Hadith Studies: Introduction

in handle a Rockefeller salatu salam o allah rasool allah mustafa well I read a lead in October Oman be Hotel method or be a third Almudena tougher or bad assalamu alaikum warahmatullah wabarakatuh right we're going to begin a solo hadith take a look in fact before I even get into anything let's just get a quick understanding what I want is I've got a in mind a plan B is nila to to do some hadith studies so with the aim being that we're

actually studying hadith but to prepare us for that so a text giving us the guidelines a brief I mean I'm gonna say test where it's not really a test something which will be a brief poem which you can take a look at but at the same time just make sure we've all learnt and then look at some actual mattoon some texts of hadith but before we begin monster all hadith also hadith what do we already know about this mother matter not if what do we know but well I know my sister and show me a folder with all his notes from kin and something okay what does it deal

with what does it deal with okay the saying yet that's more hadith the actual the content of a deed this is the categorization of hadith this is the analysis of hadith nor in its content in its structure okay so and it's got two names it can be called must Allah will hadith like the the term if you like the terminologies of hadith and nomenclature

as they call it or it could be a Sulha hadith the foundations or the principles of Hadi right this is a contemporary text we're going to take a look at the reason I like it is the way he's laid it out it's very very well explained especially for those who understand arabic and he does have he has a structure after this he also introduces you in the second book to the original hadith although we might not I mean we could maybe explore that as a later option some other point but that Anna NAB that let us begin

so right now he begins by reminding people that why like why or surah Hadees and he's gonna first of all go into a his brief historic account of why it's important so it begins with the eye of the Quran yeah you're latina Amano in jail a confessor combinable mfortable you know that oh you who believe if a person who is not of sound character comes to you with some news then ascertain or verify what the person has

brought don't just jump to conclusions and be analytic be like be objective somebody saying something don't just go by what he said first of all see that is it authentic authenticated then he mentions the hadith and this is a very interesting Haditha not that Allah whom I'm sorry I'm in a Sheehan for believer who Kumasi Mira that may Allah enlightened a person who hears the messenger Lhasa Allison said who hears from us a hadith a statement and then for beloved okema Samia who then he conveys that to somebody else as he

heard it from us then the prophecy alum says for Obama believe in how I mean sir me many are people who something has been conveyed to will end up understand understanding it better than the one who is actually conveying so that is the if you like from the blessings or the unique unique blessings upon this Ummah by Allah subhana Allah it's almost hidden in things like the science of hadith and stuff like this that sometimes a hadith might be conveyed to a person who comes after but he understands it may be better than the one who's actually

telling him now and in another rewire for a Bahama 1311 who are common that many a person will carry fake to somebody who will be a far more knowledgeable than them so you might end up taking knowledge to somebody and that person ends up being of a greater level at a later stage maybe than you than the person himself what a Bahama Li feeling Lisa beefed up a and not everybody who carries knowledge is knowledgeable that is a very interesting and amazing hadith from Tirmidhi so so look keeping that in

mind this looking into assign it what is is not mean not as it's not me chain a chain so before obviously in the time of the Prophet Allah Salaam and shortly after there wasn't this change people weren't concerned initially about chains don't mean by that the change chains chains of Hadees eeeh so even a serene says all alumni Hakuna yes Aluna Anil is not they never used to ask about its nut they wouldn't care about it really until Philomela cartel fitna then when

issues occurred there was heresy there was deviation there were people had ulterior motives to transmit something or lose some moolah najara Jellicle then people began to say tell me who your people are meaning who do you get this stuff from before the fitna happened people wouldn't ask so you said something everybody would go to you said Karl arose a lot of Messenger of Allah solanum said everybody's there they Ani once the fitna occurred it wasn't like that anymore it was some Molinari telecom who do you get that from so it

became very objective and analytic right now in this science of most ilaha dthe what are some popular texts now this may not be of you know too much used to you now but maybe at a later stage it will be but it's nevertheless just to briefly go over there's a book called Alma hadith al fossil by Nara we all were I and that was written by Abu Muhammad what's his what's his name

ROM Hormuz II Rama Haram Haram Hormuz II Abu Muhammad Aram Hormuz II is this isn't this is this is is this title it's not title but his association is with ROM Hormuz which is a place just in case you thinking the name ROM it's not the name ROM is ROM Hormuz II right so around Abu Muhammad as his name was he was the first person to author any text on a Saluja DS that was an independent text concentrating on us already I know tirmidhi and has some books in it

and yes but this was a complete as in a text focusing on the science of hadith before him nobody really had done that as an isolated work so Abu Muhammad our Aram Hormuz II was the first to do that now he passes away in the year 360 okay and that that's his book there's another book ma refer to illumine hadith which is by abdul al haq him Annie suppori okay somebody who passes away in 405 hey Jerry now now I'll hack him he also attempts to kind

of bring about this individual isolated work as you can see only a few decades after arm what Amasya may work for whatever three four decades after but the thing is that it still isn't it's still in its early stages this is all hadees it's not it's like prototype versions early versions then you have almost average a lama refer to illumine hadith by a benign I lost my honey somebody who passes away in 430 he tries to add and work upon what hack him hunted so he tries to add to his work he takes a look at his book

Hakeem's book my artifact alumina hadith and says look he missed this he missed that let me try and add to it let me try and do this let me try and do that now then along comes the book al-kifah fel Mary wire by Abu Bakr hamad al khateeb Albert daddy somebody who passes away in the year 463 injury tell me something about about a worker a locket about daddy happy the hadith dawn of hadith known as half a doll mushrik half eighth of the entire eastern muslim world

okay so you just just described that from there no right now who at the time he was the half eighth of the entire Eastern Muslim world a dawn al-khatib a birth daddy a very famous chef is Carla somebody who they say I mean there's some controversy

surrounding him as well especially from the Hanna fear they say that he considered becoming a Hanafy once this is a la alum but this was some of the ulema have written that they said he considered becoming a Hanafy and he I think he was either he was on his way to to Umrah or something but anyway he he considered he thought that you know he's yeah dad enough of the Schaffer he might've apparently had some issues and he thought about becoming Hanafy but he had a dream in which he saw the Prophet Elias alone and the process of awesome said to him that why are you kind of

abandoning my Sunnah and like going to something else and so he can he might is a very harsh type of statement so he becomes really like a heart it continues to it remains a chef a he but becomes very hardcore and and he's known to have been somebody who refutes the Hannah fear passionately at times and this is why they say that there's a conflict of interest and and all sorts but but anyway he was renowned in his field of hadith untouchable in his day and age it was only part by if you like I mean the

only parallel to him was about amar use of a Bernard L bar the dawn the heavy weight of the entire Western Muslim world right obviously the he was known as Hospital Madrid and he was half of the mushrik they I mean that with that they had kind of just sealed it really they were the two heavyweights absolutely everybody and quite strangely they both passed away in the same year for 6300 so in that year the Muslim world lost two of its major for faith of Hadi

right but anyway a lot people but daddy writes his book called Alta fire that which suffices he alumina hadith now he write and this book they say about it your October room in a gently Mossad that had a line this was the first book that had now almost evolved like dynamically before this called the ROM Hormuz he had written a book I mean followed by you and oz behind he did you know you you had it was a niche suppori and all these books but they weren't they were still good they were the first

attempts that the isolated works you've got you know books of just now this science of it all hadith but it wasn't developed the way it should be it was still in a very formative stage along comes Alcott evil birth daddy his book Alka fire really kind of slices through these science gets to the the kind of nucleus of it he starts coming up with Messiah ale he starts organizing them sequencing them in his book Alka fire is

the first kind of defined version the you see of this as'll hadith has now emerged it's come out of that she'll it's out of its developmental stages I mean it will still continue to develop but it's now taken full form okay it's not you know it's a top it's not a low-budget movie production anymore something major that they've they've hit it this is it so well after that you have a local birth daddy also authors aljahmeir Leah clock era we were a derby Samia

this book is more to do with is to do with element hadith against the science of hadith but also the adapt the etiquettes of people who carry hadith and you know what who are they and what are the different categories and how should they be on that topic of the etiquettes of who those who carry hadith comes the the Western dawn once again in hadith I'll call the ER he writes who's more or less just after and he writes the book a lil map yellamma aliphatic azul area what a

pity sama that how should hadith be kind of conveyed and what are the different categories of giving ijazah of writing hadith what are the ways the etiquettes things like this and and then you continue to get after them there's a book that is mentioned here known as male yes Alma had this JLo that's just a simple text like that which Mahad is need then there's a book called that is mentioned here all normal hadith this illumine hadith is why I am hrivnas Allah this is an interesting point

you see eveness Allah he passes away in the year 643 very so there's been almost you know almost like two centuries almost since sulla hadith had already emerged in a solid manner now when it reaches Ignis Allah he really crystallizes rasool hadith he comes out with several he takes it to its peak and he has his other texts as well where his the you know his

no this is the macadam and the luminal hadith is the mo Kadima but his taksim illumina hadith that he has also where he kind of breaks them down and he mentions them into you've got like he'll go into 67 different points and he mentions very unique point not only unique points he starts to get very ultra structured he brings this uber structuralism to us all happy before him people weren't on like they did they did they had it sorted I mean a solo hadith was out but he starts to introduce things like he has very famous

statements like can a hadith now like a category discussing can i hadith now we still certified Asahi if none of the earlier people had ever certified si and then he apparently will explain how he feels that can't happen and then many later Mahad the theme will challenge him and stuff but anyway even a Salah is a very important character a very important personality in us all hadith with him o solo hadith becomes crystallized to some perhaps to artificially crystallized that is a critique or a criticism that some have raised later on I mean whether it's you

know that's a matter of discussion whether you value that criticism or not some people feel maybe even when he kind of almost artificial eyes the whole thing by you know manufacturing it to that extent but anyway you've got the famous story by Noah we which is really took that agree by Noah is a summary of eveness alas book ok illumine hadith then you've got the rebar are we okay which is sooo this book and that is really a commentary for know we stock read and then other books as well I mean

you've got things like another motor RVL mill SR which has been turned by Xena Dino I rocky a very famous a very famous text which is known as the thousand poems of Al Araki al fear to a rocky I'll just mention very quickly some other names like fatale movies by Sir how we knock battle figure this is a very interesting book I think you guys should remember this name no but I'll figure this is by even aha jealous Palani and then much after you get small texts like Albania which is very popular small poem probably with about thirty or

thirty four lines two or something like this explaining these type of things ok so guys that was just a very brief intro into some of the texts in this field what let's go through some provisional definitions Elmen masala the science of masala we know what it is it's L Mumbai 'soul work override your other phobia are hollow senate it's what its masala is the science which concerns the chains of hadith by which we can know its validity and its strength okay whether we should accept it or reject it

this is something by the way you know this list that we're going through this checklist is something a lot of the scholars do before they begin any type of science any type of works what they say is let's go through these things to verify what is the purpose of what we're doing so first of all what is it a definition secondly what does it cover it's its subject if you like what is the not subject but what is it yeah its coverage what what does it do so it covers the chain and the text of the hadith in terms of accepting it or rejecting it that's the purpose of it so

if somebody says what's the purpose of studying this well you will know about the chain of hadith and the text and why do you want to know that so whether you should accept or reject a hadith okay Therma - what is the and they they check this what is the fruition what is what are the fruits of knowing that well you will have the skill to distinguish between these Sciences I mean between these hadees so somebody presents you at least you have the skill to kind of say well okay that isn't strong enough to be an evidence that is you have that skill

hadith we already know what for in fact somebody mentioned it earlier on what what is a hadith the definition of a hadith oh yeah okay it is a : warfare alone o or tacit approval it can be as well with something happens in front of the Prophet Elisha salam and he doesn't say anything to rebuke it or so it's a tacit approval of silent as far as hadith is concerned they would also include sefa a characteristic of the profit because that is also described as a hadith when they say the processing look like this he had long

hair he had this that still Falls that it still classified as a hadith a description of the Prophet okay there's some definitions here things like hubber which just means like a news informing somebody for some about something right this some definitions about is there difference between a harbor and I hadith and generally people tend to treat them in the same way the word Hubbert sometimes they say there's a harbor from the proselyte Salam there's some discussions but we can go past that there's also the term ether you've probably heard the word author

it's a narration as well some people say there's a difference if so what is that difference you know difference you know I thought cover those who do make a difference right okay you're right some people make a difference say that author is not a hadith but it's to do with a sahabi or Atterbury or is the cover or the hadith is to do with the process of Arsenal but many people don't make that distinction but you're right those who do do it do so like that it's not we've already said these nod is a chain Senate

is also really the chain okay that is the chain of hadith the mutton who knows what I'm attorneys mutton the actual text the actual so you've got the chain leading up to the Hadi and then the actual hadith itself is known as the mutton the wording of it okay must net that I mean the reason why we're just explaining some of these words is that because they may be referred to at a later stage so you know what they mean that this is something the person that

something is referred back to so I say this is going back to this that such and such for example is you know he said this what he did it but the person that it's something is being referred back to right okay now that if you were looking at it from a very linguistic perspective in hadith as well mustnít and we're going to go into we're not going to cover other books but most net can also be a book of hadith any particular type

yet like the Muslims very famous the most nerd that we mom Ahmed but what is a Muslim it's organized according to narrators quite usually according to the Sahaba but it can be organized according to the teachers of that scholar whose book it is so let's say ma'am Bihari he has so many teachers we could organize the sahi of Imam Bihari in accordance with his teachers in an alphabetical manner so let's start with a leaf and bar and so on like this this would be known as a Muslim okay so it's not organized in according to in accordance with fit okay any hadith which is

complete in its chain it's also called a must not sometimes okay right the most need is somebody who narrates the hadith a hadith we know Roma hadith is yeah it says somebody who is concerned with the science of hadith in understanding and rating it transmitting it and very clued up he's not just a hadith isn't just anybody who's concerned with it because we could be concerned with hadith for today that doesn't make us Mahad Athene it mentions where Talia I like a theorem in every wire to a Holly or what yeah somebody who knows a lot about the

transmitters of the chains of hadith and stuff like this a happy what is a Hafidh of hadith yeah some people have said somebody who's memorized at least a hundred thousand honey other people have said somebody who in each they say in each section or category of hadith that he's looking at he knows more than what he doesn't know obvious a question and you how do you

know if you think well look I know three and I don't know the other two but this is obviously going by an understanding that there is only so many hadith and this person now so many already in but that's a definition that some people give that he knows in that category he he knows in most categories of hadith more than he doesn't know as opposed to memorizing or just the text oh yes of

course of course that's you know what that in itself is an okay question but it actually gives rise to a more important question I would have said that is a very important question awesome question but you know I don't want to know just like the thing is not that that's okay that's good but yes my head'll Athene only become more had the theme by memorizing as i need as well however you know the number of a hadith a hadith according to a mahadji's and a

hadith according to a fatty or no sulie don't have to mean the same thing I mean there's a huge overlap so according to let's say a Fafi somebody was concerned with filmmaking law he will see one hadith the content of he is the main thing he's only interested in the content and obviously the chain that it's correct and therefore he can use it let's say there's a hadith which is exactly the same side entacle but in this one it's the first one's transmitted by three people in the chain and this one's got four people in the chain according to the Mahad day this is

an entirely different hadith the more hadith sees this as he looks to him the chain is almost everything he sees this as entirely different or even if the wording was slightly different to him it's still a different hadith to the might be all know this the same hadith but it's just got another word used in front of that instead of that word that's all but to them how didn't know if the name is different if there's an extra names there's an extra anything there's an extra ID that's it really now this is why they have hundreds of

thousands of hadith otherwise there ain't hundreds and hundreds of thousands of hadith of the Prophet Elias enduring the hadith or not so many like in in terms like that whether you know people have disagreed how many thousands they are but there's not hundreds and hundreds of there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of hadith according to the Mahad death like because oh this chain is certainly different it's another hadith this word is subtly different it's another hadith like that they are but imagine you were kind of summing everything up to the same thing so you're saying according to the 40 for example but that's the same

hadith you could have 50 hadith but just because and let's say each one of us narrated the same hadith today so this let's say whatever there's 12 of us 15 of us 20 of whoever is sitting let's just say five of us whoever transmits a hadith to every learner hadith and we transmit a hadith according to my hadith that is that many extra hadith according to the hey that's just one because the main thing is just one so there is a difference so the hadith to him it's a separate unit and he counts them like that so knowing the chain is essential

the chain makes everything for the Mahadevan that was the question but but you wanted to really ask but right okay hack him is somebody who if he thought the Hafiz wasn't done this is the one that says who says father kebab camping

he's the one who's ahead of him hack him he's the one who they say has encompassed the entire in the whole category of hadith except what is a little you know maybe just a little bit as kind of missed him in that a lazy day here and there but but otherwise he's he's he's dirty he's not even doing it he's done it it's like that that's a hack him anywhere now moving on right when we look at a hadith this we're gonna work down in breaking up the

categories okay so we're going to begin with looking at hadith primarily you either have what is a motor water or hoverla hat now what this means is first of all before we even get into this before we even get into hadith and stuff like this we are concerned with the chain if the chain is something which is so abundantly present and everywhere transmitted by so many people multiple transmissions that is something that everybody knows let's just say that is

called motor water that is something that is conclusive like things are today the way that you we know many things in the world today it's just through motor water understandings really but whether you know a particular country exists whether you know certain things it's really just because not that you've actually been there yourself it's just because you've heard and you've heard from so many people that it's impossible that all these people got together just to trick you so that is motor water okay now there is when it comes to hadith there is a difference of opinion what makes something motor water as in how

many people how many change in the in each layer of transmission how many people do they have to be that are spreading this heavy for it to be motor water and they disagree amongst themselves some people say that they has to be you know at least ten people in each chain some people say even if it's five some people have to say some people have said there isn't a specific number but it has to have spread so much in its true understanding and how I've understood this to be okay right is that motor

water would be that let's say for example let's say I've said something now and you guys have all gone away and and pass that on to somebody else they would be individual people that you would pass it on to it wouldn't have to be like for example three of you go I'm pass it on to the same three people who then pass it on to the same three people it would be each person going doing his own thing so let's say Marcia goes and passes it on in was it Hebrew let's say

he interprets it T and so he let's say this this is Missouri by the way was not in the camera yeah good oh yes right so the thing is now let's say let's say Marcia girls teaches this hadith to three people well girls teaches it to a different three your teaching you to those people each one of you has gone and taught it to another three four five six people those people are going off individually and teaching it to other people so you've toyed to three each one

of those three in his own right goes off and he starts teaching it to another three he starts teaching it to another two he starts teaching it to another five this is how motor water in its true understanding would work it would be so now that would be impossible for all those people to have come up with the same thing expert absolutely exponential that's nothing but even greater as in like so huge with huge se10 change is in the first three generations after that they all become

after that they don't necessarily become all motor water where it's passed from the process of autism onwards so let's say the Companions up until know then it would just carry on so it can't just stop at some point but what you're saying was what these people might say is that look it doesn't happen just straight away after the you know three generations but let's say Imam Bihari has documented I had these in his book now at that stage everybody now has access to this book so now there's gonna be hundreds thousands of people have taken it from that book what about

before that point but even then I mean sy Bihari doesn't come till you know the second I'm until the two hundred but the way I've explained motor water the other way of looking at it is that three bits let's say five people or let's say ten people to make it happen make the text you know just be in line with what the takes is saying ten people pass it on to the same ten pass it on to the same ten but I find that very weird and I don't think that is really so like let's say one person is passing it on to one but

this one person is passing it on to another one and this person is passing it on to another one so each one of us just goes and passes it on to one person let's say but because so it's going it's dropping down in tens and fives and it's going on like that that in my understanding doesn't necessarily I mean I would consider that a weaker approach at looking at what about it in my understand that does that evade absolute categorical doubt I mean it absolutely it Radek AIT's any ounce of doubt I would have thought in my understanding that no that doesn't that could they

could still be question marks I mean I'm not saying that they are but they could be question marks on a scale like that whereas on the first scale and that is how the Quran has been transmitted that each person has gone off and they've taught and they've taught and they've taught so that would be motivated right so--okay motor water hadith they say is kata conclusive it carries the same strength as what would be a verse a clear verse of the Quran there's that type of strength now this is motor water in its wording motor

water can have two can have two branches okay motor water in its wording and motor water in its meaning so motor water in its meaning name is that if something let's say let's say there's a hadith symbolizing something like let's say the professor Allison um the example he gives here is ruff earlier than fit to are now that the professor Adam raised his hands indoor now this they say so many hadith in the tens and tens and

tens that you know maybe even up to a hundred they say that where the processor is making the iron is raised his hand but they're not the same hadith the different incidents but they've all got the common a common type of denominator that you've got this one incident that is being replicated in all of them so that incident may have a a semantic or a symbolic taught or conclusiveness doing it to it that look this this incident has appeared in a hundred different hadith although the hadith are talking about different situations

that would be called motor water alma a Nui motor water in terms of its meaning or symbolically some aspect of it motor water a loved is that same hadith with its exact wording is motor water so that same incident is being transmitted in so many places now here there is a claim which many people have made that there are many motor water hadn't I mean Imam a shot to be when he speaks about certain things he raised a big question mark that do motor water hadith even exists

personally I mean I I find that quite compelling and quite convincing the motor water hadith that I love thee in the actual wording to be motor water in the way we described them i I don't Allahu Alem but I would imagine that would be very difficult to exist like that to be documented like that maybe it existed but is it document how do we know it existed we only know what's documented so Buhari isn't going to none of these i hadith are going to document all these hundreds of people reporting back like that so do motor water hadith in their wording

motor water not just symbolic it may meaning yes okay you can get a hundred different hadith that all have a common denominator but they're talking about different incidents but to get the same hadith that has come through tomorrow of change these multiple huge mass transmissions I mean I I'm more inclined to believing in agreeing that they don't actually exist like that okay that that's what some people have raised that although generally a lot of people do you feel that look there's many books written that say like for example Imams

UT wrote a book called Good Fellas hard to do with the motor water hadith one of the more recent kotani's wrote a book normal motor Nasser fill a hadith a motor water or fill hadith in much water but the thing is that when these people have tried to say that they've collected motor water hadith I mean I think general Edina suti tried to bring forward 200 but strangely enough when it was critiqued and I mean they found a huge portion of them to be weak and they weren't even they didn't even reach the Dodge Asahi let alone I mean my own Ian's understanding for that is that

they are not going by that first definition that we had a motor water they if they're going by the definition that it just has to be transmitted by five people in different ways so I I transmit let's say to one person you transmit diversity five and therefore that's a motivator hadith that in my understanding because the purpose of motivator is something that there can be no doubt about not even a no point no one present doubt about it it is as conclusive as the Quran in my understanding that doesn't

hasn't happened in okay now what they mean by that is in its conclusiveness not in its revelation it's not that this is Quran but meaning that like let's say first of all I don't but my understanding is motor water in that lovely sense hasn't been transmitted in that sense but if it were then what they mean by it is the strength it carries so

let's say there's a Quran a clear voice of the Quran has a ruling like don't do this a clear hadith has a ruling according to certain scholars they are not in the same category according to many they are so it avoids that debate altogether because although all scholars would recognize that the hadith in its transmission is much weaker than the Quran but they will say look if the verse says this is Haram something is Haram and the hadith is telling you something else is Haram then fine they both Haram even though the core the

hadith in its transmission is weaker like the chain isn't as motivated as the Quran the way the Quran report down to us so that's some scholars that most scholars will all say look despite the difference the discrepancy in the transmission they are both if they make something Haram they equally Haram yeah some scholars like the Hanna fear have said no they've said that look if anything comes from the hadith then it can only reach the level of makrooh Tahari me can't reach the level of haram although they makrooh Tahari me still another version of haram but it's just a slightly lesser

version no hadith Qudsi no no hadith Qudsi is talking about hadith which are inspired as Allah speaking but they're not revelation it's not like Quran but it's an inspiration of what Allah is saying so it's not the process or add something but these Haditha talking about what the Prophet is saying so just to kind of clarify look rulings the Quran says something is Haram or something is obligatory the hadith says certain things are Haram and certain things are obligatory according to most scholars

even though the hadith have been have been brought to us through a weaker channel if you like so what it's saying is imagine the Quran is bringing it is optic fiber it's being brought to us like that just say you've got something like proper absolute solid the transmission of it to us now on the other hand it's not even it's something like let's say hadith some of us are coming maybe coming to us some of them on like dial up something which is slow it's not as strong but they're saying the message in the end in saying this is

Haram and this is halal or this is why cheap and this is or this is for them this is what most scholars say that's the same will take the same impact I mean we will receive this will receive the message with a similar impact like if it says Haram it's Haram the Hanafi I have said know that if it comes to us through a hadith with a weaker transmission something like I'm saying like if it's dial up say no if it says Haram it doesn't become a Haram e becomes makuta hurry me if it says it's for the it doesn't become further we call it watch it that's the Hana fear although in essence they're similar in they were in the

world anyway no it's not that they saying you don't act upon them the thing you have to act upon them but you don't call it by the same category out another distinction they make they say if a person did in car if he rejected one of those rulings that came from the Quran that it's qu4 it becomes a kaffir if you reject it one of the rulings that came from the hadith in that transmission it would be just fist it wouldn't be Kufa because it's come through a weaker transmission so it becomes a bit technical the debate that's really with the Hanna via the other methods don't make that difference they say look if we

take it just in its efficacy as the Quran in its effectiveness okay the question you see the thing is you know he's what he's this is a popular one that people bring here this thing where he's cannibal as well but the thing is that this famous hadith that man cares about alia forget about what

mikado mean and now that they say that up too I mean he's stating up to 70 Sahaba have transmitted that the question has been you see now when people say that's motor water once again it's coming back to definition what is your definition of motor water if because and your definition hinges on what is the purpose of having this category so the purpose of motor water is supposed to be something that has zero percent doubting me that isn't that widespread so knowing that so like people say no knowing that China exists

even though you've never been there is you're not gonna just doubt it because one person comes up to you and says do you really believe it exists have you ever been there because it's so then it's so widespread that to deny would wouldn't make sense just because somebody comes in questions in that way to have such strength what they call Elmer got a conclusive ill about something if in to me that would only in mind sir only work in the first definition that we that we gave that each person that so many people are transmitting it and from

them so many and from them so many so it's exponentially kind of growing out it's not just like coming down as it as a tunnel it's it's it's multiplying each layer significantly that would become impossible in my understanding to have any doubt in that if it came down at a single layer it just as a tunnel you just you're saying well five transmitted as in five or ten independent from them ten from them ten I mean by that definition yes they will this is why

they say those who say their Armour to what elite they going with that definition the only question mark there is that does that entirely eradicate all I doubt categorically I would personally feel that it although it does an excellent job eradicating doubt but I don't believe that it categorically would remove everything I mean could a person not even have a no point whatever percent doubt or one percent doubt or only one might be strong but even below that what is it just so categorical now this is the question so those people who

say look these habits are motivated like suti they're saying that this is fine it suffices for conclusive knowledge even according to the Hanafi is denying what about it would be cool for denying much water were the question now is this motor water exists though and then the question is well exists but according to what definition because if you change your definition then what you were all calling it motor water like if you say well ii mean what water is fine as long as five people from five people are

transmitting it so you just have to find five or ten isolated incidents so you've got one isolated hadith east one isolated and the croaking about the same thing I put them together I said this is motor water so then you because we're using the same words what's worth it you're gonna say well of course there's plenty of motor water but if I'm going by now ten people from them ten people from them ten people in who's documented that nobody's documented it like that so we're gonna struggle to find anything like that so that's what it is okay so that's motor water anyway what does exist definitely is something

which is symbolically motor water motor water with by meaning okay bill mana something which all what they call sometimes is the karate as well which is where you look at so many different things and you derive a common denominator okay you say that by you know by taking a comprehensive look at something we can find so for example let's say you know sewell you get a lot of this that let's say the principal that harm should be removed that is a cutter a principal a conclusive principle in the Sharia that there is no doubting but how did you arrive at it

being conclusive well there's so many different verses of the Quran so many different hadith so many different things that all have the common denominator that wherever this harm Islam wants it to be removed the harm to be removed so therefore one thing you could derive as ik you could say well looking at all of these harm should be removed as a principle is cut that is conclusive okay so that's another way people look at things so okay so that's the motor water thing aside the other category is known as Coble a hat okay this is the bulk of hadith that we have really it falls under this category

Hubbell aha now this is a hadith which usually come down from one person or maybe two and we're gonna see some differences but they come through these type of isolated links okay now some people do you split them up further into saying if something had if something wasn't more in a simple sense if something isn't motor water is habala hot some people have said look if it's being transmitted by let's say in each chain three people three two three

two three just three two three this is called mush okay some people have given it that name musher this is still isn't motor water so it's to Fulton to the habala hat category that if in each chain there was three no more purchased three so they say that's strong although it's not much water very strong if there were - they call it a Z's

so as an example of a hadith that is mature the innallaha logic of adora element is an yantisoaman Belyakov a dilemma that Allah will not just snatch him just suddenly he will remove it by removing the people of knowledge until eventually there's none and the hadith is popular right now okay right okay let's just try - so much for according

to the more had they thin okay that's what it means my shoulder otherwise what is it much the word mush for me yeah like popular so something popular doesn't have to be so much sometimes you gotta be careful when you're reading texts that people sometimes will use words that they're not using them technically or they're not using them technically according to that science so you might get a scholar say oh this hadith is really much more

in a fit book saying oh and it's really much cooler Hadees talking about this but he's not using much rule to mean that hadith my show like this this type of my food he's just using it as the Arabic word but this is all this and it's really popular as in it's so popular by you it's probably made up it's probably weak I'll give an example the hadith on e and he actually uses as an example here as well that Abdul Holland in a lotta luck that this that the worst or the most despised halal in you know to allies the luck so that's soaked up most Muslims know that honey that you know you speak to Muslim they first thing they say oh the lark is like

one of the most useful it's a much who had these meaning that it's so popular but it's actually a weak hadith so it's not much rule technically it's just much more linguistically that be it's as popular okay Aziz the Aziz category I mentioned that having at least two people in each chain okay let's and I'll give you a hadith an example a hadith that is in it is in the sahi hain what

are the sighing the same is to write the ain at the end is for jewel Bihari and Muslim right otherwise known as the two who transmitted them are known as the share feign the two shares okay but I mean once again depends who you're talking to if you said share hain in a hadith II context we're talking about through dogma say chef ain't like we're reading this hadith and we say the word share thing told my Bukhari and Muslim

but we're reading yeah but no but they known as the two shares in the hadith world if you say the two shares it straightaway goes to we're talking about Buhari and Muslim so they won't say their name they'll just say oh the two chefs had this and you know exactly of the Toma Bihari Muslim because they are the two shifts in the world of hadith they known as the to shake that's what they known but but let's say you're reading a Hannity fit book it's not Hadees book 115 he says the two shifts who are the two shifts

now our use of an imam abu hanifa they known as the two shifts okay so within the molecule method if they say the two shares and copy.c they known as the to share so if is that if you're reading a Maliki fake book and I said oh the two shifts have said this share hain oh you're talking about if nobody's al Qaeda whiny and acaba see we live together in like ways modern-day Tunis but so the point is it depends on the Science in art either when they mentioned sometimes the share feign as

in not the books of a kid sometimes when they they referring in terms of ceará when they're looking at Syria as well suffer to a worker and Omar or the allahu anhu ma as sharing so the point is it's all contextual that's important so the hadith let me know I had to come hatak una Hubbell a min worried he were led he went nasi I'd you mind that none of you believed until I become more beloved to him than his father his child and then all people this is an aziz hadith as they say so he gives the chain

here what Abajo Ana's pasado Abdul Aziz in the safe see from anis these two transmitted orowan kitada shopper aside and shop and Sayid transmitted from Qatar de Oro and Abdul Aziz is my Lebanon Leia Walter worried or Abajo and Cooling Jima and from each one of these a group that is Aziz but this is all still part of the non-motor what if this all falls in the habala had which is what the main body of hadith ah okay this hadith by the way none of you believed until I become more beloved to to him then

then everybody do you think that is a real love as in do you think first of all that's possible and that is what the hadith is demanding so people would have let's say right

okay we're filtering out the knock-knock joke no it's a good point actually very specific doesn't technically live with [Laughter]

you see because the hadith is saying that none of you believed until I am more beloved to you then meanwhile II the he where well II the evil message mine and then all people you see P people have an attachment and I love let's say for people for the children whether it's for their parents for the 22 years that you explained that they with them but the thing is that that is it's like instinctual listening especially I suppose with the appearance

you're growing up with them and with friends it's you've got commonalities and I suppose with children it's instinctual like you see you'll be instinctively they can you just have that or a stronger love I suppose nobody's met the proselytism right here nobody's we've read about proselytism now we've heard about him through him the Dean has reached us could we have that type of the effect affection love from that level that emotional love on that level as we could for people around this became a debate among scholars many

ulema actually said many in fact I from what I recall from Mike from the classes we were in that they were the majority of Olimar said that this is a rational love that is being requested not an emotional it's true that's true Aloha

not true that's you see the thing is what you're saying I totally understand and I do believe that uncle like it's incomparable there any other civilization or any religion or any way of life or any philosophy or anything movement has matched Islam in that way the what Muslims have the love they've had for the process of al-salam that is true however in accordance is holding that hadith they that none of you believed I remember this is to the entire Muslim body then so every single person loves the process on that level

if not then easing a believer that would be a very high threshold for every single Muslim on the face of earth forever vie for the skull is keeping that in mind have said you know this this type of demand that is on them that you that this it must be to this level is a rational love that is the demand although the hope is that maybe will become an emotional love but for everybody the demand is the imperative is that the that it must be a rational love that you know rationally although Imam al-ghazali from what I've

was taught that salt it was an emotional love that in the condition in the actual hadith the process was talking about an emotional it wasn't talking about the rational love so rationally you can love for example you can love something because you know the outcome like like you say oh yeah I'll do that not be like for example your person will undergo surgery they will take medicine they will do something which they don't even want to because they are they loving it for the outcome in mind so at the very least a person that is the minimum that for the

outcome which is the arkarow that the love for the machine will assalam is paramount and then with the intention that inshallah is an emotional love as well as Cheryl home has explained Allah right so right so the hurry-hurry is a hadith it's not her Eve isn't very black the Ordo very which means poor very bernard weak means her Eve in Arabic

means what is relieved mean yeah it means that no in linguistically it just means like strange something that is although strange or that is known as hurry okay so as the process of Allison says you know but al Islam over eben or say Udo was a how to come a Buddha that Islam began as something strange as like odd amongst its surrounding and it will eventually return to that as well in in later time that many people will find themselves

feeling and odds or not with it but they'll find odd with society because of the theme that all of a sudden become strange again in your surroundings right now now this is a hadith which a whole hadith LDS telugu urvashi shafts on why one person transmits it in every either in every single chain Oh pheeb are the topic artisan as well of it o or it might have two people in each ain't but one lay one layer of the chain has at least only one person in it that becomes

a RIBA hadith and so that is most of the a hadith innocence that they come through just single or at least in one layer of it there's just one person transmitting so as a as an example the hadith in the Mulla Mulla vignette that umar IBN al-khattab radiyaallahu on is the sole transmitter right and he says okay so even though this is a very popular hadith in malama loop in yet but it begins with just once a hobby no more than one just once or hobby transmits

this incident this enamel are my opinion so when one person transmits it it becomes what they call re but sometimes they call it further okay single they can call it sometimes further MOT luck which means clear further and that's if right from the very beginning only one person transmitted a like that hadith day in a malama loop in yet oh maybe three people two people transmitted at the beginning but some way down the line it gets restricted to just one person only and then from him other people take it as the example that when the

professor Allison the hadith that when the Prophet sallallaahu entered Makkah and he was wearing a helmet so the hadith all of a sudden when it reaches Malik he's the sole transmitter okay right so this now finishes all of that and it brings us to now we're going to take a look that was in terms of transmissions now we're going to look at in terms of accepting and rejecting because up until now we haven't been talking about whether you accept or

whether you reject a hadith so it says or you can customer Habra I had me my food so I mentioned all of that now we're going to take a look there's two categories really broad categories so it's come down we've taken a look at initially this if you're starting up dates coming down we've got motor water on one side table had it has these layers of tell me some of the names that it has like if three people or any chain ma sure water by have two people aziz if it's just one person hurry

so that's the bulk of them yet now it's going to get to it's gonna split off into two kind of camps if you like one is McCool and one is mottled okay some bull not the the Bollywood movie math fool all right but one is one is mud and one is martyred right so what is mul mean accepted so basically one category will be those are

hadeeth we accept mar 2015 22 those which are externally sorry so not because of they supported so they became sorry and those which are hasan and those which became hasson so we'll take a look at I'm thinking shall we do this

aji and Hasan yeah what do you think German so Asahi hadith linguistically saw him in something which is sound and Methuselah senator who be not Lila Adelaide Bobbitt I'm Italy he he lamented home invader saluting Allah Allah that he has five conditions that it is a love sonnet that this the chains can be connected the has the transmitters I deliver what they they they have Adil so it is all the Sonata

is connected that they are righteous people that they are Bob Torah wat that they are precise in their transmission so not only are they the right people as in of the religion they're righteous then they know what they're doing but they also precise in their wording meticulous okay and there's no Shizu there's no problem there's no should do this something no like rarity or extreme rarity oddness yeah like no ordinal oddity about and that

can be about the chain or about the content what the hadith says so it can be you get a sound chain and then order certain sing something totally strange contradicts all of Islam you know wait I mean that's a problem somebody's made this up that can't be right so o Allah and that Allah is a defect but it's usually a like a hidden defect which most people just you and I and people like we can't tell but a scholar of hadith can detect certain defects so as

an example you will get sometimes in the let's say the hadith let's say what the Maliki I use this a hadith which is in the what thought that the professor Allison forbade prohibited any creature that has coonley the Nabi - about that that has possesses a canine like from any predatory type of animal was the meth lab a minute period and any basically birds of prey any birds of

prey and predatory beasts that's Asahi hadith from Abu Huraira wrote a aloha yet the school of Medina said that these animals are not Haram said they're only makrooh in fact birds of prey are completely Hollow may not even mock ruin and predatory animals like lions and tigers and I know tigers are endangered but not that people eat them anyway but I mean but all I wolves or anything like that is really just my crew to eat so alright even right the only thing with rodents is that they not have in the Maliki metal school of Medina

by popular transmission very few things are haram these things which are makrooh now there's just that bee is actually just editing and cut and pasted and repeated every the thing is that the food this predatory beasts they mackerel but people don't tend to usually I suppose maybe people do hunt lions and other nice they eat them but I mean it would be interesting to you I'd love to taste just to see what it's like well I suppose anyway the thing is then there's like rodents and stuff like this that if

it's venomous or if it's gonna be poisonous or dangerous toxic in its like obviously rats contain a lot of water on all these type of yeah so we're gonna come to that good point good point I thought I could dazzle you guys are confusing until you get all enticed by wanting to eat all these tropics would it okay not know serve rats and things like that are not haram purrs they not Haram but I mean this guideline saying look if like for example snakes they're not considered Haram per se but the

Illuma have said that if if the poison is dangerous then that is maybe Haram but not the meat per se so if a person could you know I don't know bypass that in any particular weight and that would be fine insects for example according to the Malcolm s about Haram so this is why all the you know these products you get with these beetles type of things crushed or whatever it is in storage if yeah yeah yeah so I mean so this type of stuff the insects know good question how do you eat how do you get hold of these things well just as you can't do this above a

lion as you can imagine because one minute coming it got him in a headlock or eyes you can imagine wouldn't quite work so with those type of animals it's hunting so obviously if it was traditionally be I don't know arrows beer what if and bismillah Allahu Akbar obviously we're docile creatures you do the back of them the slaughtering and with camels this what they call a car which is where they from underneath kind of stabbed the camels they don't actually you know slaughter like camels obviously the neck is way too so things like for example

elephants or there's the debate that would you it'd probably be I mean if they if you if they were to be still probably be done the same way as a camel obviously you couldn't do in a another way or unless they were hunted if they were hunted then they would just be shorter or something this is if traditionally or there would be arrows or Spears or whatever it was for other so for birds or sorry for animals of the sea if they just removed and they they just die that's halal for other animals you simply they simply killed we'd be smell a lot but there isn't as a bar like there isn't but let's say

saying insects they're not killed like you know they yeah like so let's say scorpions or something like this they're not Bernie now you're not gonna try and slaughter them or anything you don't do a slaughter for except docile table is only for the soul okay so it's only the Malek here that really allow it in my as far as I'm aware that out of the popular schools anyway because you see the other schools see they seem to take an approach almost when it comes to food I seem to take an approach which is like almost that things you have to prove

them to be hollow almost they take although they imprint upon me not agree but in that they do that but in theory date I mean sorry but in practice they do now there isn't a hadith or anything no no no and the Maliki see they've taken like that verse of the Quran Allah a jido female or helium Haram and a lot I mean yet among Allah and that say I do not find from water has been revealed on to me for somebody who wishes to eat Haram except the following and that only mentions pig

blood which has been shed or animals which have been sacrificed further than a lie doesn't mention anything other than that so the thing is now therefore the Mauna Kea said well this verse of the Quran say is that so how can we know but I'm coming to the hadith by the way I haven't that's a separate discussion so now the Quran doesn't mention so the malkia and the school of Medina had said well so these things are why they mock rule is I mean people feel multiple reasons so for example this hadith

prohibiting these creatures some allama have felt all that may have been that a discouraging prohibition not a forbidding one so that's one interpretation to the hadith the other interpretation is an interesting one and that or is what the one I want to touch into about Allah a hidden defect you see a hidden defect doesn't have to be a defect per se but it could be a problem it's a spanner in the works so let's say this hadith now this hadith is if I

recall correctly I believe it's being transmitted after the companion from the people of I believe it's either Basara ocean all the way through so from all the chain so after the companion it's these people who were from it either bus route sham I mean but these people who are outside of Arabia in the chain so let's say the let's just say Abdul lies in writing from Zaid is narrating it from you know Abu Huraira or from somebody else let's say Sayid is narrating from overhead now

the thing is this people of Medina had asked that how can it be how can it be that a question or a matter that is so pertinent and so relevant to daily life like every single person eats every single day meat is so pertinent I mean everybody's gonna be cooking they're gonna be hunting how can it be that a hadith to do with prohibiting meat was not narrated by anybody in Medina even

though this is where the process Assam lived and this is where he taught and this is where you know Islam this was the bedrock of Islam I mean how can it be that nobody in Medina not transmits this hadith so even though those people who do transmit it from let's say Iraq or sham they per se they individually are sound people so let's say you're transmitting from him from him from now individually ural sound people but the question mark here and the spanner in the works is that how has this how can this be a daily phenomenon food this

question be so ubiquitous that it's on everybody's minds and nobody in Medina transmits it and yet companions in Medina teach otherwise so I shadowed along on her other companion said about a predatory meat that it's okay in there in when they were asked questions so this was a huge spanner in the works so this is what they would see as an Allah it's a hidden defect so it's not a defect to to the person who's just looking at it there's no defect but to a particular scholar he may find in a kind

of defect for him it renders this hadith I mean either void or all its problematic therefore they have to interpret it again in a different way so let's say the Hanafi school now they say okay we're gonna go simply with this hadith says all Creole let's say all birds of prey all predatory beasts are haram .

so what you know smooth it's simple we're gonna take it like that so it's all Haram but then you get a hadith in termi you in the sahaba are asking the proselytism is it okay if we hunt hyenas tweet and the process okay so I mean is a hyena not a bird of I mean sorry is a hyena not a beast of prey it is so the thing is in this situation the sheriff at ESA also if they've gone like the Hanafi as well we're taking a blanket statement all beasts of prey are haram predatory beasts sorry all Haram

however hyenas we're gonna make an exception the you see what then the question is what what's so special about hyenas why the exception for them why not a wolf why not I mean because either you're gonna go like the Hanafi and say look no blanket statement all but then they've got a problem what about this hadith no I mean you can try and no people will try and interpret they will and they will do that they will say look about what about and we accept that however then after the Prophet the Fattah WA of Aisha and other of the Sahaba of Medina were that

look predatory you know animals beasts are not Haram so so it kind of now because the Maliki is so it like that they saw it as look everything is halal unless proven otherwise therefore the process of Han is spoken about kangaroos but because everything is halal therefore they Hana now whereas other people would be reserved now they're thinking well I don't know II see so this is another interesting thing another interesting way to look at it is

this a hadith that the profiles no it's not no it's yes yes and no like yes the school of Medina will always prefer as Imam Malik said that we will never leave entirely those of Medina and go to those outside in the Maathai says that never well I'm a huge I'm jameelah to him he laughs alien that you know I never like even if I left this scholar but I held on to that one I never left them in their entirety the people of

Medina for non Medina's but that's not it's not saying that non Medina ins are necessarily incorrect but I'm just saying okay there is that principle but put that principle aside it's the matter the matter was food which was ubiquitous it was like everyday doesn't make any sense if it was a theoretical matter would be different enough no should we make an order okay that's not they would

hear Kinsey so I don't think the pigs what that they talk about pigs are like the way we see a pink and all this type of I don't think it's like I think they were talking about boars and stuff like that in general but what is interesting though is although the male Kia haven't done this but I've I've seen some question marks by other I'm not sure if your mom show can he follows it through but he definitely raises a question about why is it that in the Quran whenever pig is mentioned only he says the meat and not the fat or other things why does it always say LACMA Lindsay laughs

Mackenzie I never just concede although he I'm not sure if he follows that full you know through in saying well so the rest isn't Haram but other people haven't questioned it like that a pig categorically they accept the male Kia have probably I mean in food they have been most flexible and accommodating

yeah but bonsai are different I mean I'm talking in terms of animals here bones even this debate amongst the molecule yeah yeah they fix because the thing is they see you see the Hanafy I see the pig as not just alive it is inherently impure the chef area agree with them and they also see the dog as inherently pure impure as well and I believe our user from the Hanna fear also agrees with them under the Maliki I don't see any living creatures inherently impure even the pig they say life necessitates purity so the school of Medina sees that every living thing

is pure such wisdom it is it's you know it makes so much sense it's it's a very natural it says that look obviously this thing is Haram you can't eat it this thing whatever you know like the hadith says about the dog if it licks the bowl whatever you follow through but does it mean these things are inherently impure according to the school of Medina and life necessitates purity so every living thing is pure so no it's not inherently impure that then begs the question about you know leather because the processor

also said no hadith cool look they have in Cordoba Kulu have been do beautiful kata that every height of the animal the type of leather that is taken of it that is then cleansed has become pure there is debate amongst the malik here then a lot of the schools accept that hadith but they don't accept pig including the malkia some of the malik here they go both ways some of the Maliki ago be super strict on saying no we don't even allow this we don't allow wild animals no and some of them which is the what even though I have the student of Imam Malik transmits that know everything except pig just like the

rest of the schools is fine if it's been cleansed and then some take it a step further from the Maliki alike even our Delhi comments are known who say including pick if if it was cleansed if it was meaningful fight then it's fine because the hadith says could look it up so I mean it kind of fluctuates like yeah but that's just the exceptional like difference exceptional

circumstances what do you mean what's the question can we apply what part of the pig thing oh why is pink Haram let me send a quick text message why it does

something I made but is that necessarily the reason though I mean we don't know what the research isn't chicken actually quite bad in terms of its question time there was a documentary by eating pink

sausages and it does so the benefit of the Doris is that as long as you're cooking it properly it's around when it's undercooked it's not oh yeah no no

no no the thing is that we don't mind this Allahu Alem but I don't believe we know why the pig is Haram we know that it is Haram then this you see the thing is in assume and although this is all hadith but in absolute fact you learn that the Allah is the cause for something the causative element for something to be Haram so for example Allah says teaches us alcohol is Haram the Allah is the intoxication the intoxication is the reason why it's Haram now then there may be also what we call Hickam or hikmah

wisdom which so there may be other wisdoms surrounding as well the wisdom may also overlap with the course that Allah it may be identically may overlap it may be different there may be other wisdoms to it as well but they're not the sole cause so for example they may be alcohol has an addictive nature to it maybe this but that's not the cause that's another wisdom to stay away from me and it may be that it makes people do all sorts of but that's not the cause that's wisdom so now when we have the ill let the cause for something it's usually because it's been explained by either Allah or the messenger of allah

solanum now if other than that we can just guess the wisdom ok we can guess the wisdom so you but it doesn't mean we're accurate with the course so when we're saying look 1 some of the wisdoms of not eating pork is that it may carry disease or it may be dangerous if undercooked but I mean it may be but is that the Allah that may I mean I don't believe that's the Allah but I believe that maybe one of the wisdoms associated with it that it prevents disease and it does this in does that Allah on them

about the right so any of the other went completely off topic they should should do the sahi quickly right ok sorry so as we said it has these these five conditions to it the kid the chain is connected the narrator's must be just the narrator's must be precise you must have no oddities and it must have no defect okay so as a hadith I mean there's so many saw

here the let's say gives an example that the process Alison he mentioned the chain Buhari transmits from Abdullah Yusuf who says Malik from Shahab from Muhammad Ali to pay even more time from his father debated motive and I hear the processor al salam read in salat al maraa be sorted poor ok so that's this thing I mean there's so many sahih hadith okay now let's if you fought if they if a hadith asahi you must act in accordance with it obviously unless the Oh Lama have interpreted it in another in another manner in order for it to

kind of fit in comprehensively but just knowing a hadith Asahi having its ruling it must be acted upon if you hear some of the ala ma say this hadith Asahi what they mean by that is it has met these five conditions it doesn't if they say it is not sorry it means one or more of these five conditions is an issue by saying a hadith Asahi does it necessitate I know I said a moment ago that you must act about in accordance to it but it doesn't always necessitate

that that it has no other interpretation or there's not or there's no other confounding variables so for example in the school of Medina the hadith which Asahi will still be over like the the practice of Medina will override a sorry a bit because that is also classified as son and we'll explain that at a later date according to let's say that the hanafi madhhab these questions about you know I mean this this certain I mean I know these debates of what point can

what if it contradicts with chaos or it doesn't and I know that sometimes the Hanafi have been misrepresented on that point and they haven't actually always said it like that but anyway coming back to this point just because a hadith Asahi you know the chef mother Imam Shafi is famous statement either Saahil hadith Mohammed happy if the hadith is sorry then it is my method that is not the opinion of the other met helps potentially even the humblest although the humble ease do follow a large amount of the way but they also have things like masala masala where

they suspend so he had these for the wealthy so the Hanafi are definitely not they say that i hadith must still meet several conditions like if it's a sahi hadith but it's it's an isolated incident it sorry it's not my food it's not this it's not that and the masala is a movable why it's a ubiquitous masala then there's a question mark it's something which is everywhere then how can it be there's only one hadith addressing this issue especially if it's an everyday matter so they raise questions about how can it be that the you know saying bismillah r-rahman

r-rahim in salah that is only transmitted by this person when this was something that's happening every single day so many people should have done it Oh like the jinn possession how can it be that there's no reports of jinn position and if people are to believe okay but that one we've just just I did that but I mean yeah so it doesn't always mean that that is the method okay so and according to the my lakiya also the Hanafy have a conditioned I for hadith Asahi but it is contradicted by its narrator okay so so let's say Abu Hurairah transmits a hadith but he

himself is an act according to it so I'm ahora transmits the hadith of the hadith that if a bowl has been licked by a dog then it should be washed seven times but he himself says or if you wash it three times it's okay so the Hanif yourself eight so calling to them that's a defect here so this is this is the point you see so anyway according to the my lakiya these things like am Rahul in Medina the practice or the Sunnah of Medina overrides the transmitted hadith and things like no because that's this is just sorry way in this category of table had societies

because the American Medina the my lakiya believes that to be a motivator Sunnah that's why then in hadith people have this discussion what is the most sound chain of transmission a solace I need and as you know although there's many runners up right but the dawn chain of transmission is what Malik unnhhh a fair and abnormal so from Malik was transmitting from now if it was transmitting from abnormal and that is as Bahadur said a SIL set of the Hobby

at the golden chain right so now now they've had now I mean after Bihari got popular although people did disagree so there were some people who said that it was Malik on zaharie and Salim from his father you know from even our home our and some people said that was like Ahmed even handle said that that that one Zoe and Salim and from his father these other people even on Medini said from in

Assyrian from abida from Ali people had different ones even Amin said our mesh from Ibrahim from Allah , from abdullah al masud but that was mine but the popular one what is known as the golden chain by by le monde Buhari is Imam Malik from Navia from abnormal so one of the first and earliest books written about the sahi which sorry collects aji as they say here is they put Bihari first but really we know what the first one was it was obviously the MOT part of

Imam Malik but obviously it is that and then obviously after that comes things like Bihari okay right the thing is that no there's not a the thing is it's not about you see this what they call this a has settled the Omaha to sit is an arbitrary placement of books it doesn't make a huge there are other people who have placed April I fear for other people who did place them what da monks the and the

main set of books that's he's an even at our here he the first person who made those six and and that was his choice why he put that people have the reasons they say was trying to go about in a particular way some people said he maybe felt that the month I was included in most of those hadith anyway that were in those six so therefore there was no point in because most of the moth dies in either the sahi hain or the other books anyway so it's not a lot but anyway whatever he did he came up with that oh that's a very arbitrary just you know it's like somebody just saying oh I'm gonna group six books and this is what they are but many other people who

did that grouping actually placed them what bar in the end didn't place like even a match and things like that that's an interesting where people in actually too sure what I mumble Hardy was but I think the chef at yet but the chef a acclaim anybody one that's usually they just yeah I mean that Hanna fear to be fair to them have always have

usually been very fond of the motto as well although they haven't not all of them have have been that true to it but some of them have and have said that it is in a category so as surely Allah da Jaluit said he said that it is in a category of its own and then obviously is the the Sahin but also I mean the Maliki have always been clear on that Imam Shafi'i himself said that there is no book of after the Quran that is more sound and that's the rewire of Imam

Muhammad but yeah but except it's got a few variations in it yeah but the point thing the point is that it's yeah it is you see the mata has more than it has it is the first the oldest sahi we have a collection of hadith that we have today in the entire Muslim world it was done by an absolute legend or an undisputed legend of hadith Imam Malik who hasn't really been criticized for for his skill of hadith now the thing is in his book

he includes several a hadith where the chains are not connected that's because it was early days and in his time it was still an age of trust so later on people start saying no we don't care who you are we still want to see the entire chain and therefore they saying because Imam Malik still has you know here's about 1,800 hadith let's say give and take in the different narrations now out of them at least 700 will have the chains kind of missing or now oh they'll have it when I say missing parts of it may be missing so so they kind of they

feel that all they saying you know this ain't right and it needs to be objective and scientific whereas Imam Malik in his age it was more about trust it was about that the people of Medina have you know this hadith been passed down to me I'm passing it down to you it's been the fact that Imam Malik attorney it was done you know it's like they say wasn't it all the persons named I would have known Hussein is it I'm saying with the salt but anyway this Ravi who they weren't they had issues with imam Bihari says he had issues with and there's other people who said they had issues

with him but we never touched him because we knew Imam Malik transmitted from him this is the authority that Imam Ali carried I mean he carried that you know whoa like he is a robber yeah narrator that these people are not happy with people like a man Bihari they like now he ain't happy with this person we want to slate him but they know in my Malik transmitted from him and everybody steps back but you know Malik obviously he's a Don like we call to touch him now is to kind of say well what is he mom Malik doing for so this is the the this salvia this this

gives you a picture of what it was like in my Malik's time it was about trust yeah I mean yeah I mean but this is to know what these you mean like what is sahi what is this obviously this is just to tell us to understand to understand chains we just need to kind of see how they work and what of the skull is kind of agreed upon so okay all right people now the so

that's the thing about the about the sahi it is obviously usually Bihari than Muslim these are some people people who generally feel that Bihari is more Assad is more valid than Muslim although a lot of the people of the mockery but a lot of the Maliki used to usually prefer sorry Muslim over Bihari this is why when you get a lot of the books of the Maliki ax they usually referring to their hadith back to Sai Muslim like let's say the at of mockery and these people these as opposed to BA it does refer him to Bihari is always referring more to Muslim also Sahih Muslim is better organized much better

organized the question did Imam Bukhari and Muslim exhaust the sahi in the collections what do you think obviously not obviously know that's that's clearly not the not the case see as imam baharat neukölln Buhari and now Paloma tractor - aha actor remember Hari himself says and what I left out from the sahih collection was more than what I put it okay and he's you know he's included probably about I mean this probably around 8,000 hadith and without

the repetitions and everything probably are four five thousand Holi inside Bihari and in fact we've got the precise numbers here come idle a hadith wickedly mean human body has 7275 hadith which include the repetition so so as you've got this 7275 soul rounding that up as I said to eight thousand and when you remove that the repeat the repetitive transmissions you have about four thousand okay and Muslim has around if about twelve thousand including the

repetition and if you remove them it brings it down to about four thousand as well so a lot of them repeated as you can see right so this many other collections that have sahih hadith by the way books like Sahib nahi ban even a headband sorry even a Jose Messiah some in the most adorable hack him the other books of hadith like tell me the Abu Dawood Nasser all these type of dark Utne very happy all of these have so it's not that so he is not restricted

to these mean usually hadith the the effort to preserve hadith and Sunna was a collective a huge almost like a communal effort by the Ummah done by usually Alesana and they in fact some people believe that is what then formed Allison neither the movement to preserve hadith was their thing so you don't see

usually other schools have that type of in like my hadith in that work too kind do you think I mean they they I'm sure they did as well but not on that scale okay so and I'm sure they do have the books as well but obviously they're things have mean sometimes imaginably they've been critiqued by Allison just as they refuse to accept really from Allison even more than 4-thousand I mean the mom Alec says he continued to kind of he kind of like filter through them

and filter through them now I don't think is necessarily weakness but it may have been things like repetition they may have been things that he felt somewhat unsuitable no but the ones he had the saw he wants he said but he said in my malik said this many hadith which i don't feel a suitable to discuss in front of people so he kind of he didn't used to so certain hadith which people say for example that people now say aught to do with the attributes of Allah and stuff like my mother was very strict about narrating transmitting or speaking

about these type of things say that which one more week okay I mean I don't bring it to me we'll look it up and genre so right okay now so as an example this Sahib hit ban I mentioned it's a book that's actually quite they say it's very unique in the sense that it's not

done according to the books of fifth and it's not gonna go into the Messiah need but what it says that he called it a car similar and wha that he has a really strange way of organizing even he binders which is made it very difficult for people and some of the later days scholars had reorganized it ignore Jose myrrh which they say is more sound than Sahib nahi ban and then you have books like most AHA Jets Mustafa jet by the

way or books which and a scholar of hadith will visit a collection of hadith so let's say he'll go to Sahel Bihari and and obviously that's already there so I held Buhari has got its chains and what he will do is it says in yeah TL Mehsana feel a key term in Coatesville hadith for you hurry jihad Ito be as I need enough see he I mean high rhetoric a Sahib will get up for your stomach on my own fishery on month oka that you see people like somebody will come to Bihari you'll take out all the hadith of Bihari but you go through your chain not

including him but you'll end up meeting with either his teacher somebody further oh that's called a monster courage okay so meaning that it's supposed to be still on the same level as well like as in I mean I suppose it doesn't have to but they I mean sorry I'm stuck already that you're what you're trying to do is you're trying to show diversity in Chains you're trying to say look yeah like you're trying to say look here I'm gonna meet this person at this point so I'm gonna bring my chain it's just a is something that my hardly seen

but anyways I'm moving on mm-hmm what is the obviously people today say what is in the Sahin in Hadi Muslim has a solid there is a debate about what is its level and is it Qatar is a conclusive or not and it's best to still really leave it as you know just like very sound but to maybe avoid saying it's inclusive Cateye right now I don't know if you

know do any of you do you know what the condition of imam bukhari was for his sahi know me that's the condition to be a sahih hadith but what did Imam Hadi have as his own yeah now he but the thing is you see everybody has the condition of yeah but they have to have

had the possibility of meeting but Buhari yeah but the thing is imam Buhari tried to kind of make his condition a bit more intense he tried to say that it's not just that they had to have overlapped and there was this possibility of it had to that they had to have mentioned for example that i

studied from this person or i did like because normally the way the hadith chains work is let's say Qasim here says he transmits from naff like something in a hadith like you say I'm this person which means from this person now people coming 400 years after they don't know who you whether you actually studied from each other so what they would do is look at okay when were you born when did you die when were you born when did you die what parts of the world we did you travel so imagine you're from America and you're from the UK and I think well well how did he hear from him then but then it

says oh well you actually came to the UK on three occasions so think oh well that's possible then oh I mean older but there's gotta be some because many all of my yeah you're right or it could have been but Hodge a lot of the time people may not have been transmitting on that scale but let's just say you've said that now so this plausible ground that's fine but remember Hardy was a bit on top when he didn't like the understanding is that he made extra conditions now this is what people have kind of extracted from his writings and I mean especially from Imam Muslims refutation of him as well

because mom Muslim refutes him and then Imam Muslim tries to he's refuting certain conditions and he's saying these are his condition so you start to understand that will apply allegedly because mumble Hari was among Muslims teacher so you have this understanding that wait a minute he must have had these conditions then so remember heart is saying that it's not just can't just be plausible it can't just be well you came to England on three occasions you have to somewhere mention him amongst your teachers as well like you know you have to say oh by the way I have heard from Hadees from this person or you

narrate something else from him at another so let's say in another hadith you mentioned that had death Anna oh I heard him say something now because you're saying I heard him say something that means you obviously present with him now if in another hadith you mentioned Oh on the authority of of this person it's okay because we know you've actually heard him so the likelihood is you heard this from him as well even though technically it could be that you heard the first thing from him but the second thing you heard through someone

else it's like this likelihood yeah that just because you're transmitting things from it doesn't mean you have to have heard everything but because the likelihood is there then that's okay so I'm a mihari tried to take it up a notch obviously my Muslim criticizes him for not being able to do it on so many counts he says that you know he failed to meet his condition but but he tries his best obviously to to do that so that really takes us up to sahi is is done that takes us up to Hasan obviously it's come to oh it's been quite a but I mean what

we're going to do from here onwards insha Allah will be just explaining some of the definitions and trying to you know just give some examples and move on just so we can get it out the way ASAP B is Nilay not to move on ROC you've been working out and that way we can shall move on from here the aim is to to do this to do a quick kind of recap through your poem and then to move on to actual a hadith maybe yeah so well I own Anil hamdulillah he rabbil alameen Baraka la vie comme zaqqum illallah wa

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