Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 114

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asylum alright since you guys are the guests really tall it's all about youth it's what it's about so water what what's on your mind people what's on your mind what's the fit on an facade saying I hope you guys are conquering the fitting in facade out there Aloha if he's already got a question he's like oh my question my question to questions I'll start off with two questions

so why understand it now if you've never understood it you know life's been going so well then you've never understood it [Music]

that's the first one the first one gone then what's the second you better match up to the first now that's like if such a second standard [Music]

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discrepancy why the difference I forgot the first one what's the first question first question was on Oh bring us what I like on to this second question was discrepancy or what is that something to begin with people the questions too intense what what is the thawab look at here's a question what is the thought for visiting Bradford Sherif and that would have been a more interesting easier to answer question depends what you go into to do in Bradford Sherif alright so well

okay so first right bit of a heavy question really to begin with but Allah there's a challenge in the Quran that if you can bring something like on to this Quran in this surah what is it then Allah mentions that bring something like on to these verses and in one verse that Allah which them at Allah general even Entertainment int get together you know they can't bring something mr.

haddle Quran that like this Iran so what is what is this challenge about and does it still exist today is this challenge still they now right I think this is first of all this is an area in which I am I did mention on one of my lives that I'm recently kind of in for the past few months I've been researching and that's research is still ongoing so if I in the future change some of my views it's because I'm still reading up on a lot of these things but I think my

understanding so far is that this challenge that Allah said in the Quran was primarily to the nun to the Arabs of the prophet's time it isn't primarily for people today it isn't something which Allah was set out for people today but he set it out for the people amongst whom the Quran was being revealed that they were being challenged because they were both full of Arabic that okay bring something like on to this Quran this wasn't something like forever going to be a test in my understanding although I

accept there is a view that it's like so some Muslims historically have said this what I'm saying now some Muslims have said this was a test forever what people would always like 2000 years later you can still apply for that test as in let me challenge the reason I think that isn't the point because first of all before I go into into that we need to understand what is it when Allah saying bring something like on to it what is the it like what is the the element of the challenge like what are you trying to compare is it eloquent

is that the is that the point many people understood that the quran was speaking about eloquence this is what many people understood not all Muslims understood that so many people in the past did disagree with that they said that that wasn't what the challenge was about eloquence and some Muslims felt that people could have brought eloquent things just like the eloquence of the Quran so some Muslims held that view some Muslims held the view that the Quran contains Arabic an Arabic was the spoken language and so to say that the Quran is Arabic his miraculous would mean that the normal peoples are because

miraculous because they speak in the same language so it can't be the style that is the challenge that certain people felt that and some people even felt that any person could bring Arabic like onto the Quran that was some Muslims not the majority though the challenge of the Quran was in the coming together of the Quran so the Quran is more than just its style of recitation like you've got my let's say you're gonna put Allah had a loss Ahmad now there's a style to what's being an

eloquent a style a flow but the Quran is more than these things it's not just about like poetry or poetic style or rhythm so the Quran was about a comprehensive meaning it was about things like some people said is to do with all the or Ahnold prophecies about the future in some things it does it was about that but more than all of these things I think that it was about the impact it would have on their on the listener that the way would impact the hearts Allah be the krail I thought my

that with Quran the hearts fine tranquility so it wasn't just the style but the impact so when you're hearing something it's impacting you this is or we call this qualitative it's not something quantitative it's not about measuring it it's the qualitative subjective experience I'm listening to something it's give it's it's it's making any it's evoking an emotional reaction I'm getting motivated emotional okay and to be fair that happens with other things as well you could be listening to a song and it could be causing some impact you could be listening to music it causes

some impact poetry it causes some impact it's not I'm not saying that this doesn't happen with anything else but the Koran strikes that chord as then in addition to that apart from the impact the way this book will be received amongst a people the mahkum that they will give this book the fact that this book will then go on to serve as a rock upon which generations and in fact a civilization will pace itself all of these things put together was part of the challenge that you bring something

that can do all of that the Quran what you call in Gestalt psychology was that the that's that the whole is greater the whole of it is greater than the sum of its parts so if you put you know you've got individual part but the whole is greater than just the sum of its individual parts so it's not just about eloquence it's not just about style or it's not just about being like this but when you put it together there's almost like I don't mean it in a folkloric or superstitious sense but like a magic to it that it has evoked this response it's

had this sanctity in the hearts of Muslims it served as the bedrock for their civilization they've committed it to memory they've treated really sacredly I mean it's something bring something that can do that so that would be the challenge in my understanding in that sense it could still be there today if we take the challenge to mean something which is just to do with the eloquence of the Arabic like many Muslims thought so what I've said Muslims have said this like people in the past like mom hot Barbie or the other or did say this that it's a lot of

things it's not just like the eloquence is not just this but if you take it to be just the eloquence that the Quran is so eloquent that that is the challenge alone that bring something so eloquent I disagree that that was the challenge unless that was just what I was saying earlier on for the early Arabs so that part if you take that to be the challenge than that only for the early Arabs today in all honesty we can't even appreciate true Arabic what makes it so like even though we understand Arabic like those of you have studied Arabic if we read the Quran we understand the Quran but it you know there's subtleties

we don't underst like I don't we won't appreciate that oh well they put this particle here this particle could have been replaced by five other particles but what was the you know what is the significance here like subtleties like I think it was the the great poet I'm sorry grammarian Mubarak who's from the bursary kind of those of you into Arabic drama he's from the bus free school and he he's like one of the final tons of the school of Basra in drama but abul abbas al mubarak now he was asked that what you know you have the sentence

like in arabic who was 8 he is 8 and he said what in a who's 8 like yeah like surely like in the classical era like English surely he is 8 like that but obviously today we don't speak like surely but but it means it's just a bit of emphasis there like in nuns 8 it still means he is say in na Na's 8 Lam is just for emphasis again it's just like saying he's eight with an exclamation mark today yeah he said like each one of these three things means something entirely different so he said one would just be a statement

like saying Roy somebody's asking one would be a response to somebody saying Oh who's he and I said oh like if I say oh he's Shaaban that's a response he said the other one like in Naju that this would be where I'm trying to highlight something special about like for example if I'm going to say all that oh that char bond over there signal day like in that example in on to the extent that you would be like oh it's as though you were asking you're not asking who is

he but you're asking which one is he which one is he like something like oh that's that's him and if I had said in Naju less aid it's like you're saying now that can't be him the question here would be that compy him and I'm saying no that's definitely him but yet this subtlety in Arabic in all honesty we don't really appreciate these kind of subtleties even if we understand Arabic this is like people in the past maybe appreciate it stuff like this we today can't you know to us it's just ok it's nice Arabic but it's it's

nothing but like we can't fathom so today this is why I said that every challenge doesn't really exist in my understanding because nobody speaks Arabic like that and even if they try it like nobody who's gonna judge it because we can't appreciate that kind of Arabic today but in the day image they could have and they could have tried to challenge it from that perspective today even the Arabs don't speak Arabic that well and you know I'm definitely not on a subtlety level like the way the Quran is or things like that and the Atheist Quran thing is just the one I've seen so far just it's just a parody it's just a

kind of like a joke it's not it's nothing eloquent I mean you can bring it up on YouTube it's just they've the only thing is it sounds like Quran because they're reading it like the Quran but the rhythm was never poor on like the rhythm this is something we as Muslims have kind of made up along the way like we read the Quran with a rhythm like you know we recite like you've got certain styles of recitation and but obviously in the prophet's time the name is to read the quran like that so today we do that so we're so used to the Quran being read in this rhythm that if we hear something in that rhythm we assume

it's the Quran so they've done the atheist Quran where they saying you know what is the bismillah cool free well I'll had and this and that in the name of atheism and kufur and you know I don't remember it but I saw it's just it makes basic I read you know in title what is the key table but yeah I come in Bashar in or something he says but they're reading it like Quran so if you common Muslims you don't understand our majority the Muslims don't understand Arabic so if you hear it you're just gonna think oh that's the Quran and they've done it as a parody just to kind

of mock and say like can you guys even tell the difference and they're saying all kinds of things in it like oh that you know he didn't that your prophet didn't even know that the earth goes round the Sun and you know things like this they're saying in it so but it's nothing Elif it's nothing like wow and I'm not saying that just because you know being a Muslim they it genuinely isn't anything it's just very standard Arabic so that's but this rhythm of the Quran I mean it's fine okay today we read like that everybody's used to it but in all honesty in the past people like Imam Malik were very strict against these kind of things you don't like my Malik had a very strict personality on

these kind of matters of like things to do with the what were symbols of the Deen like the Quran he didn't like people singing like that like in you know reading it like in that manner even the other than today you know like Allah you know like all this kind of stuff they he considered that Buddha he was harsh against these kind of things he felt that you know that this was but other scholars were fine with and today it's it's you know because it's so widespread and everybody's accepted it's fine I mean I'm not saying it's such a big deal but I'm just giving an example that Imam Malik was against these kind of things he wasn't down with these people reciting the Quran like that

because he said by doing that you're gonna lose focus of what it's actually about and then it's just gonna become known as a rhythm which to be fair today has pretty much just become known as a rhythm like the way you read it but yes so yeah cool let's go for some people all right oh my god the people name some tough acid well awesome

what Topsy's compute my no my rock mine is that is that you her always asking about the daily a poetry online arrived Nigeria robbery what else have any other tough sieves coming to mind even a Kathy right the question chef rise a machetes huh yeah one I don't look at the awesome

any of those people any of those not necessary oh we got some some connoisseur she asked some expertise Razi yes that ham so people there's so many tougher seed in the past when you're saying classical I'm not sure what you mean by classical because everybody's got their own understanding of what classical means as classical just mean anything from a few hundred years before backwards or does it mean something only a thousand years ago and prior to that what does it mean like

what does classical mean but putting that aside there's a lot of tough a seer available the imagery of Tabriz to be fit of zeref body is actually probably it's very early it's over a thousand years old and it is probably more reliable than many too fussy although it doesn't cover so many things it's just it is still quite basic he gives he gives like explanations of certain verses he'll give some rulings he tries to bring hadith and he every time he brings hadith he brings the chains for hadith so you can check them out it is quite authentic it's like an

authentic kind of very very traditional style of tafseer the other stuff are sealed which are full of everything like good to be Razi all these people they're kind of data if McCarthy is still quite maybe intermediate it doesn't he doesn't go into too much detail on things just stories what's this what's that yeah it's difficult really saying what of seal is authentic because a lot of tough a sieve the problem not the problem but the thing with the far series they all come with an angle so it's like here's

the Quran what's your angle of explaining it your angle is going to be now shaped by you the your personality so if you were somebody who loves fake then UFC is gonna be all about fit so it's all gonna be about this ruling here that ruling the it's all about rulings if you were a linguist you're tough scenes gonna be all about grammar all about you know - saravana hast of zero is called a robber or an of Samarra stuff see it's all really about pile of linguistics rhetoric style Arabic it doesn't mean they don't speak about

anything else they do but that's the bulk of it like it's very clear that's what it's about so it's like today saying that imagine the Quran was there today and depending on your career you take that approach so if you're I don't know if you if you're like a pilot and then everything you're doing about the tough series from that angle is to do with aviation is to do with how aerodynamics oh this is an amazing verse it highlights the aerodynamics laws and it does this and it does that and each thing you keep bringing in what you're into and if somebody was I don't know into sports and then they would just

keep bringing their flavor into the tafseer of each verse so it's difficult really I would say just you have to just explore different - Farsi or whatever you're comfortable with these classic tough series like code Toby's is I do really like it of Sierra Rossi I like you more recent of series of if not should I do like it's very comprehensive there's a tough sale in the past I mean about when about 17th century I think he's a humble even ideal humble he's called a little verb once again very comprehensive there's so many tough I

see it I hope that of some help it's difficult somebody said her aligned look at that we don't there you go well I've already answered the question on hold right okay cool people so what else let's take some all right maja wealthy or mine you're doing it him to and he come wants the questions before before the coming of Jesus hopefully

[Laughter] yeah yep I mean I am in Charlotte thinking of beginning some hadith classes useful hadith I'm thinking of doing them live from here actually I mean when I say life I don't know how the life I don't think there'll be life like this life but as in in person here from the ark and the fik I'm thinking of teaching online so gotta still explore one two of the different platforms and teach that online but insha'Allah let's

get on to that look at I look it up questions over yeah I could see so go on there was some question see the yeah what question have you got the you got a question no question seriously yeah on then what sir no let's take some of their questions people

right okay the verse of the Quran wa qarna fi beautycon or tribute hakuna that that sit in your homes and an group and go over my utah leak on what is being recited over you from the verses of the quran and things like that and learn them and Allah wants to purify you I think that's a misinterpretation a lot didn't mean for them that they have to sit at home because they clearly didn't sit at home they weren't just women that's how they went about they would travel they would

the wives of the Prophet would go you know go with whether visit family visit friends they would go out and about they would work they would travel they would so this isn't true that they just sat at home that means not I don't think any of them as far as I'm aware ever just sat at home so but the verse is talking about the wives of the Prophet but sit at home isn't the command that's just coincidental it's like if I say you know why don't you just sit here and learn what I'm telling you the important thing that I'm trying to say is learn what I'm telling you that

why don't you just sit here is how it's part of speech it's how we speak how we say things it doesn't I think some people have taken that and then said oh they were meant to say but the voices probably didn't sit at home I mean regardless of what people say there's so many I had E that they would travel they would do their own things so if then some people extrapolate from that women can't go out so women have to sit at home which judging by that there's none here I take it that's in full effect

right so the but I think that's ridiculous really to be honest with you that Oh a car you know while back I got into a discussion he's still on YouTube discussing with Chef up to Abdul Shakoor Brooks about this issue and it came up that he believed I don't know whether he still believes but I can only speak of at the time that oh a woman can't go out to to just have a walk like she can't go

out just for a walk even that's it's Haram that is such a ridiculous I mean even cavemen wouldn't have those kind of rules like even the Neanderthals would have enjoyed much more freedoms than than that and how backwards do you want to go I mean that's like this is so these kind of things really damage Islam because they make Islam look so stupid and the truth is nowhere does that happen no way like I don't know what I mean I mean generally speaking I'm not saying it hasn't happened anyone maybe these kind of things people have done

that some way but generally and I was giving examples that even if you take Muslim countries like people they still go out they stall work like if you look at many Muslim now there's a huge urbanization project across the world people in the past lived in rural parts of the world you know women worked in fields most of these I gave the example there to go to places like Pakistan if you go to the rural parts if you speak to people who are elderly like let's say people they cook your grandmother's age or aunts of that age or those kind of even it made me a generation like maybe you I don't know how people are here but

but people slightly elderly you'll see that they all grew up just working the women folk in the fields they all worked they all kind of whether it was you know we - whatever they were working with work they would it wasn't a lifestyle where people to sat at home and this is a very modern kind of thinking that oh we're gonna have a house and you're just gonna sit in this room if people did that in the past they couldn't survive this there's no way that people did things like but yeah so I hope that of some of some help right a rise of what I

love go on with the one question from since we'll come back to meteora mom's probably got a very other be kind of questions lined up about to test the intellect of the Islamic civilization let's go for something a bit more is it on the alum rock level it's alright us in breads will understand me right what do you want to advertise some tattoos off price yeah

tattoos are not Haram contrary to popular opinion that they are Haram yeah just make it sound so simple they're people the the truth about tattoos is that in the past these things the way today tattoos exist didn't exist like this in the past so tattoos have existed in the past like but the purpose behind them was always different so once you understand that you realize that today tattoos are an entirely different phenomenon so even if something did

exist but it doesn't carry that connotation it doesn't it's not the same I mean things change over time they carry certain connotations and so in the past tattoos if you go like back to the time of the Prophet for example tattoos were to brand animals okay so these to brand their animals and these to brand slaves so that's how tattoos existed so they would mark them with these kind of tattoo and they would mark animal animals people still mark and Brandon in some parts of the world and stuff like that

but so they would do that with slaves and so that was the human side of it and they would do it with animals so the Prophet condemned these things so he condemned wash him which today your translators tattoos but what were those tattoos what was the reality of them in his in the prophets lifetime they weren't oh somebody you know some woman had done a tattoo of a butterfly or some guy had done a tattoo on his arm it wasn't like that they were they weren't doing these things didn't exist like that so the way they existed was people would just stain somebody as that

he's my slave or they would do that to animals so the Prophet prohibited that now over the generations after the Prophet some tattoos emerged in the centuries after as things like tribal signs and I'm sure maybe in some cultures they existed already before the prophet's time but in Arabia they weren't as tribal signs in the prophet's time but so you get today as well certain like let's say that the Berber people of North Africa and other kind of tribal regions even some places in places like Pakistan and other places you'll get certain elderly people now elderly women they might have some kind

of tribal kind of tattoos like sometimes just some dots or they might put some dots on their hand and these things are not beautification like by putting like three dots or something on your hand you don't make the hand more beautiful it's not it was like a tribal kind of thing that they just did then along the way you I'm sure maybe some people did try to improve on things from a beauty perspective but this is really more modern so in recent times the last century this has become a huge thing people do incredible artwork they do all kinds of things and drawing pictures and well you know tattoos as we know them

today so the question would be this is a very modern thing which requires a modern evaluation if you say this is Haram of children if you this is Haram based on what so if you say it's Haram based on you know you're changing the creation of Allah that's a weak argument because even in the past the way tattoos existed then many scholars argued against them then even people like from the Maliki's you've had one or two scholars in the past even Imam caffeine is the Thira and this is

going 600 700 years ago argues about tattoos but and they weren't even like today but they were back then the tribal kind of tattoos so he says but why are they Haram and he says well people say you change in the creation of Allah and he says he says well what do you mean changing the creation of a lysis isn't cutting your nails changing the creation of Allah he's a circumcision changing the creation of Allah isn't he puts and he's one of the greatest scholars of Islam and so he's putting these questions and he says well people would say oh yes but changing the creation of a lot to deform it and he said ok but he said what if the tattoos

were to enhance it so he debates this back then when it wasn't you know a fashion and it didn't really exist like it is today so my understanding is if you were to use tattoos in such a way to deform you like you get some people who've changed you know you get that there's some documentary about some guy who's tattooed everything in such a scary ways whole face everything and he can't seem to ever get a job now and he's wondering if wondering why can't I get a job right so I mean I would consider things like that Haram to be you know to do something like that to

yourself or something if it was dangerous like I don't know like I've seen people tattoo their eyes and I don't know the dangers of it sound seems dangerous but I don't know so they turn it all you know like the white part they kind of die and we and so it's either all red or it's black or in just looks freakiest el you've probably I don't know if you've seen the pictures on Google huh what do you guys spend your time doing hardly like you're reviving us-- LOM what are you guys so if you look at these kind of things I would consider

Haram are either for if they're harmful or if they're gonna completely you're making yourself you know just so scary for people but just regular tattoos if people did them I wouldn't say it's encouraged it's probably I would say it's probably discouraged because of the permanency element but I I wouldn't say Haram so I'll probably say mackerel like it's not something I don't think Islam would say always it's a great thing everybody go out there and get tattoos but it wouldn't be all this person deserves to go to hell because is that a tattoo that's so that's my take on tattoos people my take and you'll get a banner coming up here with the discount

if you want to have some tattoos so what's going on all right oh yeah oh we did say too much stuff for Allah see now I don't know some of you would have memorized hadith as well she told me I would come prepared I thought it's just the average you know just the album rock kind of embrace right so

you're right there is a hadith damn how about get out of this one right and it's in Buhari right so he was the same tattoo he was saying it was in an Indian word that's Haram so right so the thing is this hadith that the Prophet said made such and such you know la and Allah may lockers why she

might well most Oshima to oscillate or must oscillate or was it nami site or metonymy cert these women who pluck their eyebrows and these women who we do that for them and those women who connect their here with kind of fake here and those women who connect it for them and those who do tattoos and those who apply the tattoos and those who straighten their teeth and those who kind of straighten it for them and so so this hadith right with with these women wrongly now first of all many people

like the Maliki method now the Maliki mother explains that this hadith was speaking about women going through a mourning not like the morning wake up in the morning wake up in the morning start filing their teeth obviously they're not gonna get Lana is probably fall asleep filing it right so you see morning as in Mike when when the husband is dead he died which are a filing the teeth right

so when the widow is going through the mourning state so this is in the Quran are bata oh my shrah like four months and ten days so this morning state which has something called added or Haddad which means that the woman during this state like this these are the things well like she can't she can't marry and she's not meant to be kind of overdoing like things like trying to beautify yourself and she's going through a state of mourning and grief and like that so the Maliki method said this apply this hadith was for we

in that eighth period not for women generally so the Maliki are quite unique on this and I actually like that interpretation I mean apart from this half being Malachy I think that is actually an awesome interpretation the other interpretation by people I give nor Josie not even ok mojo SIA so they signaled a mojo SIA and this before him about you know almost two centuries before almost this even or Josie so if no Josie is the the main inaudible far achieve nor Josie and he sets up a kind

of school later on and ignore Joe's ignore Joe Zia's dad ends up generations later working in that school so that's why he's called he's likely he kind of supervises the school so he's called pay him josiya the madrasah was a jasja so pay him is somebody that watches over something like a manager I guess like make sure everything's fine so he's the managers and this is epithelium is basically the Sun means the Sun of the the manager if not AML josiya so even or Josie in his book of a common Lisa

he writes that this was a deist was simply the Prophet was telling those women offers a particular type of women in Medina who were imitating certain prostitute women and it was thought this is what he writes in his book he says it was for them these actions in and of themselves weren't haram but it was just that the Prophet didn't like that they were doing this particular fashion that said that was generally adopted by of the age of their age prostitute women so that was his interpretation so not everybody understood this hadith to mean some people have you're right some

people think this hadith means women caught you know so women can't straighten their teeth for example and they all end up like that Shamima Begum all right so the thing is so they can't straighten the tea so they can't pluck the eyebrows they've got like really cyclops eyebrows right obviously that's because they haven't seen Asians and all Pakistanis but the the that's not you see it's silly to say that oh like a woman's gonna straighten her eyebrows I don't know and now she just can get

thrown into hell that's like such a silly that it makes no sense like what's the sense in that like how does that even make any sense so exactly so it makes much more sense that this is what it's talking about because if you say these things are changing the creation of God I mean really change the crazy Oh God by straightening your eyebrows that's like saying that then you should be able to cut your hair and men shouldn't be able to cut the hair and you know like if they shouldn't should they like by that style you shouldn't be able to cut your nails shouldn't be able to have

circumcision because if God wanted you circumcised you should have made you won't be born circumcised why make you be born with some foreskin and then tell you to cut it off like so if you're gonna say doing everything is the changing the creation of a lot then that applies to everything else you've got to simply just laugh in the head off on that right so but then that argument you gotta be fee you gotta be just like if you can you got to use this must be consistency that's what I'm saying I believe that you can make modify modifications to the body it's not like it's not Haram because hence circumcision is more healthy it is more

hygienic it does prevent a lot more diseases even today the studies show that people circumsized are much less likely to contract coming they can still contract let's say sexual diseases but they're much less likely than their counterparts with foreskin for example studies will show these things like so you see that there was wisdom and hikmah and other things as well in these kind of rulings but you can change the creation obviously if if you're gonna say well tough you know the woman just has to soldier out like if she's got like these big eyebrows

like that she just sold then the question is okay what if she's what if she's got a beard some women happy it's you've seen like oh oh bro some women are beards they have like a mustache I mean not they don't have to have it like that obviously it'll be a bit weird if she's pulled it as well right she adds like two three before her name right the thing is but you get this say would that would it be hard on for them to remove their hair and and some people might say yeah and that's just

this is being stupid so you're taking the religion from something amazing and turning it into something so which ends up becoming silly and looking stupid and embarrassing and so yeah so people it's all you cannot surah ali sings what surah at least saying fake Mufti who's Sarah led she's on to she's on to us

people all right sorry help means love people in Arabic to have love make love just just writing poems about builds

reader read out your poems gone we're all gonna hear them Johann matthäus he wants to share some poetry for all the beautiful women out there what is some poetry that you've got it's getting a bit warm heating was on right there so what have you have you got a poem seriously no be shy you can of course you can say poetry about people you mean making it very specific about particular girl just getting her

in trouble you just start making all these poems about a particular girl I know family I like why is he making all these poems but she's like well right so what's gone then what's the or do you mean about women in general or men in general don't know us you got its 21st century 19 we got that fluid people out there poetry is fine and you can say any

kind of poetry you can it can be romantic it can be very explicit it can be there's nothing in fact you see even though in the in the Islamic time as well to be fair this being very explicit poetry as well the jahiliya poetry is extremely explicit it's you know full of war sex everything Islamic poetry as well during the Islamic time it changes depends on the poet some of them are full of alcohol you get this turned towards alcohol there's a lot of poetry

on alcohol once again some of them on sex other people on things there is just pure romantic poetry as well like wrong you know the late Majnu no Laila for example and in Arabic you have this you have many of them so you've got like obviously Majnu no Laila moons the entourage from free Islam you took my dad enteral apart one you took my different entre entre technician dead Facebook yes oh he's from before

Islam now you've got other poets like what is it I mean you've got some kind of like players that kind of emerge on the scene in early Islam this the famous his name yeah I would even a beer a beer oh let me open up it'll be the one meat he does a lot of he's in early Islam like within probably a hundred years of the Prophet he's poetry's very famous this is very kind of this front you know what they call 2002 Shabaab like we just gonna be trying to chat up all kinds of girls and do all of that but then you get other poetry starts to change they start to praise Kings there's a lot of

poetry about praising kings and and stuff like this and it changes as well the style but you can do to hustle this is in Arabic they call it the hustle like doing just about women just saying things praising women saying they say that and a lot of poetry is full of that what a question haha now a song has some hope

it was as though the verse was revealed on what's your name yeah yet eyes on Facebook as yet you're doing it see ad you're doing it right so just because the poet's in the past people flirted in their poetry doesn't make it okay that's a good point but the question is more about you see to make something you got to understand something by default everything is hello unless proven otherwise now unless you disagree with

that principle some people do some people might say everything is haram unless proven otherwise which is stupid because then like to move this I need to evidence to say I can move this to do anything I need evidence which is stupid which isn't how normal majority of the Muslims all accept everything by default is halal unless proven Haram so to prove something Haram you need clear-cut evidence so the question here is what is it that's Haram about poetry is it just speaking about a woman that is Haram like let's say it's let's just say it's women in general there's no specific woman you're not just kind of targeting

a particular woman I'm making her the focus in some poems they did like Majnu know Leila like Maroni's placed by the way his name is place so pace or whether there was what's his name Jamila both in and there was Cathay euro as these are famous you know like in in order do they have like here Ranjha and all these kind of so these are like the famous Romeo Juliet's of the time now in these kind of poems they always just speak about their particular girls at sea but in main poetry they usually speak about anybody and they usually throw in names that they probably made them up or they what they might have been somebody but

people don't usually know who that girl is they just use a name you know like you'll get in the past all these kind of names in famous poems so my point is if that was her arm why would it be Haram what would make it matter what what do you feel is the Haram element that like what the sexual talk we have a Puritan is Weis is Weis is sex is it disgusting it's like

disgusting is it like that is it like if it's between two men up the gear they gotta be okay now the thing is that look cultures are different you have to remember that the Arab culture is not like our indo-pak culture our culture is very sensitive our culture I was thinking the other day it's actually so weird that we don't even have like we're

so sensitive on anything sexual so sensitive that everything is like embarrassing or we have like so let's just take an example let's let's say somebody want to speak about that they had to speak about their private parts let's just say right not not in a like a boastful way although I'm sure that may happen as well now if you take all the ways an example there ain't even words for the actual genitals like if you take I mean there's words that you're probably thinking but there ain't words

that can be used not this words which I like vulgar but there's no formal kind of words there's either metaphors or like words that will say things like Oh like let's say or do they'll use words like that will mean all the reproductive organ they'll use that like a light and a so like this is like a reproductive organ that's that's like a phrase to explain what it is or they might say shut um gar like private parts this you know in he's like imagine you have to speak to a doctor probably say oh if they had to speak up they'd use words like these

words exist like in if you're gonna speak about an Islamic issue about oh you should wash properly they'll use words like I'll wash your private part they don't have an actual formal word they don't even have a word like I don't mean like they don't like the words are either vulgar and they exist on the street level like swearing there are words like that but they don't have a word that you could just say in order to nothing comes to my mind like and I was actually I was thinking how do yell that you never really thought of that what a weird thing like they don't actually have words which which are just

neutral so that reflects the culture of the people this is how these people think that they think it's embarrassing to use any direct word in any formal capacity think about it in English I mean you could you know like if somebody used the word I'm just saying like are we past the watershed we use the word like penis that's not a it's not a you know that's a formal word it's not like a derogatory word or a vulgar word you know auntie if you said Oh for joy now obviously if you said it like bubs and

obviously people understand but the point is that these are formal neutral words they're not like but in Arabic they have loads of words but in order you don't so this goes to show that the culture of the people is very sensitive on these issues they don't like to even discuss them they don't like to you know everything must be a step away step removed so when you're saying poetry that's why in order to poetry you don't get it any obscene poetry generally I'm not saying nobody's made it up I'm sure they have but they don't not like you never get like Holly saying a rude poem

you know never happened like you just be it might be romantic but it'll never be like sexual you couldn't do things not in the ordinal culture in her oblique nonstop yeah they know I mean in the past anyway today are we poetry however it is but in the past they didn't hold back so the question comes back to what is what makes it harm in the profits time were these things considered this disgusting or they were latest soy as natural

expand on the so by saying you're going to end up going out and so people even a text message can lead to zina mashallah

la mer is amongst is in our midst people so note that the question look if I'm not sure what the question is exactly like is it that anything that is flirtatious must be Haram now in the past when they've wrote poetry they just made it popular like they just wrote a poem and people it was a bit like celebrities today like you know they like what I suppose today where social media but in the past they would just make a poem and other people would just popularize it and the way is with songs

and things like that somebody would sing it and then somebody else would sing it and it just become popular like that took a like writing writing love poem to a girl romantic issues today people going on see what this this is what I'd like to get to the heart of the issues in the Muslim community that once what's bothering our youth it's romantic poetry right is it Haram because it's flirting flirtatious look wouldn't you I mean isn't that wouldn't that be natural to

be flirting haha monkey accepted that very easily [Laughter] yami-san Haram Koran they all doing Haram no I mean is it is it natural or isn't it natural to be flirting is it you tell me seem very experienced on the monitor we're obviously very naive in

these just flirting all the time one - yeah give us one as an example

you see the thing is look people say where are the boundaries I think everybody knows deep down right and as to writing poetry generally it well generally is generic and one is specific if somebody wrote a poem for a girl now it's a romantic poem now obviously people may frown upon that from a cultural perspective they may in some cultures they may not obviously in like I said the indo-pak culture people might consider these things bad like oh my god why is your writing about this girl some cultures they wouldn't consider it bad

it just I don't think it makes it harm in any way now I mean otherwise obviously the guy is obviously trying his luck you think I've got a cry somehow you know at the end of the day the alternative is just to be so robotic and the life doesn't work so I love enemies of enemies of love here yes Allah so what else is bothering allah ar-rahman with another question go on then my prime

people look at this another romantic question oh right okay from that oh right very good point very good we have to clap upon hearing the word kawaii what do you want to

translate quoting for our fellow getting carried away everyone just translated as big-breasted just done he was about to take out some pictures to demonstrate oh oh you're late exhibit a I'll just send a group I'll add everybody to a group and send to beaches just so you got right okay so

people ain't into that stuff that wasn't my community at the photo shake that change we change topic me that was like the fastest change of topic I've ever seen from like from kawaii right - or straight - what does it mean

to be touched by the devil there's some subconscious thing here going on right so the question first of all I just want to say going back to the ads question that was a very good point that there's even imagery in the Quran about women and stuff like this obviously you're trying to the angle being that this isn't Haram is just a culture and depends how people speak to some people it's okay to others they might be a bit too sensitive on certain topics I thought that's a good point the reebok question sounds interesting nobody's interested in the robot

question everybody's like so kyo-ahn the water look at them theorem on to describe this column what's your question why are you in - Jon Elia a charm my Shalala unique Joe nearly has an awesome poet I do I do like him great fan of him he's he's a bit dark on in his poetry you know it to be but at the same time is very realistic and very

sometimes a bit too real which is like Oh understand like he gives he has these and I like that side about him this this whole kind of thing and I've said something the past that have really stood out just trying to think hmm I mean there's so many we just put on this spot he he he has this one which I've said before which I've quoted as well

quite a bit that well when it comes to me I'll go through the whole thing but there's there's a lot of there's a lot of poets because you're not into the whole or do thing those of you that are he follows on from people like souther Siddiqui to me i find a bit of a connection between the two and I find that stock realism really because poets are usually so much about kind of having these grandiose nature and this whole you know I'm everything you know like the way Harley

but these people would say oh yes I'll be okay I live Khanna Johnny you know will there be anybody that doesn't even know Holly that you know that will there be such a person whereas he will be like Nicole doll or you know what is it Nicole Darla till same area donk oh yeah kinky GM with Mabel party nari you know like take out my memories from your heart like believe me that I don't have that about me anymore you know this a whole different level he's on a different eye I find him very fascinating that he he has that holiday

Hulk a suburb holiday Hanukkah that shock my couch are shanties in the DK and just so many like this once again that they make you kind of think so sometimes I do you know when I'm just sitting now now go through some Cornelia stuff and go bottle bottle thirdly the pack state it is a very it's a very kind of a dark low kind of poet III do admire his stuff a lot but anyway let's and he has a lot of that on you know one

relationships this thing of where he's like where he says things like they're a teak lake maka and they're tklinken mucho y selita he don't owe mera saath hogi Metin Hara John Doe that you know like it's good to have companionship yet I feel the truth is that you may get to you know be with me but I'll just still remain alone you understand like he's just lost in his own kind of world lost there's a word actually I

came across this that me uses bar Ananda which means it's kind of lost confused in your own kind of world Mir uses the temper and Indaba like to be of this lost nature that he says kaha beta AC Parran GaN data below that we do such last and these kind of crazy where are they born of sourced uncle missus or but naming that it's a shame you never really got to hang around with people like me but that's but order

poetry has its own its own thing to it but now let's take some some course some other questions people if we carry on with the poetry we're gonna have to open up some other drinks now walaikum asalam rather firstly well that you say so I

leak masala very mashallah very see like that's true thicker rightly everybody else romantic poetry love Oh Joan Elia antara was this was that how can we

prepare ourselves for Ramadan mashallah that's it what's your name see that's the that's the kind of this hope people is hope for this oh man that some people they're so far away in the how do I even prepare for Ramallah I suppose well the hadith say that that the companions in sha'ban would stop sometimes practicing the fasts implanted that they would start reciting the Quran this is what the hadith say but I mean if you want you can stop eating from now

that's one way to prepare but I wouldn't advise that one no they you know I think I think it's really good but as a fashion but I don't think you need to necessarily be I mean it's good that you are but I'm just saying I don't you don't need to generally be like right for next year I need to or now I need to start preparing and I need to start doing it I think when it comes it's it's good it's a whole month you know it's it's not gonna just go overnight you can enjoy it well sis here but if the companions are like I'm in Shaba and they would start reciting the Quran and they would some of them would stop

practicing their fasts so I think that's good if you want to do that in Charlevoix masha'Allah make a little game I shall suffice see we feel like embarrassed now I'm talking now I mean anything a cha cha cha what was your second part of your question Oh about the Estella for discrepancies in the recitation of the Y the discrepancies well people the question

is as although we tried to ignore it but he's seeing right in front of me I still try to ignore him but the question is why are the discrepancies in the recitation of the Quran I look I think really this is a difficult question I don't think it was in essence difficult but it's for us difficult why is it difficult for us because we've been conditioned we've been groomed people without knowing it

right so you see post-colonialism people Muslims you know colonialism when it happened so obviously shocking and a lot of tragedies happen interestingly enough it bought an Islamic reaction which for the time may have been really good the problem is afterwards when that immediate challenge kind of went away

left some question marks so for example believe it or not colonialism not that it tried to do this but it ended up reinforcing the concept of Omar amongst Muslims like as surprising as that's going to sound but the truth is that if you went let's say 500 years back 700 years back Muslims never really like they had like in the books there's this thing called Ummah that we are one Muslim Ummah but they never really had that kind of concept so if you look at

the Muslim from 500 600 700 years ago 800 years ago maybe in very early Islam they did maybe in the very early but shortly after this concept kind of stopped and they don't like Muslims just got on with wherever they were they never saw like they had some sympathy yeah those people are Muslim as well but they didn't see any real connection between them and so let's say you took muslims from sudan and he took muslims from like horus on which would be modern-day afghanistan they would have seen zero connection between themselves they wouldn't have and it wouldn't have

really bothered them what was happening over there even if it was a tragic but they might have said oh that's a shame but that's it it was nothing beyond that like it wasn't they generally didn't now it's a different question why did they end up like that why were they like this but that is the truth that that is how muslims were like so when you have cases of support example when the Crusaders come to the Middle East the Muslim kingdoms in North Africa very powerful very powerful the more Hadean the more had were ruled up to a third of Africa and ruled the Iberian Peninsula Europe and rule the Balearic Islands

during the time of what's-his-name our use of the equivalents or who built those of you that seen Morocco you've probably seen you know like they have the koutoubia have you seen the coat appear that kind of squared out kind of minaret which you have it was built by him the city of robot in Morocco was built by him it's called Roboto fat it was built in a time when they were in great great clamor really powerful they would they went like just anybody's they were like ruling he the more hot dynasty had ruled over Africa what no dynasty had ever

ruled they ruled that much like almost a third of the entire African continent huge studies in his time salahuddin writes to him for example that will you send us some military support for the Crusaders no not interested either says walaikum A'Salam Knights ok the the point is that it wasn't because he didn't like him but the truth is in the past there wasn't this concept of OMA the way it is today ironically colonialism reinforced that because

colonialists where they went around the world they were kind of grouping people together saying oh those people are Muslims these people are Muslims so what happened is this force and the fact that they're suffering from the same enemy they've suffering from the same enemy this ended up bringing people kind of psychologically together so people start to share in each other's pain and then oh yeah we are one we are one like this and and then that narrative emerged one would easily say that is definitely like a good thing we have that we do definitely have this today that if you went somewhere today people feel that

all they are Muslims we almost limbs doesn't matter about the race it doesn't matter about this so this exists today now this like I'm saying the irony is that it came about after with or with actually the the rise of colonialism as they were going in different places they were doing like on a totally no put a similar thing is like Hinduism so Hinduism it wasn't actually called in division it was called Hinduism by the British so Hindus the way they they just believed in different gods so this village would just believe in a different God that village would believe in different God and they just had tolerance like you just get on with your card they worship Krishna here they worship whatever Hanuman over there they

worship Ganesha over there they worship Rama over there they worship Shiva they worship we should know they just do their wrong things they don't have this and they didn't cool themselves we are Hindu this was actually the British needed to put them together so said oh they are Hindus were called Hinduism and now they call themselves Hindus as well because based on that understanding so in a similar way it happened not exactly the same but in a similar way with Muslims as well now that may be a good thing another thing is that when cloning lists were attacking Islam so Muslim part of the Muslim reaction is to reinforce things they started to come up

with things Muslims did to strengthen the Muslim morale yeah so like one thing was we have a Muslim identity they started to say now here a lot of things came like things like we have a particular way of dress which today we're still suffering from by the way because this was invented at that time to reinforce a message against khakha colonialism we won't speak English we don't speak the language on to this we don't that these kind of but about the Koran as well now about the Quran people start to say look we're not like them our book is not like the Bible the Bible

has been changed the Quran a single letter of it hasn't been changed now you see this is a nice statement but the problem is that this people obviously hammered this out slaw music everywhere the same everywhere the same you could go from Malaysia to Mali to you know parts of China to Mauritania you could go anywhere to Arabia the Quran is the same and people were reinforcing this message against who against the hello list who at that time weren't atheists

they were mainly Christian so they were trying to Christianize they're trying to proselytize convert people to Christianity they were trying to find faults in the Quran fine so the Muslim response was like this now one could say well okay that was fine it served a purpose and it was good the problem is that when that problem went away so clonal ISM has now long gone we are still left with this after this after image of okay the Quran is identical everywhere the problem is now with social media and things we've realized oh well actually it isn't absolutely

identical it's close enough but it's not exactly the same everywhere now the problem is because we've had decades of this being conditioned it's causing cognitive dissonance like we don't know how to handle that whereas if we never had that conditioning you would have just been natural for us we would have just thought oh okay the Quran some parts have been read in different ways now but because we had this other narrative hammered into like four generations into people now when they come across differences it's difficult to handle me so places like indo-pak

have also been very conservative on just their practice like let's say most of them Hanafy now we're gonna pray like this and now anything different is unacceptable it's only in the last two three decades that I suppose the Salafi movements have began the an already they've started to do different things people have then gone out to Haj a lot more people have gone to Hajj realized or other Muslims do things differently you know we're not it's okay to be a bit different but this is a new thing that it's okay to be a bit different so the Quran as well so this is the challenge okay is that the topic it's difficult not because it's difficult per se but

because we've been conditioned no no go for it it can all wait I mean it's on me tell me the topic I mean I mean I but that's not my point my point was saying that look you can the Quran what we know is that when the Quran was revealed it had some fluidity to it we

don't fully understand that today but we know that the Companions ready in slightly different ways now we seem to understand that they must have been some kind of license from the Prophet for them to do that at the time so you have the famous story which everybody you know said now almost heard somebody reading the Quran and he said why are you reading it differently took it to the prophet and the Prophet said really he said yeah that's okay and then he said how do you really said yeah that's ok as well I'm assuming I could be wrong this is just an analogy it's a poor analogy but it's an analogy ok I'm assuming that these differences were

like saying things like how you have American English and British English so the way people the the tribes had their own ways of speaking as well like so the way they will use certain words in American English that we don't use as much or we might use but it's considered slang or we might have a different way of saying it they might have a different way of saying it so these things in a similar way the tribes had their ways of saying things so this tribe might use this word so even if it's little things like in English like the Americans won't say isn't like they don't say isn't do they they say ain't is and I mean ain't

we say ain't as well but that's a slang but they don't have that word like is not they don't contract that do they American English doesn't contract that so things like this are small like whether we read like whilst I mean you can say while as well but in British English you still say whilst amongst but they won't say the t's in the in the American English isn't it like things like these kind of subtleties and other actual words like phrases of that what Americans use more we don't I'm just trying to it's a poor analogy but I'm trying to give you an analogy of understanding that the tribes were like that as well so when the Quran came my understanding was the Prophet

let them recite in what would be natural to them so what now what seems to have happened is after the Prophet some people have started the you know maybe there's there's been some confusion or there's been certain things we know that did happen so hence some of the Companions said look let's narrow this down because we don't want the people getting confused and this leading to debates so rothmeyer of the Ilan came up with a script that you can write in that didn't have the vowels on it so we still allowed certain variations it still allowed a certain way of reading

but it was within a certain script now that narrowed it we call this today the Osmani script okay almost half full as money that is the main foreign that everybody has around the world however certain vowels can be read differently because remember back then they never had vowels they never had the dots written so well so some people is ready how it made sense

that's a good point actually it does sound like him but I'm not so sure if that he would have I know he didn't like people just writing things on the on the must have like you know were the way people write on the Quran and stuff like this he he didn't like any of that stuff the dots by his time were obviously they in that way whatever I mean not the way we had the vowels weren't they like the way we have them today but obviously they it was much more clearer than it was from the earlier time so I don't think he would have objected to that because he would have received it like that already like he

would have grown up with that but I think he you definitely was against like people writing things like you know like people write notes on the Quran sometimes or they write like the meaning of a word or nowadays people write their names things like this he didn't like any of this and to be honest I I totally agree with that sentiment I think people shouldn't I mean I know sometimes people if they're learning the Quran and the Quran like must have might get mixed up so they write their name but otherwise you shouldn't write anything on the

Quran reading surat thani began with miss Stonem [Laughter] if you wrote yeah i mean there is that

but then you know then there's obviously why suam stays we can go with what you say but we can't

help it out this mic slam we

can we appreciate yes of course are the questions just in case you guys can hear is that look I mentioned earlier on about the subtleties within the Arabic language can we today appreciate these subtleties we can but by being told so when we go through to see like some tough sieves are dedicated to these subtleties like you mentioned kashaf of the mercury or some of these stuff seers are dedicated to literary subtleties so they're gonna say oh by the way this lamb yeah is so amazing and it means all these things in processing oh wow well now that you ready you're gonna appreciate it but the question was if nobody told you would you still

appreciate it on that level I don't think we today would appreciate it unless we're being told so when we read the tafseer and it says that oh by the way you know this could have been expressed here in these different ways and this this style was so much better for this reason and then you think oh yeah I see what you're saying but on your own you might appreciate some but I don't think we would comprehensively appreciate the more because they're very to us it will just sound good but this this layers deeper than just good you know this is like wow totally mesmerizing layers but obviously yeah

yeah go for a question from online people does what are the conditions what are the questions what it what is happening with the thing that is in question of being Haram what like legally kick fraud if robbery can you expand on who the hell is forty for free can you expand on what

what does it mean to me not because I'm thinking when you say something to eat something to do something to what would what happens to this thing hey where does it go well as in like will you put it as in my carton is it you eat is that Alright this is getting worse the more I try to justify the sounds worse to the

person's biscuits what the example from the Quran just to

[Music] you see the thing is that you know this certain words okay I'll tell you I'll come back to I'll come back but this certain okay briefly then we'll then we'll come to the Haram how does an act become Haram okay well it's when you enact if you have to be careful when in acting right so the the question about this you see it's how you know the script the Osmani script can be written in certain

ways that it can allows for you to read it in certain ways so so for example the word zakat or salat in the Koran is written like it'll be like sod lamb there'll be a Wow you've probably seen it yeah and it is a WoW and at are now generally when you write some are in Arabic you don't write a while you just write sort lamb a lift now you you'll have a while in the in the Quran now things like a leaf in the Quran like this a lot of ellipse weren't in the script they were just add it as a

stretch like so it we just soared lamb Wow now an example is if that tire today is more clearer because we're writing as at a more buta like this round tower with two dots but if it was just written like tar and not so clear is this Sawa like one a leaf or are they two olives and if this summer what plural is it zakah mizuka wat see like this it's sometimes in the past like I said the way they ready there were different ways of and they've some of them did read it as

plural and some of them ready most of them didn't read it as plural so that's how but the plurals are not massively different it's not like you know like all like in English you're gonna say I don't know like Mouse and mice now the word just looks totally different it's not like that it's like with a subtlety I suppose in English as well by just adding an S on many words they become plural so it's like that the script allowed for that maneuverability that make sense up some idea

would we trace it back Bobby see now this is the thing that I'm saying that you see the Quran in the time of the Prophet what we understand was much more fluid then today so hence the Prophet allowed people to read in certain ways that were more natural to them so some people may have used certain things like some people may just in their dialect have used plurals more often some people may not have used as many plurals in their dialect so remember this is like a style of speaking

then it got constricted but what we are on today was one of the readings in the time of the Prophet this was one of the way perhaps a very popular way that would the Quran was being read but in the prophet's lifetime maybe some companions were reading it most likely in other ways in line with their dialect okay so does that make sense

finally so what Britain is for wasting you've got someone that will be stiffened I know on you know I mean how

do you how do we have different dialects well my oldest friend Tata [Laughter] the Arab tribes there were loads of them and they spoke different dialects they weren't like all living around each other where are you getting that from our Arabia is massive if you look at Arabia even today on the map no so you get many of the tribes you're talking about even he just had so many different tribes in it but if you're gonna even if when you're going through the grammar books you'll see like for example Thai

you'll see who they you'll see these different tribes and a lot of the readings according to them so the way we say like a Lavina like who they lord over they'll a laguna they won't say a Lavina they say laguna but that's how they spoke arabic you see and some of the tribes wouldn't make certain things month sueb they wouldn't like there were so many tribes man you hear about them all the time the Prophet was from the tribe garage which resided around Makkah pretty much crow HD though many tribes I mean in Medina they were not there were no crash it was her age it was Oz there were other tribes surrounding the Jewish

tribes around Medina in each city you had different people had their own style of speaking their own you know different so it wasn't it was a huge place it was still I mean by the way still is a huge place you just look at him at the map so yes so they weren't just all living around like just ten of them and one of them goes but my way of speaking is

different the jinn yeah no I think that you see you got to you know I think the ancient Arabs right they had this thing the question is that when one of the

main chief Chiefs of Quraysh one of the main antagonists against the Prophet will lead over the Madeira when he no sorry it was I'm saying it is that is his name in anyway yeah so I'm just just went blank for a moment then yeah so yeah so we'll lead when he criticized the prophet and he said well I know Arabic but he praises the Quran he says what in allahu la Halawa in LA he loved allah wa innahu lai-lay loo-li your allah and he says that i've he praises the Quran says that I've not heard anything like this this is amazing but the point is that he they

say to him come on man you're such a Don of Quraish if you don't criticize the Quran when the Prophet Muhammad then what will people say so then he says ok he says this isn't poetry because I know all of poetry and this isn't this then he says maybe this is magic I know let's say her own Yasir in now Allah Bashar you know this in the Quran is paraphrasing him so the question is that I remember him they saying that he heard the jinn or whatever but the the ancient Arabs did have this belief that that sometimes these beings in the unseen

that speak to them so you have some ancient pre-islamic poetry based on jinn speak so they don't call it gym they used to call it actually they call it what today we call a mobile phone so they had a word called hat if hat it means a voice without a presence so like you hear a voice but there's nobody here so in ancient Arabic they call that hat if so today they just call the phone hat if right so that's why a phone is called hat if in Arabic but in the past you'll

hear them speaking about the hadith or they'll say that this hat if told me this poem and I think this was just the hallucinations and things like this and that's what I think what is it that ayahuasca what was it I think just a lot of DMT DMT that's all it was yeah go for it question online people does touching the private parts invalidate the word or whose private parts are they touching I think you're invalidate a lot more than

with all what well ok since it's not just the question gone the people serious question Oh serious Oh the persons waiting miss saliz been waiting he's the Imam he's like if I get this on so I can finally lead this prayer well right so touching the private parts [Laughter] right once again depends on the angle of

touch not that parts of like the night so the general understanding that I would say is how the Maliki a the school of Medina teaches that if generally touching doesn't break the wood all right but if you're touching with desire if you get carried away one gets carried away then it breaks the door and I think that's a balanced approach so you get on one hand the Hanafy method which says it doesn't break them will do no matter

what so someone could be indulging in in me time actually that's a good point yes it would it would apply without pleasure no it would apply I think according to the Hanafi method under all circumstances even if it's somebody else's like just walking in the marketplace hands just like oh there goes you do

see how many will dues I can break today so I think it could eat it so according to the Hanafy method it doesn't break at all categorically and according to the Shafi method it breaks categorically all the times it's just a sink oh that person with the towel up Oh just touch up there goes my will do so the would always like highly volatile on the Schaffer yeah and on the Hanafy end it's like unbreakable it's

like nuclear resistant like ah I don't know I'll show you right so and the Maliki are like in the middle on this particular position and they see that look it doesn't generally and there is a debate within the Maliki as well but the general understanding that a lot of the Iraqi Maliki's and and that's the one that I generally teach is that so long as it's not with desire it's okay so if a person wasn't just pleasing himself or herself I suppose her weekender nowadays

2019 after itself sorry or themselves referred to refer to them as days and it the transsexual isn't it they okay who's the expert in the room so so long as it is they're not self gratifying then it doesn't matter the wood was fine but okay yeah go for it so that's yep so now you can get back

to the important things right yep that's a good question and I am inclined to that understood so the question let me repeat the question sorry new you guys probably can't hear it here that Abraham ELISA Lam no sorry you to my loot ELISA lemon o Abraham right okay yes so Abraham Alice and I'm I'm loot aleihsalaam they receive guests in in

the story in the Quran so for you have Ibrahim Ali Salam presents some food for them some meat and they don't take it and then he thinks oh my god is this because usually if somebody came with a bad intention they wouldn't eat your food and stuff like if they came to harm you so when he gives them food and they and they abstain so he thinks oh what's this about so then they tell him you know latter half don't worry you know we've been sent and this is they give him a method in the given glad-tidings now I'm not so sure about that particular

incident if this was a if so there's that incident and then there's the incident of loot alley Salaam where the Prophet loot has some guests and when they come the people the homosexual they actually bisexual but they homosexual strongly homosexual so they are like oh my god we definitely need those those guys that have come to loot ELISA Lam's house so they so they can't control themselves the control me or I control so they trying to you know force entry into not

the best of terms but they're trying to force entry into the house ask about to say and they trying to you know take these people by force now could it be that those people weren't angels they were just people not not the town people obviously that would be silly them being angels but the guests of loot ELISA no so I think to that I'm quite inclined that they may have most likely just being people not angels but they may have just been referred to in that sense that they had a message or to deliver to loot al-islam and that was hence part of

because that was what the kind of it was enough then because they they want to obviously take these people by force and stuff like this so with Ibrahim Ali Salaam it's possible that it may have just been a normal person if it was a normal person then people would have seen him as well if he was an angel let's just say then this is something which normal people wouldn't see it's just Ibrahim Allison I'm seeing this almost like a vision like that so although he's seeing it as real other people around him wouldn't see those things so the story of ibrahim alaih-is-salaam and people coming to his

house I think and just giving him the glad tiding about he'll have a child I think this could be either way yeah I think that could well you know if that wasn't angel and he was seeing that other people can't see that there's no problem with that but loot alley Salaam I think were actually people I'm inclined to that understanding although many people feel that they were people apparently but deep down there were angels this is what a lot of people think but we don't really know about the past all these stories that come to us of the people of the past they're not reliable we just have like just snapshots in the Quran the Quran never

goes into so much detail so it just gives like a brief snapshot like okay this incident when it happened they seemed it doesn't give you that much detail so you're not exactly sure what what the facts were yeah now she laughs at the you know what is it at the glad tiding but I mean if she was part of that I'm just saying if the if it was something that she was part of it does say that she for the hiccups and but there is the thing you

know which they say I you know is it attached I mean I mean I'm real I do you find you know did are you being surprised from what God is capable of because the point is she was so old and presumably she felt she was beyond the men of so how would she have a child but she wasn't and she did have a child so that was the the kind of the miracle side of it that she didn't have a child from Abraham and but if that was see once again because we know so little about the actual scenario we just know like

just glimpses so when it's saying that she laughed did she laugh because she directly heard this or she heard Abraham telling her that he heard this and she laughed or did she like these things are not really clear in the Quran isn't trying to make you know the full details of the story it's just giving you quick glimpses that's all a lot I mean a begum situation all right okay the question if

you didn't hear it people was front one from my child you doing it you're doing it right was from much about Shamima Begum do we think this will set a precedent for people to have their citizenship revoked even if they're within the UK his British citizenship yeah but has he tried to come here he said he wants to come back he's given to me I

thought he was no Canadian see when you say having I think I could be wrong but I think as a case emerges they then take action isn't it so I think the Shamima beggin her case emerged it hit the spotlight then they took action that said I have read that the Home Office have revoked citizenships and although prior to I think 2016 they had revoked a few and between 2016 and 17 they revoked

like over a hundred and it is a scary thing I think with the Shamima begum case looking into it with more detail because I have given my response already it's on YouTube as well where I said she can just go to hell but I but looking into it with a bit more detail I do agree that it is it is a scary kind of thing that they're trying to say well we can revoke because it's transpired that she didn't because at the time the home office had said that she was a dual national most likely

now it transpires that she's not she's only British it has only ever been British and only born in Britain under these circumstances should is she you know entitled to then come back because she's not from anywhere else I think that does strengthen her case and I think the problem is that the British there were a few problems this is what I think the British government did right so this is my analysis this is what I think I think that she probably will come back I could be wrong but I think

she probably will and I think the British government what they want her to do was they probably thought by bringing her back it's going to which it would have he would have evoked such a an outcry by the far right and it would have had such a reaction and it would have there would have been a lot of racial tension within the country Islamophobia would have been on the rise there would have been all this kind of heat which was unwarranted and unnecessary so I think what they did is they thought let's revoke her nationality or citizenship knowing knowing that she doesn't have any other citizenship but they said they probably

thought let's do it pretend we don't know she'll appeal like that will now appease the British crowd because everybody will think well fine they did the good look wow what a harsh response which I personally think that she doesn't deserve sympathy now so everybody's calm she will appeal and she'll probably and she'll come back and they'll just arrest her so that way there's no outcry let people know well they did their best and she appealed and she won the case so it's kind of like a win-win scenario and if they use like Sajid Javid to do it brown face it's it's kind of it's like an all-round win isn't it a win win win

win win so I think they played it gamerchick Haley it's like they played the politics I think pretty well but I I do see I don't think that they could just declare people within the UK stateless because you're already within the you know yes and I think they've already done that as well on a few occasions and it is quite scary that the problem they've got is that they don't have laws against reason that are so strong so what they ought to have done I think what they ought to have done now looking at the case is arrest her and

then update the laws to allow to punish her for treason the problem is treason doesn't here doesn't really pretty much exist as I mean in the past I suppose they should execute them but now obviously they're not gonna execute obviously so what do they do and they're thinking well if she comes back she goes in for a few years and she's out in about three full years and they're thinking well that isn't that's gonna cause such a reaction with the public public is gonna get vexed so it's not worth it and they've gotten it right that it is going to cause a huge reaction so they need to either increase

the laws well do something now she's an adult although she did go as she left that 15 but she's now an adult I think to be fair that the problem with this whole case there's many problems with obviously one the fact that she went off and she joined Isis and did all these things and you gotta remember as well that look I said this on my video as well that look we when we see her we see

a brown face agent kill if she's a white like a white convert to Islam yeah but then no no but they couldn't have revoked a white convert because I think because she would have no other nation to lean in on and here they were assuming that they pretended that she had Bangladeshi nationality so the question is that look we are seeing a brown face we're seeing a Muslim girl quite young in hijab and it's evoke sympathy in us because obviously how

often do we see you know like we see so often that like Muslim girl is being picked on discriminated against Islamophobia on the rise racism and these kind of things are still there very strongly still present in the UK so we have sympathy but my point was to say that look that sympathy element shouldn't be you have to remember she went there to be part of a machine that was killing primarily Muslims okay that that was their function they were there to to them all Muslims in the

world are kaffir and they work that's what they were doing daily they were butchering Muslims and she went in knowing what they were she wanted to be a part of that glory State - and if Isis today was still standing she would never come back so you have to remember that she went on she never went on like hey I'm going to Las Vegas to chill out like this she went some way to really kill people so from an Islamic perspective there is no faith sympathy these people are enemies of Islam and enemies of Allah and His Messenger and

the enemies of humanity and compassion however I acknowledge that there is a legal argument that she when she went she was not an adult so can they that does stand and I said that knowledge that as a legal argument the question was bringing her back he's gonna cause such a backlash against regular Muslims because the far-right are gonna be like what spending our money on bloody terrorists and and then your average you know average kind of Muslim woman out there is gonna end up getting attacked and so is it really worth it so my point was why should we be like this is why I

totally was not supportive at all of her coming back who went on a bloodthirsty mission to kill Muslims she comes back and then Muslims get attacked because of her like oh well that doesn't make any sense so but I do acknowledge the legal argument I do acknowledge that ok cool people those of you that say I can't do serious talk there is people so all right what what are some real questions bother me

[Laughter] refuses to intimacy yes right and what about the her citizenship should be revoked and she should be declared stateless you see that the thing is this hadith is actually a false Aviv and on YouTube I've got a whole clip where I go through the Senate the chain and I demonstrate the weakness in the chain of

this hadith it is unreliable and it's not like the Prophet to ever speak like that the Prophet would never use religious blackmail because it doesn't make any sense this hadith most likely emerged as first of all like a cultural axiom like people in a patriarchal society probably had this understanding and then somebody along the way just slapped on you know Carla Rasul Allah that's the Messenger of Allah said and that's what most likely happened with it this thing that because the hadith I go through a detail you can find it it's on YouTube it's called marital rape is

Haram in Islam and I have a description of including religious blackmail so I've said that look you can in Islam sorry in a relationship if a couple are not having sex generally I mean if the I mean if they're having hardly any oil then that relationship has a problem anyway presumably especially unless that's they both very asexual then then I suppose it works but if it isn't like that then that relationship has a problem because

it's not very natural so either they're having sex somewhere else and the natural conclusion or they're withholding it from each other which is like a tool weaponizing weaponizing sound so lethal weapon' izing sex to kind of get back at each other so I think this then that which means the relationships kind of messed up anyway you understand now people shouldn't be doing things like that because if they are that relationship isn't going to last in a healthy way for very long I mean it might last but it's gonna be a

very toxic relationship if you don't like the person you're with and if life is that unbearable like you don't want to be in an intimate relationship with them I'll seriously advise leave the relationship don't like be in a toxic relationship if you don't like and you can't bear the other person because you're only making yourself suffer but if that be the case what I was saying is you can resolve these two other measures because if you're in a relationship already then you know you have a kind of understanding you know each other I'm sure there's things that annoy you about each other but these things that you probably like about each other these things so you know this there's many

ways to to kind of be intimate to kind of get on that level like chloroform not sorry like each other how many people have this party don't worry go with somebody else in the bottom he said what if the parties are on for it one of the parties and on for it so the headache isn't doesn't panadol extra work anymore

as a neuro friend like extra effective action for quick yes/no so I've said look there is no Islamic obligation it doesn't work like that and it's true that people won't always be up for it not all the time and I'm sure that's you know across the genders it doesn't but if people are withholding this generally like they're withholding sex from the other person on purpose they kind of you know using that as a weapon or to kind of like get back then I think that relationship is in a law in troubled

waters already really and so they need to think about that relationship they want to be in this relationship however if you do want to like let's say have intimacy and you want to kind of fit and I'm sure there's many ways that people who know their relationship best could could try and you know get to it but religious blackmail isn't the way he's not one of those ways so to say well huh you know Eve like to say well oh well if you don't God's gonna be upset angels are like does he does he refer to his

thing as God or what what's God here like how what has God got to do with with this what has God got to do with his you know God's gonna be upset God ain't gonna be upset God's got nothing to do with your sex life so I think if people are using that that is I've said that that is Haram to use religion to blackmail people into having sex for God's sake that's like so petty and soul but if the look if if a couple are doing this to each other that they like they're not being very interested own Tuan tube then they need to question the

relationship anyway but as to regular like sometimes somebody like you're saying they're not up for it whether it's the guy or the girl maybe they're not offer it maybe maybe you can wait an hour no they should be understanding right they should be understanding like they shouldn't be like you know if people ain't up for it then ain't up for it but my point is if these are prolonged periods of time and and it's a sense of withholding and their sense of then you need to question this whole nature of relationship but obviously if you having these parties that you're

talking about right so okay right okay can shia hadith be followed I think the that's an interesting one because maybe some of their chains according to Sunni sources are okay and some of them may not be the problem is that you know when you get into all this sectarian thing that the schools have kind of written off each other so the Sunni schools have written off the Shia School in Italian and vice-versa as well

so it's difficult getting chains endorsed what I would do is look at the content rather than the chain and the content so long as it meets the three thing it doesn't clash with reason doesn't go against the Quran doesn't approve Islamic principles then I would say you know it can in that sense be followed if it meets up to that criteria but it's difficult finding the chain I think with with from the Shia tradition because so many sources would have written off most of the the Shia scholars maybe not all but I love them I think they would have just signed them off anyway like we don't accept them so

it's difficult getting that approved through that route with most maybe not all right look at that man the topics from sectarianism to know that's a weak there's no such thing there's no such thing this this incident is actually very weak I believe if you bring it up I

remember at the time of the blasphemy case of hacia be be looking into these it's utterly unreliable totally unreliable that the person killed his wife and there's another famous story as well about some woman called Ozma that was insulting the Prophet and they killed her once again totally fabricated there's no reliability to these things yeah I think has it whoa okay there was actually a message I did want to say somebody had put on there I thought it was an important thing and more on a serious note that was about knife crime so somebody said that look could you

mentioned something about this and it is quite shocking that the level of rise in things like knife crime within the UK in the recent years and now within Birmingham that we're seeing this this is shockingly rising I think this is an and what's really shocking I mean I think it's shocking disturbing horrifying no matter who it's happening from and with but it seems to be rising within Birmingham amongst the Muslim community I don't know whether it's gang retaliations

I don't know whether it's just turf kind of wars or whatever is but you see all these kind of clips going around people young people generally stabbing each other and I saw this clip the about a week ago some person sitting outside some kind of CAF cafe or restaurant and just bleeding away and people walking past and I think that this is if we become a people that just become okay with things like this then we have lost all purpose you understand that this we cannot take more seriously anything than the concept

of life the sanctity of life in Islam is paramount and okay within the mikasa to Sharia are the first and foremost thing you have is Al Hayat the enough Allah says in the Quran that one man khattala whosoever kills a nurse for Kangnam a shuttle and NASA Jami on it is as though he has killed humanity as a whole like meaning to Allah now it makes no difference like that is the enormity of the crime in a hadith and this you know

this Paula one of the famous Maliki scholars he begins his book up to the Itoro sulla that let me put together a book on the judgments that the Prophet gave himself that he ruled his basically case studies of the Prophet and he begins with the hadith that the first thing that Allah will take to task on the day of judgment is the blood that has been drawn by people like murder that this is the first and most gravest of crimes that will be taken to task on the day of judgment and he begins his

book with that Allah mentioned in the Quran that whosoever amantha tell that whosoever kills Motorama me then that alloy excludes if it was an accident and unfortunately tragedies happen whosoever does this intentionally for Jessa you Jahannam Haledon that forever the person is deserving of eternal damnation regardless of him being a Muslim so we seem to have this thing that oh if we're Muslims you know man call Allah Allah hail of law that's not what the Quran says and I

think it's it's really you know people who are in touch with younger people especially that this thing has to be stressed as much as it possibly can I mean crime as a whole but the sanctity of life is something that can never go undermined this whole I tell you this whole Deen is meaningless if there is no sanctity to life so I think that's something that you know has to be reinforced reinforced and put out there

Charla Baraka law become people I think will leave the the life it's been going on for a while people take very good care of yourselves Salaam o aleikum or a little lighter Allah or better cattle is people there's some of the the deviants eating right yeah you've caught them now