Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 137

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no what's going on what's going on there I am alright people are momento watch together with friends or with a group whoa what is that about yeah corn some they are Netflix and chill option should I don't know whether I should click that should I shouldn't I well how does that work let's just share it

come on there you go in Al hamdulillah wa kafa or salat wa salam o a lot of so little Mustafa well I ready live in October woman be hotel master or be a sari medina table add facile my a little poem aloo masala become o marhaban running light bienvenidos a todos Pajaro Valley whoo Shama deed people and swagatam swagatam I'm just waiting for this - why is that what is going on

que pasa oh is this thing it's sharing it but it's it's what is this what this conspiracy you know this conspiracy so my Center what's going on what's going on I'm well alight hum damn well I'm just trying to see if I can if that has successfully been shared or not this is a conspiracy against me folks let's see let's see oh it's been shed you Facebook teasing

me what is going on what him walk what him rather interesting name what him says love us but swallows what's Claire Jones a mad Muslim man a long silent become a marhaban look at this Muslim man we have Muslim man online today

ha and how can we help you sir I I am Muslim man you know Muslim man that just sounds so it's like what is about to happen here what I'm saying my parents butchered my name well team they definitely did they just made up the name they just go huh what should we

call him you know should we go with the traditional name that exists I don't know names Abdul Rahman there we go with Mohammed should we go with the slicker name like I don't know something Salim Samir I don't know they're trying to Waseem they go on ah forget it just make one up welcome we're gonna whack them anyway so what you know that's an interesting

discussion folks people need to pay attention to the names that they choose for their children I mean having a name like like let's say having a name like anis in in the West spelt anus I've actually seen that I'm not I'm not making this up people you know I fast me so bah-bah-bah have I ever lied before that I would like today

this is least I've seen the name anus I thought what anus idea what is this they've had the name seriously now why are you totally why are you setting that person up for what is this like a kind of euthanasia longitudinal assisted suicide Amos I mean you've got the you've got the Arabic name are us

I mean with all due respect you do not want to name your child living in the West us because they're gonna go like us I mean they're not gonna say with a name let's be real people they're not going to go oh they're gonna just say us like what kind of Oh and then you give them the first name [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] what

rather this is this is why we need to think these things through we need to kind of like focus yeah you know the problem is nobody reads the Quran it says a fella taught a room use the Apple you know this one this odd you say mister [ __ ] mister [ __ ]

[ __ ] ass no these are not nice you know this on big problem so so bottle bottle bar people need to think these things through people they need to kind of focus okay so yeah I was in Pakistan once and I mean I was in Pakistan for a period of time but this one time I came across somebody in a village and his

name was muck tool which meant murdered what I thought maybe his name is mole or something and I've misheard it so I said this is my bully said no no muck tool I thought what were they hinting something was this was it a threat when you're born

and time at all anyway right let's take some let's see what the folks are saying how's your discussion with video made you rethink your ideas or was it a bad day in the office [Music] [Laughter] hi my discussion with Vida vids was really good I thought I enjoyed the discussion I think though if I'm gonna

be honest I think that's it's a good point to begin tonight's session evaluating some of that discussion I think as an observation I'd like to make an observation yeah you're observing you know I do observe you know so the observation people is that you see the problem with I think atheism a problem sorry let me rephrase that a problem

with atheism ex-muslims Inc included in that is that you see they ironically have substituted Dogma for Dogma but that I find many of many people and I find this with people in general regardless of people of religion or the lack thereof that they are people of Dogma they're not very they're not a very philosophical people that I find

this unfortunately who with most people and X Muslims or atheists in general aren't much different just because they've thought about religion which I applaud them for and they've been critical towards religion and I applaud them for that but it's a it's naive to assume that they are very well balanced necessarily in this in their analysis so now discussing for example in that discussion with wigs the

fact that there was this this failure to recognize to even just recognize this that when you say truth you do understand that there is an arbitrary as an arbitrary parameter to what you're saying now the fact that that wouldn't even resonate to me just showed like a sense of dogma you see because first of all I discussed in that I said just

coming to that discussion with v2 vids I mentioned that when you say things like do you believe Islam is true now sorry he said like do you believe yes he said I believe that was the question it may have been worded slightly different but do you believe this to be true and I said well you see it's interesting because what does that mean truth because do I believe it to be true I do believe it to be true now how are you and where does that question girl because you can only assess something

the truth a truth claim can only make sense if it can be assessed and how do you assess something like this this isn't a maths test that you can assess it what is it and they said no well actually you can assess religion and I said well how how would you assess religion because you can assess it through historicity and the overwhelming evidence does demonstrate that the Prophet Muhammad did exist okay I mean that's something you could assess

possibly through archeology and sociological historical kind of findings okay so you put that aside what are we saying now what what next I mean how do you assess something you see and and the failure to accept this or to even recognize these and then we had this discussion on you see they said well does it correlate to because there's many things in the Quran that don't correlate with our sense of reality right now and I said that's true but your how are you reading the Quran are

you reading it as just prose because would you read poetry in the same way would you say poetry is not true does that does that and and the person said well and I and I said things like would you read art as not being true because you see it's a non meaningful statement it doesn't mean much in that context those contexts are not assessed by the term true yes I mean in some sense they could be you could have a complete mythology so for example somebody could

say well there was a religion that began 20 years ago and you say well actually historically we can't ascertain this so okay so there's a claim of historicity or the person could say something absolutely categorically incorrect let's say let's say they said in mathematically the the religion said oh one and one equals four and we don't mean we mean this literally and you say well that doesn't add up okay fine or they make claims of science all of assessment that you assess but when religions don't speak about things

like that so whenever religion speaks about the soul this is not I mean to date this is not an assessable statement you could say well I accept it or reject it but to say that's not true is actually quite dogmatic and our because how do you assess truth on something that is unattainable inaccessible as we stand so because the soul could just mean consciousness I mean it could mean consciousness or it could mean something else according to other people but my point is if you're gonna say well the religion is speaking

of an afterlife well an afterlife as of our standpoint is inaccessible so how can you claim how can you put a truth claim to it I mean you could say I believe in it or I don't believe in it that's fine but you can't measure it and then we spoke about things like you see I mentioned things like idealism to highlight to them that look our measurements in and of themselves are very limited and we have to at least be honest and I mentioned things like you know could you even and we got onto this

thing about sound and music and and I was actually quite surprised that this you know it was a basic thing of really physics and and science but it wasn't being acknowledged in that dialogue that sound isn't actually it doesn't have a reality the way it's just how we're interpreting vibrations it's not it does not have an objective reality so the fact that this statement of mine is being is very difficult to digest shows

either ignorance in with science or it just shows a kind of very rigid dogma because once you see this world truly speaking if we're objectively speaking is colorless its soundless it doesn't have sound it's a paid it's you know the world is nothing like what we are perceiving it to me if we are speaking from a position of external objectivity so let's just be honest I mean that's the world is not how any of see so I mentioned that you see and you

wouldn't expect God like let's say if God if you do accept the transcendent you wouldn't expect God to address the world how it truly is because in its true objectivity we can't relate to it it would it would be meaningless for us because we would think it's absurd but it's actually the truth so yes I mean so I think that was important to address that because but I do find if I be

honest and I love honesty not look at I'm sitting you know I just don't be a hypocrite this is I can be many things but not a hypocrite this this won't be problem I find that that many X Muslims they to have now become tribalistic with this new identity of X Muslims and the truth is that they have become not at

this stage but this is the beginning of a new Frankenstein you know it's like how Nietzsche said that beware when you fight monsters lest you shall become a monster and I fear that this is the beginning of the very thing they set out to combat and that was dogma so that's the that's the my perspective that said I do accept that religion you'll

probably get you know if I suppose atheists compared to people who follow religion or a you know it's this proportion of ratio because the majority of the world follows some kind of religion so it can't be accurately assess but if if you were to take a random kind of pick your atheist will definitely be somebody who is at least more analytic towards religion and philosophy then your common religious

person because that's true that religion unquestionably institutionalized religion definitely pushes dogma I mean it doesn't just resulting dogma it pushes dog my pedals dogma so by that's it's bread and butter dogma although atheists are meant to be people very antithetical to dogma I fear that they too will just end up with another version an alternate version of dogma on that note I would like to somebody polyp had actually asked me I'm not sure if

he's tuned in but right somebody's asked about veganism I'll I'll come to that in a moment you see Polly but asked a question about what I'd said in my discussion with video vids about meaning and just if I could elaborate on that slightly you see what I was saying is that for two atheists if everything is simply the

coherence of randomized matter and phenomenon and that's all it is so randomized phenomenon has simply coherent lis merged and fused together then meaning has no meaning you understand everything collapses and I I this is my assessment as a as somebody who does have faith I fear that you see we began by saying look religion doesn't

make sense so I will seek the truth and the truth is something which ought to make sense but if the truth in the end is nothing there is just nothingness which is means there is no meaning to anything you see the answer to absurdity cannot just be the absence of an answer that is not a an answer that that's just that there is nothing but the fact that we are trying to seek meaning and see

trees to me demonstrates that they must be meaning hence we can seek it and find it and this is the argument that we call the intelligibility of being itself being with a capital B here that the intelligibility of being demonstrates that meaning must carry value in what they must be meaning in stuff you understand so I don't know if you guys if that makes any sense to you or if you know I don't know my pre-workout drink

is just still running but nevertheless I I hope that makes some sense that you see when people problematize religion they are looking for the truth meaning that which is equates to equals they must be something meaningful that adds up if that result is simply that there is nothing that there is no answer that there is it's all random then the concept of meaning itself becomes random

and dropped that there is no meaning the meaning in and of itself becomes redundant so it turns back on itself I don't know if you guys can understand this yeah Yumiko is yeah-eh yeah-eh poor Giri cheezle Oh am I just on a level of my own am I just a expert master level yet anyway what is going on people what is Osama you doing it you do need not see

if anybody's guys admin if anybody is trolling you know what to do Mach and block that's it right I was asked a question I said I'll get back to what was it on why God allowed it saying God allowed it doesn't I don't know what that's about plants suffer too recent studies show plants are a way that they are being eaten me should we

become vegan is this the question should we become vegan he's not the question I'm not sure what the question was if the question was should we become vegan hmm you see I don't necessarily believe that we should become vegan you know as the poem says that bull sharks achar Liga saw bill keep up bill key bought these soft candy you know that it the person looked good it was a matter of

the heart so I said it straight hum say munafa cat horny she's difficult being a hypocrite the problem is that you've got to see when it comes to these things I eat meat I can never us do I feel that it is wrong to eat meat I don't feel it is wrong to eat me Oh [Music] [Laughter]

because look because the way the world has been created it's the thus decreed nature that the animals will just eat each other's up hum cornea how can we disrupt the flow of nature it's yep our impera is coming this this tradition is coming since evolution now it's not befitting for us to disrupt this tradition so we need to kind of

just go with talk into that burger I you know I I had a discussion with uh I don't know whether is a vegetarian or a vegan at one point and and I said well you see if you say that we should we should eat meat because of suffering then I ask you should we proactively prevent animals from getting eaten by

other animals ah now this one's stuck you know this uh this one big problem [Laughter] should i starve the wolves starve the Tigers and the Lions oh so so the thing is that you see you kind of get stuck so

I say look don't worry because look I understand there's this thing of they say suffering and I don't have an answer to that but I also recognize that there is no way out of this you see you can't you can't prevent nature from eating other animals eating other parts of nature its nature and even if you could prevent it if you try to prevent it you would just ruin

the entire ecology you just ruin everything and you would get out of control you couldn't because you see you would either harm the carnivores by starving them now you could say that we would supply imagine we could imagine we could generate enough artificial meat to feed all the carnival's on earth the Earth's balance would actually I mean the ecological balance would actually be I think catastrophic I think you couldn't just it would just result in

over population of certain creatures and because there's a balance in the kind of pecking order of things an evolution has evolved in that way so you see if you because it's a it's it's a thought experiment that imagine we could produce enough artificial meat to feed all the carnivores on earth would that be a wise thing to do let's us say as a thought experiment I think we the whole thing would go it'd go crazy I think you'd actually miss you'd mess

the entire ecological system up because it works on a certain way that for nature to operate for animals to thrive they need to have the survival instinct you see if the survival instinct is not in play it would actually destroy because animals are not they're not our car I mean they are on a conscious spectrum but they're not conscious like us kind of sitting now thinking hey what should I do next week they don't work in that way and if you don't believe me you should check out the the great the mice

utopian experiment that I spoke about previously you see that that was a very fascinating experience where a person tried to create a paradise for as you know a researcher tried to in an experiment try to create a utopia for mice and I think he began with eight mice and and he had plenty of capacity plenty of provisions food he had water if things were always renewed fresh I think there were eight mice to kind of mate and copulate and reproduce Annie

and it worked amazingly in the beginning because the mice were just like wow this is awesome awry and they're reproducing and reproducing and reproducing but when it reached a certain number you see the results were shocking you should read into it because the results showed that the mice they complete their behavior became absolutely abnormal there was a certain amount of mice they would refuse to the mice stopped mating they weren't interested in mating anymore the mothers

would refuse to take care of the young the maternal instinct began to die it began like the whole thing is really fascinating and they start to die off it was really weird but and part of it was that they they lost the the the kind of the drive to survive the willpower to survive because animals don't work the way the same way humans work they are

driven by that instinct to survive and if they don't have an environment that tests that instinct after a while I mean it may be funny in the early for the early first generation let's say but as they start to grow up and reproduce and reproduce it results in complete debilitation of these pieces cool with that let's move on to some other questions people what is going on what is going on right I will be

speaking about chef Yasir Qadhi later on in my masala segment share Yasir Qadhi and his recent drama with with the huge image and in his podcast with a where he's really just speaking about me at one point and the other person mentions me by name and then they just take this they start to kind of take digs at the

irony the irony is that before share here cerca de is doing the very thing he's condemning in that discussion this is the problem this is the utter problem you see the religion you know it says some some this certain people have said certain philosophers recent of our recent times have said that you see religion organized religion institutionalized religion applied just

results in hypocrisy it only makes hypocrites because that's the nature of institutionalized religion and you can see that in the you know in in in the phenomenon of share sir how the right now in his scandal so I'll come to that a bit later on I will drop a bit of missile on me so but till then what's going on people

right what is going on folks what is going on let's take a look at some questions uh right I've answered that right there was a question to explain idealism and I suppose I should have explained it when I was explaining the the discussion with the X Muslims but idealism like why do froggy froggy said why do women blur the images on much much it's good to know that that the OMA

is kept awake with real problems pressing issues people why do women blur the images on was much now we've all gotta open a much much account just to see what proudly probably is saying maybe that blurring is is a blessing for you otherwise yeah so maybe that's how

they're seeing you on the screen all blurred and then you actually come through so right what is going on what is most macho so it's much much the one people is that the one is that where it's all happening is this gotta keep up with the day made you see I don't I feel kind of left out here for hon Mia is

asking for the second time what is the I shall decreed and how does it differ from the earth I see that there are people for hon Mia Mia sob right here is concerned about al-qaeda whilst you you you embarrassment to humanity are worried about must match and blurred faces and getting up to all this hanky-panky here we have a brother a brother who's concerned about his faith

he's like well what is the difference it's like women blur this I couldn't care less me I saw over here he's saying I don't care if women blare their faces I need to know what is the Act either of the a shoddy school the doctrine and the doctrine of the humblest oc4 hun you need to be on most match this is a real guy right here all the women looking for real men for

they say we rather we are the decent guys gone up yeah the decent guys they are all too busy discussing why are the faces I mean sorry that's the indecent the decent ones are discussing why is the a shoddiest leader and humbly I see the walls what's going on here Oh Lord lord have mercy have mercy on this Ummah

so right this is a this one neck brother this one Pius II no fires I mean stand let me fold my arms whilst I respond to him right okay let's answer the question for the brother he's suffering the anxiety is getting to him brothers being kept up late at night pondering over the doctrinal differences between these two theological

this is keeping him up whilst you other losers are being kept up by god knows what kind of forums and websites [Laughter] alright so me Asahi you see this the difference the the kind of primal difference between these two is the earth theory which is today a euphemism a thirty is a euphemism for the humbly school of up either which is basically an anthropomorphic the School

of Theology doctrine which in essence if I'm to sum that up for you again Let Me In in snob speak let me dumb this down for you guys [Laughter] imagine as a professor with a serious face this is how you say you say alright guys let me dumb this down for you I would love to try that a lecture I just go mmm right so yes so the doctrinal difference is between these two theological schools

let me dumb this down for you guys this our guard body parts this are no body parts so the humbly school believes God has they believe God has body parts okay so I'm gonna be honest with you it's totally stupid it's it's for the what I call the Sun sunshine group it's for the

bottom set basically you know in school you have differentiation and you have the bottom sets the Thetas coloring and draw pictures all day the sticker so the humbly school in at either D is basically that sunshine group and then you've got the Hadees I don't think the I sure if I'm gonna be fair there Shari's I don't think they're 100% spot on but they're definitely much better

than that group the humbly school the the humbly sorry the uh Shari's are probably like in the middle I would say like maybe like set three set to possibly some of them but the gifted and talented the top in my perspective were the Philosopher's they were in a class of their own so none of the theologians I think could match the Philosopher's because the theologians were always

constrained by they had too many fake parameters that they were trying to match so the ashati is generally speaking will be odd or more definitely make sense I would say probably 95% sense or 90% sense they definitely if I was to be if I was to join one of the groups are definitely joined the a shoddy group in that sense broadly speaking I would align myself with a shoddy even though I would disagree on certain things that they say but my point is I would broadly speaking align myself with that group as opposed to the

other sunshine group that believe in God having body parts because when they believe in God having body parts they don't even say he has body parts like like a normal human a star for a lot ba-ba-ba-ba they gave him deformed body parts I'm not making this up they they believe in stupid things like like he has two right hands and he has only two fingers I think and he has like only one leg and that too half awake

today honestly that is not they've got some picture of some kind of a gremlin this is not God they haven't found God but on the bright side they're excused because it's that group it's that group that group you just kind of go like this you do this oh nice okay that's the last that's the bell home time off you go evening taymiyah was part of this I mean even to taymiyah it wasn't he didn't

invent it but he was part of this but so we'll all so are all these Saudi selfies they're all parties they believe in dumb stuff honestly they they you know in the 21st century the Salafi act either cannot stand its it would be ridiculed stupidly if you know if they try to teach their beliefs openly now like they do but I think they're starting to shy away now because it's time to realize that hearing themselves aloud mmm damn is that is that my voice that does sound

stupid stupid so yeah anyway and this is part of the problem with even share here so Kathy he is from this kind of group of thinking so you have to remember that people that stem from this group of thinking they would always kind of struggle with the intellectual right what is going on what is going on Oh started Abdul Aziz a column are happen people a man who truly walks the spiritual path is in our midst

well start Abdul Aziz Soraka to shut Ruffner to shut her off now step right so those of you that sometimes ask what should we do for you know for that spiritual guidance that cleansing of the soul so to speak and I tell you I'm not your guy you're just looking at somebody drenched drenched in in in the dunya drenched in sin that people like estar Abdul Aziz is your kind of guy reach out to people

like him is there a history of Arabs supremacist supremacism in Islamic history Ibrahim from Coventry Alamos Allen Allen or salmon right now Arab supremacism if there was a history obviously there was a history that book about your it's still here it's it's over there now but if you do want to go through that if you're interested in learning about Arab history that book I can't recommend it enough Arabs a three thousand year history

there was something look in the past the way the the history of Islam kind of unfolded you had the prophets time and then after the prophets time you see Muslims they weren't it's not like that they weren't ready but it's that they in my understanding had no idea or even that doesn't really do it justice I think you see what it is is that if you take the people the Companions and where Islam came it was a very humble

origin people who lived in a desert who lived in the hedge as they went they weren't really on a map worldwide they weren't so you see within decades this became a global enterprise that you know decades are not actually that long when you think about it within a natural human lifetime in natural so let's say a child was born in the time of the Prophet let's take after Leibniz obey as an example he was born he was the first

boy to be born enmity he passes away I believe it's 72 73 Hillary around that time so within his natural lifetime by the time he's passed away Islam is a global Empire the the not only Muslims but if we're gonna go and lay it deeper or closer to the roots Arabs had come an

incredibly far way I mean they'd the journey had taken them to great distances and namely grace you see more than anything else and when we say Corre Corre schwer truly I mean even till today if you're gonna look at let's say one looks at Muslims as a case study an anthropological case study Quraish till today if we're looking at them from an evolution perspective have you know made huge

I mean astronomical strides in survival even till today Quraish or given a different plateau like Sayid's all this Sayyad thing that goes on today it's just gracious me what else is it you know it's and if one was to think that they really did come a long way you know from a purely evolutionary perspective if you're just looking at this devoid of religion and just from an evolutionary anthropological perspective

the tribe of Quraish has you know has been incredibly successful I mean in its early stages as as the bony Omega and the Abbasids then the Abbasids and and even then coming right through II I mean I know you've had the Ottomans but still the Savior kind of status and then till today this whole thing of sure afar and saw that so I feel that's an interesting interesting perspective the the thing

about Arabs supremacy there was this did happen definitely happened definitely unquestionably through the time of Bani Omega and that there was this Arab it was a very pure Arab thing in the time of plenty of mania and non Arabs were not really I mean they would they were okay but they didn't oh I mean they wouldn't necessarily oppress you for being a non Arab but they wouldn't give you importance either that said they wouldn't even give importance to other Arabs so the interesting thing is if you if you look at the whole Mali

culture so in the time of burning mayor of Abdul Malik you've no Marwan and these people when they start to create new cities cities like was it in modern-day Iraq these cities they would they would have them inhabited by people and what they start because a lot of new Muslims and people start to move in who are Persians or spoke other languages they start they banned any other language in certain cities that you must only speaker week and then incurring cities like wasit another in certain

other towns they actually banned that you could not live me unless you were an Arab or you had to affiliate with a tribe hence you got a lot of this Walla these Mali later on they want a lot of them weren't actually slaves you know you get this assumption that a freed slave had wala so if I was so for example I was I don't know let's say I was enslaved now by some tribe of let's say the trial as a slave to somebody who belong to the tribe of Tamim now when I became free I

would carry the names and Tamimi they call that well in Arabic but you will see so many all the people had this wallah most of the people had this wallah in the mess up in their lineage didn't mean all of them were slaves it was that they they imposed these rules of citizens citizenship that if you wish to live here you must have a wala with one of the Arab tribes you must carry their name so a lot of the non Arabs began doing that and you see this this kind of

strong Arab supremacy in early Abbasid culture as well and then it starts to wear down because the opposites really you see what they did was they realized that in order to move forward we need these non Arabs and they needed structures there so a lot of the administrative structures came from the Persians and from the Turks and from all these other and by Turks I don't mean modern-day Turks but obviously they are still part of the Turkic people but the torque the original I suppose even today

the Turks are originally from like the Turkic people that took man perhaps by Mongolia when that part of China Russia today that came down they did so Turkish people even today are not originally from I mean maybe they've mixed in but they're not originally from the Middle East their language is not related to any language in the Middle East it's related to just the Turkic languages which is you know either very Far Eastern Western Asia or like parts of maybe modern-day

China and things like that so and I'll tell you a story actually there's a very our brief a brief summary there's a I'll go into in more detail on another occasion but there's this this legacy and a whole narrative of the early abbasids and the relationship with the Persian so there was this family known as the barometer okay and those of you that are familiar with with sham with modern-day Damascus so when I studied in Damascus

in the late 90s early 2000s there's a place they called Veronica it's in I mean it's not central the mass place towards the army people will know where it is if they know Damascus it's where they had all the the passport offices and things like this so Branca what they call it today is named after the barometer and the barometer were these people these Persian family in the time of Harun al-rashid and when haroon rasheed was growing up there was this they were the the descendants of this Zoroastrian priest

called Barack Obama now Barbic was somebody who served a kind of official position within the Sassanid Empire the Persian Empire so he was familiar with administrative structures so when the Abbasids took over he also whether he converted to Islam some people you know that's discussable or debatable and his children definitely converted to Islam and they were very familiar with the administrative structures and they were brought in by bonny kumea sorry Bible Abbas and because of the way

they knew how to organize these kind of registers and set things up and have different departments and ministries and so because they did that with the sassanids and the sustaining Empire was an empire that spanned an incredible length of time so they had a you know wealth of experience so they also you have yeah yeah Albert Mackey and then he has children you know you've got people like Jaffa Albert Mackey and these are the kind of many there's many they they kind of offspring and cousins and cousins they become so close with the with the

Calif and that they have access to his palaces they walk-in walk-out they are like family they grew up I mean they help him against coos military coos they save his life on several occasions they they were very very tight with Haruna rashidun especially Harlan sorry Jaffa bar Markie he was so he had such a bond with he had such a bond with I don't know Rasheed that I mean it was borderline was it even a one questions

whether it was homosexual I mean he was so such a tight bond that they would do things like they they would do crazy stuff like both we're one long though one kind of shirt kind of brotherly love was going on there but they would wear like one camis both of them as in in at the same time what is this both of them penetrating this so they would weigh this shirt and they would just walk around in in in the palace and in there

in his room and and they had this strange brotherly love going on you know this one and he was so tight with haroon rasheed was the Calif with you know Jaffa Albert Mackey and and he was like I mean he was like of a similar age growing up together but then you had the whole expand this whole family our Doberman which was like there was so many children and their children and cousins and and the rule in administrative positions and positions

of power and then just like one night Haroon Rashid sets up a series of events that came to be known as knock battle baram iike the tragedy of the veronica and in that night he wipes them out one by one seriously it's it's a a very stoic and

brutal tale of love friendship Brotherhood and betrayal it's just amazing and it's it's overwhelming you know when you go through it it's it's all done within this night he has this he has one or two of them that were the top like yeah Alvaro mati and one to others who was the fatherly kind of figure has them put under persistent home arrest so they kind of arrested and then they put in some held in captives

till they die but most of them he has them all killed off and and nobody's quite sure why he did it and it's amazing you know the the the sudden turn of events the turn how tragedy befalls suddenly

what taken a yam no da will have what's that Tsubaki thought the machine sham Camus dream today how many Paul Berman the phone call battle today girl no Missy Boca battle T they come right so the as in this a poem

that the people who were on Thrones by nightfall they were wanted criminals that within moments we saw the destinies of people change that this such as this dunya people such is this that so but yeah it's a tragic you know if you're ever interested and you have a bit of time read up and check out this nook battle Veronica it's always a great tale and it's part and parcel of Muslim

history now why how do nourish she did that some people feel it's because he felt that they were encroaching upon his power I think that that may have had some truth some people said it's because he was jaffer was destined to marry his sister as in he was it was or anyways Harun al-rashid who set it up he used to marry Harun al-rashid sister I think her name was a bar sell something and and everything seemed good but and he's the one who set it up and some people say he couldn't take it the thought of it that of this non Arab

marrying his sister but I don't know if that's actually how much sense that makes because he was incredibly close with Jaffa you know it wasn't and then he had him killed this love and somebody said you Jewish thing yeah Hardy cut the multi relationships can only be set free by releasing blood well that's some fascinating aspects of Muslim history right so what's going on

what's going on let's take a look at some questions people somebody said any stories about let's leave some stories for now that's enough the knuckle battle Veronica you could make an an amazing series seriously just out of the nut bottle Veronica Allah and it would be a best-seller what is going on people what is going on let's take a look at some of the questions bothering me gente let me just bring this up hide

the bass in this day and age the phone everything's documented as it is you like Mohammed Mohammed holid mind if I send you some essays for correction what like just some a levels or you mean just your your like what the hell I can't be bothered doing my homework I know let's

send it to Mufti just messy no stars of course of course let me I don't know about correction but I'll be happy to take a look Robin my mood Salaam musty hopefuls well yep shukran shukran Azhar come along hey have you studied ADHD holistically no I've not studied it holistically we have studied part of it with as part of our psychology degree a few years back a good few years back but no I mean not specialists in ADHD or anything

what is going on what is going on surah Quran verse in surah 2 more on the subject of hijab speak more about covering the jape then covering the head see I have covered this previously ah pun intended covered hijab you see that not going into too much detail but I have done this in the past I've covered it in much detail and I will again to some extent

in the future but hijab if you're going to just look at the Quran and this one now you will not find anything on resi because this first of all the term hige hige AB in and of itself is a modern term okay hey job meant a barrier so in the Quran when the term hijab is used it doesn't mean the head covering which we today are calling HR people for most of Islamic history never would have known that that you meant hey jab by that so if you could time travel a few hundred

years in the past and you said to some scholar about the hijab I mean unless they could just gather by the context what you're saying that word does not mean the head covering the head covering is called SMR in arabic this is a recent modern term so the twentieth century probably so it's very recent call referring to the head covering as The Hitcher that said is there anything in the Quran and Sunnah that clearly speaks about the head covering the truth is there isn't there's nothing explicit in

or on nor in the Sunnah that speaks about the head covering so you have got [Music] right so there is nothing explicit in the Quran asana you've got the in the quran in surah noor which speaks about covering the j the bosoms the kind of chest area for women because the jab meant a kind of the slit so it was because that's we which is then also

used for pocket because the pocket was in essence a kind of slit you slit and then you create a pocket so similarly so the dress was kind of created with a large cutout here so you could kind of and then that would you could see a considerable amount of cleavage so the quran speaks about covering the bosom the covering the chest area and it mentions the term use your the homer muhammara hina so the women a lot of the

arab women did used to wear he marked so the way they would presumably is a towel from to use this towel i've got a towel here today so presumably women would cover it like this so they would do that kind of like wrap it like that so this was about bringing this over and covering the the

kind of chest area with it so just ruin my head right so this so the point was about bringing this round what was just kind of just hanging at the back there now the question is that was because allah says you know fully that your rib nabi huh marina now let them kind of use their Hummer and cover the bosoms does this mean that having a Hummer or having the Hummer or the Samar is singular

Hummer is plural not to be confused with comma which means alcohol otherwise that would be a totally different if you say huh should cover their bosoms in alcohol daddy who Kara what is going on like okay that's a complete misreading of the verse this is why Arabic more important so this so you have Homer Homer Homer not hammer right

so the Homer is the Homer in and of itself an obligation or is this just circumstantial saris circumstantial just circumstances as in I gave the example before imagine I was to say that let's just say as an analogy totally different not to do with a job let's just say as an example if we were going through a place and I said right people hide your jewelry you know this is me it's a it's a tricky let's just say there's a lot of

thieves around and if I was to say right guys anybody wearing expensive watches cover them with your sleeves right cover them with your sleeves would this mean so let's say now somebody gets hold of my statement 200 years from today or 500 years from today would they understand that I was saying it was it was necessary to have sleeves to we're always clothing with sleeves so you could cover the watches oh good one

equally take the watch off and put it in their pocket right so what is so this in this analogy the kind of tools that play here in how you're analyzing a text are the same thing here that when a lie saying cover the bosoms with the Homer what if is Allah saying hey make sure you have Homer oh is he just saying cover this up what if you could cover in the future with different mechanisms not make sounds a

bit high-tech t but different methods like what if now you could use buttons and other things and I don't know get creative so that is an interesting discussion so really in the Quran was Sunnah they definitely isn't anything clear and established about covering the hey that's a and in the early generations of Islam I think it's not that there's definitely a culture in the early like amongst the Companions and early Islam where women generally walk home or and they would what is it they would even because the men would cover

the hair as well because they lived in a desert they would cover their face sometimes because of traveling in the sand and doing things like that so the question is that yes in early Islam there was this kind of cultural thing it was there it was definitely common I'm not sure everybody did it and you can see some debate into the time of the turban in an early the the battle today so people saying things like like Imam Malik that the woman doesn't have to

always cover her head in front of certain people she could uncover it it wasn't I'm like father-in-law son-in-law and also things like even certain servants that she could uncover in front of and which is interesting so you have this kind of it's not settled in stone yet but then within a generation it becomes the the law if you like so it becomes the teaching that all women must cover their hair and for about a thousand years it's been you know the

culture so that's what I would say so I hope that gives some explanation so I have been asked on a few occasions what do you say in this day and age they have have been certain scholars that have said look it's not it's not an obligation to cover the hair for women you've got people like a llama Joey how many you said that you've got a few other contemporary scholars who have said things like that and I feel that they have a valid position they do have a valid position I would say look each

two they're wrong you know if these women who cover the you know if we use the word hijab now because that's what people use who do this it's a part of their identity now I wouldn't say to them ever don't do that I would always say that's good that's a good thing because they you know it's part of who they are and there's some women who don't cover the head and they would feel I mean some who just ain't interested in the discussion and some who are but feel it's not an obligation I would say that that equally is a valid opinion as well

so you know you know I don't feel it's like you're going to hell issue kind of thing so that's my understanding on these things because there's nothing explicit in the Quran or in the explicit established Sunnah sorry and sighs so it must be sorry and it must be sorry there is nothing no hadith that you know non that isn't sound soundly established that means they can't be heavily clear it can't be criticized and it must be clear so that's I hope that of some help

I have had on several occasions people asking me and like I say look if it's something you're going to do sometimes some somebody asked me recently saying oh look I'm going to start donning the hijab I will start wearing it what do you think I think fine that's great that's good you know if you're going to start doing it I won't say don't or you know some thing like that I feel that that's you know I'd welcome that but equally if a woman was not wearing hijab and by hijab I mean this head covering thing I would say that what is clearly established in the Quran is the concept of modesty and

that's what seems to be emphasized explicitly by the Quran and Sunnah so if a woman wasn't wearing the hijab I would feel that that opinion equally has validity so and these are people's personal journeys through the faith it's not for other people really to impose that on people you know and it's not really it's not really for for men to to say to women that you should be covering your hair when you go out and you should be too as into force I mean they could say well I believe you should be okay

fine that's your opinion but to enforce that to kind of coerce people that would in my understanding be categorically wrong categorically wrong and you'd be doing much greater harm in my understanding and I think sometimes that it's it's my fault it's it's got two angles to it there is the angle that sometimes these men are then under guilt because they feel that the religion says that she has to cover this because what happens is you have these other scholars who give these fatwas because I said

this is I feel into bifold it's got to you know sides to it there is one side where people are just insecure men and that I think personally I think it's it's their personal it's an embarrassing weakness but many people suffer from me they have you know many men are very insecure about about women especially women that they with that if you oh my god oh my god nobody oh my gosh woman guys looking at this woman oh my god oh no she's gonna run away oh no she's gonna have enough

they have this thing where they treat like Oh Mike if a woman isn't fully covered up then she must it must just be like full burqa or it must just be prostitute oh bloody hell it's like either she's like absolutely wrapped up in I don't know in duct tape and in bubble wrap what's it called that kind of my roba Oliver is right she's either covered up in bubble wrap or

she's from the horse of Babylon there's just two different mcoms that's it right beekeeper suits yeah exactly so the this is ridiculous now so you do get a lot of people that are very insecure and so they they want the women to be covered up because they can't handle the woman out there as in they feel oh my god even if a man looks at you that means what the hell you know they feel

inept and this is a weakness and a lacking within they don't feel like real men oh you know because it's true they lack within so what they lack within they try to make without you know that so there's that and then what you have is some of these people get into positions of power these insecure people and they then guilt-trip other people so they say any guy whose wife is walking around without without her hair covered

is a the youth and he's he's like a cuckold and he's you know it's haram what he's doing is Haram and an abomination and God's Lana is descending upon him and so you have this kind of cocktail of insecurity mixed with guilt riddled with guilt so some guys would probably feel really guilty thinking oh my god I'm being cursed by God so because of that they

were right people watch your language please I don't know somebody responding to somebody else no profanity only I exclusively hold the right to that on my own on my own live session right so the so people some guys feel if I don't tell my wife to wear these oh my sister or my daughter or my whatever then I'm being cursed so that so they're doing this out

of a kind of a religious burdensome guilt and that is sickening and the people who are burdening them with that are sick as well all they're doing it out of this kind of insecurity so I feel both of these things are inaccurate and wrong and this is why you know this is the problem with some of this institutionalization it produces just hypocrisy oh it produces guilt and Islam never came to do any of these things you know your Deen I say this time and time again look your Deen your where this this

theme of Islam as the Prophet said a teen of yourself this Deen is one of ease this Deen should complement your lifestyle people you should never impede it you should never kind of be tripping you up it should never be the thing holding you back should never be an obstacle in your path it should be the nitro boost to you it should be something that betters you that propels you to achieve to to do things to it should comfort you it should console you it should not

be tripping you up and making you burdened with this kind of weight of guilt and suffering it should not cause you suffering so if it is doing that then you see that's not the kind of thing that's not my understanding of the D we would then disagree in our understandings because my dean the way I understand Islam it complements my life I don't see Islam as something burdensome I don't see Islam as something that will trip me up or slow me down and I am and I do unfortunately

see that with a lot of other people that it does do that for them and I get that that's the interpretation but I think that interpretation isn't the one that the Deen really came with so I hope that's of of some help cool somebody said Mufti Abu layth al-maliki Wow the full thing shebang either that is

sarcasm level 100 oh that's a die-hard fan either ways I as complexed so he's asked can I give examples of how the Deen can nitro boost your life how he can boost your life yes of course you can take a message of wanting to achieve from this theme you can take a message of optimism from this theme The Messenger of Allah intimacy it said that he would love to father he would love optimism and that the messenger of allah

so allah allahu salam said that you know even if it was the final moments of your life and you're planting a tree continue to plant it so he was encouraging you to achieve The Messenger of Allah Salih Saleh llahu allahu salam to people he said that when when they asked but you know would God be upset or would God not like that we spend on ourselves and we we like to weigh expensive clothes and expensive shoes and The Messenger of Allah said he said no you've misunderstood me in a

large Jamil your Hipple Jamaat Allah is beautiful God is beautiful he loves beauty the message the Dean would help you in the sense when a person came thinking that asceticism you know coming in this kind of ragged appearance thinking that somehow this demonstrates a religiosity The Messenger of Allah said to him do you not have decent clothing do you lack wealth and the person said no I've got I've got money because the Prophet said if that's your problem then maybe somebody can donate something because you look like

you know in this ragged appearance it's kind of like a like a hobo experience you know like you're almost homeless and destitute so person said no I've got wealth but you know I like being ascetic yeah I'm not delve in the dirt and the Prophet said in the law your hipbone your arthur inanity you had an update if a lies be styled something upon you in terms of his gifts and he showered you with them he wants to see you in them this is how the Deen boost you it should boost your morale one might be now

mighty Rebecca for her Allah says from the the blessings of your lord speak of them for BAE Allah Arabic Ummah to Cathy and which of the favours of your lord do you still do nothing so I think the Dean should not be something that holds us back this is in my understanding okay now maybe people have other perspectives but I hope that's of some of some help um our city is in the house start Missouri monocot you're in the

house are you ascetic am i ascetic hell no why would I be ascetic Allah says in the Quran will attend Sunnah see becoming in dunya don't forget your portion of the world so since it's come from the Lord I dived riding I didn't want people to think I'm doing cofran nama that I'm rejecting the mercy of my lord

so somebody's asked about banning Matta look I will do a detailed discussion on moat on another occasion but motorized not Haram in my understanding Mota is if a person was to have a low level low commitment let's say relationship it is obviously it's going to be it's going to be a sexual relationship it's it's not

going to be it's not gonna be like I know I'll be statistical care Nnamdi mom or Banga uncle and nephew that's not what I mean so muta is basically a temporary marriage there's nothing in my understanding and this is in line with great scholars like if Naraku was a great Maliki legend of the 20th century and which that his in his own right him and other people of recent times there's

the Maliki scholar in Morocco who's authored a great book which I've got here somewhere it's cool Matar keratin JD de phil phik assume me that it's a revised reading of the Sunni tradition of Sonny perspective on maja and it's very interesting because when you analyze the actual concept of Matan you look at things like the hadith that allegedly prohibit maja they are very contradictory and they

don't seem to stand now I get the fact that people I get the moral argument I do get that but in all honesty the way I see it is if it's two adults who between themselves you know have an agreement on what they're doing who gives a damn what other people think you know that's that's my perspective on these things I do think that the there's a lot of loaded kind of emotion against Matara which is based on the anti-shia

sentiment so because Sonny's in general will obviously not like the Shia and the Shia have become known for the concept of Mitaka because they defended it so the Sunnis have really hated on the concept of Mata and they've really killed it and they've made all these kind of insults about it and stuff like this but in all honesty you know the Sun needs themselves we in all our books of tradition they they say things like Oh Anika be neat if the lock is fine you know that you can marry someone and in

your mind without telling her you know intend to divorce her shortly after and even abdill bar is a Craig Maliki legend you know which they hid in his estate car bring has a thorough discussion on this thing this is absolutely permissible according to almost the outright majority of all Sunni scholars so and I would find that problematic that you know that has a level of deception I would feel but what are at least they both agree they think that look fine you know this is how it's just a short term shorter short term

experience it it's it's just a what do they call the you know when you catch a bus you have the day day saver just a day savor pass just a few hops that's when you catching a bus alright so but this is why if it was mutual understanding remember there's no this is not to say oh people need to do this but if people wanted to do this who's to say it's Haram and and

I feel that it might even provides some part of a solution in the modern problem of whether a couple islamically a whether a couple are even compatible so let's say a couple were to make us nowadays compatibility how'd you even know compatibility and you know an absolute spanner in the works is sexual compatibility how do you know that so there's a solution I think maybe I

should open a website offering what ah and so all people could kind of get on there it could be like a and what ha what a bureau your pass expires you can buy a pass and expires within a certain days but look I I don't see the big deal because nobody's you know people that get worked up about Mutara one if I'm gonna be honest I think that they just jealous against the Shia I'm just gonna be honest I think they just hate on the Shia because of one sectarian hate and

two because they just jealous that they wish they could do it three I think look from the Sunni perspective there's so much evidence that it's not Haram and it's very it's very difficult to prove it Haram so I the fourth most important point is nobody saying you have to do it nobody's saying you have to do more time you know if the person wanted to do it that's what that's and you know a dumb thing that people say and and the salafi this this color I spoke of this Maliki contemporary his name's ignores rock and

he has a debate on YouTube about this with a with Chef was the Salafi Moroccan scholar chef fazzazi facade EFA's Ozzy but anyway he's debating him it's on YouTube about Mota ha and then that Salafi chef says and this is the dumbest the dumbest of things oh ok if you believe what is halal he says to the ship ok I'll do what are with your daughter I mean what a dumb this war despicable you see that's like

saying oh just because you believe in Nika is halal getting married is hala ok marry me you daughter because you believe in the concept I mean what a dumb statement you know it's like oh is that how you argue oh so you believe this is halal so ok let me do this with that so that guy says to him that look he says that he responds by saying something like look first of all he says that that just shows how pathetic you are

and secondly halal or not even if this was a regular marriage he says I've never marry my daughter off to you because he says you're just an idiot so the point is that look this is not some kind of you know truth-o-meter that you measure the truth by saying oh if you believe this is ok alright so how about if that's how it worked it's like okay chef if you believe oral sex is permissible

well there's only one way to find if you truly believe it's permissible I mean this is not how you know this is not how a logic or reasoning works well may the Lord of mercy on us Lord of mercy right so people let's take a look at some other questions what's going on what's going on right I haven't

checked the stop you're still going on for my exercise stop right let's take a bit of a rapid round and then Daniel Steve said Musti Dino hoverboards don't exist I know I just fell off one my foot is recovering I hope I think it was

fractured I think but it's recovering it's strange you know you only start realizing your vulnerabilities after you know after you break something like oh holy cow insanity FIFA inside has been created weak you know it's like that there's that mean we're human I don't know if you've seen those clips so he says human beings are incredible you got one guy doing this and he's doing like all these backward backflips and some guy jumping off a cliff and doing this and some guy jumping off buildings and

landing like this and somebody parachuting and somebody jumping through a bunch of things and you gotta says human beings are incredible and then you fracture over a part or pull a muscle or sprain something and and it's like five years later still not quite the same well who are you going to have a convo with next on YouTube let's see let's see who do you

suppose you propose to do you propose right okay so I tell you what let's move to chef Yasir Qadhi all right so those of you that have just tuned in people click like click Share we will now be addressing share Piazza Aldi right bismillah a bucket a jelly

kya tuna um go be moose awesome job there's an older poet he says Oh divine speaking to the divine kind of I suppose it means lightning but in this sense it's not just the kind of divine manifestation he says do you take us to be here see the old poets they they were very daring in the expression says do you take us to be like Moses hum he says

me tornado gel gel job cha him o Kabila says are not Mount Sinai that I will collapse whenever you want manifest yourself just by dilgar major who her cheese Maccabiah joy manzil kill ye dog on channel or saman Amundson oh joy says

it's all down to the passion unbridled passion people says if you have that you will achieve anything all you have to do is take two steps towards your destiny and your destiny will be the destination in front of you Allah Allah right so let's alright so let's move to our call the judge our judge friend

yes sir cavite Allah Allah the zombie destroy our people the zombie slayer sure yes sir aka the zombie slayer so what is going on so chef yes it bother you what I'm gonna do is tell you a bit of the the backdrop and then a bit of the controversy on him taking a few digs at me yeah me yeah up on up on up and

pay attack so what is this about the contradictions in his statements we're gonna take a little look at them so those of you just tuning in you may like and share and spread spread the love people spread the fittin in facade so right so what's the backdrop the backdrop is that not so long ago chef has a hobby while it's going through

he's behind the scenes okay this part is my perspective that he I feel that chef yessir called he may be going through a bit of an existential crisis obviously I don't I'm not so sure that he's admitted to that or maybe he has but I feel that he wants to break away from I feel that he does not believe in a lot of the things that he's he's actually expressing prey he's just not being true like many people you see the thing is that even hypocrisy is he

should be done with standards you know it should be a person should still have integrity that's as the poet says maybe shower for a be who touch say Mohammed Nagar you know that I don't make them say Mahatma he got that something that I am

my he says I'm a fraud stir I'm a fraud the person openly admits he says that I by profession deceive people I'm a Romeo con artist madam say Mohammed carnies that I can't I can't I'm incapable of truly loving at least he's being honest is he's being honest

in what he says what he is an amazing line in that poem where he says he says Misaka Tahoe Mooji Tom said nahi Alfred he says I say very clearly to you that I don't have any true connection or feelings with you [ __ ] love see Martin Hannett he says these are only superficial words metal

pay money he said he says I can't die there's a a kind of an admirable quality in the brutal honesty that the poet betrayed that he portrays in maybe shovel for a be home Muhammad carnies anyway coming back to this discussion the problem is that many people they have these double standards you see so they struggle to they preach something but they can't really believe in that

thing themselves so I feel that Sheriff Adi has also reached that kind of a stage in his life now recently he he had some discussion not so long ago we he spoke about you Jamaat and he expressed that how he is now incapable of accepting a literal understanding of ya'juj and ma'juj or the traditional if I let me reword that the traditional understanding of ya to Jamaa Jew so what is yet drew Jamaat Jude yeah George

Armitage are nobody's truly sure I guess if you take a very the perspective of scholars coming through the ages well that these were some kind of human-like creatures and that will emerge at the end of time that they may be trapped behind some kind of a barrier and when they do emerge they will you know wreak havoc on earth that they will completely destroy the earth and they will be from the signs of you know the apocalypse of

the end of time right now so share the acid party now there are verses in the Quran referring to you Jamaat Union yadu Jamaat Jude doesn't actually mean something like it's not um it's it's not a clearly meaningful word in Arabic so it's not quite sure what the word means it seems to be a yeah jus Jam attitude so people weren't sure this is why it was like an elusive term it seems to have been an Arab a size term so it's not perhaps not Arabic in origin so some people felt maybe these

were two tribes of people and then there's the story that maybe they were these ancient tribes that were trapped behind a barrier by this person called little Canaan and these people every day tried to escape from this barrier they are incapable of doing so however towards the end of time and they will finally overcome this insurmountable barrier and they will be unleashed on the earth were humming [ __ ] had them in yen saloon as the koran says and they from all directions pour forth now and

this havoc and chaos on earth now Ange the traditional perspective was that they were the strange looking kind of people or whatever they were a lot of people some people felt they were humans maybe slightly deformed and some people felt they were maybe some other kind of creation some people felt there were the Turks random and some people felt though the Chinese which is so stupid right so nevertheless sheriff yasser called the recently discussing this came out with

with just being true to himself said look i can't accept that it doesn't make sense because there are no millions of millions of people or billions billions on earth that are undiscovered our contemporary geography has uncovered has mapped out the earth for us there is no great barrier behind which these people stand therefore we can't accept this the way it is he then went on to give some interpretations he said perhaps this could be a metaphor for just chaos on earth it could be as some people have said maybe it was the colonialism and

things like this and and and I've said as well in the past that that does hold a very strong interpretation for me for being the kind of colonial phenomenon that humans went through oh and then he gives this other interpretation where he says okay I'm I didn't come up with this but I was having a discussion with these students of knowledge and they came up with this and even though it sounds really strange but it ticks all the boxes they could be zombies I don't know what kind of box is

they that tick like in need of psychiatric care take mentally handicapped take just escaped from a psych ward take suffering from severe delusions tick what kind of box is that ticked desperately in need of mushrooms take eligible for eligible for special

benefits and welfare tick right so I feel that this is on YouTube by the way I think it is on YouTube so you had a lot of people a lot of selfies came out attacked him including our good old friend Abu Abu Ibrahim The Exorcist

right so if you remember a wall back the Exorcist or he he did a refutation of me in which he quoted a die for these and I got him you know I catch him out he said bye it's so fun to catch our hobby using life a deed it's so fun that makes my day that I'm like just like a kid with a new toy like I'm just so ecstatic I'll

be like my look right so so yeah so even what is even a boy Rahim has a YouTube video refuting ship yes or are the on this whole zombies thing and several other people have refuted in people said what the hell and said to him you've lost the plot and and then ever since sure he has a cardi has been trying to justify this one you can't justify this is one of those things you

can't justify you know just disown it now have you seen that me mother some guy where he's he's speaking and he just it just kind of thoughts it's like some kind of I don't know it's in another lie don't know whether it's Swahili or oh it might be Somali you I don't know what language it is he speaking in a language and he just thoughts in between and it's a viral clip and he just says al hamdulillah

he's like well damn he's like well I'm just gonna own it now but anyway all the you know this one justification so so ever since he's been trying to justify this he's been like bending over backwards and doing all these backflips and gymnastic aerobics and trying to say well oh well I didn't quite mean it like I meant you know come on these zombies

ain't that bad zombies were God's sake let me get this right let me get this right people he said this subhuman all humans being trapped behind a berry on earth due to our contemporary knowledge of science and geography demonstrates that that's nonsensical therefore it is more likely plausible

zombies Oh God ah cha-cha-cha me I'd Youssef me and you survive me and you sir you know the good old anecdote of the guy that everybody feared you some major scholar of Islam and he approaches and everybody's like oh they're the mole visa like quickly sit up straight do this dude and then when they ask him to introduce himself he says he says my

name is he says people call me me and rusev not use of Jusuf like a cha cha cha cha cha so they just kind of get all relaxed again that attach hides me and rusev I try it's not geographically fathomable and it's not rational so it's zombies no no drugs bad you know

no no no marijuana today today heroin this this one it's not taking the make out the listeners you know so yes Adi he's been trying to justify since so anyway he he then decides to have a he does a podcast which he's just done I think this last week with the madman looks so

they have a podcast and this podcast now you see what he's trying to do is he's trying to also reassert I'm still very traditional yeah eyes on a urea is I had me whole it's me and her right so the thing is he's he's trying to reassert himself as guys relax it's still me yes right so he's trying to justify and he's going through all these

things and part of you see when you wish to reaffirm reassert yourself so what do you do doctor me they got me Minami what do you do people tell me what you would do to reaffirm your position amongst the people what position would you assume not one of those Asians you know what position would use you the usual Salafi Wahabi position that I know let's bash a

few other people the usual thing let's declare a few other people heretics so then obviously I've assumed a position of power I've assumed a position of orthodoxy by condemning other people as heretics so what he does is they have this discussion and they start saying well you know nowadays there's a lot of people you know they're struggling to accept miracles in the Quran share

people and they're like not accepting miracles in the kitchen how are you [ __ ] why the gas pressure coming out from that side you trying to figure out that what is going on here likewise so and then the other guy on Mad mom look says to him he says chef you know this he says sure you know this mostly Abu

layth who says my name you know my name you mentioned my name you mentioned the devil and yep yeah you know so I had to obviously so people say oh [ __ ] have you sob have you heard what these people are saying so I'm like no way so I I go - sorry check this out now and I can't bloody find the damn thing because I honestly I can't be bothered to listen to the whole it's that long but anyway somebody shukran muchas

gracias por T they sent me the exact location so about I think it's one hour 13 minutes into he he says oh people like multi Abu layth they deny certain miracles and they deny things like the virginity of Maryam Ali asana look at that saying it like that like you know that just sounds so scandalous doesn't it even I was like oh what is going on I

was like whoa oh whatever denies the virginity of money that just sounds so like I'm saying something so grotesque so anyway and then he says oh and they denied this and they deny these certain things and so what do you have to say about this so sure judge judge dredd so Judge Dredd yes I've called the saw him he says well you know he says look I'm just gonna be he says look I know I'm I like to you see we have to always look at the Quran

Osuna know this one this one not nice he says Quran was not very clear you know very clear so he says look why he doesn't and he does he doesn't use my name but he says why doesn't he oh these people my kind you know what them your kind all right why don't they just declare themselves why don't they just say that we're Natsume [Music] why don't they just basically say we're

not from Orthodox Islam we're not from Sunni Islam and we are mozilla which is an older deviant extremist sect why don't I just declare myself from that and then we wouldn't have an issue he says you know this is how you would and then we don't have an issue with these people I was like a hungry cat or humping attack at uh Josh yeah me and

rusev alright so I was like wait a minute Justin ah BG to start off with first of all first first point last time I checked let me check again yep this are not your dad's name you know last time I checked this wasn't your dad's Dean I mean this couch AHA nickel via like let's check him out let's check him out let's check him out this was uh this

isn't yeah so call these dogs Dean is it no okay second second point second point second point let me check the record we checked the record and interestingly Cheryl Adi himself is a Wahhabi what hobbies according slfe which our hobbies according to the majority of the smoothly or no sunny and it's only

people it's people like me they say no no guys Oh everybody these all should be kind of sunny just let them it's only a few the minority and amongst that minorities me that says no Salafis to should be part beacon sidered part of the Sunni majority of Muslims but the majority of Muslim Sunnis do not consider Wahabis to be sunny this aren't

intriguing so it's like one he's hobby is telling somebody else to not declare themselves to me so you're thinking ha ha - come food you know they used to say in some parts of India Baxter they said you know there's a slogan Sunni Shia bye-bye Sunni and Shia brothers so they said they say Sunni Shia bye-bye yet this region mark our CI that hey did this third category

come from of the wahhabis now not me I'm actually quite inclusive I say the hobbies as well are under the Sunni spectrum but most Sunnis no way most Sunnis categorically the a shoddy is do not consider our hobbies to be Sunni Muslims so to start off with this is such an irony ok let's put that aside of course I'm so me too you know this thing of somebody asked here question about Martha silly just to define that Marta

silly is an extreme extinct sect from early Islam it emerged on extremist grounds that anybody and this is what this was the pillar of the creed that any person who commits a sin is no longer a Muslim but he's not a Kaffir they came up with a purgatory state they believed that there was this thing this purgatory state called almansi Labine almansi lat any Muslim who commits a sin is in that limbo state forever until they don't renew their faith they would chuck them out of Islam but they wouldn't declare

them kaffir but they wouldn't accept them as Muslims either this extremist sect that began with this as their core belief so they have five key beliefs and this is number one that you must believe this to be martyrs right this sect and then they developed other you know that God is bound by certain structures and things like this so just because later theologians write later theologians write when they got into certain debates with Martha Zilla so some of the martyrs

Allah mocked some of the theologians for being thick so as their defense instead of taking them you know taking the bull by the wounds some of those theologians this is hundreds of years after the Prophet by the way this is like four hundred five hundred years after the Prophet some of these theologians instead of saying no let's clap you know you bring your idea will meet idea an idea they started to say oh you're mocking us because what we say stupid oh so you're using your uncle you're using

your intellect ha ha ha so because some theologians started to do that it created a problem which we're still dealing with today that some Muslims believe think that maybe the intellect is bad which is the dumbest the dumbest thing anybody could say right so ok let's put that argument there let's leave that there let's return to Judge Dredd Mia and Joseph RB right so Mia Jessica V he says that ok people like me

for questioning certain interpretations that exist today should be deemed a heretic this is his words that I am truly essentially by my essence I am a heretic and I should not be part of mainstream Islam this was his view in the same discussion and I plead with you all to watch this just in case somebody thinks I'm making this up or I'm exaggerating in the same discussion he goes on to say well he goes on to

discuss the yadu Jamaat huge now let's just pause before getting into that he attacks me for saying that oh because I questioned certain things like let's say was Jesus born of a virgin birth now all I said was that no way in the Quran does it explicitly say that Jesus was born of a virgin birth the early Christians did not believe that Jesus was born of a virgin birth this was something that were later Christians believed and it was made doctrine by the third century

after Jesus so this was not even early Christian belief and you know the thing the Bible Bible mentions no such thing and this thing about the prophecy in that I think the Gospel of Matthew refers to the the prophecy of Isaiah where he says that the maiden the young maiden will be with child they translated as virgin the the actual original word alma is not necessarily a virgin so whereas Batool in the in the Jewish Bible is a virgin so that's interesting

they don't use the term virgin Elma often was a virgin but half it just meant a young maiden a young lady a young woman that's what it meant so now coming back to this in the Quran it does not explicitly anyway mention that Jesus was born of a virgin birth and I've got a detailed video explaining that if you watch that and they have been many great allama of Islam especially of recent times that have spoken about this they've visited they've looked at in in-depth people like a llama the man named Maddie who wrote on the topic people like

Maulana Abdul Karim ls3 Nastasia or whatever Skaar discusses this in depth explaining that look there's nothing to say that that the Koran simply went the angel when the angel appears to Maryam alia salam and says that you will have you know gives her glad tidings and she says but i've not yet but i've not been touched and he says but the Lord has decreed but the same the angel appears to Abraham gives him glad tidings when he says how but my wife has now attained

the menopause and she's of an older age and he says well the same thing to Ibrahim he appears to Korea where he says my wife is barren and and he says the same infertile and he says the same thing it did not mean that there was no natural method that took place he didn't mean that he just they were all kind of non there was no father involved in any of them so Abraham is not the father it's just only the is only from the mother that nobody said that but with Maryam alehissalaam people took this because it was the prevailing

Christian doctrine at the time now Maulana Abdul Karim lr3 looks at this in depth his teacher Marana an Ayatollah I was here Abadi L Gujarati he has a detailed book on it as well called a Yunus mhmm he will add the tip no Maryam regarding the birth of the Son of Mary where he speaks that look the Quran doesn't actually say this the Quran may one may say that it implies well one could infer that that's true you could equally infer that at the time the the husband of Mary everybody believes that Mary was married to Joseph that the

husband of Mary was just not interested in intimacy he was not an intimacy inclined individual and then he came in that he was not mad in this way but he was as part of the divine decree so he changes this was the kind of if you want to call it a miracle now my point was that you see when he mentions that oh people like like me like Multi Abu layth are saying that look certain things go against science or go against reason now what is I want to ask you

what is science or reason this is reason is the is the ability of a healthy mind to pass judgment especially based on evidence okay science is our observation of the world it's our observation of things around us whether they are forces whether they are atoms whether they are causation elements of you know laws within physics of thermodynamics or whatever this it's observation of what is around us okay now this is what we call science yeah

now keep that in mind now let's return to share yourself all the judge dredd he goes on now once he finishes that topic he goes on to discuss once again yeah to Jamaat huge and he then says but because of our knowledge of contemporary geography geography we know that this medieval interpretation can't be true so

we need to reinterpret it ah because of our knowledge of contemporary geography or the world around us so we're revisiting an interpretation a cha-cha-cha Church ball model heresy isn't that the same thing that you just said a moment ago that this guy for saying that something goes against science or the laws of physics

or against reason it he is definitely a heretic and outside of the fold of mainstream Islam because he said that we need to revisit these interpretations ah a child but when you do it it's okay because oh you're doing it based on geography a cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha gravida partment value at our home cause the science department my chart this is favoritism you know I like geography okay

science no I made you serve right so it is laughable the hypocrisy of that discussion because Yasir Qadhi then spends elaborate elaborate kind of time and discussion he has an elaborate discussion on justifying his position in saying look this is actually this is still fine because I'm basing it on you

know because I'm not the only one he said I'm not the only one to interpret because my teachers teacher had interpreted so my tea as in chefs Rd after you know chef Soddy had interpreted yeah juju my judge who is from the 20th century a cha cha cha cha though he'd you talk to him so these chachi who I quoted when I quoted Maulana Alam Ottoman Ahmadi who's also from the 19th century in the 20th century and when I quoted people like share or Zira body who is from the 19th

as re going in also 20th century and Abdul Karim a theory from the 20th century when I quote people like am Not sure who was the shell islam of the 20th century when i quote these people or muhammad abdul was from the 1918 sorry 19th century oh you've got other scholars they're not acceptable because o because they're modern a cha-cha-cha-cha buggin out katachi shits a d when it comes to chef sati because he's the teacher of bin baz and we'll say mean and these people all of a

sudden everything is everything is rather dandy this one my friend is not nice so I seriously was like wow did anybody just noticed the utter hypocrisy in that discussion because a segment of it was just like oh these people are heretics and should be nothing to do with mainstream Islam because they say we need to revisit certain rulings and sorry certain interpretations even

though they have precedents but they have just you know 20th century and 19th century presidents okay a cha-cha but my cha-cha from my uncle Mateo this chef Zadi because he's the teacher of my teachers when he because he's interpreted HR but this interpretation it's okay to revisit because geography geography a cha-cha oh

these aren't impressive you know geography where would we be people without geography science guy barman but where would we be without geography I [Music] [Laughter] want to know who Chevy asked him are these secondary school geography teacher was whoever he or she was they left an impression at enticing but geography tells us that this interpretation we can

revisit a cha-cha-cha up Quran to Muhammad and your pious and masha'Allah savior of Islam Hungary tauhara me [Laughter] what's that make a root Oh Salah what's the but anyway so this is the whole this

is the this this is the problem so the hypocrisy was just I mean our best it was laughable but it was disappointing because this is what you're dealing with and it's amazing how ah that's it maker Auto Salah character delight this is the problem you see that it's just I'm a soft target that's the thing you know a soft at heart you know soft at heart cuz they just look at me and say oh but look at him you know look at his goatee

look at his earring look at this look at that by the way I've got a detailed video on the earring you can watch that so I'm a soft tog easy target for them but I but I am Who I am openly you know I'm not hiding behind I'm not using a fake veneer pretending a because you know mush of law when I was [ __ ] with sitting with Chef what they mean and I was sitting with chef in bars and I was sitting with you know look first of all let me just tell you

something people less less real talk yeah yes today I accept that these selfies are anti-terrorism yeah I accept this but it was only yesterday that these people gave birth to terrorism this terrorism that we seen today a huge part of it is only from these wahhabis let's just be honest like realtalk share bimba's or these you know share Alberni

share mock bill chef these people were part of the Gemara to participants of salafiyyah only in the 70s this isn't that long ago 70s is not such so they used to go around they were like the Taliban going around bullying people beating people up setting up these kind of plots now they did allegedly dissociate themselves but because the group the Jamaat or martyrs were to salafiyyah right went on to to hijack the Karma do you remember joy a man with was in 1979 the the hijack of the Kaaba

where they hijacked and took the held people hostage is you can sue you can type it into YouTube that movement Joe a man who they caught and killed he was nobody Joe hey man later on they declared him to be the Madi or whatever but if you look at the founders the key people in that movement you can type it in on YouTube on on Google bring it up you you can buy books on it now the key pioneers were people like bin baz and people like Cheryl Bernie and chef McBeal and these people were the founding fathers of that

movement all this Isis these people were praising Isis now they're speaking against do you know somebody sent me this you can find this clip on YouTube yeah where you can wear a cooler embarrasses a set a Salafi cleric live on TV so this they share I think his name's are rude or something but this this a hobby chef is on live and he speaking he's condemning Isis Fairplay is condemning them saying look these people absolute wrong deviant

whatever someone's over so somebody calls him it's a live Q & H show at the person test shell you know he says that you you're condemning Isis and everything which is good but he says but it was only you know one two years ago that you were praising them so the chef says oh that's a lot of big I'll be kind with you you know perhaps you've misunderstood me how the kids born what boy turn this is a lie I would never praise RT burhanakum bring your evidence hey you know ain't it the lead so the guy the cooler had obviously come prepared he says not a problem ship

right here you want the bran and he plays the clip so you can hear the share and the clip that you can find on youtube they've actually put the other clip in that clip so he himself the share the south at the Saudi Salafi chef is saying or he may not be Saudi but he's definitely Salafi is from the Gulf right so he himself is saying that oh oh our brothers from Isis ninety-nine out of a hundred or decent people it's only one out of a hundred that is messed up and he's saying this he says you know

these people minute the why you shorten the medulla from the dollar to Islamiyah at this hour T say in a film in 99 out of 100 you know they're not that bad it's only one out of order and then he the sheriff says cut him off cut him off you see these people I'm not saying today they are the terrorists they're not but the Frankenstein problem we have they have played a significant role in producing that problem why do you think chef yes and all he was such a hothead in the late 90s early 2000s because he was

himself at that time he was fresh he was a production now I'm sure shitty-ass a party has moved on from these kind of fanatic ideas but the point is that these teachers that he still goes on about are still at the end of the day those very people that germinated that you know they fertilized this movement they you know it's this firm metaphorical spur right you know and how far is the Apple full from the tree so so these things you know it's interesting how these people assume such

a lofty position in Islam and the dictate to others and so yeah so I hope so these are some of my thoughts people I know I kind of went on for a while whoa is that the time guys let's wrap this up it's been awesome I hope that some food for thought I wanted to clarify that look yes I do feel that there are certain interpretations that have existed for hundreds of years I'm not the only one several great scholars of our recent times have said they need to be revisited because they're not the clear expression of the Quran they weren't interpretation by certain people and yes

reason the voice of reason is always paramount and I do give primacy to it because through it we can understand that the deen of islam has validity in that it is to us it holds true and i'm not the only one that says that does this but what I won't do is oh I interpret things but when you have one interpretation call you are deviant and then but my own I kind of say oh but this is totally fine I'm doing this but you when you interpret you leave the fold of mainstream Islam which is just a

reflective of that fanatic past you know that fanatic extremist past of of excommunicating people chucking them out of the religion or but now you're not chucking the mountain religion you're just chucking them out of mainstream Islam not that it was your dad's Deen to begin with anyway people as well it's been an absolute none I think it's a total I'm not sure how but it is I rule if you type that in aro you are it should bring it up hopefully on YouTube or Google people let's call it call it a

wrap with that take very good care of yourselves remember mean you're kind of us well Salam o aleikum wa rahmatullah Lahore Burak are two people over now Salaam aleikum