It Is In Giving That We Receive | Meaning With MALM #23

all right bismillah let me just straighten that out so first and foremost people as always i've got to do a sound check make sure it's coming through loud and clear right let me just bring my coffee over here right so uh so what is going on people ah let me just check that you guys can hear me i'm just bringing up the other comments as well for

people on youtube all right so shukran shukran mark lonzetta you're doing it um right if you guys i take it this the sound is uh loud and clear clear right scorpio likewise

right we've got the we have right akbar so tonight what i wanted to take a look at

was in fact once i bring that up i'll let you guys do the usual drill which is you guys are very should be very familiar with it now right so just like and share and let me bring up um today's session be it nila so what are we looking at right here we've got where is today's date mm-hmm

right interesting esme sante um oh there is i thought for a moment where is this gone but alhamdulillah well so it is in giving that we receive allah

what a topic and theme to cover so that's i think incredibly pertinent and necessary for each and every one of us i want to speak a bit about that the quranic guidance in relation to that so i want to cover the topic of risk but also some verses that guide us towards that and maybe what we perceive as a struggle and how the quran sheds light on that in in light of this discussion of risk and giving and receiving and

there's a story of a companion or an incident rather an incident it's not even an entire story it's an incident but i thought let's use this opportunity to introduce this sahabi um and since we were talking about that incident that kind of reminded me of another incident one with a bit more humor in it and and i guess just interesting to learn and that's of a character known as abu dhulama and he's from the time of the abbasids

and his his encounter with the caliph abbasids and what happened so that's something quite interesting he's a poet he's uh he becomes like uh almost like the court jester so to speak but he is an interesting character but he is his his character also reflects light on the caliphs as well because an interaction is really a dialogue between two people isn't it so alright what is going on right new pop filter i thought you know

what i thought to myself this is lying around let me just put it on i was playing back one of my clips and i could hear some some of the pops and things and i thought well hmm you see this the mic i use is the elgato wave three it is really good but and it had a pop filter with it like a slick one that comes with it magnetic and i think zozo broke it [Music] so i thought yeah let me try this see if it makes a difference to the sound in a positive way so right

all right leopard i believe it is it's been a while abdul bursit all right oh thanks i thought was it saying salaam to what's he just saying salaam to clear but that's good as well that's good as well all right so nora as always shukren shukran and let me see who have lucy win jones all right see look at this it's the looks like you're in a car mufti

[Laughter] i should try and do this from my car on one of the days anyways [Music] there goes that huh so you know there's uh speaking of cars there's these new regulations or something in the uk they're bringing out and i don't know what's happening here honestly sometimes i think i mean just what is the iq of politicians it's

they gen genuinely can't be the most sharpest people among society i i don't know i i struggle to believe that i mean they're not dumb and okay some maybe but okay most of them may not be totally dumb and stupid but they're not the most intelligent it's amazing isn't it i guess plato was right after all he said that you see you can't have the intelligent people ruling over the majority of because he said the majority of people he called him the mob and mob he doesn't mean mob like mafia mob

so mob comes from them since this ancient discourse and it meant the masses the kind of um the people who are not you know they're not going to be the most pristine and the most kind of sharp and intellectual bright uh you know quota of society they're going to be the general masses so the laymen and the people who are not really they just you know they just see get on with life those people are can be quite unruly plato had argued and

he said that you see if you had a philosopher rule over them that would be ideal for their prosperity but the problem is he said that none of them would be able to identify with the philosopher or with this genius like they wouldn't be able to relate to sheer intelligence so and in many ways a bit like the dunning-kruger effect you see intelligent people i mean this would come off quite what should we say uh politically may incorrect rather but you see them intelligent people come off more

like okay the more i don't know if dumb is the right word to use here but let's say uh the more intellectually challenged one is the more absurd they perceive somebody intelligent so the cleverer you are the more intelligent you are the more dumb you appear to dumb people so it kind of works like that it's not um and so what plato was arguing was that you see they wouldn't identify with the philosopher and so they would just rebel

and even if he he he had like a vision or something but they couldn't see it so he said the best way for to keep them content is they have to be ruled by the mob by one of them so otherwise so the minority cannot rule the majority i guess in some ways one could translate plato's republic or one of the morals of his republic those that don't know ibn rush actually translates plato's republic and he has a commentary on it so that's quite interesting and it's not even a big commentary it's just something

i don't know maybe i don't know is it even 100 100 pages something like that so it's um it's quite interesting i've in the past read from it and he's discussing issues of uh gender equality back then this is nine hundred years ago uh abu baleed the muslim scholar from uh

from muslim spain um right so what let's take a look a a border invader assalamu alaikum from los angeles in california in the city of the a from the city of the angels huh allah

um right so right what is going on um yeah i do i do still have that you know i have a mic right there right here i could swing it across and it's it's actually really i forgot what it's called it's like it's the joe rogan one but the problem is then i have to kind of just sit here like this with it and i can't go like this or i can't kind of move

like that and i can't so that's why i'd not used it because it's just really difficult for me to just sit really still just like that mm-hmm i mean what an interesting name i mean oh of course i mean sorry i'm having a moment here moment of seniority shall i i say you might i mean like that um yeah what should are you planning on redoing the andalus

series someday yeah that would be nice that would be i it was it was fun when i did that yeah maybe i could do that someday again that would be interesting so shukran for that i mean you know there's a

there's a an interesting question will maybe someday go into it into a lot more depth and it ties into i guess how we understand um or how we interact or engage with the faith and we have to understand that you see this faith for us it is an interface with god okay

it's not about um [Music] some people turn it into like a very um a a very they rigidify its elements to and bring it down to something about like a textbook exam so to some people this faith they treat it like a textbook exam that it's they there is a yes no it's a binary have i got this answer right what is the

capital of france did i get that right did i get this right this is how they engage and sure if that's how somebody wants to engage with it that's up to them i would say however that this theme it's not about trying to be a textbook exam for you it is about nourishment it's about a relationship with god it's much more dynamic much more enriched and alive it doesn't have to it's not it's more like art

as opposed to mathematics you see that's what it's like and it's it's that expression allah taught him not speech expression so in light of that they would i seen some discussions online and maybe in the future we can cover them in more depth but people were wondering does the term so there this term amine that was

the person's name that this question but this is amin is your name is a mean but as we write like amin amen this term that is used across the abrahamic phase so from the judeo-christian tradition right down into islam so where hebrews christians muslims they all use this amine and there was some this discussion i'm sure if you go on youtube you'll find loads of it the people have have tried to have

have attempted to argue that purportedly this is amon the egyptian sun god amundra and because his name without the vowels could be amen it could be because they don't write the vowels and that the hebrew people the israelites picked this up when they were in egypt as part of the generational development and people have argued that this then took on a meaning with them

and then it was passed from them to the christians and it was passed right through the middle east and and it became this word which means people generally say that so in arabic the linguists say it means it's a it's a ism okay they call it an ism which is a noun that an imperative noun so a noun that has a command to it or a we say command or an imperative in grammar so what that means is istajit

reply please so allah you know allah allah please accept so people have attempted to cast out and and i i would say look these things firstly it's not categorical that the there that this must mean but even if it did even if let's say 3000 years ago from four thousand sorry three and a half thousand years ago from today when the israelites were in egypt that

they did adopt this word let's say if that was the case even and there isn't compelling right now i mean from where we stand yet from what we have of egyptology there isn't compelling proof that this is from that this is an argument that people have put forward and there are quite a few videos about it on youtube and some people seeing it as a tragedy and a betrayal to the faith and shirk and all these kind of things and another saying this is propaganda and all this but the point is that

even if this is of that origin it doesn't matter because words are a social construct see words evolve over time so it doesn't mean that today we may use a word and it may have a similar so it may have meant something slightly different in the past it may today mean something bad it may today mean something good you know today not just today a lot of terms that were so for example people use the term wicked

bad you know as like as positive terms you know that's wicked you backtrack a few generations and that was a negative term so words are they exist language is a social phenomenon it is a social construct there's no such thing as wittgenstein had argued as a private language it doesn't exist language exists only publicly as a social phenomenon an epi phenomenon so the so words over time

may adopt different meanings and they may come to be used in different ways okay so it doesn't matter the point is what it means in this context not what did this word mean so if you take many english words today and you go back just 400 years 500 years you'll see that oh this word is taken from french and this word is taken from latin and it meant something different there and it meant something different here and it means something different there and it does but that's irrelevant that what does it mean today

so that's what's important okay so i i thought it's i was just reminded by um by the name i mean that it doesn't so i thought i'd just shed some words that these things what is relevant is you today and your devotion that your devotion to god you see an a beautiful reminder for that seriously i think it's it's so overwhelmingly well is in the quran where allah says they

ask you about safa and marwah that and allah says you see and if you read the tafsir like kurtobi and different tafasir um if you read fakhruthi narazi i believe and ibn ashur as well but kurtobi i believe the highlights the discussion as well the reason they were asking is because many pagan arabs used to worship certain gods on safawal marwa and especially um what was it is

the two estranged lovers that were on each of these mountain tops or mounts not mountains but mounts hills and they were distanced by the wrath of god so there was this jahili kind of myth that existed and you see so several there were several i don't know it's difficult to say whether they were majority or minority but uh mufassirin like to be another people will say that people some people from the ansar from medina from the sahaba of the prophet islam they um clearly understood this safal

had mythological beliefs associated with it it had these you know these kind of false gods so this verse i think this verse is so beautiful as an axiom in life take it wherever you want that just look at how allah answers this because some people may believe that luke saw al-marwa it goes back to ibrahim al-islam and going through so that's one um narrative associated with it the other

narrative is now it goes back to these two figures who were kind of uh blasphemed profane and they were lovers and they were distanced by the wrath of god and then the pagans used to go between them so now the question is they ask the prophet and allah reveals in the quran you see people when they are saying these things when they are going towards because which people obviously the muslims now because it is the muslims

that were going there when they are going between these nouns when muslims today are using the word amin when muslims today do certain let's say we point towards the qibla when we do certain acts these are these are symbols it's symbols ain't they these are symbols that reflect back or symbolize our devotion to god they in and of themselves nobody worships a mount nobody worships the

kaaba we don't worship the qibla we don't worship these things we don't worship a must-have the quran we worship allah through these means by reciting by praying by pointing but these are symbols whosoever saw these and here what doesn't mean whoever does this voluntarily in arabic the torah can mean voluntarily this means whosoever treated this as a tarah

see if you considered a devotion here in allah take this as seriously a an axiom a canon for life in this verse that allah has given you that whosoever is devoted to god by this by these symbols symbols don't symbols are just symbols you know what you've got somebody could say well this is a book and this is the quran to somebody they're just both books somebody that

doesn't come comes across the quran for the first time it's a book to them somebody sees the kaaba for the first time they see a building they don't know they just let's say they've never understood islam don't know what it is they just see a building a cube-shaped building it's not the thing it's the devotion it's your iman that that sparks that life and allah says

allah now look at this allah is grateful i mean does it get any better than that allah is grateful to you allah doesn't need to be grateful to to anyone allah is grateful why why alim why end it with alim in allah because you might have some question you might have some but what am i doing or what is this person said but you know what if yeah i'm devoted but this person is saying you know i don't

allah knows relax don't worry allah knows so you just concern yourself with the devotion the rest leave it to god so that's i think it's a you know a beautiful lesson from the quran which extends far beyond the ayah in itself and it's it's a it's a cannon it's a car moon for life that we take with us right okay salam

from mongolia wow golden calf much love for the super chat man and wow i'm i'm on it i'm on it mufti saab your hairstyle reminds me of kyle i was a fan of guile back in the days i i you know what i've put it away now i used to have an arcade machine i had one specially built a retro and i used to have street fighter and all those games on it and i used to have it in my library and i moved it actually about i think at the beginning of the lockdown and so

yeah where's you know what guys leave those things alone leave you know what i honestly i don't see any or any benefit i think there's enough of uh you know there's enough hatred in the world as there is let's be a source of love you know we

you've got a certain amount of energy you use it how you want you know if you want to invest it by getting and and you can get embroiled in these things you know what do i think let people be you know if farid wants to do his thing let him do it if other people want to do it let them do it you be a source of your goal a reflection of your commitment okay you otherwise

where does where does this it's nothing but futile yeah i'd like to see you review shahab ahmed's book magnum opus what is islam yes i've actually got that and i was it is a big book though i have to say or is it just daunting because the size of it is like um but yeah so i will inshaallah maybe maybe right so

some say the hindu word um has connection to i mean but i doubt it yeah i don't think so from what i've uh from what i've from what i'm aware of um is not a name of a hindu god um is um i think they use it to mean like hamd the word hamd like like we'll say alhamdulillah like that so they'll use it as the word but if i'm correct i could be i'll have to double check

i believe it's an onomatopoeia that's kind of just developed so it's not that they so this word isn't a word that originally meant that word it didn't originally mean gratitude or praise or but it's through mindfulness that because what happens is in mindfulness and meditation if you take yourself to such a macarthur you there is a vibration in reality and just as the earth has a

vibration and there is a vibration of being and people experience it you know people of the path of consciousness and this is why they and many people uh of the mystics the islamic muslim mystics had said that when the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam before he would often go into the cave and he would go and he would fast for days and he would go there for days and why in a cave why fast and why in those conditions and this and this i do feel is unfortunately a part of islam that many

muslims i'm not saying purposely but they for some reason it's been left unattended to and ignored or but it's such a precious part of islam this mindfulness that the prophet would do this without fail he would and he would prepare his his mind and his soul and there would be uh sensory deprivation light being in the dark and and at times food deprivation in the sense of fasting and then they would be breathing

and this is the state in which the prophet he clears and grounds his soul you see and this is where many muslim mystics have said that when the prophet described entering the state of engaging with wahi in sahil he says it is like the ringing of a bell

like this and this is the the sound that people try to reflect in in many mindful practices that um kind of that humming of non-stop and this hum which some have argued is is it's like the frequency of of being this is if i also understand it correctly where they uh souls hindu mystics developed the term om because it represented the sound like um so it's not actually and then they just use the word to mean

o praise like shukar or hamd that's how i understand it but in islam leaving alone i mean how the hindu yogics did it but in islam many muslims that did focus on this um it's you know it's it's it's mesmerizing and it's wow and and i feel that it's such a if only more people did more research on this because this area of the prophet's life and the prophet's devotion and commitment and um and his his kind of mindfulness you can't deny it it's such a core part

of the prophet's life and it gets eclipsed by all the events that happen afterwards and understandably so because many people ain't too sure because at that time you know they weren't as much maybe with the prophet sallallahu alaihi but many people were i mean many people were his friends and and who are later companions as well so yeah but i feel this is something incredibly important and auring zeb's

[Music] his brother he also writes this in his resala that this this humming of what the uh prophet islam uh would hear this kind of um which is described in bukhari he brings this up as well amongst many other mystics surprisingly in india quite a few did but it's a shame a lot of that indian um muslim heritage is kind of um i don't know if it's found but it's i mean it's i don't know if it's lost

sorry but it's definitely difficult to to access now because in india now unfortunately you know may allah make things easier and by india i mean the whole indian subcontinent islam is really only fashioned by the last 100 to 150 years so really it's just since the british raj since the british declare independence i mean they declared the british raj 1857.

since then islam whatever islam we have from india is pretty much from that time only and the rest is just that almost one thousand years before it's just missing so you occasionally hear somebody say yes you know so even people will speak that you know like shawwali de la weed so we have a few of his works but really a lot of because he's not in a vacuum i mean he's from this whole dilly school and where are the the least colors where are their works where are they things it's all unfortunately see this is why i was saying earlier on

it's so important to be devoted because it's too easy to get derailed into denominational fighting sectarianism to it's too easy and when a person gets into it they get locked and then so much time and energy goes in that that so much height gets lost falls by the wayside and that's unfortunately what happened in the indo-pak scenario because of the infighting and the infighting and the infighting and now islam there is only of these three schools

you know there isn't really any other kind of flavor to islam and all you know arguably arguably um that's a gross generalization but you get the gist right so all right let's take a look

all right so okay let's bring this up all right so bismillah i thought let's speak on risk such an important topic and i thought let's begin speaking of enlightened quotes a quote by mawlana jalal right there before death takes away what

you are given give away what there is to give just a um a kind of wake up quote and it's interesting because it will come back it will tie back to this so keep thinking keep that in the back of your mind that before death takes away what you are given give away what there is to give because truly in giving there is a life you see you bring something to life you also kill a bit of the nufs

you kill a bit of the nubs but you know when i thought about let's cover this topic of risk because it's so important and i thought about giving and receiving it's all very too important it's all incredibly too important to highlight that risk does not have to just mean money okay or food and i wanted to first of all just begin with that put the lay the ingredients out so risk is providence what is

is given to you this kind of divinely granted bestowed providence from god and often people think yeah yeah risk is food it is food that is risk as well nobody's saying that isn't risk is what is written for you in life true risk can also be your goals your ambitions your time is your risk and i thought to exemplify that look how beautifully it is in this hadith about by which where the prophet sallam speaks

of his wife and he says that i was given as a risk i was granted as a risk her love you see even love is from risk and why is that important because sometimes you see people that they haven't been granted

the murder you know that risk is of many categories it doesn't have to be sure money is also risk nobody's denying that having a flashy car is a risk no having nice clothes a nice house having these things is risk having happiness is a risk see this sometimes people forget to tell you having love is risk

that i was granted as a risk her love and i thought that's so important to just begin by just highlighting that risk i know when we think of it sustenance comes to mind and by that we think of nourishment nutrients money we think materialistic terms which nobody's knocking that but these are lower order risk there's higher order risk as well which is emotions that you are

you are you are given as a risk happiness you are given laughter as a risk you're given love you're given the ability to handle emotions as a risk think about that and then with that in mind think about this lesson of it is by giving or it is in giving that we receive that if you want to expand in something try and give it so it could be wealth

it could be emotions it could be happiness it could be laughter it could be love it could be ambition it could be whatever it is you have to give it you have to exert it health you have to exert your health to get more health see success it pulls success like you have to put in you whatever you want you have to spend from that if it's you know if it's uh and it could be at a lower order a lot of things like money and wealth and but it could be our what i would call higher

order a risk which is more the abstract form ideas risk this is all risk and in light of that some quranic guidance now beginning is a very um

there's a very popular verse that you've we've all come across okay now this those of you this is the beginning of jules 12 this is incredibly important why first of all just finishing the ayah

verse 6 now there's a another verse just after it in surah anka booth and we're going to take a look at that but let's just come back to this see sometimes we get worried let's go back to the lower order they're the ones that really bother people isn't it food money wealth my job my career my what's going to happen to me am i going to make that promotion am i going to make this target

am i going to make that deadline am i going to be able to make this payment am i going to be able to make the rent am i going to be able to buy buy that car am i going to be able to to put away that kind of money these things are what concern everyone lower order kind of wealth or money issues often or sustenance there are people who will will i have enough money for food next

month there are people right now as we speak that are rationing that that are thinking maybe of their children first thinking will they have enough this coming month this coming week will they have enough may allah make easy their struggles right but this verse look where allah brings our attention because you're worried you're in that situation you're worried it's natural allah takes

your attention away from you to begin with so the first thing you see you got to understand the mindset you take it away from you you've got reasoning faculties you've got planning capabilities you've got intellectual capacities this is you all the these modalities in your brain to think to plan i know i could do this i could do that i've got these social networks i could reach out to this person do that i could cry over here endeavor over there you can think about the future as though you are living in

the future and planning animals don't have that capacity they just act in the moment from instinct they have to seek out their food are they going to come across it today this is genui generally speaking about creatures in the wild and it could be any kind it could be right down to an ant

all the way to a lion it could be any creature it doesn't it doesn't think right next week tuesday okay what am i doing i know i'll head over to this place it doesn't have the capacity to think like that they think iconically in icons and and they and they act out of instinct what are you

i am sustaining the entire entirety of creatures every creature it's it's a risk is already written from god now you think okay the ant the beetle the leopard the wolf everything everything it's now where has allah placed in sun in this category

you have a much higher calm in the eyes of god it doesn't mean that you're always a better entity some humans are capable of you know of abysmal atrocities that even animals wouldn't do animals don't set up concentration camps animals don't nuke one another animals don't do certain atrocities that humans do but in cern as a species is much more beloved to god has that mccomb he's been they he and she here he is in they've been

granted consciousness with a capital c so you go straight from illa allah remembering that look you if you think god can sustain all these creatures have a little faith for the love of god you know have a little faith and then see how the verse comes straight back

now this is a fascinating two incredibly fascinating words mustafar can mean a place of settling or like dwelling as they've said or mustada a place where it's laid to rest or put away or so these words can mean different things so as in mustafar where is mustoda maybe it's gold

now you think okay it is all but in a clear book now this kitab meaning it is all laid out destined but what's important here this is speaking about the animals coming straight back to you why you because you're worried about risk allah is reminding you but he knows your settled state and your goal what are you doing to get to the

mustaldah you see you have to take those steps it is yeah allah will give him but he knows also this guy's sitting back give me give me allah will give but you have to you have to put the effort in

you know she's heavily pregnant she's still reminded shake the tree shake the tree why allah could just make the dates and and that fall down they could just why as a reminder for mankind that you must manchetta wajat in arabic you have to strive and then it will come to you so you're not just going to sit there and you know it's like just come food ain't going to come flying to you you have to take the steps

forget about people god knows really what your where your goal is and where you currently are at and what you are doing and we all fall short but this is such a beautiful reminder a very popular verse i thought let's share that and from surah ankabut verse 60 which is has a a different nuance to it

check this out people you're going to love this right and how many creatures are lie saying how many creatures do you see it carrying its risk around on its back honestly you know when you think about this you're going to absolutely love it how many creatures do you see because

sometimes you could be worried a person could be worried that look i don't know what's going to happen what's going to happen next month what's going to happen next week what's going to happen in two months time am i going to get kicked out of a job am i going to find this job am i going to allah says do you see these creatures any of them carrying their risk around their button now now look at this

saying that how many of these creatures now notice allah didn't say no creature ever because that wasn't the point because yes there are creatures that do obviously they stuck away and they do things but allah was bringing your attention to the general every day creatures don't plan like you they don't have that luxury to kind of do things like well generally hey i'm glad carries its food around with it you know i might get hungry on the way i'll carry this and i mean they might carry it from point a to b but they don't generally like human beings going on a journey you know i'll

tell you i'll take a few sandwiches with me and i'll take a few of these i'll take a few drinks and i'll take and how many creatures do not do that god said but along the way god feeds them he's got your back too just have a little faith that's and i think this is such an important um and why when allah ends it with wahoo aleem why because people cry out in dua

to god and they think sometimes does god even hear me preempting that allah is saying see it begins with samia begins with hearing he is all hearing why because he knows you're already crying out thinking does god even hear me allah is saying he's all hearing why because the next thing you're thinking is but does he know that next month i'm going to bloody lose this job or i'm going to be out of a wage or i'm going and he's all going

taking you back to the beginning of the verse do you see these creatures carrying the risk around see them with packed lunches see them on ubereats you don't allah sustains them immediately follows it by he sustains you too sometimes you forget that it happens you forget it but god's bringing you back in honestly such an amazing beautiful reminder i i had to and with that this

just in line with that these two verses which i thought are so important uh one from surah hasha verse 9 and starting from here there's some before it that um let me just bring this up um and these this is allah speaking about people people who have faith and is describing this now

that people you see when they have something sure you can love it but they don't find themselves obs they don't find their hearts occupied with what they have this is what i want to share this part that they will prefer over themselves even if it had in it some you know some suffering for them some it may not be a lot but maybe some suffering

and whosoever is protected from that ah that kind of stinginess of their soul for uh and the final verse which we've covered before from surah talaq 3 and i'm just going to come back to the the the one above he provides from where people least expect and whosoever relies on god allah sees through for them now coming back to the the the verse from surah hashar

that why let me give you an example we've all at some stage in life had something no it could be just something we're looking forward to a small delight it doesn't have to be huge it could be something to eat something sweet or something you just got hold of you thought oh my god i haven't had that in ages oh my god and you've just got one and you think and you're just looking forward to eating you know these or maybe to drinking it or to maybe just something small but but you have a certain amount of joy

tied up with it it happens in life you know these little joys that we have and maybe at that point somebody like your child maybe or your friend or your somebody said ah that's oh you've got that and like oh and let's just say in this situation oh you just had one i'm sure we've all been in this situation and the first thing you do is like oh it's your child you'll be like you have it you have it or if it's a friend or someone you have it yeah you you have it you have and yo

you prefer over yourselves you see we all do this we all do this and to some extent even if there is a bit of khasasa you know there's like oh man i look forward to that all day and ah there could be a little joy in life this happens you know it's no it's relatively easy it's relatively easy doing that for your own child for your friend even it's easy relatively you know you feel

ah it's okay but it ain't easy doing that for a third person you know when there isn't that emotional bond a stranger you're just about to eat something that you oh yeah i couldn't wait oh it's a hot day i've got this ice cream oh yes a stranger comes up homeless person it ain't easy there isn't that emotional bond with this person it's not your child or your friend or your family member or your na you know it's not it's who the hell are you see this

is where the struggle gets real sure you have a choice i'm not saying you need to give that away it's a tiny tiny minuscule struggle minuscule it doesn't even exist in the in the serious scheme of things but you see this is a sign of true true true true faith allah you know in the hadith it says it's a thing of taste experience and it is in giving

that you receive remember that that whatever it is whatever sacrifices with devotion are made if it is your time allah will bless your time you will find all of some things getting done in your time you know sometimes you give time and you've got a bunch of other things to do and you think that i'm never going to be able to get but things get done you think how did all this stuff get done i would just someday get super productive i don't know but it could be in emotions you

extend compassion to someone care love and you find it building within yourself you extend knowledge you find your learning it's amazing isn't it it's paradoxical in fact there's a saying in arabic that is a student is to learn twice roughly speaking so because when you're imparting it is by giving that you receive and it's the same thing with

with many aspects you give people happiness you know this is something that we i think we all want happiness but we forget about giving it extending it to other people that's a huge thing as well you know it's think about that sometimes and i think yeah so these verses have an immense lesson and to to really remind us that not only that risk is not just restricted to sustenance that is an

important part of risk but it goes beyond that providence this divine providence is in in anything it could be in emotions in understanding in knowledge in compassion in humanity in time in you name it it is all ultimately bestowed upon us and going back to that quote of uh mawlana jalaluddin that give before death that you know from what you've been given that you might as well give from it before

before you go anyways oh it's going to you've got this opportunity but may allah bless us all it is truly i have to i think it's always important to remember as well that there are many people and we're all included but i'm sure many people in you know much more dire circumstances that are struggling and may allah make things easy for them i mean people let me take a look at some of your messages uh spread the good vibration you never know who might need some shukran mahmoud abdullah

bless you i mean uh clear that's me the emotional one oh god bless you god bless you uh uh can can i have a copy of can i have your copy of noah there was here that and why and that commentary on the sahih from egypt that commentary on the sahih which commentary on the sahih from egypt and

my copy of nowhere was here that have i got two copies of noah that was here that i don't think i have you know there's my no idea was here that i can't see another copy of it i think at one point i did have a copy i'm pretty sure i gifted it away i'm pretty sure i did um so obviously if i do have a spare copy you're more than welcome so

um hope you're good shukran shukran i am likewise uh please bring raza rasa has quite a few razas uh love you with all my heart and soul shukran shukran love you too yeah uh-huh

no you have no you have one just give before you go [Laughter] yeah if it'll benefit you tell lawyer throw the volumes at him somebody throw them how many volumes are they you know this no let me tell you a little story about this i had this is going back to

maybe the i don't know the year 2001 or something 2002. so in between i had uh so i'd left damascus and i'd gone to um gone to pakistan and i was doing my hiff and i did my fifth and then so that's in the late 90s into the early 2000s but then i went back to damascus against for a little while to recite the whole quran and get jazza in the quran and when i was there i did a bit more shopping on maliki so i remember buying like the tortilla madarik of uh

called the yelp and so i went back to pakistan now and then i i was reading through so i was in karachi and now i think i'd studied the one two years or whatever it was but so it must have been like i think maybe 2002 something like that um and i was going through i must have gone through most of that which is a book on biographies of maliki scholars because i was really keen you see the thing is you know when i became maliki um i didn't you see sometimes there's like an equation in nature an algorithm

which somehow works like the more access you have to something the less drive you have to attain it or obtain it and the less access you have the more drive you have i don't know but i i found this to be so often the case in life and not just with me with people i feel it's like a an axiom of nature that so since i didn't have that many malikis around me and there was a maliki scholar that

amusti uh mufti salim in the madrasa but there wasn't generally maliki's and generally hanafi thing and so my drive to learn about the maliki method was like on steroids like i was so keen to learn like i was like a sponge when it came to maliki stuff i would just learn man i couldn't get enough of it like because i i felt i needed i don't know because i didn't have access to as much so i was so much more hungry for it

is a biography book on maliki's colors so people would often ask me in the early days oh who are like some big malikis and who are they so i felt i needed to know everything like i felt like you see it wasn't easy for me to say oh wait there i'll just ask him so i didn't have that luxury so i felt i have to know i have to know all the big scholars i have to know the names i have to know where they were their stories i have to know their books i have to know what they did and so i would just read really read these biographies and not make notes and not highlight and so um so i was reading in tertibal matarik

by qadha yad where he speaks of ibn abi said who is the dawn of the maliki method you know the huge she's known as young malik from peter 1 in tunis and he's like you're talking like maybe three centuries after um no he dies in the yeah so about three centuries after malik so and he is one of the early figures who start summarizing texts and he has the resale which is incredibly popular but he also had the kind of and but he's huge and he's he's this firm figure within

the maliki method and he has this book so whilst i'm reading in the thirteenth it says that you know and he had this kitab was the rarities and the the extras the additional kind of court citations in it above what is in the madawana which is the main like a main book of

the malcolm from the other mother texts so i was like and then cardiac says wow and he praises the book and he says well you know very few malakia could rival this book of his and it's like an epic i was like whoa and i was so excited like oh and i felt like i wish i could have i wonder if this book actually exists and it's early days for me as well i'm learning all of these and and i just remember reading and thinking wow and he writes that in his day and age i think it's he says it was a hundred volumes other yards right if i recall correctly

this is like going already about 20 years ago so i might be but i recall it as he wrote like a hundred volumes it was in um so in that coming year or so i was incred i'm in karachi i'm in this book shop and this guy used to the this guy used to have this bookshop close to the other so i was in jamaica but there used to be another mother called binori town which was in a place called guru mandir um and that that that's the classic kind of binoria and my one that

i was at was a spin-off by somebody called mufti you know allah bless him he's passed away and so in that area you had a whole book shop kind of like you know like a whole street of bookshops so this one guy used to bring these random arab arabic books and he used to go to blochistan get them from iran smuggle them through or something i don't know and just just randomly sell them so i'm in this bookshop and i used to love going there sometimes i'd spend like a whole night there and i just i buy my books like randomly like i have to do you have to just leave me in the bookshop and i'll just kind of walk around like and i'll just be like hmm

wow that's interesting okay put that there and i'll be like wow and this is how i buy my bookshops i mean this is how i buy my books at bookshops this is how i buy my books and so i'm there in this bookshop just sitting there just lounging and just taking and i'll read through this and i read through that and this is how i used to also acquire more knowledge because i would i would pick up a book and the first thing i would do when i pick up a book is i would see who the author is so i'd go into the quick intro and learn just a bit about him who's this author his name is let's say whatever dino qarafi whatever he is he's from this century i'll probably

might read who were his teacher students he lived in egypt okay now flip to the index um or the contents page usually it's an index in the arabic book what what does this book cover it covers these things okay that's interesting let's read this one particular thing so i've read some so now i've got a like like i've got a map of this book in my brain now and then i might randomly flick to a random thing and read something now i've put it away now i've learned about this person i know he wrote this book and i know this book roughly contains these kind of themes if i need to come back to it ever so this is how i often kind of built up my map of of learning when it

came to islamic stuff so now i was sitting there in this bookshop and i'm moving these books and behind me in this pile on the floor as i'm sitting on the floor i read i know what it get away from me i need that book i bought that book i was so excited honestly i have to say certain

things in life have brought me such excitement that it's weird sharing it because it sounds so odd so like that books used to be one of those things that i would get so but that because it was impossible i just read about this like let's say so many months before and i've read about it as in not assuming it's in publication and it was just recently at that time brought into print by dal harp but yeah it was amazing so i still have it and allah see but this is where i say that the more you get in life the more you lose some of that fire

and and and that's kind of sad as well like i i see it in myself as well like i see that like as i you see at that time i never used to have so much money to buy so many things and books were expensive and i was a student of knowledge and i used to really envy uh people that had a lot of money and compiled books and i because i really wanted so many books at that time this was to just just gobble them up when i used to be at the bookshop i should read what's this what's this and i just make these maps in my mind of these books and i used to so like think wow some people

are so lucky that they have all this money to buy all this stuff and you know it doesn't mean anything to them like they're not interested in it and and then with time you know allah gives you and you have that capacity and you you can buy books like unlimited to but then that it loses that fire and that spark it doesn't have that same excitement you know who is it

that that first love what don't ask me for that first love that's difficult it's it's it's life i guess it's life but there's uh hmm there's a melancholy in that let's that's quick scoping a book yeah you know why i think i the lord provides he does he does allahu akbar

yeah that is a way to scope things i guess that you know i think it's interesting when we can anchor things back in our own life because our life is like to us it's like a story or a movie i guess or series and it's interesting that now when i think of that you can anchor certain things in adulthood in childhood like i remember when i was uh in primary school so um [Music] things back then weren't really so

glorious as you can imagine and it was like the 80s and so but i think they were slightly exceptionally more difficult for probably some of us than they were for others and i remember that see we weren't really allowed to like we didn't have much luxuries and we never used to get to watch many movies and we used to watch some my my dad used to what often watch bollywood so you'd watch probably a movie every night or every other night this is why my uddu we picked up urdu as

kids because we used to that was the only thing we could do was just i suppose watch that movie now english movies seldom like maybe it was christmas time and we this movie is coming on the tv or we managed to watch a movie but we never really were allowed like we weren't allowed to ever get a movie that was in english but kids at school would speak about movies like they would say oh have you watched this movie oh i remember die hard came out or these are the movies you know have you watched rambo have you watched this and maybe as a one-off we'd get to watch a movie like an english one

like maybe somebody would come to our house and they'll kind of watch it with i don't know maybe my dad's friends might bring him and they might watch it we might watch a movie like rambo or something otherwise we never used to have that luxury and often what my uh i me and my my brother so it was only a year older than me or so and we had to go to the video shop to get these movies for my for my dad and so we were just kids but we used to go there and we had to go bring them and bring them back so when we were there what i would do is i used to just read in that day and age

they used to have the old movie boxes so i just read the movies and the description and i just like read the quotes they used to always have like an epic quote you know they would say lightning never strikes twice they were wrong like these kind of quotes and i would read that and i'd read the story at the back and then i would just pretend that i've watched the movie and so you see so in school when kids would say oh have you watched this i said oh yeah yeah i've watched it you know in this this would happen and this would happen and because i've read all these kind of things and this was my way of kind of socially

keeping up to speed with the with the class or with kids because other kids they would have watched stuff and and it's interesting how you develop a certain mindset i suppose navigating through your world as a child because i must have been i don't know eight or nine or something but and then you can see that in different ways and later on in life like even when i'm then learning about these books and stuff in many ways it's like a reflection of this younger act as a kid you know doing doing that with

like movies and learning this in order to learn in order to amazing huh how life um how it kind of just how things are sequenced and patterns where they emerge and what chapter is connected to what chapter allah all right so yeah let's let's see what's this mufti with rise on uh of attacks on muslim communities in the west and in south asia including concentration cups

do you predict another holocaust i don't predict a holocaust of that kind of scale of the nazis um [Music] i have hope in humanity do not give up hope do not despair

you're not allowed to do that okay and i do generally i genuinely as well um not generally i genuinely have faith in the betterment of humanity like i do believe that humanity it kind of goes off track but it has that heart in it to to always come back and i believe it will so yes we have seen the rise of right-wing populism and things like there's a kind of fascism um but there's all but there's voices that condemn them there's voices everywhere that condem this wherever it happens and

may allah make things easy for these people i mean right somebody says i missed a super chat let me see uh mufti pakistan india and bangladesh population area massive why can't the governments introduce contraception i don't think me answering that question

it's going to affect the population control or dynamics of any country you see i yeah i would feel that there you know these these things are more kind of social a collective kind of unconscious and a kind of zeitgeist they feel of a social collective of people there's a mixture of things in there so for example there will be cultural values religious values uh

educational issues how educated people are accessibility um resources because you know if the if they're i mean if you don't have what you need then and if it's not distribution of these resources allocation um there's corruption i mean this there's a lot of issues um that are kind of

yeah that are going on and and they're not always in all muslim countries so not all muslim countries as you've clearly highlighted the indian subcontinent you've not you know it's not all muslim countries are like that so it's not that for example i don't know let's say tunis is out of control in population it's not and i don't know whether to be honest i agree with out of control is the right word i i do believe that um as elon musk says i kind of agree with him that i think it's a myth that we are overpopulating the earth

i do believe in that but i also accept that there ought to be you see the overpopulation is a myth that said it shouldn't on many occasions people family planning is a different discussion so not everybody that's family planning in fact i would feel most people that are family planning are not family planning based on the earth is being overpopulated with they are family planning in pers in relation to their own lives

so for example let's say somebody thinks that well you know okay we've got married let's think you know these couple of years we're going to be focusing on this um we're not going to focus on kids because we need to sort this out that out this out then i think we're at a right age when we will kind of or i don't want to have kids at this age i want to have it a bit later on and now this is a person's own perspective now some people may say that's right some people may say that's wrong but that's their own choice there is a multiplicity of views if somebody feels that that's haram then

they that's to them they shouldn't do it these people that are doing it clearly will be following the other opinion that they feel it's it's okay to do that so then that is a a different discussion because many of these places maybe they are having children they don't want to have the children but then they're thinking oh you know it just happens and then it keeps happening because if as you can imagine and then they don't then they just struggle they they don't know what to do so you'll get people that will have

so many kids and they will think and then a lot of them the whole thing and this becomes a very intricate discussion then because it's got so many nuances to it because people will then bring in the equation of destiny people will bring in the equation of risk people bring in many equations but you see amongst all of these as well allah has given you see you would never know how life would be unless you took that path see you only know how it is because of the path you took so such it is and such it was always meant to be

since that was the path you took it's amazing you know it's uh it's like in quantum physics you see that the field the quantum field is an area of potential and from it um [Music] you will get um properties will emerge but how they emerge where they emerge consciousness will have some element in dictating that so i feel yeah these things should be but i don't agree in the myth of

overpopulating the earth i don't think i do agree with elon musk that that's just a myth but i do agree that people should do things sensibly not be irresponsible not be kind of uh just blame it on god you know don't do the blame it on god thing because god gave you capacity he gave you the intellect he gave you reason

he knows where you are and what the goal was and what did you do to get there so and then the problem with this is because the whole topic is is tied into sex that that kind of complicates everything because in the indo-pak and i think this is maybe i could be wrong but i think this is more so um

i don't know about bangladesh how sensitive they are to the to the topic of sex i i get the impression that they ha they are less sensitive and more natural towards it i could be wrong on that but this is the impression but the pakistani and especially the northern india that kind of region they it is just an utter taboo so the problem with that then is anything to do with it you're not allowed to talk about it

so if you can't talk about it you can't deal with it you know and then you have horrible incidents you know you have people say well you know this is but then people will do things now people in places like that they in pakistan i remember they would like women would end up getting pregnant maybe they just had sex with someone out of wedlock or something and they would just literally throw the baby literally like tie the baby up and chuck it in a canal i remember my uncle may allah bless his afterlife he rescued a baby from this

from this sewage canal in a sack because people said they could hear crying he was the kind of he was like one of the inspectors of that um i mean that that's the vicinity he lived in as well but so he rescued it and the baby had been i think it was it was like a relatively newborn he's thinking it is an amazing such a cute and beautiful baby and um it was this boy that they had the mother had wrapped the boy and she tied him in the sack so um tight and chucked him that it that my

uncle paid for his kind of medical intervention they had to do all these things he couldn't because the the way that strapped the stomach so tight on the thing he remained constipated for weeks and things but my uncle was telling me and he had he paid like so much money had doctors look at him he said that he he took him home like he took care of personally and he said that i will adopt him if he said if he's you know inshallah survives baby didn't survive it died after i think like maybe a few weeks or something they just couldn't because they had kind of tore the organs inside

it was too excruciating now that's horrible you know but there is a that is the verse of the quran and the child will be will ask over what crime was i killed there is a guilt on whoever did that presumably the parent but then there is a guilt on society why was she put in a position to do that you don't walk away guilt scot-free

you don't walk away like angels you created an environment where she would be forced to do that no person in their right mind would do something like that would bear a child for nine months and then rip its organs together and chuck it into a sewage canal no person would do that but you created an environment with it where she for whatever bizarre reason did something like that everybody holds some responsibility so this is um these things are incredibly complex may allah make things easy

yeah and and i think sometimes we have to this is why there was um in pakistan there was a great philanthropist and he had a center where he would say that look if you don't want your baby don't kill it leave it here and we will he had like orphanages and things like that and they had like a section where you could just leave a baby and go and and it was disappointing that some of the clergy you know may allah guide these people they they would condemn him

and say that he's encouraging zina you see and they would curse him and swear at him and this is not you know it's you have to see a bigger picture that whosoever saves a single soul allah it is as though they have saved monk kind now

let me quran is literally false but metaphorically true i don't um categorically no that's not the case the quran is true um to say it's literally not true i don't know what would give you that suggestion maybe like a false reading of the quran maybe like a misinterpretation of the quran might appear to certain people not to be true but the quran is

categorically true maybe some people haven't understood some verses and that's why it appears like that to them the quran see people you have to understand something and i said this in a discussion once with um with um i believe it's with a few uh ex-muslims i believe it was with abdullah gondal and also with i think vedu vids and i'm not sure if we discuss that when i discussed it with hari sultan that you see when you say true what do

you mean by true and i'm sorry but you don't get a monopoly on that definition what do you mean by true when a person says this is true what do they mean what what how do you define true and and then when i said this some of the people they they got rattled oh what's that supposed to mean it means exactly what i'm asking what does true mean objectively true scientific empirically true philosophically true rationally true logically true perceptibly true

symbolically true metaphorically true literally true what what is truth now you may say well truth is simple but that's because your mind is just so simple that it doesn't perceive that if i told you i'm wearing a blue shirt is that true objectively it's not true because color doesn't exist it's just simply an interpretation by your visual faculty the visual cortex is simply reading a certain a reflection of light and a wavelength in a certain way that there's no absolute categorical truth to

that sure this and there's an inter-subjective truth that we've arrived at it's not absolute it's not categorical but it's intersubjective it does the job it's good enough do people die is that a truth yeah it's true from a particular world cellular death does consciousness die

does it how do you arrive at that being true you know we so when people's reduce it to and a binary like that it's really just indicative of a a restrictive mindset you've got the questions wrong or you've not understood the questions yourself say well is scripture true of course it's true well what is truth you're saying well what kind of truth are you measuring it empirically like with the test tube is this what you're doing is it's not a science book the quran is scripture

it's expression it's art it's the way art is kind of received scripture is received like that it's an ex experiencing sure it has um it has a message in there it teaches about certain things it teaches about god teaches about people well you know you could say well you could say well okay did these people exist that's a question that's a historical question now you're speaking my historical truth yes we would say these people existed now how you could say well there's no historical record of abraham having existed fine but that doesn't deny that

he existed so at most you could say that the you know there is no you could say well history hasn't preserved ibrahim alaihissalam since he was four thousand years ago well there's no surprise there we're not expecting history to have preserved him it's an oral tradition you should read the book the edge of memory that speaks about the oral tradition coming down from from at least the law from the younger dryers almost from at least 10 000 years you have the aboriginal um research that is done in the various um various kind of subcultures ethnographic research that is done in the edge of memory they speak of

oral traditions of memories being passed down often as narrative sometimes just descriptively for anything between five to ten thousand years and in some cases allegedly more how does that even happen how do you explain that you see you you just kind of dumbfounded you don't know how to answer it the aboriginal cultures when they would explain that they used to be land there and then now we know there was landi and they would explain exactly although they would have a mythological version to explain what happened but it was the the kind of younger dryers the mini ice

age that rose and and it sunk but that's like over 10 000 years ago how did they have that story still so i think sometimes we have to we have to humble ourselves in i get it that way we're passionate to know the truth i get that but we have to humble ourselves you see we we are not even a blip on this radar so it's yeah

uh mufti advice for a um new muslim after reading and having a basic knowledge of the quran and watching your channel where would a person go next any books or the scholars you could recommend uh sure excellent question um right scholars wow there's so many um obviously learning from people like um sheriff hamza yusuf i i would say sure i mean he's always giving a wonderful message of um of kind of

of knowledge and growth and compassion i would say when it comes to learning if it's possible to learn arabic that would go that would go mild seriously you've got light years in your development um a person it is a journey they have to kind of pick and they have to kind of learn certain things i would say if you could start learning arabic it would really help you massively you know it's just so beneficial because everything is nested in the arabic language then there's things like learning about the quran

um the quran uh has many kind of snippets on the quran and he i have i've i haven't heard many of the recent ones but once from before he had in great depth and detail so if you want to listen to the quran that's definitely something he could from and one thing that knack would often do which was uh really good is that he would keep it non-sectarian so there you go that's something um [Music] which are the

uh double father gives is definitely a great voice of reason um i would say look learn wherever don't don't be restricted to who i just named or people i to be honest i don't know when when people say name someone it gets difficult because i'm not up to date and i don't watch these people's like maybe like a lecture a clip might come up like let's say for example something came up of um let's say i don't know i mentioned knack so let's say uh ustad noman li khan's clip came up and i watched it now

it might just be one off like something comes up on youtube and i watch one but i'm not up to date with stuff so maybe i've now mentioned a scholar now i'm not watching the material and so it becomes difficult for me to say because then people might say oh well you know i watched this thing and this person said this and then they hold me to account it's like well i'm not responsible so and then i don't know then they might say well you recommended him so this is why i have to kind of caveat things by saying look just go to anyone wherever your heart settles there is a beautiful hadith where the prophet sallallahu salaam he says

about goodness is what okay that what your albert that this is what your heart and soul will find tranquility in so if you come across something you find it you think wow you know this is uh i like this and it gives me peace then that's wonderful these are i think for yeah i don't know i i struggle to because of these reasons if i'm being honest it's just these reasons i don't know who to say because i don't know what people are doing currently and for all i know somebody they might be in the middle of some kind of a campaign about

something and i've mentioned them and people say oh you know so i have to just be reticent you know yeah so but just keep look there is so much so much available if you do constructive learning like you learn about let's say the arabic language now that you could dedicate 12 months to and that's done okay so and then you've got access to the quran yourself at least at a reasonable level not maybe advanced but reasonable so that will open up a whole new world

then in the second year you can build that up by the third year you will be reading these texts yourself you won't even need these scholars you won't even need people like me you'd be reading yourself right so um

what are your rights so yeah beginner tv is pretty awesome they do have uh as far as i'm aware um nak did used to run these arabic courses from his tv thing i don't know i've had a lot of people praise them and say they were really good in the past um i do believe so that because he you know he was very committed i haven't seen him myself but i've heard a lot of praise about them so you can check them out i'm i know that oh in fact you know what let me since i'm saying some names since

i've said some anyway there is sacred texts institute sacred texts institute or syllabus sacred texts institute i think but it's in the uk and that has a sajad s j double a d now i could definitely 100 vouch for sheikh sajad he is uh definitely somebody very grounded very knowledgeable and and on point like i i know he's not involved in anything as far as i'm aware and he never says anything that's out of

order and he's he's very in fact he's very kind of reserved on certain things but he's very profound in his learning so there's a place see now that you reminded me i'll definitely uh recommend if reaching out to sacred texts institute he's the scholar i can definitely i don't know i'm sure they've got others but him there i can definitely say yeah that's a solid teacher well grounded all round you know like whether it's going to be history whether it's going to be theology philosophy philip

another person if you're interested in maliki stuff i would say the iqbal who is on facebook as muhammad iqbal which is going to be like an i know an impossible name to find on facebook but maybe um if you check one of my mind traps i'm sure i must have a link for him because one of my early mind traps is to him but i'll try and maybe leave a link or something to his facebook page in maybe the description and he but he just teaches uh because he keeps a low profile but he teaches maliki filk and that's for people interested in maliki he's incredibly well grounded he

yes and and he's somebody who is he is an absolute gem i have to say you know i i'm very humbled in his presence and um yeah so these are people i would definitely in addition to that i he has an institute i think it's called a salaam institute but he's somebody very see these are people like who i could 100 know that these people on you know that like they are this kind of source of of energy that is grounded and they

this these people like who are mentioned like sheikh siddique well you see the whole thing always beams compassion like i know that they will always be going towards the light of compassion that's what they're gravitating towards so that is enough to just have trust on because they're knowledgeable anyway so yeah so these people i hope that helps actually

much love for the super chat um is islam supposed to be easy or is it normal to feel like you have to make huge sacrifices um i think islam the deen is meant to complement your life and not impede it you see so the deen is not meant to be difficult in my perspective people may disagree some people may say that deen is meant to be about hardships to me the deen is not meant to be about hardships it's meant to be about it's meant to complement your life and not impede it but life will have difficulties

you see so it's not the deen is the light that is shining on the path the path is a stony path that's it so you have to the path is rocky it's rocky terrain that's life there'll be some smooth some up some down the deen is like the light it's the moon shining down giving you that light okay to me it's not meant to be difficult that would be like clouding eclipsing it um to some people they may feel that gives them meaning and the deen is meant to be difficult but really it's not

um imam shatterby has a whole section in his mothercard where he he's he says that people who seek out hardship he says seeking out hardship in and of itself as hardship he says is forbidden in islam surprisingly his opinion seems to be counter culture even though he's addressing it as a mainstream view he says that hardships happen because life happens and your reward is more immense but to seek out hardships is he argues forbidden in islam and so it's a person shouldn't

so for example well let me give an example let's say a person thinks i know um like let's say uh i'm going to like i have a choice let's say i've got an injury and i've got an injury on my body and and i think well you know what i'm going to do i'm going to do but i have here the islam tells me to do team let's say the doctor said no if you wash it you could get infected but i say but so what if i get infected i'll suffer

and suffering will be forgotten i'll put up with this you know this is ah my iman that's not iman that is just lacking in a true understanding of islam okay allah wants you to take the other options so allah has created them we didn't come up with it allah tells us about in the quran so it's almost like you're you you you're coming from a place of love i get it for for greater sacrifice

but it's misplaced your love is okay so all right let me just check what's going on all right so let's all right people i thought let's

let's go to a snippet from the seerah allahu akbar in light of this topic people which is about risk divine providence and it is about that that by giving and in giving it is that we receive from god in light of this let's come to a personality from the lifetime of the prophet

and i'll just tell you a brief bit about him he's somebody who is older than the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam he was very well known amongst the uh amongst the sub clans of quraysh his name is those of you that remember when we mentioned just earlier today when we spoke about the prophet saying he was granted he was as risque the love of his wife

so that is the same so she is the aunt of hakim so this is who he was and he was from this if you remember even had a business she was from very prosperous and well-to-do family and so this whole clan were well known and there were a few families that before islam when the kaaba was there they had that they had like an absolute behind the scenes pass so they could go into the kaaba not every person could just go you know in jahiliya days not every person could

just go into the kaaba they were only the prestigious families and hakeem family so his arm and so on these people they could go in there so they were those select families and some people have said that uh um that his mother when she she was in there and she went into labor and gave birth inside the ka'ba so hakeem was born this is before islam way before islam and he's older than the prophet he's some say maybe eight or ten years older than the prophet sallallahu alaihi islam he was born in fijo phil gabba inside uh the kaaba he was born

and so he was somebody of opulence and he was and there's no any and he grew up he was popular in makkah and um he's one of those people he he didn't embrace islam straight away he prior to the prophet um receiving prophethood he was a good friend of the prophet salallahu i'm not saying he was always with the prophet but he was a good friend he was older slightly older than the prophet and he had a good bond with him and he was somebody very well to do himself the

prophet as well uh would trade and was a merchant but hakim ibn hissam he was quite established and you know people looked up to him he was quite charming amongst quraish when the prophet left and began his dawah and began prophethood and then was in makkah hakeem seems to kind of withdraw he doesn't really um he still likes the prophet but he doesn't embrace the message himself then the prophet migrates to medina and he did he does have a soft spot for the prophet in fact there's an incident where he

travels to medina once you see because he is um quite well to do and he's quite you know he's got his he's got opportunities and stuff and and he buys this very expensive suit so a suit for them was this uh what they would call a hula and it was a bit like a kami's kind of thing and it was a like a um like a sarong a nizar torti that they would uh were underneath so he he he buys this um expensive um kind of garment which apparently is sold by

like somebody some royalty uh the yazin or somebody and he buys it and he comes and he gifts it to the prophet but he's not a muslim and the prophet says to him that i don't i can't accept it as a gift and the prophet says to him that look we're in very critical times i can't like i can't be in debt because there's been wars between quraysh of makkah and medina you know this is it's not pleasant times the war could erupt again at any point and the prophet salallahu

teaching us look at this point even teaching us character the prophet said look i can't and he said i brought it all this way and it's an outstanding suit and the prophet said to him okay let me buy it off you allah you know what lie this so look at this this is the we're just digressing here look at this snippet the brother said let me bite off you then you know i can't be held in a favor not not with these looming circumstances it's just not right because there's like a cold war standoff going on and i can't

be i can't do that so he allows the prophet to bite and the prophet bought it and you know one of the reasons as well you see the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam wasn't himself he never condemned people wearing luxurious kind of items and clothing but himself he wasn't of he wasn't drawn to that world and the prophet knew that i'm not going to wear it you see and if it's mine i'm just going to gift it and if i give this person's gift it may offend him so let me purchase it

then it's truly mine and and the prophet does actually he gifts it and he gives it and then there's this whole incident where um some person is um usama tivna zade is wearing it and hakeem and his arm actually sees him and they have this altercation but hakeem is giving you some backdrop to him at the fatah makkah the liberation of makkah he embraces islam before the prophet sallal islam arrives in makkah but when they are when the muslims are on their way and you can see here there's a a quote as well

that just under his where he says his name in the center so he says that um he said you know there's four people prominent people who i have this thing in me that i feel that they are removed from the pagan practices and i really have this kind of hope that they will embrace islam and he says and from them is hakim

this is before the prophet has reached mecca and when so before the prophet reaches he had always had a liking for the prophet and when he hears that the prophet is coming and now maybe circumstances will change he thinks you know what i'm this this is it's high time i i need to embrace this message so he comes out to the prophet and sends the message out that he embraces islam before the prophet even arrives at makkah this is why he's one of the people that the prophet says when he enters makkah and he's offering sanctuary to people and the famous statement that

whosoever enters the house of abu sufyan is is secure and whosoever enters he knows something on another side note here learn how to engage people through the seerah of the prophet salallahu you know people these were people of importance they weren't just anybody's you know abu sufyan was a person of high standing amongst his people

hakim ibn hisam was a person of high standing even though he was very loving towards the prophet abu sufyan was very anti the prophet and sometimes circumstances make us put us in a position where we are against someone maybe in our heart of hearts we don't have issues with them but circumstances have made it so change the equation look how the prophet taught you just change it because you see diff you know it's as as winston churchill said he said

when they were trying to defend the the suez uh suez canal and they were and then they end up attacking the and facing quite a bit of a defeat and he says that um he says that defeat is one thing humiliation is another you see because it's one thing just losing but being insulted and degraded this is something unnecessary and it is a totally different genre

remove that from the equation abu sufyan who hates he's been he hates the prophet at that point he's in this position where he's in the rival he's the arch nemesis what does the prophet do gives him respect see wouldn't have expected that i say the pro he whosoever enters his house is safe sure people are going to rush there but

who is who does that give prominence to and respect to and honor to to the person whose house it is everybody's rushing to my head take me and take me and take me in i'm all of a sudden in a very noble position and i didn't expect it you see compassion and respect you give respect you see that risk whatever you give you get

it could have backfired you know people say well it could have backfired sure you never you never lose anything by giving respect the prophet said for solidifying that bond between him and hackie and any any and this it works i'm telling you because the hearts are created in such a way that love melts you honestly love will melt you like nothing else will melt you

you'll feel that i can't wow you know especially when you least expect it that is it is it will shake you to your core and recreate you in better form honestly i tell you it's one of the most amazing things i have to say one of the things that really kind of re i brought my world to a an existential review was the amount of love i i received and from unexpected places you see where you least expect

it it'll change it it brings you face to face with your true self makes you it's a reality check this was i meant after my the incident so you've got here at the father he embraces islam and then he moves to medina now following that he does partake he's with the prophet sallallahu salaam and they partake in expeditions and do different you know different projects and things

and he's with the prophet side by side now there comes a time after the battle of i believe it was her name so the prophet sallam there was a certain point where he would distribute wealth amongst people and and wealth would include actual gold and silver but you know to the arabs back then wealth was not as much gold and silver that was there but that was secondary or even tertiary what was primary wealth for them was things like camels uh horses cattle

um gold sheep that kind of livestock was primary wealth and then wealth was stuff like food like staple uh food like wheat barley you know that kind of stuff and then land and then things like gold and silk gold and silver we think that they traded mostly in gold they didn't they most of their trade or or a lot of their trade put it like that was still in bartering so hakim ibn hazam turns up and this is such a beautiful hadith honestly you're going to love this hadith seriously

wallahi you're going to take this with you for the rest of your life the prophet sallam is his distributing wealth to people and he asks the prophet salallahu he says can i have some the prophet says and he gives him and gives him so many camels so many whatever it was an allocation

and he still is still there and then somebody else the prophet is distributing and he and he says again he says can i have some more you see insane inside see person you know his his love for so the prophet

gives him again and a little while he says to prove he's still there he's he's he's got this he's got more and people are there as well and people are watching and he's and he said lope it's like he's had i think some of the narration say a hundred camels now and so much like and the prophet's distributing and then he says because there's there there are surplus for example stuff that is then kept to be utilized and he says to prophet again he says he says

he says can i have some more. and the prophet salallahu three times you see people are watching not once does the prophet say to him no now it's not that the prophet didn't feel that look what is going on here the prophet gave him again this third time and then it's such a famous hadith we've got it there as well the prophet

sallallahu sallam says to him and he says and in some narrations this dunya dunya in some narrations and in some water you know this wealth this world it is appealingly attractive it is it is isn't the prophet's not

denying that you see this is the beauty the prophet is not denying that it isn't it is that see the greenery like like how nature appeals to us that's how the prophet is describing sweet it's like so sweet and appealingly attractive the prophet is saying that he says

you know whoever embraced it with a richness of this soul like you know it's not about like you may not be rich but you are rich at heart a person you know it's not like his heart is rich he has some contentment the prophet is not saying don't take it

whosoever took it with a richness of the soul they will have a blessing they will be blessed for them whoever took this this world with this is kind of like this lust this this kind of self that is greedy watching over it

did the prophet say he won't have it no he'll have it the prophet is saying he'll still have it but the barakah is taken away what does that mean it's like the one who eats and eats but doesn't get satiated and then the prophet crowns this statement with this final line he says

look that the hand the higher hand the elevated hand is better is more is better than the hand below the hand that's giving and the hand that's taking you see no point in that statement did the prophet reprimand him did the prophet say to him you know this dunya is evil why do you want so much are you greedy are you not making it about you the prophet begins by acknowledging you know this dunya it hasn't appealed isn't it

affirming that it has an appeal then the prophet doesn't say don't take it don't go after the dunya it's the devil deceiving you to says you know whoever does go after seizes it but with a richness of their heart they get a bonus god will bless it for them woman whoever sees it

here they still have it the prophet never said they won't hide him they cursed are you cursed or the greedy that's not how you teach people sure they want it's natural to want things it's natural to want the prophet understands this is the quran saying look that allah is saying he has this deep love in him for for wealth for the dunya for it's natural we want power we want these things

the prophet is not saying don't do this you're greedy you get away oh i'm disappointed in you oh no i was saying look you'll still get it but it just won't have the barakah some people have you noticed some people they eat and it's as though they don't get satiated and then just reminds him something you know the hand that gives is is better than the hand that receives not knocking the hand that receives not saying that the hand because people

sometimes need to receive just look how delicately delicately nesting that that but the honda gives is you know they say hakeem was so this struck him so powerfully that he took this oath to himself that wallahi after this day like to himself this is not something he had to do he said i will not take

from like my hand will always be the giving hand never the taking hand and and he lived on after the prophet so he lived a very long life and he passes away in the khilafah of maui and throughout abu bakr's time omar's time you know whenever there was certain distribution of wealth and his name would often be in the list in fact there's an incident omar where he's trying to give it to him and he would refuse to take it he says i i made an oath to myself a commitment that my hand will always be the giving

hand and um even on one occasion had to have people testify to say look i'm trying to give this to him this is his allocation this is allocated to him i'm trying to give it to him he's not taking it but wow you know this is such honestly such an amazing hadith that and what i love about it and you i'm sure you guys totally wallahi and i feel that this isn't emphasized enough is how the prophet described it not denying any of it not trying to say look this is evil you're like this you're like that and not even once saying no to him

and he's asking again and again and again and the prophets not even once saying that he's giving it it's giving it it's like how much more and then the prophet just a just such a you know a sweet reminder that you know this dunya it does have an appeal doesn't it but you know when you take it take it with the richness of the soul and god will double it for you in baraka and just remember that the giving hand is always in a place of

in relation to the receiving wow i really feel that these messages need to be in a time where people i don't i don't know in a time where the the true character of the prophet sallallahu salaam is often

distorted it is so important that we reconnect with this true character with this true personality of the prophet with the real seerah not kind of because there's a lot of noise okay so i feel this is always it's too important to remember these little nuggets and to store them with us keep them these are things stories tell your children these stories tell people around you remember them for yourself you now let it be a lesson

and all of these really they exemplify and instantiate the verse we sent you as a paragon of mercy as an embodiment of mercy so sallallahu alaihi i thought that's i really want to share that i thought it ties in with today's uh i will share the the clip i mean i'll share the the link to

all right to to take on calls right have i missed some is this a super chat did i miss this thanks for saving islam with the voice of reason ponder a bit over controversial verses in the quran such as jews blessings sure i'm not sure what is controversial about that but sure i mean if you there's certain verses you can let me know and i will try to shed some light on them in the future inshallah

all right so allah akbar all right ludwig van beethoven alright [Music] you get all these boastful muslims trying to act like they are defending islam but why the majority of them behave as if they lack the acclaim you know what

look lead by example and you know it's this who is it that i i think sheikh hamza yusuf she's shared a quote once it's an amazing quote where he said it's i'm not sure who he was citing where he said it's better to light a single candle than it is to curse the darkness and and i think that's true it's so true it's you know so needed it's not just true it's so desperately needed that yeah look you're going to get

people all the time it doesn't matter let's not focus on because if we're going to focus on people's problems then you see all that does is reminds us what we're lacking see this is one of the problems with people who even um you know people when they're trying to recalibrate and they'll say they're trying to be more positive and they'll say things like oh i need to be happy or i need to do this i need to be positive i need to do this is actually a wrong method because what you're reinforcing by converse judgment is that you're currently not happy

and you're currently not positive because i need to be these things so when you focus on what you don't have you also reinforce what you don't have you understand so it's it's so rather than just you just focus on the goal itself which is so for example i need to get this done get it done right so i'm going to do these three tasks this week i'm going to do these three tasks this week because i know that will then result

in me being more productive being more happy being more positive so you don't need to constantly remind yourself that you're not these things and i think that the message by extension there is if we look there's always going to be people and wherever there's people there's always going to be problems and people will have problems with people will have problems with and these things will happen and you know we can just sit and cry about them and go you know people aren't so good or we can just follow the actual seerah of the prophet we just shine our own light you understand why not be like that and in fact that's what really

it does it because people see the positivity you know it speaks for it it doesn't even it connects the the the kind of frequency it connects with people people feel it they think that's i feel it man and they they they want that so yeah ludwig saying i really like your teachings i'm not muslim though

i appreciate you uh just just being online and sharing your thoughts man you know this is it is a it is a family of humanity that's what it is faith at its core is a message of humanity it's not meant to be about a club it's meant to be about humanity not about a club membership so the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam this is one of the the most amazing thing it would it would hurt him that when things were happening and when they were happening to other people who

weren't muslim they weren't it would the way the the incident of him standing up at the death of the jewish lady when he found out he and he he stood up silenced and somebody made a comment that but she's jewish the prophet disdain like distastefully looked at him like he said it's it's a soul

so these things it's really at its core a message of humanity this is what it should always always the message should be of humanity love and compassion and yeah and then people are on their own path towards that right so got messages about people trying to people and their own love lives [Laughter] um mufti invite dr adnan ibrahim on your life that would be interesting wouldn't it yeah

i don't know dr adnan ibrahim he he would only do in arabic wouldn't he wouldn't do speak english i take it um he's amazing by the way i love his work um an absolute voice of reason yeah um any updates on the hubby i haven't actually chased it up to be honest uh i have got a few mine traps lined up and i've got to i've been uh kind of just preoccupied with i guess my own stuff um

i've i should have in shot a lot tomorrow night friday morning a mind trap with dr um so looking forward to that that sounds interesting i do have a mind trap also lined up um following week with doctor professor mir faisal that should be interesting hopefully on a bit of quantum physics and a bit on uh christianity as well with dr mead faisal and then there's

also with the doctor uh yusuf razza on on love so we've got one there we've got a few and we've got our other people as well but these are some of the upcoming ones right so somebody speaking about the their own struggles speaking of struggles and introducing a bit of uh lighthearted personality should we say into the equation and one cannot ignore let me bring up here

all right people i want to introduce you to abu dhulama what a personality huh so this is a person from the early like the the kind of like the middle tab era he's alive at that kind of time and so he's definitely around when tabain are around he's a poet um people disagree on his name and some people say his name is zandib nor joon and some people say that doesn't really make sense it should be

zedebrn june or zebra june but whatever usually they go with zand or zanet and some people whether he was a freed slave or he was they're not sure he is a poet right um an interesting colorful character that really gets a lot of royal audience and he's somebody who is uh he he he stands out one for his self-deprecating kind of

behavior he was apparently he was ugly what a what an accolade huh so apparently he was ugly he was incredibly eloquent but he would own his ugliness like he would he would be kind of very both like he would kind of just self-deprecating poetry he'd curse himself and insult himself and and it really praised a lot of the abbasids and obviously they liked that naturally people like uh being praised which makes sense so

so those of you that recall with previously i think just briefly spoken about the takeover of uh damascus by the abbasids and when they took it over it was you had people like safa who was uh who was like this um i mean i believe just thousands of people were kind of slaughtered but he um so he's in control he takes it over and there he encounters this abu

dhulamah who is often just praising the ambassadors he's praising safar he's really so they kind of like this guy's incredibly eloquent he's weird looking but compared to his his looks he's incredibly confident like he's so confident that he doesn't make any so witty and sharp uh thinks on the spot that they they kind of take him they find him amusing so i want i thought let's introduce him and some key characters that revolve around him so you've got a safar then you've got mansur abuja

who becomes the caliph after him you'll have his son al-mahdi you'll have al-mansoor's wife al-khaizuran is this powerful character as well personality we can speak much more about her another time but she appears in this in this chapter as well with abu dhulama so these are some top names that are kind of appearing around around this character and we can see here he was somebody that just speaking about receiving he would not miss an

opportunity to receive like he would thrust himself upon the opportunity like he would he would force like he would just be there basically just any opportunity he would just be like to the caliphs could i please have some some reward or some uh so it said that he wants um he meets safa who is this you know this major abbasid kind of and he praises him and here's one uh pr praise that you can see in that poem right there he says uh that lokan

focus he says if there were a people that sat above the sun it would be said to them like like they would have to say as well that that sit oh the family of abbas meaning that if there were people above the sun above them would be alo abbas like this is the makam of the abbasids

that he's he's saying that um so you've got right i was trying to he says all right that don't work out did it i was trying to nope let me just take that back a bit right so he says

that this even such a people who were above the sun if they existed they would have to say to allah abbas that you guys are above us and you are the most noble of all people like look at the level of kind of praise that he's uh hurling at the abbasids so he meets safa one day and and sometimes it was his audacity you know there's a saying that sometimes if you if if you're that if you have the audacity to ask sometimes you just get you know what i'm saying so

he meets safa and he says to safa safa looks at him and he says like what's up and he says he says yes you know my master your master he says he says i have an ask so the guy says obviously king he says yeah what he says he says i just want a hunting dog

so safa says okay he says give him a hunting dog and he goes he says but he says but to be with the dog i'm gonna need a horse i've got obviously i've gotta chase after the dog on the horse

so safar says give him a horse he goes [Laughter] he says i've got a dog and a horse he says there should be a servant as well who's going to look after them i'm not really in a position to look after awesome i like look look at me so safar looks at him he says he says grant he says give him a servant he says

he says there's a servant there's a horse there's a dog this me he says there should be a maid that like that cooks food prepares stuff at home he says don't you think so it's a rational conclusion so so safa looks at him and says he says give him a slave girl

he says ya say thee you've given me all these people but don't people need a home he says i've got the people i've got the horse and this but don't they need a home all this worry is going to happen it's going to happen in a home of course of course your majesty would know that of course so safa looks at him and says he says can you get this guy a house and and then he says he says yes he says

he says for a house there needs to be some land it can't just be a house like obviously where is the horse gonna graze where is it gonna he says this one you understand man you man of understanding man so they say safa just laughs and he says he says give this guy some goddamn land get him out of here so this is the kind of character that abu dhaba is he's so uh he's so

daring and kind of outrageous and he has this audacity to uh to kind of say all these things in front of these caliphs and and so they keep him quite close they think like you know what any and he says good poetry so they kind of like that and they feel that yeah you know say poetry for us every now and then and he does and this is an example here one day he this is an incident he was after um

after the caliph safa and um had died he was saying one of these poems which which you've got right here under the picture that innis you see he says this in abuja al-mansour's time now abu jafar al-mansoor was known for being incredibly tight-fisted those of you that have watched my i've got a clip on youtube called uh about us

the poem that um where it's it's those of you that haven't watched it definitely advise you to watch it it's about where abu jafar al mansoor is trying to con these poets because he was so tight-fisted they used to call him abu dhaba and danique is like so you have the nara nadirham and then you have smaller change which is made up of more less valuable metals and these sometimes were known as filth and where you get the money with the term for loose in arabic or some in this time were called and they used to call him abu dhawanik because he clings on to them

so let alone the silver the gold he's not letting that go and so in his time abu jafar al-mansoor there were a lot of reef reforms that were taking place and one of the things he did was he would make um people dress in black and what he did is he would make them with these kind of these uh these kind of hats with these sticks in there that would hold them up these black hats and they would wear their sword underneath behind their back like and he would make them write a that this is only for in his court you know for this is not for the general

public but this was for the royal elite that they would write this verse on the back of their comes which was that um um he's he's got it this verse so this is how he would have them kind of dressed so you can see this is a it's a strange kind of practice but he had this going on at a little period of time jaffa abu jafar al-mansoor did and it's weird so whilst that's happening

abu dhabi is in that position as well because he's from the royal court so he's in the and he's got this long face and so uh abujafar sees him and he says to him so you can see here like and and he's told the people to wear these kind of we're black and these long hearts we're with these kind of little sticks inside holding it up

and then when he sees about he says to in distress he says to him he says what's up how are you doing it says it's i mean the worst of conditions and he says it says why so he says what he feels because the hat is so big it's like you know it's like it's like i've just got like this is all of my face that i've got and look at the state of it and he says wassey fifi isti and he says that my sword is up my up my rectum so it's up my behind because he

made them with their swords hang it behind and he says he says and i've dyed my clothes black which wasn't a good thing for people back then he says when the birth and this is obviously playing on the verse of the quran that those people who throw the book of allah behind their backs and he says and i've thrown the book of allah behind my back meaning that you made me write this on my back allah that allah is sufficient for them and and then it says obviously in the quran when it mentions people who take the book of allah behind

their backs that's as a dis to them those people so abu mansoor when he hears that he just kind of bursts out laughing and and and he says himself before abu dhabi says we were hoping that our imam would gift us things and then he says this poem he says and when he came he just the gift he gave us was just wearing like these long hats

he says as though they're these jewish bells that we're just wearing on our heads and mansur burst out laughing and then he said to him look he says to him in other words that you better keep a lid on it okay because he says make sure nobody else hears this from you so they they did have this kind of fear because he was quite um like he he had no filter he would just say stuff which is so uh crazy and to give you an example of that this one time abu mansour's wife passes away one of his wives

back then obviously it wasn't restricted to one especially not royalty as you can imagine one may even be amazed that he realized one of his wife's pasta [Laughter] i'm messing right so this wife was actually one of his related to him and as in not just as a wife i think she was like a second cousin or something or third cousin or something so her name was hamada binta isa and she passes away so everybody's in a

state of somberness and seriousness and they go out to the graveyard where they've about to bury her and hamada's body is being brought as well so abu mansoor is there in his in his mode so abu jafar al mansour in a moment of as some may call mistaken clarity he decides to to speak kind of um

about what about kind of uh in a preaching manner he asks he says and so people are listening remember everybody's quiet the body is being brought forward and he says he says what have you prepared for this pit are you the grave what have you prepared for it so abu dhaba just looks up and he goes i've prepared hamada

your wife i prepared her for everybody bursts out laughing even monsoor totally wasn't expecting that reply he can't help but burst out laughing then he holds and says to him behave behave yourself like what's wrong with you like i'm having a moment of somberness and seriousness here so this is the kind of person he was and um on one incident it was uh abu dhulama he was known to love his drink as well he would uh love a bit of alcohol now and then and so at

that time the abbasids you see in abu dhabi time the abbasids weren't openly uh like they they condemned alcohol and things openly like they weren't later on like by amin moon and later on with kill and all these people alcohols like kind of rampant and but by this time it's not publicly acceptable that the caliphs condone alcohol and they didn't themselves they didn't at that stage like abu dhafram mansoor generally wouldn't would have condemned alcohol and stuff so at this time

um somebody tells him hey do you know that uh abu dhabi was drunk he was wandering around the guy is drunk over this is that true so he's busy he's doing something and he says look i won't have it that any of my

my court like the people of my of my royal chambers that they are drunk i won't have this so he says look i haven't got time to see to it now he says just apprehend him and throw him in a cell so they managed to catch abu dhalam allah this is one of meev's epic lines he says

something along those lines he says that he's he describes his own temperament that i'm such a sensitive person that um and he says that you know move the glass from my lips that i'm in a state of intoxication so they catch abu dhaba anyway they apprehend him and he's he's tipsy i think they throw him in this cell but the place they lock him that's just close to him is this kind of like a barnyard so they lock him in there and he's there and he wakes up and he's in this place with chickens and there's like chickens moving around and he's locked in this kind of barnyard and

and he says to and so what happens is monsoon kind of forgets about him and so he's locked in this place and he then eventually like a day passes and he asks one of the guards he says look please he says do me a favor bring me something to write on he said just one faith he says you won't regret it i'll sort you out he pleads with the god eventually the god brings him this kind of kirtas to write on and on there he writes this poem to to to bajaflor mansur

you know may my soul be sacrificed for you hi hi hi he says he says that for what did you imprison me and kind of ruin like look at me i mean like kind of shreds i've been thrown here like you know they roughed me up a bit and he says over what he says he says over a drink that is so pure in its temperament that as though its flames are being emitted from a lamp like he's

obviously praising the alcohol but then he says he says i'm being dragged to a cell as though i'm a rebel who's refusing to pay taxes meaning that you get some of these chiefs and tribal chiefs and these people who refuse to pay these kind of heavy taxes well sorry refuse to pay their taxes and they get dragged to prison this is how i'm being treated follow ma'am

he says that he says that it says if i was imprisoned with them with these tycoons and businessmen because i had all this land like an asylum then it's cool but i'm imprisoned with these bloody chickens

and they say that uh mansoor when he heard that he burst out laughing and he said he said bring him out bring him here and he asks him he says so he says so what did you do all night he says i just made chicken sounds with the chickens so they used to find him quite entertaining as you can see at least to keep him around and and he would often any opportunity he had he would just like ask ask ask ask he would not you know this like the receiving hand he was just like double always just any opportunity he'd have

they say to one of the caliphs he um he came back from some battle and abu dhabi said to him he said masha'allah you're back from the battle he said you know i took an oath i took an oath said i took an oath if i see you you're going to he says i see you safe and sound of course i see you you're going to pray upon the prophet

caliph said indeed he said a what a nice thing to do he said and you're going to give me a thousand golden gold pieces [Laughter] i took an oath so the the caleb said look as to the first praying upon the prophet of course the second what's that got to do with me he goes he goes yeah khalifa i took an oath of them together combined you can't tear them apart and then they would they would just say to him you s bloody scoundrel and then they would they would give it to him as

well often you'd say so in that case he gave it to him as well the caliph did he said you know what give him his bloody gold pieces and tell him to get lost and so this is how he would be on every opportunity he'd get abu dhaba would be there and he would just seize any and every opportunity to to ask for something so like that we have this incident where

this is uh an incr another one incredible um over this before we get to that one about something to show his quick wit after abu jafar al-mansoor passes away his son mahdi he actually you know abu jafar was really tight-fisted but mahdi was actually quite giving and open so abu dhulama from a younger age of mahdi he kind of like he gets in his good books always you know saying a nice poem for him doing this charming him

and so he he has a soft spot for him as well and what happens is one day in mahdi's gathering abu dhaba comes in he's like boxing in comes along and al-mahdi the caliph is sitting there and he's got a bunch of people a dozen but they're all incredibly prominent people like tribal chiefs and and what happens is mahdi looks at abu dhaba and you know he's i don't know he's in that provocative mood

he says he says you have to pick one person in this gathering and you have to insult him because his poetry was really good and he was really good at these what the arabs called hija which is like insulting poetry it's like a dis so he says you have to insult him so abu dhullah says he says sorry what and he says that he says you better he says this is not a this is not an option mandatory this one so the chiefs get on edge as well that time because

think about it this is a poet and it's an insult isn't it you're sitting in the royal chambers and some poets can uh kind of make a mockery out of you and everybody obviously is so they all look at abu dhabi you know all these big people sitting there thinking you better not you know you you pick me and next time you're passing through this territory you then have words you know wordsworth so he looks around and he says to first of all to matthew

he says you know oh master yasidi surely you know like he's hesitating and ahmadi says you better pick somebody that is that you feel is worthy of what you're about to say and you better say so he immediately responds he says indeed labay quesade and he says indeed master he says i've he says indeed he says i've looked and you know what he says the most deserving in this room to be insulted he says

it's me he says bandana cheese and he says a poem immediately he says he says he says since you're not from the the kind of the noble people well karama there's no karama for for somebody like you he says

he says if you weren't imam you look like a monkey says and if you take it off you look like a pig he says he says you combined between ugliness and dishonor and like being wretched he says he says that is what wretchedness does it's followed by ugliness

he says if you even if you have attained some blessings of this world foreign he says don't be so happy about it because kayama is close by they say maddie proper he couldn't hold back and he smirked and he thought you you you is sharp incredibly sharp-witted and he would often do that he would insult himself in front of people and say you know like i'm such a wretched and ugly person they would find it amusing but then the confidence with which he would do it he

would own it that they kind of couldn't help but liking him and so yeah so what happens to to top that up as an incident and a colorful incident from his life is one day during the time of i believe mahdi mahdi's mother khalifa's mother

wife one of his wives okay now she is an incredibly important character and personality in islam islamic history and we can actually dedicate a session about her in the future but just remember and research on her she was an incredibly powerful woman and she was like the de facto ruler and she ruled actually one would say co-ruled with mansoor quite powerfully and then during her son's time um she has this iron fist and she she's kind of irremovable and she's refusing

to concede on her power and this is power struggle between her and her son mahdi which goes on for a while eventually resulting in both of them attempting to kill each other which is a whole tragedy saga in and of itself and does result result eventually in the death of her son the mother who kills her son eventually and we'll pick up on that saga another day but she's incredibly um a powerful lustrous kind of like important character in abbasid history she is one day

coming out of um i think she's gone to uh she's going to hajj or something or she's she's gone out of town and she bumps into abu dhulam abu dhalama sees her and she's this is it she's coming back from hajj and he sees he comes across and he rushes to her he knows who it is obviously he's part of the royal chambers and he says oh yes he starts praising her and um and she says she says yes yes yes of course speak speak

he says uh you know yes you know as the saying girls you know that small mouth big ask you know if i may you know please please please please she says what is it he says uh he says you know i've i remember i told you he really def you know he insults himself he'll insult people around he says i'm really living a wretched life and she says really why what's happened he says i've got this wretched old

invalid at home of a wife that is useless [Laughter] he says and it's draining whatever is left of life out of me he says please just one ask that give me a just a pretty slave girl just one

just one so the way he kind of says about his wife she starts laughing like people around here start laughing and they say to him you know you've got no shame and he says come on please just one just one you'll you won't even notice one gun in your court so she over there it just says okay okay okay and she leaves now abu dhulama he says i have to receive [Laughter] payment is due man payment is due so he follows up to uh baghdad he goes to baghdad

now he can't get entrance into that he can't get interest into that court with uh but remember the royal people like the royal guards and stuff know who he is because he's often he's been with safar then he's been with mansoor then he's been with even like he's with them and in the royal chambers so often that they people know who he is that he eventually gets one of the the ladies that is in charge of the palace affairs for resurrende the first lady

or the khalifa mother in this instance and she says to her look i need to can you please tell hey zoran that look she promised me something so they they mention it and hazel just ignores she's got bigger and better more important things to deal with so then he writes on a little he writes a little poem on a letter and says please give this to his

so they give it and on it he writes that abilities that is the woman he's giving it to you to give it to he says please and this is the poem that tell my master this rightly guided already have to begin with the with the praise you know the praising so he says

he says she promised me before she was leaving setting out on her way to hajj for a a girl she promised me a girl says that he says i waited and waited and i sent her 20 poems in her praise he says every time i would follow it with another poem praising her meaning i've done all of this says look lesaphi beti

he says you know in my house to make my to make my bed comfortable to give me comfort i haven't got a decent woman except one that is all kind of scrawny are jews so old that sakoha mr adida her calf is like like rancid meat meat is out of the heat that's what a cough looks like

her face is uglier than a grilled fish life with such a woman can never have any room for for for pleasure or harmony or any enjoyment so when heisuran read this she burst out laughing all the people in the courtyard burst out laughing they were like this guy has got no shame and then you know what it's one of those things that they can't help but kind of like him as well because he's it's so outrageous and

so she says you know what says give him a slave girl so they give her this really pretty beautiful mesmerizingly stunning slave girl so what happens is he's left because he sends this and they tell him first of all girl so he goes back to where he's from the town and then says you know what i did promise him so send him so she sends this stunning beautiful kind of girl right hand possesses

so what happens you know kismet so what happens the royal guards turn up to his his humble of old with this slave girl stunning you know absolute epitomizing beauty wow radiating a glow so they turn up and this vehicle is not at home he's not there who's there his wife you know the one who said his face is like a grilled dead fish that has been grilled she's at home she says how can i help you they say

well you know the royal palace has sent a gift for abu dhaba she as soon as the wife sees what is basically like miss world or this kind of this beauty pageant right there they can see that whoa she thinks my life is over she thinks this is like my life is ruined now because there's no way once he sees me i mean sorry once he sees her that there's any room for me left in his life like i'm just i mean it was bad as it was but now he's got this

you know he's just gone from i don't know he just had the late in the he's got this this is just this is game over for me so she's kind of really upset so the slave girl is there so slave girl they they put the slave girl in the way the houses were kind of made they had these other quarters so she's in this other quarter she doesn't know what's going on they've just told her you've basically you're going with this place and that was their kind of life so she's whatever okay or whatever with it so what happens is here abu dhabi's wife called they have a son

who's of age is he's like a grandson like a young man his name's dulama that's why they call him abu dhulam she calls dulam and she says the hour of your test has arrived allah sulama is thinking i wonder what what musiba has landed what is the test mother what is the test she says today you have to prove your loyalty to me as a son he

thinks what this one man what this what this son what what is this loyalty man says i am your son he's thinking damn i don't know what i have to do she says look your dad has perceived a new a luxury item shall we say this it means it's game over for your mother but you can save the day you go into that chambers where she is and you tell her

that you are the rightful owner for her that basically she's been designated to this she doesn't know exactly who it is she's never met your dad so you say it's her it's you and then you do the deed man my son you do the deed you know the have the intimate moments with her see because once you're intimate with a according to the general thing is that's then exclusive so like any sun under such pressure of loyalty having to face such an urges difficult

task one must express themselves intimately with this epitome of beauty so he takes up that task so he says okay la because so he goes to the chamber and there's this beautiful girl and he says to her it is i and he's this young man strong you know he's got his charm his good reasonably good looking so she and they connect and they chill and then they have their intimate connections and uh

yeah and they're kind of loving it and so what happens is now the sun fresh it's like you know what all of a sudden a person you know when a person's in a happy stage moment in life then they remember other happy things yeah i haven't been on a walk in a long time it's good for the health you know so so the sun goes out he's walking he goes for a walk ah yeah oh

life the world is it's a beautiful world during this time abu dhulama comes home he comes home somebody says to him oh by the way you had the royal guards coming here they they left someone they left a slave girl rushes usain bolt mode rushing home rushes into the guest chambers sees this beautiful girl thinks

the sweetness of iman he feels it he thinks this is amazing my hours have come true the lord gives and gives he's about to jump onto her and hug her and she says whoa whoa whoa old man what man who are you who are you who are you man who are you he said sorry he says i'm abu dhalam she says so she says no i'm your you were sent here for me she goes are you drunk

she says i was sent here for this guy and it's amazing young brave man he's starts describing him he says he's like tall he's got this build he's got this hair like this and she says yeah i really like him that's my you know my master that's my master and yeah we've got an epic bond we he says what are you talking about where have you met what do you mean where have i met him i've been with him all day we've been together he's just gone out somewhere right now abu dhabi clocks it what's happened

he realizes this is a plot this is a conspiracy man the illuminati man the plot against him and this one not fair so abu dhalam goes finds his son dulama drags him to the caliph who's mahdi he starts roughing up his son slapping his son trying to drags him to the caliph

he says to the caliph the caliph says what's up says this son of a beep look what he's done to me he says he says what one no child has ever done with his father he says i'm not going to leave the royal chambers today until you don't execute this bashed this is what he says he says he says until you know the only thing that's going to calm this situation is telling the caliph mahdi that you kill

him you have to execute him so caleb's like whoa whoa calm down dude what's happened this is your son and he tells him he says this is what he's done he says i popped out for the afternoon and he'd sent this is what he did he plotted with his good good-for-nothing mother just to deprive me of this so mahdi bursts out laughing and falls back they say he falls on the floor laughing that's how much he laughs

says to him says you know mati is obviously calming and remember this is an old he's been there since his grandfather's time he's been there since the first time since mansoor's time now his time this is like an old person in the in the court he says to him look okay okay okay we're going to please him he says that's the execution sword and the execution they used to lay out this leather that

kind of put the person down and then to kind of drench the blood he says a safe or another bring the the execution gear obviously just saying to kind of control him a bit he's like calm down calm down okay okay executioner execute is this way so he says uh so then he looks at the sun then the lama obviously looking at him he says look

at he says okay you've heard him now hear me out so mahdi says you know what he says to abu dhabi he's got a point i've heard you it's only fear you know this is an execution it's only fair that i hear don't you agree i hear his hajjah his argument as well so he says sure so he says go on and say he says he says this old man he says he's the most wretched and most deserving of like a slap himself this way he says

he says he's been doing this to my mom for the last 40 years he's been he's been intimate sexually with my mom for 40 years i don't get angry over it he says and i just did this once to his servant girl and look how he he flies into a rage [Laughter] mahdi burst out laughing they say that he could not control his laughter he just burst out laughing and then he he

they say anybody that was in that chamber couldn't hold back their laughter and he says to abu dhabi look he says you know what i'll call a truce rather than executing your son he says how about i'll provide you as a gift he says don't worry and he kind of placates him but this is the story of this character that is so colorful abu dhulama i had to share it so if you do get time you can research it uh fun and human somebody who is prominent during the live the lives of

several of the abbasid caliph uh the caliphs people with that let's wrap that up um [Music] much love for the super chat uh mostly you explained last week that the cow story in the quran is not about becoming obsessive or but isn't the ruling islam all about details not necessarily not necessarily there's a difference between details and there's a difference between becoming obsessive okay so obviously things have some details about them

zainab jafari shukran much love for the super chat our names of our names of sorry that's a different question they're coming up our names of god degrees in conscious awareness sorry i don't understand that question our names of god degrees in conscious awareness all right our names of god decrees and conscious awareness um i would say that the names of god

reflect they reflect the divine decree in its manifestation in creation okay so you see you see you see you see these you see manifestations that symbolize and are symbolic of the transcendental names of the divine which is allah

all right so some somebody asked was he alive during haruna rashid's time some have argued he was actually others have said maybe he wasn't but um but he lived around that kind of time okay i'm sharing the link let's see if that's gone out that has okay people i think i'll i'll have to connect a bluetooth device

let me just connect this while i've shared the link let me see how this god yes okay i take it that's connected let me just go into settings make sure the audio yep that's connected excellent okay now i'll just share that link out again

let's see the time as well whoa okay there you go all right so asim khan mufti my uncle the brother of my mother watches the show passed away yesterday his name was forgive him and others i mean i mean i'm very sorry to hear about your loss uh bless your uncles after life may allah grant him an elevated may he

grant your family i mean death is a reality an inescapable reality it doesn't we have to sometimes change um or we have to sometimes refresh our outlook on it it's scary in the sense it's unknown to us so we feel that you know we don't know

but death in and of itself is is beautiful as shocking as that may sound but from a perspective you see it is um into a dimension that is in a different dimension an existence that exists beyond this consciousness pure consciousness so

those people certainly are in a better place yeah it's difficult somebody said how does one embrace death you see it's coming to terms with i love this a clip i shared it once of robin williams where he's i it's a clip from an extract from um a clip from his what was it patch adams adam was it patch adams an amazing movie a must watch robin williams was such an amazing soul you know such an amazing soul honestly

um and i feel that he had so much hurt within him that people like him they can't they have such empaths that they can't see other people in suffering that they spend most their lives keeping other people happy but he didn't i guess the darkness within maybe he didn't deal with that in his own way because eventually he took his own life obviously he must have been grappling with with that the shadow within see wherever there's light

by default there will be a shadow and yeah but but that he has this clip in the way he says when he's having to present to the panel um justify his his kind of clinical practices and they say well what if somebody had died and he says well what's wrong with death he says that why can't we treat death with um with some dignity [Music] with beauty and he says with god forbid even humor and it's such a powerful quotation

and i think part of the problem is people have scared away frightened away and i get it they're trying to say we're trying to keep things in balance but they've made everything about punishment and torture and fire and brimstone and you know snakes and serpents and scorpions and suffering and that people the poor souls are petrified of one people are scared of death anyway because it's the unknown even if you don't believe in a god you would still have a fear of the unknown it's part of your fitrah

and i actually feel that deep down within our souls we know death it's it's that and that's that fear of the the it's uncanny it's a familiar yet unknown it's a familiar unknown and this is why it causes a turbulence a disturbance

and i think this is why many people when they are on the path of consciousness and people through mindfulness and through other measures people they experience an ego death where they actually come face to face with the death and it is i guess in its moments it's terrifying but the strange thing is that you know when that happens it's familiar like you know it's death but you know it

it's like i know this from before it's really strange you know allah says in the quran that that that you mean like allah he ahmad teneth natani that you gave us two deaths

that allah mentions that he grants death then life then death in life many people have then looked pondered over those verses that what does that mean that he grants you two deaths and then two lives and but and there's so much written on these that but the point is that in that those who experience that there is a

a deep long forgotten but a familiarity and you see it and then the strange thing is people who experience that then tend to lose a fear of death so they either embrace it or they at least don't have that kind of fear of it

yeah there's allah has hidden many things as secrets for us to discover in this world i think death doesn't need to be viewed gothically gruesomely it's just a passing from a dimension to a dimension and to a more purer dimension and the consciousness continues it doesn't kind of end

all right all right so i'm just sharing the there you go there's the link uh if somebody wants to there are some questions a bunch of questions i suppose if there's um you can you're more than welcome to jump on and ask any questions that you may or share your thoughts and

well as the saying goes suffering becomes religious if you do it right sure sure but i think it's interesting that you can't you have to um [Music] you have to um not take it into a kind of neurosis this is the problem i feel that sometimes see islam came to save people i've shared the link by the way those of you that do want to come on if you activate your webcam and your mic as well so you

and then i can uh i'll see it appear and then i can bring you on so okay what are some i don't know what there seems to be some kind of discussion going on in the chat i don't know what people are what these few people are even talking about what the topic i don't even know what the talking about something else

okay guys so yeah i'll share it if anybody does want to jump on we can jump on otherwise i'll share a few words and then we can wrap up we can call it and call in a night we've covered some interesting topics if you do want to come on you will need to activate your webcam and uh the mic obviously the mic but the webcam as well right so

what is his proof i don't know what that okay we've got uh muhammad salman muhammad salman salman you are yes you are we can see you we can hear you where are you joining us from salman sir i'm from india

near delhi it's 10 a.m in the morning and you can see my face okay i just saw your link and i just joined no shukran shukran i'm glad you joined us it's it's an honor to to have you on and obviously yeah

wow so okay share some so what would you like to uh share with us some thoughts or is there a question or something preoccupying your mind it's a pardon me for my english i'm not that much fluent uh okay but i'm i used to listen to you since almost two years and the way you help us to ponder or and out of the box uh so it's very helping i just want to you know i just have some queries i used to mention something on the comments always so first of all i

just want to you know tell you that you know your research has really helped us a lot to uh to think uh let us think out of the box and to have a more accurate view okay that my question is i appreciate it i appreciate it i appreciate that now that's good yeah okay i just what i just want you to redirect or

oh yeah i am aware of it i i've had a few people ask me about dr harney they asked me i had some people ask me what does what do you think of his um you know the abrahamic locution i'm not sure what he means by that what does he mean by abrahamic locution do you know they know what i have read about it uh he he uses the methodology of the quran obviously he's not the denier of the hadees no no no i understand that but no sorry i just meant you know when he uses this word do you know what he means by that because some people have asked me what do you think of his abrahamic locution i

said i'm not sure what that means i mean i understand what the word in english means but i don't understand what he means by abrahamic locution what what what is he what is what does he mean like when he's saying that do you know okay so uh that much i have perceived till now is that that the arabic used in the quran he says that arabic used in the quran is not the you know the soul uh dialect or the linguistic only used by arabs of that time actually it is a mixture of you know uh sorry so it is a mixture of uh the dialect of the stories that are being narrated in the quran whether they are related to

prophet moses in egypt or whether they are related to the you know linguistic used in you know um uh if the story has been edited in yemen or iraq or jerusalem so quran actually uses dead dialect and he he he is the basis for his work of verse that every rasool is sent but in the sun of his own people and for this he he uses uh for example uh uh he he gives an example of prophet moses you know well quran addresses moses in the front so he just select uh you know

selected many words like sirha sababa uh or al-aqarbi and he said that actually these are not the arabic words first or in itself rather they are used they are found in pharonic liquidation of egypt and he cites some hieroglyphs which have the similar meanings so he said that you know whenever quran talks about any stories related to that particular religion region sorry so quran uses that particular dialect or equivalent representation in arabic so it's not easy for any human to do that

so in general whatever your quran uses whether narrating the story of prophet abraham prophet moses so quran uses that particular linguistic and very much equivalent in arabic so it's a combination of those major measures so from what i've understood from what you're saying i don't know um so what i'm understanding is you're saying that the or he's saying that the quran has in it words that are arabic but they

initially they they are aerobicized so they've become arabic but they originally were non-arabic words as well so i take it that's what and they had other so they may come from another um let's say they're from syriac or they're from um aramaic or they're from different things and they or hebrew and yeah of course i mean that's all of language i don't think anybody would have a problem with that because i think muslims have always said that the quran contains words that you see so the whole quran is arabic but words in the they are words that they origin so it

came into arabic language through a different song like english today uh is a language so there's words that the origin is latin origin is greek or origin is arabic even or indian even so now but today it's an english word so you know like let's say shampoo is originally indian isn't it so hindi was taken from this so but today it's an english word so people would say i want some shampoo now similarly the word like dinar is taken as an example is taken from the roman dinaras and dinari it was it was the roman gold piece so the arabs used to

call the gold thing dinar because the romans used to call it dinari and dinaras and the arabs used to call the silva and durham because the persian used to call it the silver so the arabs took these words from the neighboring civilizations because they were the big major players that played you know that made economic kind of markets and did things and the arabs were not a competing kind of market so they just borrowed words from them into the arabic language and then but every language does this you know it's not um i think all muslims accept this nobody i don't

think anybody disagrees that so for example the name musa or the name isa are not arabic words like they've become arabic because the arabs used them but they in origin would be hebrew or be something else so yeah but i don't think that i don't think anybody would disagree with that exactly and he he he gave example of a book might be compiled recently uh which uh which have worked on you know compiling all the accounts of the poets arabic poets and the you know the words the difficult word that ever been used in the history of arab in our history of islam as well and from

and that particular compiler said that there are many wars in the quran which was were never been used by the arabs of that time or half of the you know prophet's time so actually it was prophet uh with the divine help of allah are actually explaining the meanings of those words so while the traditional uh of us while they are they are just interpreting it using the israeli so they are actually making error you know because they are you know they have no particular meaning except taught by prophet muhammad in abrahamic location those words so okay so i i think i just want you to i as you see

what i okay what i've kind of watched of his i haven't watched that many things of uh i mean it's my fault because you know what my to be honest my clips are so long not clips but my videos are so long i have usually cut out clips throughout every day i try to release about two clips which i just cut out might be five minutes ten minutes but my weekly session is going to be three four hours long so his sessions are about two and a half hours long as well and i uh i struggle to kind of watch it so and if he had like quick clips i would love to just watch them if he gave and

the problem is not a problem but it's it's my problem i guess as a person um you know just being distracted and impatient and it's because sometimes you see normally when i begin something i will begin by telling you what the answer is and then i will unpack it and say well this is how we arrived at this answer he doesn't he from what i've watched that one he tells you right at the end so you've got to watch two and a half hours so i i kind of struggled watching it so the few things i did uh the few things i did watch but then i wasn't sure i had to skim through it you

see so i wasn't sure maybe i've misunderstood it now because if you just explained it in the beginning saying look this is what i believe and now we're going to show how we arrived at that so then i would know clearly this is what he believes so so for example i watched a few things where and i get the fact that he's definitely really thinking out of the box and i admire the the courage to always think out the box this non-linear thought is is amazing but so some of the things i found like yeah sure they're very they may be similar to things i've said

um but some other things i found quite really i found them very strange um now once again i'm not sure you see i could be mistaken because i skimmed through it maybe he wasn't saying that but i heard for example one he said that okay the virgin birth now i've got something on this already that there's a difference of opinion and i've mentioned that and people may think that view that i highlighted uh is outrageous so fair enough but that view has existed let's say this is what is the minority view but this is and the majority have said this now he also

from what i watched was saying that okay it's not a virgin birth but then he from what i understood was saying that was isa alaihissalam's father if i understood that correctly and yahya was his brother and then i then i i saw a brief thing of a clip which i didn't watch whole completely so i could be completely wrong he was saying i think they're african are they african you're saying jesus is african yes sir he proved that jesus by listening to different very variants of um and he said he just said he

he said like so these are some snippets of things that i saw uh i saw this one clip where he said like maybe moses ali salaam had his hand cut off and a new hand grew for him and to be honest i don't i don't find myself um these these things if i understood them correctly i mean i don't really um validate these kind of i don't validate the interpretations i mean to me they they're kind of very uh i mean and and people may equally say the same about my views

but i find it quite kind of outrageously kind of put out there like it doesn't follow for me neither a rational view neither a uh traditional view like i don't see what the um like you're not like to me it's not based on pure reason which if it was i would still even if i disagreed i'd say well you know what that's actually it's like a rash it's a a rational conclusion followed through but it isn't like so if you're saying things like let's say moses ali salaam has his hand chopped off and then he just grows a fresh new hand that's not you're not following the

voice of reason necessarily you're trying to follow some other conclusion which then just seems like i don't know it's such a big leap to put a tiny thing together and the this thing like with jesus let's say jesus is the brother of john i mean even according to christian tradition he isn't not that john you know john the baptist he's not the brother of john so even according to christian tradition even according to our tradition he is and although i it is believed that jesus had brothers in the bible it does mention he has brothers um but the james and uh some have said

whether it's peter but he has brothers and then they disagree the churches whether they are his step-brothers or his his his his kind of whole brothers and the catholics disagree with the others over that now so okay that's a different discussion but i just feel that it's it's like wow like like this i don't like it's such a leap and i don't see the need personally i don't see the the need for that big leap unless it's compelling like so unless so for example one could say well we're reinterpreting this in light of our understanding of the world today like let's say somebody was to

reinterpret versus around evolution now they're reinterpreting this based on our understanding of how the world is today how it operates um fair enough i mean that's you know you you're going from a particular framework or if somebody was to say well look i feel that this is looking at the psychology of narratives i'm going to interpret narratives as a whole in the quran and give an explanation okay fine that's i think but i feel i don't know this is where i was with some of the clips and i've seen only a very few amount um he does seem like somebody i do love

the fact and i praise him uh you know dr hani um i commend him for uh encouraging people to reconnect with the quran i think that's a wonderful thing he's definitely caught the eye of many people and i feel that that's you know he's promoting the quran even the title the marvelous quran is is amazing uh i think that any if anybody can bring people uh if they can pique their interests towards the quran to me that that's definitely you know plus point for that i absolutely praise you may allah bless him and uh you know may allah kind of

increase him and his followers in the love for the quran and everybody but i just feel some of these i don't see the the reason in making such huge claims like i don't i just like if i just said so for example like if i just said that satan and and you said well why i said well you know this is one like like i want to understand like why am i making such a like what is the like why am i just because that's just like a sudden like if i said that like let's say i just started saying was chinese people he was from shanghai

and now it's like why am i saying like what's like i like i'm more interested in what's going on beneath the serve why am i thinking that like what's going on like why am i uh what's making me want to think that so i'm intrigued that so people have brought up his methodology which is called abrahamic locution and i just don't know what that is so um maybe someday i we can get him as in for an interview on mine trap that would be wonderful i'd love to ask him yeah and i would love to ask him in a non non-antagonistic manner because i

feel that you know what to be honest if i'm if i'm being fair that i think he he might be getting a lot of hate from people who may just hate on who may just hate on a lot of people anyway but i think that i don't know if i'm the best person but i feel that i'm a a good enough candidate that that promotes the voice of reason to ask him about these things because of because other people that would ask him would just clearly be coming from a position of maybe sectarian kind of uh angles whereas i wouldn't come from that

i would welcome the voice of reason and so i think it would be if he is ever wanting to say well i'd like you know to somebody can ask me and i'll answer i think i would be a good person uh for him to engage with on that yeah exactly sir i have also messaged dr hani about you that he may engage with you uh some results as you said on on his youtube channel might be staggering might be staggering but what i feel uh as i'm following his videos just like yours that he has got a common methodology you know using the version of the quran he said the quran is

in itself the various is very strong linkages you know it is not like it's starting from alif and being too collaborable so these are it is very strongly linked and we have to work on those linkages so irrespective the results he is you know coming out with uh he's using the same common mythology that's more important what i feel as a person so there's a concern so there's a consistency of his intensity secondly what i feel the most important results that can that can lie in coherence with the traditional opinion or not the traditional opinion the scholars uh the

opinion of that no no nowadays scholars is that he claimed he proven that that joule karmann was none other than prophet muhammad sorry you know

he made a claim he made a claim that you know whenever you are just uh researching on the quran so you cannot go on claiming you know and cherry picking like he was second or he was cyrus you know quran is itself what does it say that the quran is all about muhammad the character of the prophet muhammad's quran itself so you have to first really try to relate to prophet muhammad he actually related with the the verses of the kulkarman to the vasani the jews at the time of the book he said that these questions were asked at that time so it is related with the prophet

and the war engaged at the uh with the byzantines and where byzanti do not confronted prophet muhammad so he used this certain mythology and it was very interesting you see what i would see what i would say is there you see we have to understand that there is a psychology to narrative okay now the psychology of narrative like you can have an incident and then it can have layers of symbolism so it can be symbolic so for example let's say um let's say for example the story of adam

ali and and the garden of eden and this whole struggle this kind of being enticed and the fruit the forbidden fruit now that's a narrative but then it could be symbolic of let's say we could draw a story we could draw symbolically lessons from that about just general uh battles between good and evil in life or just struggles or somebody could look at let's say ibrahim al-issalam about to sacrifice his son and this is the narrative at the narrative level but the

psychology of narrative would show well that it would have symbolic levels as well so symbolically this could be about sacrificing uh you know something dear in life and an effort now so if we took let's say any story from the quran any narrative you can symbolically extract from that um many reflections from the seerah of the prophet sallam i'm sure we could look at for example the sacrifice we could look at moses being uh disturbed by people or his own people you could look at the prophet and quraish you could look at isa alaihissalam struggling and you

could look at the prophet dealing with the other tribes trying to overcome him as the romans or trying to overcome you could look at the sacrifice element you could look at good versus evil and you could you could look at the prophet sira and you could see uh reflections of the narrative symbolically in in the syria but you could equally extract further and see reflections in our lives like i could see that let's say somebody thinks i'm going through i'm struggling the the the the death of a loved one now they're seeing uh a narrative in the quran dealing with death and they're taking symbolically

inspiration from that i think taking inspiration and seeing reflections from the narrative symbolically in every way or wherever is is amazing and that's definitely you know i i feel that's also one of the the the propulsive dynamic nature of the quran that you do but to say this is that the symbolic in that case let's say the symbolic nature is the the nature it's the nature of the of the narrative and the narrative nature is actually uh

it's it's not it i i i don't know that i i think that like with you see whether he was cyrus most people feel he most likely would have been cyrus or maybe darius uh but whoever he was or whether he was alexander according to some people i doubt alexander doesn't make any sense really although gelala dina seyuti may have felt it was alexander but the the thing is that he is somebody that the jews asked the prophet about so the quran says

that they ask you the jewish so the jewish kind of rabbis come to the prophet and they decide to quiz him over oh damn did i sorry i think i may have just uh so take the they come to the prophet and they quiz him over three things and they ask him and then the quran is revealed in revelation is a response to that but which by extension benefits people as well with its it's going to and these are very interesting questions because one is about a historical figure and one is about metaphysical about the rule

you see they ask about the rule so yes they ask you about the name so whoever the name was the quran doesn't use a name it uses a kind of an uh kind of accolade that the one of two horns or whatever that means now whoever it was it was definitely somebody that the jewish rabbis would have known about and would have held in high esteem this is what it appears allah but it appears that to the reader that they when they are asking the reason they're asking is that you don't know about him

but he's somebody special you ought to know about him if you're you know if you're like if you're a somebody then you ought to know this because he's such an important figure so the question then was who is it that was so important to jews uh that was somebody so so people have tried to guess who could this figure be that was such like a world leader and some people felt well maybe cyrus because he restores the temple of jerusalem the second temple is by courtesy of cyrus who kind of frees the jews from babylon and then sends them back after they've been enslaved so and because he doesn't only send them back he gives

them funding to make the temple and he kind of has a soft spot for the jews and he does have a huge powerful domain and even many of the human rights things um nest the uh some even some of the uh human rights charter will rest itself in uh in some babylonian kind of uh edicts that are put together in his time under cyrus the great he brings all these great great reforms around the world and then darius expands on that and goes into india as well so the question here was some people

felt that maybe it was cyrus maybe it was darius uh i mean we don't know allahu al the quran just leaves it like it's not it's clearly not the important issue the quran is more so trying to tell a lesson that whoever this person was but he did this good whatever the good was and yeah but i get but i i don't know i feel it's uh it's interesting to say it's the prophet sallallahu alaihi primarily not symbolically but narutologically that it is the prophet i mean the question is that why

the the jews of wasanid especially was so much eager about it that why they were asking prophet muhammad actually uh uh using the verse of the surah cafe dr henry tried to explain that actually prophet muhammad first you know confronted byzantine so that's that's a much big deal for the wasani they were actually who were actually troubled by the byzantine on the one side and this has sunny on the other side so for him he they were actually yajuz and the machus the byzantine who was the byzantine with the i saw the byzantine and the sassanids are like the yacht and the sunni tribe was lying in between them so he uses with the quran so when he prophet muhammad what's he

saying about that what's he saying about the hassan he was he was actually uh saying that prophet helped them to get rid of you know the the terror or whatever the warfare in installed by uh byzantines and the sassanids on them because they were the tribes who were you know lying in the middle of these two big dynasties firstly secondly prophet helped them to interpret their own uh scriptures so for second thing is that and uh using the armies of the uh hassani tribe and uh helping him from with the uh sorry with the army of the companions to prophet you know helped them so much so they were

actually they were thinking that you know these these states were associated with only that person and actually not considering prophet israel connect they were actually asking what prophet do you know see but you know if you're going to look at the hassan it's here the sanets were there for um you know generations way before the prophet they were on the western front and they were the client kingdoms to the byzantines their rivals on the other side were the lakhmids so the lakhmids were the client kingdom of the sassanids they were both arabs in the middle so the buffer zone was created by lachmitz are sometimes called the manazera because they're called there are so many

ibn moons there as well so the plural is the and both of these tribes are from the southern arabian kind of tribes that migrated much before and some say through nabataea and then eventually set up now most of them the mid were predominantly christian but they hated each other they the lakhmid and the rasani used to just fight each other they pretty much are at the weak point when islam is kind of rising so they

um in fact the last major from the mid by the way um seemed to be the cultural capital so hera is in the mid where all the major poets and um and all that culture comes from and uh that's with the in the persian side of it so in iraq which falls under the sassanids so the ghasanids do have as well so they do have busra not basara but busara and they have uh they have a few places as well which are are quite kind of uh but

they don't seem to be as domineering as the lachmitts do so the lakhmids seem to be so the lachmans would call themselves like in fact the ancient inscription you have of not this he says the king of all the arabs and this is like a couple of centuries before islam so the last of the lachmit king is then killed by the the kisrah and it kind of all just goes to to pieces after that because he it's obvious it's a story which i've

shared before where he asks for the uh lehman's sister's hand or or daughter's hand in marriage the kisratas and he makes an offensive comment he says something like are there no cows left in in persia for for you to marry like you know you started looking at arab women and then he obviously sends a when he hears this kisrah sends uh i believe it's paris who's the kisser at the time he sends a a group and he has them kill he has him killed he hasn't trampled over actually and kind of like destroyed and not mandatory after he's killed there is no

real like it kind of just falls to pieces they put a little uh a kind of puppet king in but it doesn't work and then shortly after islam khalid bin willied radhilan goes up there and he captures but the i right so i don't know how the the rasanets and the lachmans really play into that they definitely are there they are a weak time um they do hear of um obviously islam and then the later kings amongst them do embrace islam and they do have some issues some of them run back and it is true that the

the greek side seem to maybe have a closer bond because maybe because of the christianity and with with the muslims maybe i don't i don't know but i don't know how that ties in with to be honest but i would love to uh it's always interesting to listen your insight uh get them obviously on this topic as well and any other topic and you know what to do what i was going to say is maybe drop him a message and if he's willing to uh i know he must be really busy because he does a lot of these videos and he has all these power points and i'm sure they

take forever to make and so but if he is willing at some point in the future uh i'd love to inshallah discuss these things with him and be able to ask him clearly because it's it's difficult sometimes asking someone and then maybe you know you've misunderstood and maybe i've misunderstood and maybe it's like when people say about me and they misunderstand what i'm saying and so it happens all the time so he he always says that you know you know to the audience as well that you know if they want to ask the question they have first to go through all what he has been telling you so okay so he just actually he he's actually relating that intermingling with the ghastani uh on the eve of the

raspberry somehow oh sure okay can you give me two minutes more i have two more questions if you allow me uh i was going to move on to another but it's uh okay was it something very brief was it okay it is brief it shows what it is it's about obligation in the quran and as you said that there is no appropriation within quran fm right but okay sorry so you have said that that abrogation relates only to the previous scriptures no i've not said that either okay i've i've said that abrogation as a concept i believe is valid

obviously people disagree what is abrogated i accept that uh where it applies so abrogation is a tool it's like saying chaos analogy is a tool now we may disagree on each other's aspect of where we apply the clears so you might apply chaos here i say that chaos is wrong that analogy is wrong so abrogation as a tool is one discussion in its application is another discussion so people may disagree they you know some say there's 300 verses abrogated some say there's only three some say it's only five some say this only whatever it doesn't that's a different applicability is a different discussion

the tool is a different discussion to me the abrogation of the tool of abrogation is important otherwise how do you abrogate slavery okay in that context so so all these things trajectory hermeneutics is built on on the ability to abrogate prior rulings so it's very important that it does exist and it does exist in the quran how when we they may have a disagreement over it so we'll wrap that up salman okay okay is that right yeah cool inshallah we'll wrap that up guys that was salman from dilly shukran for joining in much love take care stay

blessed people quite a few uh discussions in that we have gone on for quite a while um ah right yeah so we've had quite a few questions about dr hani so this is why yeah i'm not sure somebody said it's the father of yahyan therefore yeah yes brother yeah i know that that's what i but i i don't know i don't know there is if anybody's tuning in you've got to you can do maybe a final quick call and wrap this up but you've got to have your webcam active um

sorry for dozing off a few hours most welcome man take your time all right so we've got uh um um [Laughter]

and share your thoughts or if uh illuminate us with what's in your what's [Music] foreign

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you're just sitting it's candied you're just speaking conversing you're just having a natural conversation and those are sometimes the best conversations somebody recorded it uploaded and then i think then he was he was cool with it he was cool with it to me

foreign how is the the general especially like the middle and the upper middle classes um

philosopher these

are just two sides of the same coin which is wrong okay militant just say uh religious kind of um almost like a fascism basic religious fascism you know the biggest casualty is

you know we have that love for the prophet sallallahu alaihis and we have that love for islam we have so la ilaha and this is this is a true tragedy and i feel that that's and one of the things you know in the arab world the common person can access

such technical language it's it's only the ulama that have the you know the keys i do think i don't know if he's opening a university and foreign

it really was disturbing and uh know somewhat you know obviously in in face of the tragedy is such a big tragedy come as come some happiness in knowing a community of businessmen or whatever

they put together compensation this is who this is the nationals of that area of pakistan you know it's not like don't think pakistan people are all like and there was that person the one who tried to defend him for so long as well

and you know and i feel that that was the true heart of really every muslim okay you know you know if if you walked past you know the story in the bible the good samaritan you walk you know they say you know in in torture there is a powerful technique and obviously you have torturing but just making somebody witness torture is very torturing

you know when the person is being tortured obviously that's torture unquestionably but there's a there's for example there's this adrenaline kicking in there's all these things happening as a as a reaction the one just sitting there witnessing when you witness some something somebody screaming crying this is a fitrah that a person you know fitrat

that but it's horrible stop this like the people stop this this is i have to say that i think shook the world um i hope insha allah that nothing like that ever ever happens again so

foreign this was the natural conclusion

the true message of islam which is about love i understand did this from a position of love somebody told him he did this from position of love tiki he we don't he may have done this from a position

but look it was misplaced it was wrong this even if he was even if for the love of islam for the love of the

they should have spoken up and said that look because look it's true these terrorists that do all these they kill themselves and they say we do and it's psychotic but they've got some kind of in their twisted way the terrorists they have this kind of love they say oh i'm doing this for the love of god and it's psychotic it's twisted in their brain it this may be a love you know it may be a love but it's a wrong love it's a wrongly placed love it's a wrongly interpreted love this is energy put in the wrong place this is not what allah wants this is not you are not serving allah and his

messenger you are this is a disservice to islam this is a you know this is it's an insult to islam that the messenger of allah is a mercy and people are being slain on his name people are being tortured so i think the problem is honestly i feel gabra and they don't know how to deal with it you know it's like

and it's like so because they're all worried about themselves and i think i hope that there's a moderate voice that emerges in places like pakistan and and india india is a bit calmer because obviously maybe people like you know the kind

foreign and this is you know it's like john ilia okay and this is the problem that it's like wow you know allah we can only make dua la tala

because it's honestly it's so i don't you know this is why you don't know it's it's such a you know kids it's like you don't know what to how does somebody deal with that how do they deal with it because people are sometimes just so hard-headed and um you know it's like we have to understand that look the most important thing is compassion and life you know

you know we can't have you know i love this this kind of stuff this is the this is the thing it's it's difficult you know it's i don't know i hope maybe imran khan sets up these universities and you know the younger people like you just say you know they they kind of

develop and and people kind of uh spread this uh a voice of love insha'allah it's it is there you know what i i want to say that i do believe look i lived in pakistan for many years right it i met so many people you know abiya deklo people that watch this you can watch vloggers americans europeans gori other people some africans you get different people they go through pakistan with vlogging you know camera away everywhere they meet love you know

people don't let them they don't let them pay for their food they're like you're a guest in our country absolutely i obviously when i was there i was seen as a pakistani but the point is wherever i went the hospitality logang you so people sometimes get the wrong message and think look everybody over there they're not i feel the majority of the people

are people that of like of pure heart the circumstances you know it's it's problematic may allah make it easy for [Laughter]

you know what let me just read a verse i want to now i have to i get to mokai and then read it if you can especially if it's in urdu with the meaning even if it's one verse if it's a few verses if it's a page alhamdulillah if it's not every day look don't feel guilty feel eager

one is a person starts feeling yeah i'm a bad person oh i haven't read the quran see this just takes you down the other way is ah yeah i haven't got to read it it's been it's been a whole week yeah it's like i'm missing out on something let me read a verse and just just you'll seek with the quran that you'll have this relationship and and that's what it is i you know if i can say one little message i would say that that the attitude with which we approach

the quran of of eagerness of keenness of love and then even just a bit you know it's it's it's good and allah bless you allah for coming on take care stay blessed people omar ismail all the way from wow we have really gone on so we've got to wrap this up um what if i oh my god that's 4 30.

yep that's four and a half hours people four and a half all right i've got to sign out much love to all of you honestly i really shook and i love just really engaging with you all honestly i love kind of being able to talk being able to communicate this is a gift from god this just being able to do this is a gift and i love it so shukran and may allah bless everyone who's going through whatever struggle in life and we're all going through our own struggles and may allah bless us all may he make us be a source of positivity for

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