right well uh i just wanted first of all to thank you for everything you've done i've been following you since uh the beginning of this year and honestly yeah since the beginning of time i wish i was gonna say since the beginning tone it down a bit tonight that's too much lagging no no i wish since the beginning but yeah i mean it's it's really nice to hear your perspective um just to add on to the other conversation that you had before about solitude it kind of reminded me of uh rasul

when he went into solitude for many many uh for for many for extended periods of time in order to ponder so i think this is uh i think yeah i think this is something that's really important because it's even in our traditions the solid the reflection and the solitude yes yes but uh i had a particular question in mind i don't know if it's too long if it's appropriate but uh we'll give it a try i wanted to know uh your take on what exactly is a kafir like in the quranic term because i mean you hear a lot about uh

takfiri groups and you know people saying that christians are kaffir and jewish or coffee and some people say that shias are kafir some say the sunnis are kafir sufis or kaffir whatever and so and i feel that this is just out of proportion it's it's it's not what the what it seems what it seems from the quranic discourse you see because all of these people take the uh permutations of kufar from the quran and they'll base it on loosely you know they'll say this verse here is speaking

about this therefore the shia kafir this verse is speaking about this therefore this person is a character um yeah i would you see what it appears from the general if you trying to be as genuine with the discourse um it seems that the kafir of the quran is the person that out of stubbornness rejects god um it seems that the person is

he seems to know god and he is an arrogance to refuse to accept him um this is what it seems allahu allah but that's how i um that's where i find myself some people may say no it's just somebody who lacks information or just says no whether it's out of stubbornness or nothing that says no uh they are a catholic but to me that would be the true definition of a curse because it seems to me that um well at least from because i've read the quran a couple of

times and from what i understand it seems to be um those who actively fight against the prophet that they would take an active role against him rather than yes because i remember there's a particular verse where it says where there's the there's the kuffar and mushrikeen in the same verse as in talking about two different peoples okay yes okay i see what you mean so i feel like one is taking like the mushrikeen are just those who don't believe in god but since they're not actively fighting the prophet and his

message and the companions while they're they're not while those who actively fight you know because i mean but that's just but i don't know i don't know that's why uh that's why i'm asking no it makes sense um i guess everybody can have a take on what they the quran uses the term kafir i think for the most part it is not our job we are not tasked to be um kind of

administering 100 you know who is in that sense i don't mean you see there's different ways of looking at things so there is a structural perspective that you have muslims and you have non-muslims okay so from that sense it's very clear anybody who's a non-muslim could be called a cafe so this is fine from just as far as nomenclature and terminology is concerned then you're saying cafe in the sense how allah is saying kaffirs and all this you know that who allah deems as a true uh

cafe the cafe of the of the afterlife yeah that cafe is there's not a necessary crossover so a kafir who is just not a muslim therefore we're calling him a kafir is not necessarily the cafe of the afterlife it's not a necessary crossover because you don't know because there's there's different because people probably don't understand god they probably plus islam has been so um tainted due to propaganda due to um just the message being diluted uh due to distortion

so as imam razali said in his time that the byzant uh you know the byzantine uh the romans for them who were the romans still um eastern romans said he he said that they on those christians are not cafe in that sense they're cafe in this dunya but they're not cafe of the akira because islam has become too distorted for them so they wouldn't want to embrace it okay so in that sense islam today is way too distorted in the west it's way too distorted for most people um you know even if they

tolerate it or they accommodate for it is a better word but they're not interested in embracing it because it's not it's was watching i was yeah um it's not even it's not even that like there i mean there is that of course but i was watching this interview of um mike tyson and and he says in it i was really surprised actually because of it by his transparency and honesty and he says uh he says look i never really believed in

religion and he says i only used religion because it helped me i remember that and he says i never believed in it and until of late so now he does believe in in god and everything but he says before i never really believed and he says religion he says religion has too much conflict in it he says every religion has too much conflict in it for me and you see that is interesting because here is a person you're getting a perspective of how it seems to the outsider

religion just seems too full of conflict if you weren't a muslim today if you were born a non-muslim in in the western country and even if you grew up to to to kind of respect other faiths you're very respectful person you you can even appreciate that islam has many great values to it and let's say you even think that the prophet muhammad was a great human being now you probably still would be very reluctant to accept islam because islam would appear too full of conflict it would appear that why would i want to

be a part of that like you'd think like i can appreciate it from a distance i don't need to be a part of it because it's this is too much fighting too much hatred you know people once you get into it it's all sectarianism and it's all it's surprising you know i've read i've read a comment um a little while ago about me i think probably been a month or something okay so some people had they wrote some i don't know they had some clip about me i the clips were old but i don't know i think they this particular i don't think it was like a big channel or anything but somebody had just shared a clip uh and to be fair

they haven't for a reasonable while people haven't been doing that but this whatever i did and somebody sent it to me and because i couldn't see i clicked on it i don't really bother watching stuff like that but i went on the and i saw it i was like oh all right not interesting but i saw the comments and i thought oh okay let me see the comments because it came up on the desktop and it was just really fascinating that all these people on they were just making dua like literally they were saying i pray to allah that he just becomes an atheist and and i i found it really like i found it it was so disappointing

because i thought you are praying to allah that i deny allah in all his glory and i reject the prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi i mean you are actually praying for for me to do that and i i think wow like that that it kind of shocked me because i i thought you know this is just i just don't know you can't you know you can't make head or tails of it because you think that these are people praying because of the islam they are praying people leave islam

yeah exactly that's just a tiny example no 100 yeah i mean this is exactly why i wanted to ask the question it's because i see that occur a lot i mean i'm originally from from uh on up and obviously as you know in the news with isis and everything those techfiti groups popping up and then and just around me i see like a lot of hatred and people calling each other kuffar and this guy's a coffin and this guy's a deviant and this guy's like this well uh you're in the blood and you know whatever and i'm just thinking like what

what makes you classify these people as kafir who are you the classic so that's why i wanted to know exactly like what is behind that word that makes people so they don't give them the right to to cast others out as kuffar which is why i wanted to know exactly in the quran you see this really is something much simpler than that and that is that we as creatures we wish to exert dominance and control over our environments that

includes cyber environments that includes mental environments so they could be psychosocial landscapes they don't have to be physical landscapes we wish to exert control and what better control than giving than somebody so being deluded into thinking they are the voice of god or they speak on behalf of god that is so powerful and then to i chuck this i'm a you see i'm more virtuous than you i'm more righteous than you my beard is longer than yours my you know it's so crazy like it's i it surprises me sometimes the the

the super-sized eagles that are found within religion because islam religion came to extinguish this this ego and the super-sized eagles that we have in the name of islam and in the name of religion they're just astonishing and they're laughable like you it's so you know it makes you like you you think this is so amusing

yeah it came for ego death but i only grew people's egos yeah yeah it does it does i made a uh in my life's uh uh speaking i saw a uh oh i think i spoke about that before did i speak about about ego death no no not about the ego ego death obviously i i've spoken many times about that yeah i saw your your uh uh mine trap with mukta oh right i haven't finished it i haven't finished it but i have about an hour left i thought yeah it's very interesting to great person to talk to and humbly really good vibe you know when you get

speaking but yeah so abandon i think um as always thank you thank you very much you wanna have your thoughts take care of yourself i have i have uh other questions but for another time but okay thank you very much you're very welcome take care i'll see you around likewise so alright people that was obama all right so let me just see who else we've got here people i can't see some of the cameras so if you um

bring up the cameras and then i could bring you on right okay meanwhile we've got a question nora parish shakaran shakaram for the super chat much appreciated helping this former atheist and westerner find god because of your openness and respect thank you enough for your work i'm deeply honored uh and you know shukran for your comment for your super chat and more than anything for sharing that sentiment because it it it just it taps right into that

transparent discourse that is needed because i find it really um strange and i find it also i find myself also drawn to this whole thing of saying well we ultimately see whether you like it or not we are driven by a yearning for god and i think what the modern world does

and i'm not blaming i'm not saying this is a bad thing but what it does is it it really quite effective to some extent effectively um puts us on a distraction conveyor belt of tasks victories achievements and and we i and and just just experience so there's quite you know i gotta get this i gotta get into this career gotta get this job i need to work my way to management i need to get this startup i need to do this or i need to

be in a relationship or i need to be out of this relationship in a different one or i need to oh and you know children or whatever but these distractions the the modern world especially because of the opportunities and i think that's amazing that we have these opportunities i'm i love the fact that we have these opportunities and i partake in them but i feel that it does an effective job of momentarily numbing that yearning but but that

the power behind that yearning can't be numbed or silenced for too long it bubbles up and re-emerges and you find yourself at times in solitude or or just at stages in life just thinking about existence thinking about hmm you know what is it all about and i if the fact that i can exp that there is meaning

that there is intelligibility of being you see i don't mean by that that we are intelligent but that there is intelligibility of being that that being in and of itself it is in its essence intelligible in its essence you see so that means information precedes it because meaning for there to be meaning it precedes it so the the bit precedes the it in one way to put it the information proceeds matter

and so you think wow and the more we learn honestly i find it thrusts us back into that i think people are just scared of you see they're kind of scared of god because not of god per se but because of scared of religion with all its baggage because of medieval europe and the church and and you know there's just so much the scars run deep in the in the collective consciousness so people are scared and they feel i don't like the abuse that was carried out in the name of religion i don't like and i get that that makes sense but

but there is a yearning and it's quite irresistible and i think at a point a person they um it's a it's a beautiful discovery when when we do come face to face with it right who do we have here we have uh rami alright rami [Applause]

you are a man because if there was a bee in my house there's i wouldn't be on the camera i would have been flipping the computer you're just so calm just flying past you there you go i as a kid i had this weird thing that i would catch bees no i have a phobia so i don't have a phobia of bees i in fact i just caught that one and i think i just may have crushed it but so bees for some reason i didn't uh but i mean uh is there something i don't like you see surprisingly i've not been uh much of a

we've just not grown up with with many pets since that we've not really had that so i've not been around uh which i think is is a bit of a lacking i should have it'd be fun because now i was trying to get some pets for the little one and you think well bloody hell i've not been around i don't know how to handle how to react to uh yeah mice actually my side i can't stand the look of mice i don't like them i think they're cute okay yeah okay that's okay i begged my parents for a dog i beg them i remember printing out i thought you might say i paid my parents for some mice i'm not one of those uh weirdos right but no

i begged my parents for a dog when i was a kid and i remember i did this print out where i signed my name like i promise i'll walk it i'll promise i'll pick up its poo whatever and yeah it just never worked out but i know there's a lot of people waiting so i do want to ask a question uh to you go for it man i like the i like the the headgear style thing you've got going there man yeah it's funny because i actually have a podcast i have to do tomorrow like uh for my job actually so i had to buy this thing so it's actually testing with you you want to skip let's give a shout out to your podcast no no it's not my podcast it's not my part oh it's not yours all right okay so all right so my question is regarding

revelation or wahi right in so far as the quran and i want to preface this question by saying i'm not trying to squeeze some bukhari or anything to do with you know hadith criticism so my question has nothing to do with that um so in in the authentic you know hadith literature there are clearly narrations that we could only label as revelation or whether it's simple stuff like you know how many rakats you have to do during the nightly prayer or eschatological events such as you know what are the signs of the david are we talking about the quran we're talking about right now i'm talking about the hadith i'm saying in the hadith okay clearly narrations that you could only

turn you know right of course yeah and so if that is true then it's obviously safe to say that you know the quran is not a complete recording of all of the wahi that the prophet peace be upon him received so my question is what do we know i don't i mean if we know anything about how the prophet peace be upon him and the companions decided what were he to include or not include in the quran okay that's i mean it's a very interesting question it's got a lot of kind of layers to it but taking some you know taking a shot at some of it

that first of all you see how i explain revelation i i explain revelation as um so hadith and that is not revelation um [Music] it would really just be sacred scripture the the scholars of theo of kalam the akita scholars theologians have disagreed amongst themselves how revelation works obviously who how could anybody truly have an understanding we just go by certain definitions that are given

so they say that wahi in its pure sense what i like to refer to it as borrowing the term from uh from physics and astrophysics that the singularity okay so purewahi like within the black holes how you have the singularity it is just the singularity that is real that is wahi at its core it is just now the so what many ulama like of kalam of akida like uh the great maliki who's who's the student of abu haslam

they state that revelation then manifests in this world where it so when it manifested with moses it was in that language with jesus in the gospels with the prophet sallallahu manifest in arabic as an arabic quran correct so now this appears to the prophet they just they disagree how does it appear some say it you know it appears out there some people say it appears within his heart to him he kind of sees it what if however the people whatever people choose

the point is that this is why and there is a there is a qualitative feel to the the language of the quran when you juxtapose it with hadith and nothing the same um hadith just seemed to be like reports like somebody saying oh i saw and the language in it is is categorically distinct it's nothing it does not resemble for the most part maybe there's some one-off kind of hadith i get it yeah they don't resemble the quran from a mile in any of its style

so yeah so i wouldn't categorize that as wahi in any way if what you mean is well they are giving a glimpses of the unknown like let's say this certain hadith talking about things which are revelatory matters that's exactly what i'm talking about yeah so in that sense um obviously that that's the prophet teaching now how so if he's teaching something about the afterlife let's say this is his teaching like the hadith that the prophet said that the prophet said there was a bee there was just i got away

so the the prophet said that uh the afterlife is no i has ever seen it no you know ear has ever heard it and it has not been conceptualized in any mind now this is the prophet teaching you from his understanding about the theme about these aspects so that's totally that totally makes sense but what about narrations where it's talking about what could only be revelation like you know before the day of judgment that barefooted bedouin will you know compete to build tall towers i'm just giving you guys i'm not even saying whether it's authentic not authentic that's not even the point of

this question the point is wouldn't that be could only be ilmur being given as like actual yes yes so the prophet would have you see now let's say first of all a lot of these things can also be inauthentic because there's there is a lot of that as well that usually eschatological issues to do with the end of times kind of literature that apocalyptic uh literature usually is not very established it's it's more kind of generated uh through hearsay and then people oh i totally agree with you i'm more interested in like what did the

classical scholar how would they have interpreted quran they would just say that they would just say let's say if we were to say this is authentic all of it sure yeah they would just say that look this is what the prophet has in his knowledge the knowledge is given to him so he's telling you how did he acquire that knowledge they would just say well god gave it to him yeah and then they decided what would go in quran and what wouldn't so there was a decision no so the quran is the quran it's not hadith the quran is obviously transmitted differently its language is different it's it's just the quran hadith is hadith we're talking about the content not the actual hadith so let's

say there is let's just say for example there is a hadith speaking about the afterlife somebody could say well this is not in the quran so how does the prophet know this uh well they would just say that the prophet was he this was kind of revealed to him but not as revelation in that sense but like as in the knowledge was given to him of it that's what they would mean okay fair enough yeah so it's kind of like he he came to know it how like i guess that distinction between like coming to know something that ends up being in the

quran and coming to know something that is hadith i've always been interested in how those decisions were made like how do the companions know like hey this this revelation he's having like is this quran or is this just like uh but they never you see they were very clear what the quran was because it was a very you see the quran the word quran is a recited scripture it's a recital of something that they will it's something to be read in a certain rhythmic and they could tell that this is this is and the prophet would teach it to them as this is what the quran was

well look that's it i mean yeah that's a great answer and and uh one other question have nothing to do with any of that uh if you have time go for it okay so look you i'm a student of science here a student of science specifically neuroscience and we both know the pitfalls of memory right so so let's ignore even the claims of islamic history on memory but if you just look at the history of oral you know communities where they had oral tradition oral communities that were not you know really using writing as much in if you look at any of their histories their ability to recall information is clearly outstanding like it's

empirically just on another level and and and because of that they treat oral you know oral narration as the you know the same weight of authenticity as anything else so do you believe you know again as a student of science i don't know what that sound is oh there's a plane well that's no sorry that's just my private jet yeah so do you believe that our ancestors right of antiquity the ones that come from oral traditions do you think that they had exponentially better memories than what we can observe today or is there any research to support that right it depends it

depends so that yes there's truth to this but it's not i don't believe it's general it's specific so yes in cultures it even works now look um let's take right now the current age because of the ubiquitous and easy access to sat navs more and more people are not so familiar with directions anymore because they so for example they don't worry about having to remember the route because

they just put it in the sat nav and just go there so i could for example i could go some use a route repeatedly and still not 100 know it maybe i know it about 80 now 90 now but i'm on autopilot just driving listening to whatever and maybe there's one two roads in between i'm not sure wait a minute when i get to that point which is it that i usually take is it that turn or that turn i don't really pay attention i just followed the sat nav no that's me whereas let's say you go back 15 years people were

more attentive to the roots like i remember when i began driving which was probably going back about probably about 15 years now i remember at that time i used to work as a teacher so we had to go out of town uh out of city to go to different schools and stuff and i remember i would at that time the satnav thing was new and it was this huge box right so and the tom tom and i didn't actually have it and i remember after a while getting hold of one but before i got it i had to figure out the route and i had to kind of like and i had to be so attentive and and this is

how i had to i used to memorize roots i used to go and i used to think like all right when i get to this place remember that there's going to be this turn here there's got to be this because obviously it's like an hour's drive and i'm going to go there and now like i'd be useless at that oh no trust me if you ask your parents for directions i mean they'll say go southbound what do you mean southbound just tell me the address let me plug it in you know i get what you're saying yeah so in that sense with this wherever this you see i think there's a a push-pull factor you see where it kind of where there's a need we rise and where there's no need we get relaxed

so in those cultures that did have certain needs like i don't think if i can just look at like let's say the arab culture yes they did have uh arabic poetry and they had epics and because they poetry was the currency of it was it was a it was you know it was cultural currency so they used to use it to boast and to compete and to do stuff so everybody wanted to be good at it because it was fashionable to do so but let's let's take now i i look at my own kind of let's say my grandparents or my great-grandparents

and we look at places like the indian subcontinent now they would have been farmers yeah now they wouldn't have had they didn't have poetry that they resorted to there wasn't that wasn't the cultural capital and they didn't have great epics to tell and so and they were just rural folks yeah so they i don't so that their memory would have more being to do with either roots like if they have to go travel and or to do with certain um like it would have been uh of a utility to their lifestyle i get like yeah neuroplasticity really i mean it just kind of exactly so if you'd

asked them to narrate like let's say you read a poem to them read it back to me they probably haven't done that so yeah they probably won't be able to or they they might do terribly poor attitude whereas if you did that to let's say that you went even further back or you went to a different part of the world where they've got poetry and like look here you have these rap battles oh yeah there are interrupting and the spitting bars and all this kind of stuff they're ever so good at it you know they come up with stuff on the spot and they do all of this but that's because there's a culture for it and they are a part of that culture that totally makes

sense yeah but if you know if you if you weren't a part of that culture like look i'm not a part of that kind of if they just put me in you do it i'll be like what the hell how on earth do i do this so i think we all have the capacity to work our memories to a certain level but it's like a push-pull factor yeah based on need we will rise to it and when we're relaxed we'll just get chilled no it makes sense bother with it yeah well i guess look that's both great and i think you know an important point to mention there as well i think in in the west it's what's really crucial to i think we know this but

sometimes to realize it is information is no longer the valued asset like because information is readily available at the fingertips so you see i can just type anything i i can bring up much more information than the person teaching me you could be a professor on something but i've got access to like yes you could teach some you could teach me about physics but i could just watch it yeah could you imagine what arguments were like back then like just go seven generations ago and they're arguing about who's the president or who's the president you know a hundred years yeah they would just have to like go with

someone's words or go to the library exactly can you imagine now information is not the valued asset what it is is your ability to analyze and assess and be able to filter through information you see this is why some people whereas in parts of the muslim world they haven't really there's still that disparity so they're still in the age where information is so if you memorize so they will say oh he memorizes this many books by hank [Music]

but a person in this part of the world will think well but i don't need to memorize them because i've got them on my phone exactly but have you ever analyzed and evaluated and to them it would be like whoa what why would we need we just need to memorize it there's this the sanctity of you know kind of embodying the text you see it's still there's a a gap between the world still that in this part of the world it's more about critique critical thinking and analysis and it's not so much about having to harbor information

whereas before it was and in some parts of the muslim world it still is about harboring information and not about critical analysis so now we have too much information now there's so much information that really the natural selection is going to filter for people who are able to discern the information authentic fine what's not authentic and not this is why the schooling system is failing because they're still teaching information it's stupid i don't understand why they're just teaching teaching information they need to be teaching children how to filter through information not because it's dumb like you know they just continue they're just doing the same thing they were doing with us in the 20s

when we were kids i'm older than him but so i suppose even further back and it's just that same thing and it's it's useless because the kids you know okay they don't know it but they can just bring it up they know exactly yeah yeah it's not a surprise for them yeah so rami shukran as always it's a pleasure to take care of yourself right people that is rami right all right interesting discussions there we've got to start wrapping this up as well who have we got here we've got atar khan i've got one two of the cameras but

they're just completely dark i can't see anything on the other cameras so uh i don't know whether that's because it's not working or what but yep how are you i'm good how are you i'm good good good it's been a long time i spoke to you four or five months back and now i'm talking yeah i remember i recall i recall the name and i recall you yeah it's good good speaking to you how are you keeping yeah good good uh coping up with my job and all that other stuff and also listening to your lectures and stuff

and trying to cross-compare with some other good scholars getting more into confusion than somewhat getting a clear path too it happens yeah it's all part and parcel of of this path we call it yeah that's it yeah so uh mukti i was uh trying to understand some of the concepts that you gave through quran uh about miracles and on the birth of mary and also uh birth of mary yeah

birth of jesus sorry sorry birth of jesus and also some other concepts on abrogation and several times just for a moment just remind us again what country what where are you joining us from there's somebody new jersey that's it all right awesome sorry carry on i am uh dr shady's mastery neighbor your friend seriously you have to convey my love to him yeah tell him i hope he's well

[Music] a lot of things to say over there too but i just want to stick to a few questions mostly uh just to have a better understanding on a few of the things uh well you remember you told uh in one of your clip that uh what you might call uh the first the abrogation that seemingly have some of the ayats that does portray that they are abrogated now so is that my true understanding does the quran

have any abrogation in it yes that are no more applicable yeah i would agree that there is abrogation yeah okay and i mean so they are no more applicable but they're just there just to read and no no applicability there right okay so it depends what you're asking like can still rulings be derived from them they can because it shows so let's say a verse it shows development it shows a gradual approach it shows that rulings are agile it shows

that social norms will change and the response must change there's a lot to still take from me but if you mean that one particular point that one particular point is the example to give you the other points okay uh so uh what i was trying to understand uh uh the concept of uh uh uh yeah okay yeah yeah so as per my understanding with uh various other scholars they say that uh

it's not necessary now that you you you do see and that ayat is uh no more applicable but it just abrogated it's just there in quran and that's it i mean i don't know if i agree with that verse being abrogated but i um i know several ulama do say the wasseya was mandatory i would say that was here is still there as they say as well they will see is still there but except they said except we all agree that the wasia is is optional it's recommended to do about to leave a will um is is optional but it's recommended so they

the difference is it's ruling being changed let's say is that an abrogation um is sorry i interrupt you but what's what's your what's your question uh so uh i was just trying to understand the concept like is that really a true concept uh or it's just a lack of understanding there on various scholars because some say there are five verses that are abrogated some say it's 19 some say 63 and it goes to 500.

uh yeah yeah ceoti as well has the whole disc a bunch of people have discussions on it and same for the karats like some say seven some sets ten some say fifty i guess i mean these are completely different disciplines yeah yeah yeah has nothing to do with this yeah yeah so um right so abrogation is you see there's two things one is the concept one is the the what you call so you've got um so what we're looking at is the uh the monot and then which is the applicability so where does

it apply so for example we may agree that analogy is a tool and we may think that analogy is is it is a fine tool there's nothing wrong with analogy most the methods all agree agree on chaos analogy they all disagree on where it applies so some people say this chaos applies here people say no no it doesn't apply here it applies over there somebody said no no it doesn't apply the applies here so this

it's applicability people will disagree so in abrogation do i believe in the concept of abrogation i believe the concept is important because i believe slavery was abrogated i believe that kind of any kind of corporal punishments like that were abrogated uh i believe like so these things for them to have been abrogated there was the concept of abrogation was there in the quran to show that so it's important um for the whole picture ties in very well that's that's how if you're asking me about the concept in the quran there are some

examples like when you're going to pray and alcohol for example most people pretty much agree on things like this like the alcohol example and they might agree on one or two other examples little examples but they disagree on most of of them yes okay okay and uh mostly i need two references uh uh one you said um uh character reference [Laughter] job interview

actually i was in conversation with one of one of another mufti and i i guess i told you previously so he he he totally negated the concept when you uh uh that the consumption of dogs or other animals as per malki's full of thought it's allowed what i heard uh from you but uh he quoted me a reference from motha and he said that see this is malik saying that it's it's it's not allowed so that's where i was a little confused uh that if you have quoted that you have

quoted somewhere i mean is he a is he is he a maliki no he's uh he called himself uh like okay no but he's hanafi he's not yeah yeah okay yeah his research is very superficial in the maliki method i'm not saying that to knock him i'm just saying i don't even know who he is but i'm just saying that as a factual statement now yes the hadith is in the mata of imam malik and not every hadith in the mother of imam malik does imam malik except he actually put certain hadith there to

show that it's problematic that said uh it is true not all maliki's accept that ruling not all maliki's except that um so people like ibn abdulbar tries to argue that these animals are haram but the majority in the mashup of the method i'm not really somebody that's into mushrooms but those because it's part of institutionalization but that's it so the fatwa books the main fatwa books of the maliki method they very clearly say that all animals are uh the the ruling that i taught that none of those things are haram they makaru

um including many of the tafasir like ibn arabi he writes it all of these people right it's a very well known thing within the market it's not a fringe or a minority opinion it's the majority opinion of the maliki method so it's it's it's the majority so only the minority disagree with it yeah we'll see i sent your clip uh to him and he said uh i need a reference so so uh so yeah yeah

it's it's it's you see the you see this is the the problem that if a person if a person doesn't know how to find basic references they are not but basically they're punching above their weight like this is not for them so if i've so for example imagine i i'll ask you about cryptocurrency and you say yes they say i want to do so i say okay so what's a uh wait a minute what's an exchange uh how does that like i don't even know what these things are then

obviously i need to learn or i need to ask somebody else to do it or it's not really you know i'm not in that field i'm not i'm basically a bit slightly above my i don't it doesn't mean i can't get there but i need to there's a huge gap in my capacity so anybody that's ace learned within islam should be able to find these references with ease so it's very easy like these are not like so for example let me tell you sometimes i quote very difficult masa kind of like the issues that few people have discussed nobody's discussed them

very i mean when i say nobody nobody generally a few people have discussed them i for some reason end up finding these things now i can understand there people are struggling to get hold of it because they they don't have that talent to be able to dig that deep because this requires some really deep level of uh you know you need to know how to because i i realized it surprised me but i i realized that a lot of people ain't actually good at even google searches like effective searches i mean anybody can do a search but they're not actually

good at effectively researching online i used to think everybody could do it until i remember being with a couple of people and realizing what on earth are they doing why haven't why haven't they found this yet and i realized it's actually they don't people don't know how to search keywords like what do i like how do i get to something so i agree so anyway the point is now you bring it back to the islamic thing so there's some discussions that are very like gems rare stuff that kind of stuff asking for a reference or asking for guidance like can you guide me like give me some names so i can find that area and then narrow

myself in that makes sense but something like this dietary laws within islam if you can't find dietary laws within islam according to the malachi madam you don't know i mean you could just type that in english and it would come up then you are punching way above your weight like this is you're in the wrong place you're totally in the wrong lane this is so easy but if you are asking for books every single maliki fit book you just go to the section and you go to that section you go to the section on food

it will tell you very clearly that what is haram what isn't like mukta khalid is a fatwa book within it's a very basic i mean very summarized text but it's it's got a bunch of commentaries on it um so he says it in there as well that this is the opinion that it's not haram so yeah and even imam malik did said that uh we can we can we can uh reject the sahih hadees as well and this is within mata right so he doesn't just say that he does better than that he himself rejects a bunch of hadith within his own mother so

imam in the mata he brings several hadith but he says after them we don't act according to this hadees that said to be in all fairness after this hadith that he brings of abu hurairah about the predatory animals are forbidden he doesn't speak he doesn't say anything so in all fairness after that one he doesn't say oh we don't act according to this he doesn't say we do he doesn't say anything but he brings the hadith now many this is why ibn abdullah tried to argue that point uh that this mawlana was doing but ibn abdullah himself believed these things to be haram so he tried to say

this is what i think imam malik was doing uh when he did that but ibn abdullah is in a minority in the maliki method for for saying that and i'm not against minorities i'm just saying i'm just telling you uh if a person wants to be in a minority it's up to them but i'm just saying this is the other people say imam malik brought this hadith because it's got an airline and you have to be able to detect the ella and the ella was the hadith is transmitted purely by basal yin and how can it be that nobody from madina knows about dietary food how can it be that the prophet lived in madina and nobody in medina knew that

predatory animals are hara and mufti that clearly matches with uh quranic ayats too i mean uh yeah like i read today yeah the ayah i've read today it says tell them i don't find anything haram for he says that the school of medina is built on this this when it comes to dietary food yeah but when you tell a normal person or an average person uh they're the shock and they they tend not

to believe on it oh yes i i get that i get that because it's it's it's a culture shock yeah yeah okay because people have a picture that first of all people have an um an assumption of a homogenized islam so they think islam everywhere is always the same symmetrical but it isn't but they think that and us i mean it's a it's a nice simple beautiful kind of a thought but it's not true i feel that in its diversity it's even more beautiful but they you know

at a simpler level people don't like that they see disagreements as conflict disagreements are not necessarily conflicts they are diversity but people you see young people think binary so they think black and white so children you have to teach them binary black and white black and white black and white but as the the human mind and brain kind of becomes more sophisticated we can handle gray areas we can handle color but some people they don't advance that much in their kind of mental stuff like they they're not dumb but they're not not

that analytical either so they just they're kind of still relatively simple minded so and that's okay to get by i'm not trying to say everybody needs to be super intelligent but they and they they think so to them they have fundamental concepts like religion is simple so allah is simple which is right as well they write in that sense there's nothing islam is simple as well but you see what they forget is simplicity is the highest of sophistication you see they forget that because it's

not that they forget they don't realize that you know in simplicity in the rose petal the in the sorry in the rows and the way it's petals are organized in nature there is immense mathematical sophistication immense if you look at the golden mean how it manifests itself in nature in the sunflower plant and this immense sophistication and mathematical sophistication but the average person doesn't like they don't realize that but they just see the niceness of the flower and they think all the flower looks nice but there's

great kind of patterns that have been placed there for it to make it look nice obviously it's in nature allah has placed them so these people they say oh you know islam is simple it is simple but for it to be simple it has to be sophisticated so it's true one last question was the uh very short question um oh my god we think yeah on the concept of sorry no sorry carry on yeah yeah so uh you believe in the concept of like there are no miracles uh if i'm if i'm not wrong here right because now you believe no you are wrong okay i know i believe

in miracles we all believe in miracles um like the miracle of life is a miracle that we can whatever miracle of consciousness is something we can't explain um we all believe in miracles no uh like uh i'm i was talking in a reference like anything that has been created the set rules of god allah now they will not change and if anything come across that we don't see you see look there are right this is to me this is you see a bit of a useless discussion

because the reason being there is no real disagreement everybody accepts the stories as they are told in the quran nobody disagrees with these things everybody agrees that these are very short glimpses into a story and incident that there is no overall telling of a story allah doesn't tell you details and details of what happened with musa alaihis it's just one verse here one verse the one verse that it's it's what they call uh in in literature what the term ellipsis okay or elliptical kind of uh sequence where things are missing so

let's say in english i say uh this happened dot dot dot the dot dot dot means something's missing and then you carry you you figure that out like you you know he came home dot dot dot the house erupted you understand does that mean something happened here because dot dot dot so this is everywhere in the quran this kind of dot dot it's it's part of the arabic language ellipses so now the question is nobody's disagreeing on any of these stories nobody's disagreeing on these incidents the question is

that let's say something happened that was spectacular did allah adopt a means for it to happen or was there no means in the galaxy and it just happened to some people they say look no means existed in the entire universe and it just happened tk you know that helps them yeah it's a wonderful way of them being kind of like the iman is kind of strengthened to other people they would say look allah didn't mention it but of course there's always means to something you know like i say the rain fell obviously for the rain to have

fallen the clouds had to have picked the water up from somewhere yeah they picked it up from a reservoir and they brought it and the winds had to have blown and so things had to have happened but you every time you say oh it rained you don't need to say oh by the way a cloud got formed by this happening by this happening so so this discussion on were there any means adopted for the realization of certain events it's really to me a fruitless discussion because if it helps you to think look there were no means then that's wonderful i have no objection if to other people they think well you know no that's they would

always be means fine that's wonderful as well it doesn't diminish from the book of allah yeah mostly based on my understanding i think it helps you to understand a lot of concepts i mean once the means are established then those beings are not changed they will stay the same that will stay the same right because there are a lot of people who uh put those things uh not in line with that uh i see uh for example um

so that actually uh you see but this is this is no but this is the no but this is the point you see okay you see it's not a problem whatever a person wants to take they can take it if it helps this person in this way that allah never says in the quran once ibrahim you guessed this there was a gap wasn't there that they prepared the fire for ibraheem dot dot dot allah saved ibraheem from the fire you then said in your mind okay i want a

picture that he was thrown in now allah never says that in the quran but he leaves it for you if you want to understand that and it helps you take it if somebody else thinks not allah saved him from being fallen in then like it helps however the quran helps you in its understanding is wonderful you don't need to the quran you see the arguments these people who disagree are not disagreeing on what the quran says they are disagreeing on what it doesn't say but what they are filling in in the blanks so the quran never and this is to me the miracle of the quran

i find this so amazing that the quran doesn't actually say these things because you see it that is part of the the amazing nature of the quran and the miraculous nature that otherwise it would you see it would have it would have been it would have had you know certain people would have struggled with it but the quran was for everyone it was for these people who are going to say yeah i'm going to fill this blank in with this story and it was for other people that are going to say no but that's not how the

world works and it's fine for them you see allah it's what people are fighting over is the gaps that they are filling in they're not fighting over the actual allah never you mentioned virgin birth allah never says once in the quran that jesus was born from virgin birth but that's the dot dot dot it says that oh mary says that oh i haven't had any kind of intercourse yet

angel says this is the will of god dot dot dot jesus is born now it leaves it some people would say of course this is the this is what the christians have told us this is the virgin birth and alhamdulillah you know if it helps their iman it's wonderful other people would think no in the dot dot dot it meant obviously she had a husband and they had a child so it worked but look the miracle of the quran is it left that gap it could have just filled it in but it didn't and people are only arguing over the gap they're not arguing over the verse

because the real message was not you see these yeah when allah is telling a story in the quran these stories are for you to get a moral from them to benefit to get inspiration they're not to get caught up in the detail you know like in fact what's funny is the story i say funny what's ironically funny here is the story in the quran that shows that is when allah is condemning it that the israelites get caught up in the detail of the cow what color is the cow how old is the cow allah says that what's wrong with these people

what's wrong with them who's told them to go into this kind of detail if they want to do it personally but they're getting they take making the religion about the detail so you see when the story is being told about moses he did this he saved the israelites this is a story of the that is testament to the to the to the power of human will to resistance to fighting for liberation to to believing in god against all the odds even against an empire and still coming through this is about that now people start saying what was the the staff made out what

kind of wood was it made out of what was the achar how did he throw the was it but this was never the purpose behind this allah telling you the story it wasn't do you know in pakistan and most of the sub quantum areas uh if you don't believe on these two concepts you

know people people will chuck you out of the deen for for anything but this is why you know i've said before this isn't their dad's theme this is nobody's islam to chuck somebody out of this you know i gave that i said it actually saddened me wallahi saddened me to read people were making god like not not that it wasn't i wasn't saddened because of it was me but i was saddened that that wow you have like how like you know like they make dua that this person becomes an atheist

where is the message of our prophet like if just one person can embrace this wonderful message that you know just just anything like the person saying i'm not going to pray i'm only going to pray once i ain't going to do the prophecy the person saying look i'm going to prophet saying what happened welcome the person chase is saying insulting the prophet and the prophet still saying he doesn't know hold back everyone doesn't matter it doesn't matter you know if he wants to it's up to him it's a free he wants to insult me let him insult me i'm just going to say something nice to him i'm i'm going to respond with kindness

you know don't scare people away invite them yes make things easy we've got this list here from all the way from there to here if you disagree on one of these points we're going to be the first to chuck you out of islam you're out you think to go who gave you anyone the license this is allah's faith this is this is god this is people connecting to god nobody owns it nobody has a monopoly over the quran or the prophet or islam you know we why are we and this is the disappointing thing why do

we oh we just lost um we just lost why are we so wanting to chase people away from this thing it really because can you just imagine seriously for a moment just think how hurtful this is that i thought khan is back sorry we lost you yeah just think how hurtful this is to the prophet who spent his entire life that part of the life for this message that it would reach us and we

are so busy just trying to talk people who have it out you know check him out check him out check him out the prophet endured so much just so one more person will accept this message yeah and the people were being sometimes arrogant with the prophet they were being hard with him they were being difficult with him the prophet needed help bunny that they've said that tribe they had money they had might and they said we'll embrace islam but we're not going to give you a penny we're not going to give you a single soldier what do you say prophet says islam

he said welcome he said like they say they say the prophet's dean this is the dean of islam the prophet is the one inviting people you want to engage in debate do it in a way that is so good be absent it is wrong with the and this is why you know when i said earlier on people like mike tyson say look religion just has too much conflict in it

you've heard of the crab mentality the crab mentality right so you get the crabs and you put them in a bucket and the and you see if it's just one crab it can climb its way out but you put a bunch of them in there and when one crab climbs up the others pull him down and what happens is if he keeps trying they actually break his legs and on some occasions they'll actually kill him and this crab mentality is how has this come in an ummah whose prophet is

come as a mercy for the world so it's it it's saddened but people will do it i to me my my message would be ignore people who don't spread love if you're not about spreading love then tk you know it's it's their thing i just my advice would be to just be on your path be focused yeah you see that because if the dean hasn't fixed your ego of control of power of hate then the deen hasn't done anything for you you know your salah and your psalm and your hajj hasn't done anything if you are if you have such a hateful ego

that you know you are just oh him him you know i watch this clip of these dawah videos saying you will die upon kufa by the way you guys are going you will all die upon kuffar so i start for allah you know this is these are these are hurtful because this this deen is something that's supposed to improve your life not something that's supposed to make someone so hateful and you know toxic and shout at people and do all of this stuff and if it is doing that then you know you haven't found allah that's the truth

it will be enough you've only found enough yeah very true way to yeah but yeah shukran um guys we've gone on for so long i do appreciate uh there's uh i write quite a few super chat shook him for the super chat um

is nothing but a tool of power people who think the prophet only came to establish khilafah it's like people playing with their toys that's what it is but hey um guys right let's wrap this up shukran it's been awesome ideally appreciate uh you guys kind of spending all this time just gotta be emotional you know this kind of stuff it uh it gets to me sometimes i think maybe it's it's old age i don't know but it kind of it's hurtful

to see all this and and you know i i get a bit emotional sometimes guys take very good care of yourselves um um just checking if you're not already [Laughter] mariam much appreciated if you've uh not already liked and subscribed then make sure you get over there and do that i've um i've got a few of the videos up there already the mind trap it's really interesting the recent one it's on essan

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