Believe! And You Will Achieve | Meaning With MALM #43

Salaam let me just bring this up mm-hmm right hello right I'm just gonna wait for some of you to come live Let's do an audio check all right the audio is good

Nora love bless you right so Bismillah alhamdulillah welcome back to another episode and session of meaning with Mom

so I wanted to let me just take a look at if all right hopefully I can I'm right whilst you guys are just tuning in I'll just take a look who's who's live with us I'll bring up as well some of what I wanted to go through today all right so let me just bring this up um

here we are [Music] right there it is okay whoa this is what I wanted to look at today believe and you will achieve Allahu Akbar I wanted to explore some of the prophetic guidance on that and then the quranic teachings so how the Quran and Sunnah give us some insight to this principle of believe and you will achieve

and in light of that I want to take a look at a great debate that I feel is still very relevant today um it's a classical debate um from the 19th century relief from the father of between what is the father of almost modern psychology or at least American psychology William James and between William Clifford an English [Music] mathematician stroke philosopher and physicist and it's on the nature of belief and I feel that

fundamentally speaking even though a lot more has happened in our times this debate is still very relevant for our times and that's discussing the the debates centers on does should we believe in God this was the and by extension other beliefs um and is it absurd or is it impermissible to believe in God almost this is the and we've still got different manifestations of that debate going on today between atheists and and

people of faith so okay so that's something I want to explore as well and just show you a bit of what's gone on in history So you you're familiar with this debate but firstly first and foremost let's see who's tuned in so Nora once again from Florida I hope the Florida hurricane is now settled and you're all well inshallah um Scorpio of right how are you doing how are you keeping we've got to get back with um

you know with with the book club um book Lounge it just been um you know a crazy crazy time people and yeah a lot had been going on and um those of you that are familiar um my mother's health so shipping diagnosed unfortunately with uh what appears to be stage four

of bowel cancer and that's you know it's been tough on everyone and um we got the I mean we got and some insights into it about a month ago but without having a clear understanding where it is they weren't sure they needed to do scans they needed to do a biopsy to further ascertain and then only just actually last week um

yeah last week on Wednesday we so it's just been a week this is why I couldn't do last week's session it was just a heavy um just a heavy day and um yeah and then what happened is um you know I I think we just Sometimes some things that you know the weight of them it by its nature it you know it brings you down by the very

nature you know by the very just reality of what they are or just like you know by by what they are so but I think yeah by the maybe a day later I with a certain amount of rest and and you've got to let things sometimes this is the nature of dystonia as well when things afflict us we've got to sometimes just let them take their toll on you know the there's the instant there's the shock there's the the absorbing that shock

and then once that's the impact the the immediate impact has taken place and happened then you rise again so I think after probably a day of it then you know we which we had to rise back really with positive Spirits because what else is there ultimately in the face of these things and I think that you see I mean we're doing

our thing you know everything we can you know we're looking into I've really been looking into me my siblings as well we've been really looking into a lot of other things as well just um I'm really surprised actually by the stuff I've come across online on YouTube just uh talks the stuff I've then read up on on things like diet and food and and we're doing our thing and there's certain you know alternate kind of uh methods I guess um adopting them and then more importantly we're all also just all the

you know I'm we try it every day be there and um it's a very I must say blessed uh atmosphere it feels like you know in some ways because it doesn't you know it's strange that in life we we're so absorbed with the day-to-day with the run-of-the-mill that we um we're part of the rat race that we don't get a chance to maybe sit back and and appreciate life and

and in some ways the way the whole family pulls together comes together just the atmosphere of just being there all the kids everybody's kids you know the whole thing it's like the only time that there was some you know resemblance of that is really Eid and so in some ways it's almost like an aid every day you know there's a um um there's this positivity to it and this uh this kind of love and and I think ultimately you see

life and death is in the hands of Allah if Allah has decreed that that is it then that is it you know you've lived your time on Earth it is for you to to embrace every moment up until then but if Allah has not written your time yet then nobody can say it differently and you it is upon us to just really absorb life in you know and so yeah so that's what's been going on I've been yeah but in that but we're all kind of now alhamdulillah I mean there's a lot of uh

you know we've we've risen again with a lot of positive spirit given the circumstances but in many ways I think sometimes you know the the the the the vulnerability and precarious nature of life is that you know you you'll hear of these cases somebody that they're doing something and there's an accident and and that's it they've gone or you'll hear that somebody suddenly just had heart failure and that's it and in fact we're hearing

a lot more of these heart failures recently I don't know why that is whether it's and here I see link to but the point is that we're hearing a lot of these things and so in some ways they're that there is a a blessing in being able to absorb every moment of life with people that you love with um you know with Barakat with blessings and barakah so yeah so

that's what's been going on in addition to a bunch of other things you know the usual um my whole routine for about a month has been different I in light of um I won't speak too much about this but in light of these recent circumstances I've really also given my diet since I started looking into all of these I've given my diet a shake up so I've really just cut out um certain excess junk things I've kind of just cut them

out all kind of fizzy drinks as much of kind of nonsense junk you know like hyper processed food um to whatever I can to the extent and then I've introduced certain things I've been watching a lot of these videos a lot of these lectures TED Talks podcasts um and just introduced certain uh you know certain kind of super greens and superfoods and just into the diet along with certain um kind of plant extracts and stuff um and just a lot more of this you know

just taking care of of the self and um even if I am doing what I'm doing but uh water intake green tea I've been really shocked on on the research I've been coming across these simple kind of things like that how powerful they they score in um as antioxidants and things but yeah but it's been what's been shocking is that only just within what has been under two weeks really just just over a week the better part of like maybe a week and a half but the shocking transformation I felt just within me I've been like wow okay

what the hell how have I been abusing my body for damn I have to say honestly it's shocking how positively um my kind of if I can say gut health had just improved within just a week I've been like well okay so yeah and and and this too is by you know virtue of if of the tragedy of what um you know we're going through and primarily my mother's going through and

and I see sometimes you know it's it's almost poetic um that in our tragedies our personal tragedies we perhaps give life to other people around us it's it's wow you know it's honestly it's something if we think about it but I want to say you guys much love for all your love and you know you guys have really uh you know you honestly you guys are amazing and Allah bless you all uh right let's see who else have we got

Jamil all right or on my way going south like many currencies you know have tawakul that's what today's session is about half double yep heart failures are linked to we all know it but don't get your yep I I stopped short of saying it yeah um

all right um yes bless your father's afterlife I mean I mean and you know may he Grant you is in this time of difficulty for you yeah somebody said TED Talks are manipulated but yeah that's true that's true but I've been watching a lot of um different things and just doing my own kind of research really and uh yeah right who else have we got all right yeah pomegranates absolutely man

absolutely I've uh yeah there's a lot of stuff there's a lot of these kind of raw plant extracts as well you get this um a graviola is uh meant to be really powerful as well helpful especially for people going through uh you know for I mean as an anti-tumor and that kind of stuff but but it's it promotes overall good health for people as well just boosts the immune system but there was a another it's called something like Cloud oh you ask or something sounds a bit like Ayahuasca but it's not it's actually got part of the same plant but not the

hallucinogenic thing but that's really good as well for men's health and a bunch of these things I've been really getting into them um right okay let's take a look at what you guys are going through right um right opinion on yeah I think it's uh let's actually begin here and then I want to go through some uh uh poems and as we usually do to begin I'd put some on there Nora and much love you really didn't

have to you appreciate your love and support Allah keep you blessed um Iran yeah you know it's so sad what is going on in Iran right now really I mean it is horrific you know this was never Islam to go around you see what people are doing is they are making I'm not saying that's their intention but the consequence

is that they are making people hate Allah on his messenger and that is such honestly that is such a burden to to carry that if you are responsible for people distancing themselves from God and His messenger because of your words your actions your pathetic inability to to handle um situations that's on you that's on you man so that's you know

this this kind of Iran its regime this whole thing with the uh hijab this is not Islam to go around beating people like this and and and they that with the whole um what's her name I'm not sure how they how she pronounced it but this whole case you know Allah bless her soul she's passed away and they uh this what seems to be a cover-up of police brutality they really need to

stop these whole you know this religious police because the truth is power corrupts see you can't trust people it's like you know when somebody came to Imam Malik and they asked him about this kind of impositional attitude and they they asked him a particular thing and he said well you know he said no that does a person need to obey certain

Authority and these two parental Authority and and it was on this was on matters of talaq and things but the but the example that Imam Malik is giving where he says no and the person says but Omar told his son and he had to obey you know this is where they try to correct the teacher you know the humby hair you know it's like you know don't forget that I too I'm here

so imma Malik said he said sure if you can bring me a father like Omar then I will say but these parents today and this isn't a disappearance but he was trying to say people have agendas at play they have politics I play let's not be naive let's not pretend and you know you give a bunch of people Authority to go around you know wielding the whip in the name of God and you think they won't be corrupted by that

you know you're naive if you think they won't be corrupted by that so so now there's this incredible protest and it's just and it's amazing that it's not getting as much coverage from the rest of the world um and women are just fed up in Iran and they really this whole thing I wonder you know ya salaam there seems to just be an unrest in the world I hope that you know things can just reach a state of calm I mean

but yeah I don't know what's going to unfold the I just you know this is not the way of Allah and his messenger you know it's not the way you know even if they follow the where did the prophet ever go around saying to smack people and do things like this where where did he say this and you're forgetting in Islam the whole thing took such a long period I mean the longest period of the prophet's prophethood was in Makkah where there was nothing but just saying look just

build a relationship between you and God there was nothing else there was no people did pray but they weren't mandated Some People Prayed others didn't and then before a few years before the Hijra you know the Salah was then introduced but for the better part for that decade first no and people weren't and just look at the verses of the Quran

you know the cleanse your clothes your garments you know standard price be just be you know just just develop a cultivating relationship and then in Medina it was it was incrementally introduced and it wasn't just like you know when the Hadith says that if Hadith Islam the rulings come down suddenly most many of the people or most of the people would have rejected them

it took decades you know you just because now Islam is here doesn't mean in the fitra of insan has changed so sure you know we look this is look this is how we do it be an example an example of compassion an example of kindness smile doesn't matter if people it's not their time yet go easy on them go hard on yourself if you want to go hard you know if you wanna

bully someone bully your own ego don't you know get somebody else you wear the hijab what the hell is this about it's her relationship with God what does call the yaht say a great legendary Maliki dawn of Muslim Spain 900 years ago half head of Hadith one of the greatest Scholars of Hadith this ummah produced and he wrote one of the the dearest biographies on the prophet ashifa he called it the Cure we'll just call the Yahtzee he says the obligation is not on the women he says the obligation is on the men to lower

their gaze I'm sorry he says whether the women cover or not that's their you know that's between them and God so you know if these people are going to lash their own eyes if it's that difficult for them but don't look don't create a hatred between people and garden is Messenger that that's that's that's a grave thing so yeah you know if you want to do something do it with love just do it

people you know their time will come you know people they're you know it's not that maybe it's not their time now it's okay I'm sure there was a time for all of us when something was in our time with you know with a certain age with a certain thing we think oh right okay you know it's now our time maybe some things it's still not our time but it's okay yeah um

right okay so uh right okay now let's go to bringing this up a lot a lot I thought today from Maulana Hafiz you know this is an interesting one for I have learned that every heart will get what it prays for most because more than anything what this is saying is that

what preoccupies your heart becomes your reality think about that or preoccupies your heart becomes your reality and Allah has made it in a way that's part of the Divine algorithm so yeah and right so and today really focusing on belief and especially the element of Reliance but Iman itself having faith and this is an interesting one and you know whether

it's nested in the gospel of Matthew or not but that your faith can move mountains but this this part and your doubt can create them I love that I mean that you know your faith can move mountains and your doubt can create them this is an anonymous quote but it's it's a so you see it's all in the mind

ah it's amazing huh it's amazing you know when a person has the faith to do something there's a what's that yeah I'd have forgotten his name the there's a Bollywood movie actually uh made is based on a real life story um I've forgotten the guy's name now but they were calling him the mountain man it was it had um what's his name acting it really solid actor nawazuddin Siddiqui and and the movie is about this remote

Village it's based on a true life story where you can search it but it's where they live in this remote rural area and and to get to the local town you have to Traverse this mountain and and there's always difficulties but I mean his wife dies because he's trying to get her to some help and she dies along the way with this mountain and then he takes the you know this ah upon himself to break this mountain and what spans I believe over two decades of his life every day he comes with a hammer and he eventually he he breaks the mountain he makes a

passageway through the mountain I mean that that is the faith of insan that I can do this that I can break an entire Mountain it's crazy but it's a very inspiring movie honestly wow um but you guys will if you if you Google him it will come up but yeah that's um and Faith does that Faith does that to us and for us that your faith can move mountains and this really something we know all the

time if you believe it you can achieve it right now so that's what we're going to focus on today this I saw you know every week I have some poems I see them and I think cello let's let's share them this is a fascinating one um honestly [Laughter]

foreign we lived an entire lifetime [Laughter] he says that first the first he says at first the moments the kind of the portions of us the single portions of a day of an evening

portion of an evening was Everlasting like we couldn't get beyond that and then eventually we lived an entire lifetime you know in many ways this could tie into many things it could tie into love it could tie into abandonment but he could tie into a person's relationship with God a good time to a kind of remorse of having reached a certain stage of life and then thinking wow you know it could tie into passions see that's the beauty of poetry it ties

into whatever wherever you however you look at it that's how it appears to you so I thought yeah let's share that and this was just this one came up I was like this is from this is really popular that yet

foreign by separation one doesn't truly die that you know nobody they don't just truly die because they've been separated from someone says that said may Allah never separate a person from who they don't want to be separated from that's wow you know honestly in poetry with such simplicity

how these people they their words Pierce our hearts and soul you're taking him wow an epic he's an epic poet as it is right okay so that's that I wanted to then move into let's take a look at some comments and then we'll move into the the session um yeah yeah mole Jane that's deep it

really is this poetry really it hits you man seriously you know sometimes on many a days it's been an it's been such an empowering companion and inspiring um from whom I can take solace I can take inspiration I can find strength find laughter poetry honestly never fails never fails um

yeah right it's an interesting name okay he was just watching your videos before Fajr here in India Allah bless you amen [Music] um right let's see what's uh

that having faith thingy doesn't apply to learning coding though [Laughter] maybe it does you know you know maybe it does because you see what we value in this world comes back to how it ties into our story foreign so yeah that's um so I think in many ways why do some things become

valuable to you why do some things all of a sudden impress you you know it's sometimes we have it's amazing isn't it insan and in Sun's perspective we have in life oracles that they may be our personal oracles so for some reason if this person whoever they are they may be so it's more a um let's say it's a it's a platform it doesn't have to be a digital platform

but it's a it's a placeholder that may be preoccupied by multiple people throughout our lifetimes but these people their opinion matters to us for whatever reason it may be that you know we look up to them that we're just kind of inspired that we think oh these people are so cool uh it may be that we just are in awe of them or it may be that we are romantically interested in them or it may be that we are just so impressed by they they know how their knowledge it

may be it may just be inexplicable we don't know why but there's just this person maybe they're not even so super you know they're not these Geniuses but they're just people that to us they occupy that placeholder that their opinion matters for whatever reason those people when they say something that is like an oracular oracular kind of message for it it's like an oracle

so we take that to heart and it's amazing it can change our entire you know so somebody said coding you could think coding is oh this is pathetic or this is I mean this isn't about coding but it could be about anything and all of a sudden somebody that we who who who matters whose opinion matters says that they like it and we are like well you know what actually it's quite cool it's true though isn't it you get people you could for example hate a particular clothing you could maybe hate something

about yourself maybe you hate the way your eyes are your noses your faces your features you hate something about yourself or you or maybe hate is a strong word or you're just don't like or you feel insecure about something or you feel that you're um and it or it could just be about a certain thing that you do or the way you do something and then some person whose opinion just holds value likes it or complements it to you

and all of a sudden in that moment it's as though the algorithm of your as though life's algorithm for you is recoded in that moment that you actually think well actually ah this is actually quite it's happened to I'm sure all of us on many things and I wish it happens more and more because you know human beings we totally honestly we are incredibly beautiful in in all of our manifestations in our

skills in our talents in in us as human beings in in our Legacy in our interaction we but but we forget that and sometimes it's not that we forget it sometimes it's that we we've never been made aware of it so being made aware of these things it can radically change and I think that's a good thing as well that if you happen to be a you know in that place a holder for someone else in life I think you know you should and there's certain

things about people that are good or dessert praiseworthy or you know I think it's always good to give those compliments to because they've redefine people's lives um Andrea Taylor Allah bless you shukran for the Super Chat and roofie he has always Allah bless you and keep you guys smiling I mean uh right what I think

is cool um can a person be good be what oh can a person I thought you said can a person be God can a person be a Muslim but not love God right so interesante I feel that you know in these circumstances when people say they don't love God it's it's not that they don't love God it's that

they are going through tough time they are hurting that they have been really you know they've found themselves in the throes and vicissitudes of fate yeah and they're upset and they're upset with God because they feel that God ultimately has all control so why doesn't he change it on yeah

and it's not I feel that you know sometimes people some people they they'll hurl criticism are people like this they'll be like what the hell how dare you you know say things like this in here and I feel that you know that I mean I can understand what people getting offended because they're thinking oh my God you know you're not allowed to the sensitivities and God we can't speak about God like this but it's that these people their relationship you know it's this I mean

not as this is It's a pathetic approximation it's not you can't use this as a approximation Arabic they say but it's like just to akin to give some approximation the way a child becomes upset with his or her parent over something and the child's like oh I hate you I you know like a little kid having a tantrum because something's not right they're not allowed to do something or they can't do something or something

hasn't worked out or you know with kids it's all it could be almost you know over anything and they get angry I hate you and you know kids emotions are just like sheer emotions [Laughter] oh there's a beauty in that as well you know it's uh but it's ins you see intimations of that in these people with their relationship with God that this this kind of episode that's happening

and I think just let people be you know it's like the child having this like it's just let them like it's not true to tell the child or I'll shout or to kind of try to no like it's that they'll inshallah that they will understand with time that you see this this chapter that you're in this page that you're on this story it will yet tie into another chapter things this is the thing things only

make sense in the end you know it's it's all in hindsight and so here may Allah bless everybody's journey and make it easy right I wanted to take a look at this um here I want to take a look at this concept of belief to achieve so before we go into the quranic guidance I'll what I'll do is I'll go into this I'll explain this then we'll cover the other session then I'll share the link and if anybody wants to jump on they're more than welcome

okay I'll take some live uh callers so right so this believe and you can achieve this true sense of belief Iman it's it's tied it has an intricate inextricable bond with tawakul with Reliance with this kind of trust now there is a Hadith um it's transmitted in

mustard I mean this is taken from here this particular copy from IBN rajab's um but here this Hadith is a very famous Hadith you've all heard of it and he says that the prophet said that if you were to truly have faith and Reliance on God as it ought to be

foreign that he would be providing you in accordance with your belief as he provides the birds that fly free that the birds when they leave their nest in the morning they have they live with empty stomachs not knowing

where or how they will find their risk but they return at night with their stomachs being fed you know having been fed that with full stomachs [Music] they come back with with stomachs full and this is a really fascinating Hadith because it is there's a very famous scholar of Hadith and he says that this is the foundation

really for for the teaching of Reliance in Islam it's this Hadith this is the Asal of tawakul in this theme that wow and it's so just look how it captures it because you could think well right but why is oh you see this this metaphor of

he will bring the risk to you as he brings it to the birds but you see what did the birds have to do they have to have that trust and then they have to LEAP into the take that leap of faith [Laughter] scary as hell but Allah enables the birds float impossibly almost through the year gliding LED unbeknownst to them

to their Divine Providence and risk so you see the thing here is that if you have the faith you have to leap for the opportunities when they come so it's you can't just sit there you take that leap you have to catch those opportunities and Allah will make sure that you get them but you have to go you see this you see that there's an interplay so I so I think that's such a a

beautiful way to begin this discussion with this Hadith of of the birds being fed so with this I wanted to take a look at three verses of the Quran verse 268. and then Surah verse 15. and then Surah baqarah again coming back to Surah baqarah 186 and there is a dynamism between these verses okay and this is all about faith having faith because really whether we

like it or not we are still believing in things the fact that you will go to sleep today believing that you will awaken tomorrow it is a belief our whole lives are built within our minds on a belief system the whole and we'll speak a bit about this when we're going to come to the psychology debate about belief between William James and William Clifford but this you see we

we are so deeply intertwined in beliefs but what you choose to believe ah this this is the powerful point so foreign such a powerful verse

and in some recitations but that the shaytan promises you you know the negative thoughts they promise you they frighten you what does promise here mean when you promise somebody what what is that when I promise you or you promise me or you promise someone you're telling them oh this is gonna happen I'm gonna I'll be there I promise I'm gonna be there it's gonna happen

I will give this to you on this day it's gonna happen you see so this is right we've got some look at this we've got some um Tinder adverts coming up trying to pollute our DARS right so

coming back to this thousands of electron regime that is that would hear this negative the source of all negativity this is the shaytan promising what's gonna happen oh oh you'll be impoverished

you'll be impoverished oh there's going to be poverty oh man you know this is gonna happen there's going to be there's going to be poverty if you do this oh you want to give in charity ah man you know these are precarious volatile times you want to help someone man you need to save that money for yourself and here poverty can be in wealth but it can be in many things

it can be in time so wealth of course it can mean time it can be in emotions who you share your love with who you share your positivity with do you share opportunities with who you share uh who who you you can share all kinds of resources with you can sure wealth as well that's one of them but it's not restricted to but what is the shaytan promising you that oh what's gonna happen if you do this you're gonna be left wanting

you're gonna be left short so foreign now here many people uh you'll find [Music] um they argue that fascia here means so many of them of a serine quoting about Muslim and other people they say this here means that you know withholding but even if it meant indecency that it could mean either indecency or

it could mean a lot of the mofacilities say here it means this kind of Farish in Arabic does mean something that is withholding as well which is strange because it's almost it's tied into the understanding of um is tied into the understanding of indecency orbs obscene which in a way is withholding one could save that kind of good character there's this kind of bond but can mean that um in in Arabic as well so In classical Arabic

this negativity you know you're about to do something good you see something you think yeah you know I wanna I wanna get involved I want to help this person I want to contribute towards something I want to teach this young person a skill I want to give a bit of my time towards this I want to express more of my love and do all of these things it could be anything

here you hit you get these voices ah but if you do that this is gonna happen people will take you to be a fool people will you know they will exploit you people will do this to you you'll be left with less money you'll be left with less time you'll be left with you see this

what's interesting is Allah then contrasts Allah now check this out the first word Allah says but what does God promise you what's gonna happen is an interesting word it's used to mean it can mean forgiveness but here it doesn't necessarily mean just that it means like a subtle failing a covering

Veil what for what your shortcomings your the gaps Allah will have them covered for you it's interesting because in Arabic AR is also a helmet in because it it's it's a veil it kind of protects so the famous Hadith that the prophet entered

he's wearing this helmet so this failed you know even these thoughts you've thought negatively you've got this horribleness to you to worry Allah has placed to fail over it Allah and well fodlin Allah will promises you so much abundance of Grace

Ali allies so fast in what he gives and Allah ends it by saying knowledgeable MO all-knowing so yes you're hearing these negative voices hold back don't be that kind to people people are going to take you to be you know they're gonna take you for granted you give an inch people take a mile you're going to be kind to someone they're just going to exploit you and that is true people it doesn't mean people don't do these things you give in charity oh my God you know

you could do with that money you could spend it yourself on something you could help orphan children you could help but now but you could use it on yourself do this to oh my God this is happening winter time is coming there's an energy crisis there's this going on there's Russian Ukrainian you know there's the whole Russia Ukrainian war going on this is happening that's a relax Ali

Allah has got this but you need to have that faith but we are constantly this this fear of of this being impoverished being Stripped Away this is like an inherent fear that we have as humans this is why the second verse honestly it's certain it ties in dynamically to that verse from Surah fatir verse 15.

hear your nurse Anthony you people you are poor people what the hell is wrong with you you know it's a reality check you are always in every single thing in need of God foreign

Rich of any needs from you but then why end with the word hamit and many of them all these people they write because when Allah says he's absolutely independent he's Rich of any needs from you the understanding in this world that you get is when people are like that they don't want anything to do with you and they don't give you anything they don't Allah says yet people are so they're so happy with God that they're constantly praising God

because he gives incessantly you know it's interesting guys I was remember I I mentioned that I've been looking into all these diets and stuff and food and it's just so it's like you know it's revelatory what what you learn foods that are so healthy foods that are like anti-cancerous and all these kind of things and just generally so positive for your body and part of this uh I was looking into

things like you get intermittent fasting and fasting for what maybe three days or five days as in with water and with with drinks as well or with water under you know certain kind of supervision but it's shocking that what happens is even this intermittent fasting where people will eat but they will Fast let's say a certain whether they'll begin with 12 hours maybe 16 hours of the day they end up fasting they build it up their tolerance what this triggers

is what is called autophagy a state where the self kind of it goes into this internally it goes into this um this kind of reboot mode and it releases and activates so much regeneration within you and it resets all this kind of um damage it will promote stem cell kind of regeneration it promotes obviously at certain done to certain extremes

but it's shocking because this there's a Hadith I was saying this to some of my mates actually I said that it's so shocking that there is a Hadith of the prophet sallallahu that fast you will improve in good health but it's almost counter-intuitive isn't it because to people they think well I'm not eating and this is associated with the poor you know it and it's so shocking that many things Allah has hidden them in plain sight

but sometimes it's it's so in plain sight that we uh that it's we can't see it and obviously by the way as a disclaimer you know for these kind of prolonged fasting there it does depend on people if they're already you know very kind of underweight and things like this then these things can be dangerous and if they've got certain health conditions then they can be dangerous but uh that's the prolonged for several days but generally it's shocking how

such things are have been hidden in a way that the poor constantly have access to it it's amazing like you know if you go onto YouTube and type this stuff in and just watch and you can watch interviews you can watch podcasts you can see the research you can see presentations you can and research yourself it's so but it's amazing that people won't do it because you see the very thing of people who've the very thing of the rich is to distinguish themselves from the

poor so the fact that they will they will eat to show that we are not poor you see so people are often doing things just as now it's out of habit but it's in essence just as a statement to show that oh we're not Paul we we can afford things and it's ironic you see that in that simplicity

is hidden an elixir of life it's crazy honestly it's just like wow and and our egos come in the way I think I ego and also you know a sense of a lack of knowledge as well but also at times an ego will come into and this verse reminds us that yeah what the hell are you guys going on about you guys up you guys are the ultimate poor in comparison to God Like You are the forkara foreign

it's beautiful honestly you have to just grasp that shocking when you think of it wow that how these things have been and I was thinking about this I thought you know honestly it really made me think that we have a whole month in a year Ramadan where if we were to do that properly it could trigger enough autophagy to regenerate and reset our systems for the rest of the year maybe if we topped it up here in the

with some occasional kind of um I was just thinking wow that's like such uh and it's just coming to appreciate that just now I'm like wow but we don't I don't you know I'm guilty of this we don't really I do Ramadan like that unfortunately we're like as soon as iftar with the samose obviously in that way it all goes to waste but I mean it doesn't go two ways but the healing properties of it go to waste

and it's it's yeah somebody said Dr Rhonda yeah exactly and there's many Dr Rhonda Patrick um there's yeah autophagy um it's it's crazy that sometimes the um this is what I'm saying that you know it's Leonardo da Vinci as he said that the highest Simplicity is the highest form of sophistication that it's so simple that you you would never imagine but it's so true it's like wow and we forget that sometimes you know we have extra meals and we just constantly eat

and eat and eat and it becomes almost a sign of who we are as well and a symbol a status for insan and he's a or her accomplishments but really yeah you are always you're nothing but impoverished beings to God and always in need of God foreign

and this really dynamically ties into this verse from Surah baqarah 186 that is that when my people ask about me this is God saying Allah

that all you had to do was ask and God is already there is a I've respond to the one who seeks of me when they seek of me this daan is okay in some recitations it's written with the knee but here Dan in most of the the kind of dialects foreign

to me in their prayers let them have faith have faith in the hope that they find their path see it's amazing because here there's three things that are given as a method one they turned to God okay that you call upon because when you call upon something it gives you strength

Lee while you mean let them have faith in their hearts the second thing and then let them in the hope that they find their path and these things are intricately bound together your path Finds Its purpose from your belief and your belief from what you can call out to there's there's an inextricable bond between these three may Allah make things easy for us all

and solidify our faith I mean it is truly the most powerful potion the most powerful uh thing that we hold dear that that we that really maybe unbeknownst to us but shapes our very existence may Allah bless it for all of us I hope that's been of some help um I'll take a look at some of the comments on right okay so

all right and let's see yeah there are still benefits to Ramadan fasts like increasing insulin sensitivity yeah now that's the point uh good because I was saying that Ramadan is an epic opportunity for us to do it but it's just that over the years people we you know and I'm guilty of this uh you know too that we really Feast out with all the kind of

sugary and fatty foods and and then that because we're overloading the system it does away with some of the you know what what we could have like that we could increase insulin sensitivity because that's what happens in life and as South Asians you know it's shocking there was this clip I need to share it I'm going to share it I'll find it if I can I'll share it with the Discord group first if I'll get hold of I'll try and track it but there was this clip where or I may have actually shared it actually yeah I think I did so this this clip where this doctor is explaining how colonization

re-engineered uh South Asian genetics because of the famine that the British caused and the British were there for so long when you're thinking you know the better part of well formally about one century but they were actually there for about three centuries okay so now during this time what they were inflicting upon the the local kind of residents with the East India Company for so long and then Queen Victoria officially declaring the British Raj in 1857.

but during this time when they what they inflicted on the locals with the farming and the mass starvation for Generation upon generation it hardwired the the genes to really store certain uh energy sources and and this is and and in that clip the doctor is explaining that this is why you find the genetics of South Asian people compared to their counterparts are drastically ridiculously uh um you know magnified when it comes to

things like diabetes and when it comes to heart disease just because of how our bodies and G because we are think about it our grandparents that's all it was our grandparents were alive in the British Raj and our great-grandparents were definitely suffered under that was suffering so that's not actually that many generations when you think about it to pass the genes on so this is why if you are from of South Asian descent if you're Desi

and you have a slightly you know higher you know waste ratio like it's just slightly some weight around the waist you are there is a very strong possibility that you will become diabetic it's not like uh you know it's it's like what was the statistic something like I think six times more likely than just your regular counterpart to become diabetic and to have this kind of some coronary heart diseases then your regular counterparts like ridiculously

higher like it's abnormally in like monstrously higher so yeah it's it and then the other things as well what hasn't helped is our you know it's it's like the the diets as well because people you know it's like these doctors they said to all these they see people here you know they said like you need to get off stop eating butter and stop eating you know like a few decades ago they're like what the hell you need to eat oils you stop all this butter and something and the oil's been bloody it's been carcinogenic and it's been causing Cancers and causing all this kind of heart disease and causing and now they're like oh my God

we got it wrong you know butter is actually quite healthy ghee is actually believe it or not healthy and it's actually healthy for the heart I mean you'd never think that ghee is actually healthy for the heart and you think you know I guess our grandparents would always have that anyway but yeah yeah so

I told my parent need to more or less meat and they drown from [Laughter] but you know honestly I was shocked to learn this about um about the about the key because it's it's amazing that you'd never think that it's actually quite it's actually healthy and these oils are so dangerous and toxic so right so these oils out of all of them very few are actually okay healthy like you might get uh olive oil for example or coconut oil which may be okay of of you know healthy but if you

heat these especially even olive oil to a certain level which many people do when they're cooking curries and things if the oil gets heated to that level then it can it it just becomes uh very unhealthy to the body and it loses any of its positive kind of traits and just becomes something very difficult for the body to then deal with and obviously maybe in small portions it's not that bad but over time it builds up so yeah these are things I think to you know small Implement implementations to make

uh passed away tell us your opinion on his views he had indeed various different opinions here may Allah bless his afterlife and Grant him an elevated he he has passed away Sheikh Yusuf doctors uh yeah I didn't really I don't think I did an episode that we can I never spoke about that but here we make Dua I think you know we need more and more Scholars like that who are prepared to who are prepared to think

for their day and age to make to increase the dynamism the interaction between people and their faith because doing was he was trying to bring um a perspective of the faith to people that really stems from and makasid and Muslim to be fair is really truly a Maliki thing you know the school of Medina of Imam Malik even though I don't think Dr yousafari was Maliki but he was

his whole philosophy was stemming from that kind of um that angle of makasid and muscle have welfare and objectives of the Sharia so that the Sharia is always its aim is the welfare of people and I think you know people in his uh I think before recently they it got political but let's say a few decades ago it wasn't political about Dr Houston I think people just attacked him it wasn't really fair they used to attack him they

used to think he's so liberal by today's standards he wasn't I don't think he was that liberal I mean sure I mean he was liberal but he wasn't nothing shocking by today's standards in fact you'd see he's actually quite strict on certain on many things so it's just that I think he was saying some things in a time like in the 90s when nobody was saying certain things but those things already existed in the books but it's just our scholarship was either unaware of it or they were refusing to disclose

it because maybe they felt in the name of safeguarding people from immorality they wouldn't for do full disclosure on what all the ulama of the past have said so they would only select the ulama you know who's lying there Towing who you know who they are in line with so Dr Yusuf Al carbawi started to give fatawa he's his famous book Islam and you know they would name it

try and take the mick out of it in Islam and they they said we should call it because allegedly they're trying to say he's saying everything is halal and in that he'll speak about masturbation and he speaks about these kind of things but these topics are old and ancient and it's just because of either the poor scholarship of the ulama or the lack of transparency that they adopted and disclose disclosure that they

um you know upheld because this wasn't being discussed but now look they're all saying this you know you're going to get Dr Zakir Naik saying the same thing oh masturbation is not Haram you'll get you'll get all these people now you know now all these people are coming round to this you'll get um what's his name you'll get many self you get certain salafi kind of Scholars saying music is not Haram you'll get other people have now come round to the idea but uh it's just that Yusuf Dr Yusuf

al-karnawi was ahead of the Curve so he was doing it when they either didn't know about it and that's then a reflection of the poor research you know because if I don't even know these opinions exist and that's that's a reflection of that reflects poorly on my knowledge all I knew about it but I chose not to tell people because I felt I knew better for them which I think it's you know it's it's very patronizing and it's an infantilization of people to say well you know I know better for you so I will

disclose this from you know I will refuse to disclose this sorry um so yeah so that's the kind of and then there was sectarianism you know sectarianism is the death of faith and it's such a poison honestly beware of sectarianism people beware of it honestly it is wretched if it gets into it's like you know it's a cancer to your Iman and sectarianism was another thing they hated on Dr Yusuf al-qabawi because of that because he wasn't really um sectarian or denominational

and yeah and then recently this whole thing it got a bit more political because of the muslimin and the whole thing but that's only recently now that too it's all politics you know this whole thing it's all politics man you know beware of politics shading your faith applying a filter to your faith it's all politics you know

of my eye it's all that's what it is it's all you know uh smoke and screens so yeah so that's may Allah bless his afterlife I mean um all right what's this question did I miss somebody's Super Chat no I don't think I did right okay so um since Isis harrisoned much love for the Super Chat yard Allah bless you since the police was regarded the best

of Jane in another world or Universe just as a prophet was considered the best of mankind to open up the possibility of Reincarnation of Worlds I'm not sure where it says that Iblis was the best of Jin and I think this is just more mythical it does say in the Quran there is a verse that wakana miniljin but here but it's not clear what that means because if you reading they say here Jinn doesn't mean gen as in virgin but Jin here just means

something unseen um so this is why jyn doesn't always refer to you see so this is another issue that you know when the word Gene is being used what does it mean so um I'm but I'm not sure how that ties into the latter part of your question does this open up the possibility of Reincarnation of Worlds I don't get how that ties into that um I I don't I'm not sure I fully understand the question to be honest so my apologies if it's about reincarnation

generally Muslims don't believe in generally speaking the Islamic faith for the most part doesn't um speak of reincarnation or purported as a view that said certain Muslims uh including certain Sunni Muslims did believe in reincarnation uh including the famous and but their view of reincarnation wasn't what we might think a reincarnation today so today reincarnation

is dominated by the the Hindu version of reincarnation or the Buddhist version so the Hindu version being more popular that you know that this whole samsara of life this cycle of life and you have Karma or Karma and and that is your kind of what you carry with you there's these kind of deeds and if they are bad you are then reincarnated into something worse off and if they are good you are reincarnated into something better off and I guess the highest thing you could

possibly be reincarnated as is maybe a Brahmin from the the upper Priestly class and then if you devote your life to God you could possibly um uh you could escape from this reincarnation by attaining Eternal Moksha and reaching the state of Nirvana now that this is the kind of Hindu very hinduistic so you could be reincarnated as an animal or a tree or a stone or a so that's very Hindu okay and that's uh

this kind of transmigration of souls reincarnation um okay Buddhism is slightly different so it doesn't really it's I mean it's similar-ish but it's not like you're trying to escape this this whole samsara but it's not based on your karma it's just you'll you become reincarnated in an unrelated way so it's like there's even though this cause and effect but the cause and effect is not meaningful in Buddhism so it's like saying well you know they give the analogy often of a

snooker pool one uh ball will hit another and set it into motion but this ball is nothing to do with that ball and it's not a consequence of it so that's more Buddhist uh reincarnation the Muslims who believed in reincarnation so they were like I said they were they are minority of people but they were certain people some from different denominations different sects and a few some sunnis very few minority did believe in uh reincarnation like so worthy I believe so the the philosophers so um

now to them it wasn't it was more what they felt was so if you so right okay so pause that for a moment to understand it you have to look at it like this they didn't believe that every person is reincarnated they didn't believe that but they believed that it's possible that some people get reincarnated and if they do get reincarnated it's not because of something they've done it's just that their roof got to play twice for example

and so this was the kind of thing that they alluded to that's not what most Muslims believe to be fear but so this is it now okay so just to grasp that and then we can you know sum this up their belief on reincarnation so okay let's pause this I hope you know suspend this for a moment all Muslims generally speaking believe in a kind of reincarnation okay uh let me explain what that means but they just don't class it as reincarnation but they believe in account so all Muslims generally

speaking believe that we were Consciousness and we existed as Rua before we existed here in dystonia and we in azeroa were conscious and new things and knew each other so most Muslims actually believe this most Sunni Muslims most Muslims throughout the world they believe that we existed before our souls as which were conscious which was Consciousness um and then it got incarnated because incarnate is from the word you know this uh Carney this like in Spanish carne is meat to get into the meat

so we were then put into the Flesh of this human body so this was like our second existence the in a way but they just don't call this reincarnation but they all believe that the rule existed before so so this and it just didn't just exist it existed and lived and new people new other souls and was conscious and new things and so this is how most Muslims believe that and then they that Soul got incarnated into this flesh in this Dunya and this was

our second thing and then there will be the that's what most Muslims believe although they don't tend to use the word reincarnation I think they don't use it to separate to distinguish us from people who believe categorically in reincarnation like Hindus and other people so to make that difference Muslims generally don't use the word that we were incarnated but they in essence do believe this about the rule now okay so put that aside now the next thing is that let's say you read the

Quran without um let's say you never knew you didn't have much context or you weren't taught uh Akita and you weren't taught these things but you were just given the Quran and you could understand Arabic and you were to read the Quran from scratch many verses in the Quran there are several verses that suggest they inclined towards uh that you have now maybe not everyone but some in those verses speak about two deaths so there are several verse there are

certain verses in the Quran that speak of you being death you being dead that God gave you death then he gave you life then he gave you death then he gave you life and like this there's a few other verses that read this kind of way so now if you didn't know any if you didn't have Creed you would assume that okay some people Live Twice then they get to live twice and that with you come back to those philosophers and Scholars and those people who believed in that Minority

that believed in reincarnation took these verses they took them literally because the verses literally seem to speak of that it seems to assert that you had a death and then you had a life and then you had death again so now most Scholars metaphorically interpret the first death like they say that first death is talking about non-existence and then you had life so they say the first death is a metaphor so this is where generally so most

Muslims do not believe in reincarnation some Muslims did but not in the Hindu sense they just believed that there may be some people who they're Rua it lives this life but Allah allows that same Brewer to play so an analogy would be imagine you're playing a computer game now your character dies now you you the player plays the same game with a different character so that's the kind of analogy that some people but that's not mainstream beliefs and that's not the main thing so I hope that answers the question okay let's

move on now um of right uh to what extent must we maintain Orthodoxy in Islam I've got a detailed clip on shukran Amin much love for the super chat um I've got a very detailed clip on Orthodoxy in Islam do watch that because I won't be able to do that Justice right now and also watch my clip on um

on um what is halal to eat in Islam um it's called something like if you type in the word like halal meat and my name it'll come up I've forgotten the name of the title now it's it's something like uh what can we eat in Islam meet a case study something like this or a case study for diversity now when you in that clip even though I'm speaking about meat as you know prima facie that's the the thing I'm speaking about but by extension I'm speaking about what forms um

a kind of orthodoxical understanding and how diversity is inescapable and it's so hard hitting so do if you if you get a chance to watch that I do have another clip as well I don't know if it's cut out as a clip but if you type in Orthodoxy it's definitely in one of the meaning with malms um so do check that out right okay I wanted to speak a bit about belief and introduce you guys to a debate that took place in the um in the later part of the 19th century

the 1800s and that is between some philosophers a philosopher from England a mathematician a physicist and he wrote this book so his name is William Clifford it's from Cambridge and he was somebody who grew up a Christian but later on really was heavily influenced by the uh more broader secular thought of his age and

he turned against religion in the sense that he deemed it absurd to believe because he had this notion that it is unacceptable and impermissible to believe on insufficient evidence so he writes this book called the ethics of belief and he says it's unethical to have such a belief this is then met by William James who you know refutes him and does a rebuttal of his argument with his work uh the will to the will to believe um so

let's take a look at this I wanted to introduce you guys to this debate because it is very relevant Even in our age you've got there on the left-hand side William James who is a philosopher historian psychologist he's the father of American psychology he was a medical doctor he set up um the first department for psychology in Harvard and the first Department the first school for psychology in the US he set it up and arguably um I mean yeah I mean you had other psychologists around but arguably I I

believe it may have been the first structured school for psychology in the world but definitely um in in in American arguably in the west now he also authored the first textbook in Psychology called the um uh principles of psychology amongst other books and he's contributed profoundly to the field of psychology till this date he's often quoted his his research on the concept of the self uh on Consciousness on the will to believe on so many things I mean he's very profound and he was a person who

believed in God um and it's fascinating he he says you know he has this book on you know uh what is it nitrous oxide so you get that and that I know it's a bit of a uh an epidemic amongst young people they are in the UK you know you get this NOS can canisters these kind of balloons that people fill up the balloons now in small quantities and things this may not be that dangerous but in large quantities it can be very dangerous and

if done recklessly and by the nature of people being young people you know it's kind of bound into it the element of recklessness and so you're getting a lot of people by these massive canisters full of NOS of nitrous oxide sometimes called laughing gas and they will just you know just uh kind of Zap themselves out with it and it can cause neuronal damage resulting in all kinds of things so yeah that's something but nitrous oxide which was being experimented with in William James's

time and it was quite novel uh he gets high on it and he gets so high and he keeps testing himself pushing himself to the limits on times results and he writes that it was only on nitrous oxide that he when he was so high he finally got to understand what Hegel was on about in his philosophy that's hilarious and he he writes about it he's got a he's got some writing on right so that's crazy so that's William James but otherwise I mean not to don't don't let that taint your uh perspective

on him he's a he's a very dignified personality very respected till this date you know people still speak very profoundly of him his uh I cited him quite a bit when I spoke of the whole um the numinous experience and especially on the psychedelics because he defines really he has uh you know significant contribution on the mystical experience and his what he he he he brings down the four factors which you can put as the word pint

which is passivity ineffability um noetic Quality and transients so that's but I've spoken about that in in other sessions but that's William James um who's around as you can see from 1842 uh to 1910 so really people you've got alive at this kind of time in other parts of the world are like is alive you know the great poets you know all this the British are about to declare uh you know British Raj in

India that kind of stuff is going on in that side of the world um in England you've got William Clifford as you can see there look at that beard you gotta say though that beard will make a lot of our selfie Brethren quite envious I would say look at the style of the beard though he's rocking it you gotta say he's rocking it and the center parting as well that's uh right you gotta so yeah right so uh

right so he was from England he he went to Cambridge and I believe he lectured as well in Cambridge in London other parts of England he was a leading mathematician a philosopher he con he contributed to um algebra with geometrics in fact uh geometric algebra is introduced by him and so he and he lived a very one could say a short span um he he passes away at the age of 33.

so yeah so you've got so William Clifford he writes this book saying look I you know it's called the ethics of belief and he really this is a time where there's a lot of discussion going on about belief because you've got remember you've got Darwin the Origin of Species you've got this whole the industrial revolution technology is coming forth um you know the Reformation has already happened people have the America is you know is being created you've got a lot

of stuff going on this whole new thing about Liberty and so on and um so I mean here are three ways of looking at Faith at the Time in the West you've got uh Blaise Pascal from before that is Pascal from the 1600s but Pascal's wager who'd argued every you're all popular with it it's I mean you're all familiar with it who said that it's as if he said look if you're a betting person it's better to bet on God existing because even if you get it

wrong you're still safe whereas if you bet that God does not exist and you get it wrong then you're kind of doomed so this is known as Pascal's wager that was one way of looking at Faith as though it's a kind of gamble well let's just gamble on the safe side that's one way but to be honest people didn't like that now um you can see William James who who wasn't he did believe in God but he he criticizes and condemns Pascal's approach because he says that you know if that's how you're going to see God

then really you're too far gone because if your faith is this faith of saying oh well you know I'm not sure I really believe in it but what the hell I'll just bet to be on the safe side he says well that's not really true Faith but you've got this discussion because you've got then people from England Rising like Clifford saying look actually you know that it's absurd to believe it's unacceptable to believe on insufficient evidence and because there is insufficient evidence about God it is therefore impermissible to believe now here

um William James defends belief in God and he refutes because he highlights that Clifford has actually got this wrong that you see belief is something that is much more complex than how people are making it out and in some ways this is almost a prototype discussion to what you're going to get with the likes of now Jordan Peterson this is in its very Proto version of it where William James is highlighting that look actually belief is much more complex than that you can't just say to people or suspend belief because it's not that easy and

will come to something known as doxatic um sorry docsastic involuntarism and we'll come to that it's about how much control do we have over our beliefs but yeah so just bring this up right now so this was William Clifford and his famous statement it is wrong always everywhere and for anyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence so you can see how Fermi was and this became known as the cliffordian standard

so summing him up it is wrong so this is his thing this this is his kind of golden principle of Clifford and just look at him donning that beard huh two fistfuls ah yeah Clifford doing it doing it so um so he says it is wrong in all cases to believe on insufficient evidence and where it is presumption to doubt and to investigate there is worse than presumption to believe so what is he saying here so Clifford is arguing that look

if you had pres like imagine you could right there's a chance for something could be a certain way he says it is worse you for you to just believe this you need to suspend judgment okay you must suspend judgment and you can't accept it as a belief it's just a presumption and it must say that and it is unacceptable and he uses words like impermissible and uses these kind of words so this was and his book

um ethics of belief it's not so long you can have a read of it online now William James Rises to refute him and he writes look believe truth shun error these we see are two materially different laws okay so to believe the truth and to shun what is wrong it says and by choosing between them we may end by coloring differently our whole intellectual life we may regard the chase for truth as Paramount so what he's saying is look

people they set out on a Pursuit for truth and the avoidance of error are secondary or we may on the other hand treat the avoidance of error as more imperative and let truth take its chance so you see what William James was saying is that people don't work this way how Clifford is saying people don't work as in they don't just suspend judgments not on things that matter he says that they seek out truths and they like one of these is primary and the other is secondary so either

they they are going with something and yeah there may be errors in it but that's secondary to them so they're not going to look heavily or they may be more forgiving of errors or they're looking to criticize something so that's primary and it may have some valid points but they are more overlooking of those so he has this statement where he says that belief has within itself belief has the validation of itself within it that it carries at times within it the mechanism to validate itself and and I think the reason I'm bringing this

to our attention is because this is still very relevant to the debates going on today so he says look Clifford exhorts us to the latter course believe nothing he tells us keep your mind in suspense forever rather than by closing it on insufficient evidence incur the awful risk of believing lies because he says that look he's saying that what if it's not true therefore it's better to not believe it he says to preach skepticism to us as a duty until sufficient evidence for religion be found is tantama that see what Clifford is calling for is equal to

telling us that when in the presence of religious hypothesis that to yield to our fear of it being error is wiser and better than to yield to our hope that it may be true you see what William James is saying here is that his refuted his rebuking Clifford by saying that look Clifford's telling us that let's say there's a chance like does God exist like we don't know with certainty so there's a chance that he exists there's a chance he doesn't exist let's say now he's saying well Clifford is arguing

that until we know with certainty we must suspend and reject all beliefs so William James is saying look there's okay let's say there is a chance we're wrong there is a chance that you could be wrong but there is a hope that you are right why should we suspend things why not go with the Hope because this is how human beings operate he's pointing out here the human psychology he's also pointing out that this belief and hope going with it even if you don't have the full evidences what William James argues is it works

out always more successful and he gives examples of people who believe they are better candidates for certain jobs they often get the jobs people who believe they are deserving of certain opportunities often get the opportunities even though statistically they are less they that they're more optimistic than the statistics read for them so the evidence according to Clifford's Viewpoint they should never feel optimistic because they don't have the evidence to show it because it's just a a hope but they could be wrong and therefore they

should suspend judgment but that's not how human beings behave we without certain evidence we still with the hope of some evidence we still take that leap of faith as human beings we do it in our daily lives we do it in our institutions we do it in our constructs we do it in our faith so this is what William James is uh

is arguing so yeah and this is a good a good point as uh Mark Allah it's like the argument of leaving a question blank on test instead of answering them correctly you'd rather give it a go exactly and and he says you on the other hand may think that the risk of being in error is a very small matter when compared with the blessing of real knowledge I my I myself find it impossible to go with Clifford you see because he's saying you here is the person that look there's a chance you may be wrong but in your

heart the blessing of faith it outweighs that like it's it's fine for you to it it weighs heavily for you to live your life with faith it gives you meaning it gives you the the fight and it and that preponderates sure nobody you know we don't we don't scientifically or palpably know God we don't we can't touch God or feel God in that sense one can argue through Consciousness and that's a different argument which obviously those arguments hadn't developed really in William James's time

but his point here is saying that this Cliff cliffordian principle uh it's absurd because human beings don't behave that way and you know something that Clifford gives in his um ethics of belief he gives this example of the ship owner and he says let imagine the ship owner never had imagine he thought that's my ship could be a bit damaged he thinks it could be but then

he has some doubt that it's the ship isn't fully seaworthy he doesn't have certainty that it is and he has some doubt but he then lets the ship crew go out to sea and they all drown so Clifford argues that he is categorically at fault that how did he let these people do this because he did not have certainty so he should have suspended judgment and not acted on and this is interesting because here Faith ties into action you know which is a discussion in Islam as well about Iman

it is you know uh Europe or yes it kind of purifies or manifests with action so here's the thing so Clifford is saying the same way you would say the ship owner was wrong you would say to somebody if you did not have full faith then how can you go around saying God does exist this is obviously you know uh Clifford's Clifford's point on the whole um and you can see his kind of uh his thing about look he's very anti-faith

um that you can't and and the reason I'm saying this is because this is the same kind of argument that is used by atheists today that it is wrong to believe on insufficient evidence okay so this is what people will say that um and what's actually interesting okay now this is weird and atheists today do this as well they um they lean in on our moral duty you see now this is the weird thing so this is actually from Clifford as well

he says that look it is a moral duty to follow this epistemology that you cannot believe something based on insufficient evidence so you you'll get that today with atheists as well they'll say that look well you know no it's it's almost an imperative a kind of moral imperative to be true to yourself and believe something only that can be proven but first of all the question is that in itself is a belief and how do you justify that belief point one point two where on Earth does

the this morality what is it Anchored In just the evolution I mean what is it Anchored In And if God does not exist and everything thereby is you know it's nihilistic and meaningless in the end even if it has some meaning now but ultimately means nothing then what does it matter how can anything truly be wrong because ultimately there is no right and wrong it's just meaningless incoherent um coming together of things it doesn't

mean anything so so this is always uh an interesting point that not only does Clifford bring this up but even today a lot of atheists will appeal to this kind of higher Marvel and you see this was the thing that what William James uh is you know he's criticizing him now this thing doxastic involuntarism this is an important point you see what William James says he says that believes he calls them alive beliefs life as in life and dead that

uses these opposites and he he and he does use other uh uh he says as well that they have momentum and they are forced he uses these things as well and what he's talking about he says that look I accept that people do what you're saying but not on things where it matters he says like yeah it's true like let's say somebody like let's say somebody said to you okay which holds more nutritional value Pepsi

Coke or Coca-Cola Coke now you don't know here you are prepared to suspend judgment because it doesn't mean anything to you in your world you see this is just simply saying well okay so William James is accepting this that it's true that in certain things people will they are prepared to they are prepared to withhold judgment but not on things to but not on things with a matters or live hypothesis first of all he says a belief for it to be a live

belief it has to exist in a social structure for your surroundings so for example in America or or now let's say as as Muslims because Muslims believe in Jinn they are more likely to believe in things like gin possession so if something happened to someone and you said to them oh this this is a gin possessing it's not mental health it's gin possession why do they accept it because they have this live hypothesis that these things happen and narrative so another word is like this social narrative psychosocial

narrative William James calls it a live hypothesis but whereas In some cultures that's a dead hypothesis so let's say generally in England people don't believe in demonic possessions I mean not regular people regular English people don't believe in that so to them this would be a dead hypothesis so they would easily rule this out because the hypothesis isn't alive in that psychosocial construct but what's interesting is for example depression is a life hypothesis in as a

psychosocial reality within let's say England whereas in certain cultures it may be a dead hypothesis so this is interesting that what William James is saying is that when a belief is alive or dead hypothesis it makes a difference to how willing you are to accept or reject it because you could easily like as Muslims you could easily reject let's say um polytheism where you could reject Hindu you know these kind of reincarnations and you could reject these because it's not in your world it's not a live hypothesis and and then

he also explains that it's not you see by by he explains things like by it having momentum um and by being forced as in it's it's imperative like it means something like you have to like if a person was ill and they needed a medication and somebody said do this or somebody said do that here you would have to act you couldn't just suspend judgment say well you know this doctor said this this doctor said about hmm I don't really know so I'm gonna do nothing William James saying it doesn't work like that in the real world people will not just suspend judgment they will follow one or the other

because it matters it's a forced kind of momentous live uh belief for them so yeah this is interest so this is actually quite you know very fascinating another thing that is also brought in here is this psychosocial construct you see so uh you can that what this this is an interesting point right beliefs are tied into social beliefs so what William James does argue is sometimes certain beliefs may be wrong but

they tie into a greater he doesn't use the word a greater narrative but they tie into a greater narrative which may be right for them so a good example of this by the way is uh like the discussion I got into with the Sheikh abdulrahman gory when we had a discussion on people who visit shrines and even though that belief may be inaccurate but it ties into a greater set of uh psychosocial structures which may be which are different not to do with that but are valid so this is what William James argues as

well that sometimes people might have a wrong belief but that belief enables a greater belief and it works so a good example of this is for example um let's say you believe you're lucky a person just believes they are lucky now technically that belief is inaccurate because there's no way that you are just lucky you know statistically or there's totally insufficient I mean you just you know anthropologically speaking there's

no such thing as luck I mean sure there's circumstances and and where a person is born but luck by the sense of a kind of divinely ordained luck now there's nothing to prove that but if a person believed it let's say he's totally wrong like let's say you asked a person why do you believe you're lucky so they said well I believe I'm lucky because I was born on this particular date and when you add these numbers together let's say I was born on this date of this month of this year and you add this together and this now equals 786 and 786 is also the number for Bismillah Rahman Rahim so let's say now a person said that well let's say you

said something totally wacko like made zero sense like he said oh I believe I'm lucky because um you know uh I was born on this day and on this date um let's say it says something totally random like oh there was a uh you know sudden weather change in and something totally bizarre makes zero sense of what he's saying but he just believes it or she believes it that I'm lucky now because they have this belief

statistically they are more likely to face better luck in the world which is ironic because it then it's a confirmation bias it just further kind of solidifies their belief which further increases their success so even though that belief in itself may be erroneous and wrong but it ties into a greater structure of beliefs where they are actually correct in getting so so for example they believe that I you know I I need to get success in life I need to get this and

they get all these things so yeah so it's like the um yeah like the kind of Pygmalion effect or the self-fulfilling prophecy um but my point of saying that and it ties into today what we're saying if you believe it you can achieve it because this is the argument you see so the point is that sometimes people can be wrong in certain beliefs but because but that wrong ties into a greater thing which works as correct so this is what William James is arguing

that you can't just take a simple you can't extract one set of Cycles one set of beliefs and just dissect them because these beliefs are tied into a dynamic psychosocial reality so he gives this example as well this is actually a very powerful example that William James gives he says that beliefs tie into a community as well so I believe something because I such and such believes it and they believe it and they believe it and we all believe it like let's say as Muslims we believe as an ummah

so this also has an effect you see because he gives the example that why is it that a whole because when you have a concordance this kind of this concordant Behavior this uh in agreement kind of compliant beliefs coordinated beliefs amongst a group it takes a life of its own so he gives the example of how can you get a small number of people Bandits who can rob an entire train of individual of so many people who

outnumber them who individually could beat these people but why do they manage to successfully rob it because the individual people don't have a shared belief that they will cooperate with one another whereas the thieves robbing the train have this coordinated belief that they will assist one another in doing this whereas the the passengers on the train don't know if the other people will assist them or not so this absence of Psychosocial belief

renders them in unable to act in that situation so it's interesting that you know this discussion has so many layers to it but it's fascinating um I want to bring it to your attention that you can see that look that this is the kind of summary um right that that you had these people from um the scientific community of the past that ah that poem you had these people of the scientific community of the past that

had this debate on belief and what uh Clifford was arguing that look it is always unacceptable to believe on insufficient evidence and one must suspend judgment William James will refutes him by saying this this talks doxastic involuntarism okay so the the whole thing about that is that what is doxastic uh involuntarism it's that and this is true with Dogma the term is toxic is to do with where you get dogmas

in Orthodoxy and orthodoxical and doxastic so that's where it's coming from so docsastic involuntarism so what he's saying is people don't have that much control over their beliefs like they do but over a gradual long process it's not as easy as a person can't just switch off their beliefs if they have to it has to be a journey and it can't just be like you can't just say to someone oh you believe in that oh there isn't concrete evidence Stop Believing in it and they'll stop believing it they wouldn't that it just

doesn't work that he's trying to explain to people that look this is incredibly naive and he describes him as an um as an unfant terrible uh you know one of these uh troublemakers I'm from toribler from an uh which is from French a terrible child but but it used in English to to mean this kind of uh kind of Troublemaker who's doing this thing because human beliefs don't work that way you can't just tell people to switch beliefs off they just don't it doesn't work they don't have that much voluntary control over them sure they can influence

people's beliefs can be influenced but it's a process it's not this simple as you say to someone oh do you have a belief for that okay no stop believing in it they can't just stop believing in it like that so yeah so that's um so yeah groupthink is an interesting point so I know this was you know maybe this is slightly off but the reason I wanted to cover it is because it is important look these people are great figures in our Societies in Western Societies in the branches and Departments of psychology these are

Revere dignified folk in literature till today William James is you know he's a huge person as a dignified and it's important to acquaint ourselves with these people who've argued for not only things like the mystical experience but for belief in God and the arguments they used and they are still very relevant sure you know we've adapted new terminologies and we've kind of tweaked things along the way and we've added more layers to the arguments but in its Essence it's good to know this kind of

stuff so I hope it's been of some um value to you guys I hope I've not just bought you uh but yeah I really wanted to share it you know sometimes I I I'm like I need to share this with these guys man I hope uh you know it's uh oh shukran um I'm glad you covered this topic Mufti shukran I this was an important topic yeah I appreciate that um and Scorpio also I think The Compound Effect that mentioned this but if you believe something you'll be more aware of it and look out for it and take more

opportunities which could help in the long run absolutely and this is why it's so important in Islam to always we are reminded time and time again to have always think well that God is treating you so kindly that he's so gracious to you that he's always giving he's always this is time and time you are reminded in Islam as always have a good uh you know mindset towards God of how how he treats you and in hadithi

that I am with I treat my servant I treat my person as my person expects me to treat them so yeah so shukran guys that was really [Music] um wow quite a bit there we've really gone on ah you know what it is quite late I can't share the link if anybody I suppose I could have a quick chat um if anybody is and then we could wrap this up it's been quite a night um

a mine trap with a skeptic would be interesting sure sure I mean yeah put me in touch with a good skeptic um right okay I've shared that let's see uh like um ah right people ah well azamat osana much love uh Lord bless you um

sight of stop exposing him of the have I missed a Super Chat let me check the super chats in case I've missed any um all right okay so call them much love for the Super Chat Allah bless you Mufti who is your favorite philosopher eastern and western um you know I don't know that's interesting I don't know it's a tricky one really hmm

you know in many ways we are all inspired ultimately I guess the whole method by Socrates you know and that I guess is a uh yeah but one could apply the whole you know the James Ian and cliffordian debate scenario to Socrates but but yeah there is always that um because he just sets this whole thing into motion doesn't it

yeah I I mean I'm fascinated by philosophers um if I if I read the discussions I'm kind of wowed by it I'm not um from the Muslim philosophies I do love ibna rusht um um maybe there's a bias there because he's Maliki oh he was epic if norrist was epic um but yeah you know we've got to really um investigate more and more Muslim philosophy as well and see how

it's kind of con contributed to the discourse but yeah I'm I I value all kinds of philosophies man you know the the unconscious mind ultimately I guess would you place Freud I I would Place him in a way amongst philosophers but um young definitely overplace him amongst philosophers as well but that whole discovery of the unconscious thing is so fascinating to me so yeah Terence McKenna I just love Terence McKenna's stuff his

stuff is so soothing he he has that same Hamza Yusuf Voice or Hamza Yusuf has his voice Terence McKenna you got to just listen to some of his stuff on YouTube it's like wow this guy I mean I don't know what would people categorize him as a philosopher I would but yeah it's yeah so I hope that's of some help ibe natashvin much love for the Super Chat Allah bless you what does Allah mean when he says this book has no doubt often used to justify the approach to the Quran

yeah so look Allah says and this is not you know where Allah says now here so first of all al-kitab is speaking about scripture now Allah does not say in the sense that is there will people have Shaq or doubt it depends on what we're speaking about the word that is used is a rape okay like a kind of hesitation it comes

from that kind of your tab something that your tab there's this element of reticence and hesitancy and this kind of doubt in that sense there you see when you're hesitant you're doubtful about something and in that sense scripture isn't you know it is it doesn't come forward with from Reddit you know this kind of like reticence or this kind of hesitancy it comes forward with a certainty that you move forward it gives you guidance

you know it is guidance for those who are mindful and it's not so it's not you know indecisive it's decisive so this is speaking about it from that perspective that yeah so and show other people I I suppose you could you know one of the things about the verse of the Quran is you could always look at it afresh with fresh eyes and and have you know more and more meanings Dawn on you but yeah that's you know look at this

can mean scripture it can mean um Commandments it can mean Revelation it can because you have to remember at that time the Quran was not a book when it was being revealed the book the kind of message the Revelation the scripture you know this the Commandment the the ordainment this that there is no there is no doubt but doubt here is but I see this rape as more about that kind of doubt from a kind of reticence

and hesitancy not it's not shuk the Arabic word shuk isn't used it's not talking about obviously the people of Faith don't like they don't have doubt in but it's not in my understanding he's not talking about that anyway that's not even the discussion it's talking about what this brings you is something resolute it doesn't bring you something wishy-washy it brings you a message that is strong and it is for people who have strength in their faith so that's the the message

that that's what I understand from the from that verse okay guys what's this uh uh somebody do you know who I am somebody said are you the one we've been waiting for [Laughter] Allahu Akbar on that positive note I guess [Laughter] right let's wrap this up people and

let's yeah let's wrap this up and yeah so uh shukran it's been quite a night quite an evening may Allah bless you all shukran for your kind words and in the words of soda speaking of words as always he says that's it so that so that was a contemporary of me that's it so the Mirza review he says wrap it up now man he says you know

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