Dispelling The Satanic Verses | Meaning With MALM 39

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for that let's see who we have with us scorpio from barbados indeed quranic islam quranic islam on board that's good to hear seven earths [Laughter] the seven earth's followers people get so

much love from darwin australia naveed from kansas city missouri alright and doc you two in it you do in it right people so ah ah luckily i bought myself a some coffee here

so what's happening with my with my hair right let's not waste time people uh let's i wanted to take a look today but let me bring up the file uh-huh

right so i want to take a look at this theme as a quranic guidance which is tied the following topic of wha what if it were now put that aside for a moment i really want to focus today's session on the satanic verses salman rushdie and just an overview an evaluation may be psychoanalyzed

um this man in question salman rushdie right and also discuss the book satanic verses what is this book about why it rose to infamous notoriety and what is at the crux of this debate what are the the satanic verses so and look at look at the islamic angle on that as well so michael dempsey

doing it i feel i must say theologisticity what a name for a channel right so why i want to look at these themes um because it's very relevant right now and we'll come back to this let's start as always we'll i should have some sha allah

people a poem that is one of from a length from a russell that i've read on a few occasions previously the famous that don't ask me for the first love the love of the first kind that is um a non-repeat

it's an epic razzle by phase that has been sung on several occasions and it's so popular but this line or this couplet from it and these two couplets but this is an interesting perspective

it would be um it would ah that if something has been kind of controlled has been dominated that it has to hang low and submit itself okay destiny would have been dominated and be under my control

this line is epic he says it wasn't such like don't be mistaken that didn't happen he says it [Laughter] this is from the motif of what if it were now this what if it were is an interesting theme because

it can go one of two ways see this what if it has a directionality to it it can go forwards into the future or backwards into the past that what if it were as the poet says

that that which has gone i can never return it to me list these are arabic terms that are used to express a a kind of lamenting reminisce for the past yeah laffer or it's like yeah later if only you know in urdu we have this word gosh

the famous song by sharokhan keham that very old classic see old old people yeah we've now reached this age so this saying this gosh if only wow i should have i could have i would have these things when it's done in the past and we all do this

it can be quite perilous it can be quite debilitating it can depress you frustrate you annoy you it can it can at times even ruin your potential that if only yeah if only this were had happened if only i'd done this if only i'd taken that choice if only i'd taken that job offer if only i'd started that business idea if only i'd

pursued that relationship if only i'd not pursued this relationship if only i'd done this if only i done that that's a later later in arabic is meanwhile those people that know the grammar now later is this

if only he says if only my youth would return to me someday for uh then i may be able to then i would tell it what old age has done to me i would complain so that is what if if in the past but what if for the future can be incredibly empowering that what if

i take this path what if i decide to do this what if i go that extra step what if i take this risk it's the same what if it's the direction in which you project it into the future it can change your life into the past it can you so that's this what if and in this poem there's an element of that

where he says he says it wasn't such that if i had had you then destiny itself would have been subservient to me this is an app it's an incredible it's

one of the most you know it's an immortalized eternalized um couplet from from this poem that there are other melancholies other problems other issues other catastrophes in life besides [Laughter]

that besides meeting a somebody you love a beloved there's other joys in life too this was said by faith but it was the first poem i really first couple it i wanted to in light of with today's theme of what if right now let me just bring this up

and this poem an interesting couplet to do with once again looking forward but with that courage to look life directly in the eyes that is that life he's addressing life or she's addressing life that no matter how many more events of bitterness that you will increase like no matter what bitterness what

problems what issues what tragedies you bring vada that i promise you i will spend i will pass by you as in spend life past life smiling i think these things are so empowering to always as a reminder see these things

this was i saw this i thought ah this is in the style of it's not actually john elias but it's in the style of captain [Laughter] humorous one that how long can we remain riddled in ish ah oh right okay since i i put this on there i didn't realize um it's a totally random thing it shouldn't

really be on there but yeah it's really fascinating i came across this actually um in recent days that this that geneticists have have broken down and realized that this person i think they've they've named her uh denny and she we have some fossils like a finger and uh

i believe a tooth and things like this from the denise of a cave in siberia of this individual and it now turns out that denny she and i'm assuming the gender no it wasn't she so denny was a hybrid child of a neanderthal and a denisovan and it mentioned that the mother was a neanderthal mother and a denisovan father

so they had hybridized this child and it's the only known record we have of such a hybrid hominin species that is a descendant of directly two different species it's fascinating it's just wow um so there's some stuff online about that um paolo cervantes who's one of the leading uh paleontologists and specialists on this field he has certain things on it but yeah all right

i'll just so what i actually i wanted to take a look at this verse today of what if it were and then i'll just take a look at what you're saying and we'll come back to um all right so just a moment right um

right we'll come to some of these questions in just a moment this theme or this topic of what if it were i wanted to take a look at this verse 52 of suratul hajj and this is very relevant to the verses we're going to take a look at or the the discussion sorry of the satanic verses we'll be taking a look at uh in a while and salman rushdie and this whole incident because it's anchored in this verse but this verse i wanted to explain

in light of this theme is now this verse there's so much that could be unpacked here but let's just take a look at it from this perspective

that we did not send before you any prophet or messenger now one interesting point here is that prophets and messengers are not simply synonyms that they are different entities so that's a discussion that people have had that what's a rasool and what's a nabi so and there's several definitions but the most of a popular one is that a rasool

that every rasool is a nabi but not every nabi is a rasool and rasool is a nabi who has been sent out to his people and a nabi is not necessarily sent out to his people or her people because many people have argued that they were also female ambiya okay so like maryam and several people are of that opinion that mary was a prophetess she was a prophet um and ibn hassan was a great discussion

on that in his book and i find myself in line with those do feel maryam uh was a prophet so okay that discussion is aside illa tamanna except when they desired now here this tamanna al-kashy um

except that when they have these wishes the shaytan tries to plague their wishes and desires their thoughts but allah cancels nulls renders null renders inactive

this negative action of the shape thereafter allah shows or solidifies his signs his symbols his ayat his verses

indeed allah is all knowing most wise now this verse here one way of looking at this verse is that we as in cern and here ambia and russell are human beings then they are from human beings to human beings we at times may think what if such and such was what if if you know what if it was to be have been like this and this is a very normal

process to think like this but there are dangers that if we think if we dwell on these things here is described that the shaytan could grip you he could plunge you submerge you into into attempt to submerge you into an abyss

with these thoughts of the past or if such and such had happened in such and such way these things can derail your mission and if let's and here in this verse if a prophet was to think and it's normal if a prophet was to think that if the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam was to think i wish all my people didn't resist in this way i wish

such and such people would embrace islam if only these people would be were to be more kind and show this would it be that if such and such tribe had had come to guidance and such and such had materialized if only these collective settlements were to come round to this faith and

and not reject the quran in this word if all now these thoughts are coming from a place of compassion and the prophets and the umbia and by extension all of us human beings this is a lesson for us all we all have these thoughts we may not be having them in light of compassion for the ummah we ought to but we may not we may just be having them for ourselves for our family oh if only my child had done such and such oh if only these people weren't

in such you know weren't such such bad people or if only this hadn't happened to me in the past if only these are very natural psychological occurrences to think like this now the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam also thought that if only my people would embrace this message of god

here when we think like this we can sure it's it's very normal but we can find allah says that the using the using the word here the shaitaan can take a person deeper into this dwelling in such a way that it could depress you

it could it could thereby derail you from your mission and this is to the prophets and the and the russell and the ambiya the messengers but it's to us by extension as well if i keep thinking yeah if only i did that degree if only i got into that relationship at that time with such and such person if only i started at that or if only i bought bitcoin when it first started if we keep if we allow the shaytan to pull us deeper

into this abyss of negative ruminations of missed opportunities it can us allah mentions here for yansa now this is primarily to the umbria that but by extension to all people who read the quran that allah why you see nasa is to wipe clear almost to cancel to

we could say today to render null and void inactive allah renders these negative actions this negative um these thoughts ruminations allah renders them null and for it

but we how how does he but by us remembering bringing into mindfulness allah and his strat his his decree his his wisdom see okay i didn't do such and such okay i didn't take that job at that time okay i didn't pursue that goal that relationship i didn't start that business at that time i didn't buy bitcoin when it first happened this is

for at our level you zoom in in the verse to to the rasool to the umbia at their level that okay these people are not embracing the message okay those people are not being compassionate towards you okay these people are not refraining from making life hell for the believers take it now one

see allah is bringing you back to the now you focus you strategize you plan for the future by moving forward from the present it didn't happen then but what are we doing about making a difference for the future

allah teaches us in his ayat and not just his ayat in his signs in his symbols around us in the world that fortune favors the bold sure by by sitting around and just saying if only if only nothing comes to you lost

but i need to get up and do something you know that a person that um as the poet says that um there's no goodness in a person who's just speaking about the past or a legacy that wasn't it's not his even if it was his father's or he was something but when you ask what about you what

about now they just hang their head in despondency there's no goodness in that moving forward we see in the signs that it's only by planning by facing adversity that allah writes success and you can change you can see history what will be history being made

allah solidifies his signs in reality and his ayat in the quran by teaching you that that it's your act you do there will be adversity it doesn't matter you keep marching forward allah is all-knowing you know sometimes check this out we're with sometimes maybe we're in a difficult situation we're quite freaked out about something

but there's a person with us that's just calm and their calmness reassures us it's like maybe this guy knows something i don't as i'm sure that's happened to everyone you see it's that sense of knowing you think well i don't know what this guy knows i just know that there's a calmness and therefore surely he must know something or she must know something and therefore now that's

at us at a human level allah say [Laughter] be calm allah knows it's all-knowing there's a plan hakeem a lies all wise stop rep what's happened has happened mother my mother whatever's been has gone

it's about moving forward this understanding of the verse i feel is not only empowering for us but it also explains what this verse is about that it's normal it's natural that prophets messengers they would have thought that if only my people embraced the message if only such and such happened if only this had happened it's natural but it's not to dwell on that see because dwelling on that

the shaytan could try to make people feel depressed he could try to derail the mission ahead and allah for the messengers certainly and for us too if we remember allah's message that allah renders this negativity null and void this whispering was of the shaytan

renders it void for us too if we remember allah has a plan it's okay this didn't happen but look at god's signs in creation around you look at the message in the quran it is as certain as certain can be that those who keep their eyes on the goal keep marching forward they achieve allah is all-knowing relax allah is all knowing a lie is all wise

even the things that have befallen you in the past may have aided to shape character and make you the person that you are today that is a beautiful way to read this verse surat al-hajj verse 52 okay and this is important i'm going to come back to this because this ties in with the whole discussion of the satanic verses but we'll come to that in just a moment let's take a look at what you guys

have been saying yep lonzetta all right how's the implant yeah people i've had to have a tooth implant bloody hell can you believe it check this out so i had this crown veneer vanilla no no i had this crown and it must have been just over a decade now so the other day i'm chewing gum and i'm thinking ah

what's that suction that was this it's at that point that morgan freeman his voice comes in because i'm like what's that suction oh let me carry on and do that again with the gum and that's when morgan freeman says indeed it was not a good idea to carry on so my crown falls out i'm like what the hell i've got this and so i put it back in place as one does

and i kind of clench on it bite on it push it down and it grips it and although arguably according to some of the chef it may be now impure it's a good thing we're not sure so now so it holds it in place and it it's fine there's no i'd had a root canal in the past so it wasn't painful so i've been okay um right i need to get to a dentist at some point so in the following day or day after i've arranged this emergency appointment i get there so it's been a day and a half i wake up the day of the appointment

it's there it's still in place everything and get ready get to the dentist and it's not there i thought that's bloody weird the dentist asked me he said did you did you eat it [Laughter] i said you know what i i honestly don't know i think i'm did i eat it i don't i had breakfast i mean i don't remember eating it don't remember i did brush my teeth maybe it fell out then i i don't remember spitting it out all i know it's not here now so oh well so anyway we arranged and

had so i've had the implant put in and so or the base you know the bolt or whatever it is they fitted that in the extraction one thing i definitely learned at the end of this was that um man dentistry is the business to get into [Laughter] and that is a business to make money yes i need to hook up with some dentists and and okay not hook up in that sense hook up i need to arrange and need to start a business man

this is this is the one i'm telling you that sounds like a cha oh and like that'll be the the cheapest option just to replace a tooth the cheapest option is one and a half grand i'm like [Music] i'm like yeah like which kidney should i just leave behind it's like i can live with one what the hell anyway let's move on shukran for asking allah bless you right

and that was kamar shahzad shahzad reminds me of a poem he says good he says ernie hey joshua epic

line right there rifi shukran allah bless you always see look this is what this is the love and gratitude may allah shower his grace upon you i mean all right i don't know how to read the name i want to join your zoom discussion what zoom discussion is that is that this one or is it my private sessions well if it's this one i

should share the link later on unless i cut it short i should share the invite if it's my one-to-one perspective sessions then they are on zoom but they are arranged via patreon so you go to patreon and you select i mean you select the one-to-one uh tier session and then you it guides you how to book and schedule your session they are then held on zoom and if you meant this this is not zoom this is stream yards so yeah so for this just hang in there

stadia seeing you makes me happy allah bless you look at that that is simply a reflection of the positivity the love that is within you see we our sentiments with we beam what is within us so glad you did i was reluctant feeling guilty to accept

the truth at first but and you made me realize that hadith is in quran wasn't making sense to me already you see the strategy is the methodology is that there is a distinction between hadith we embrace the sunnah wholeheartedly but a hadith may or may not be the sunnah hadith is simply a historical documentation and what somebody documents may not be

the sunnah they may be mistaken in what they say there may be mistakes in what people transmit from them there may be mistakes in maybe there was a practice maybe in certain cases but it was not the sunnah of the prophet so there are there are hadith so there's a huge overlap like think of it as a venn diagram there's a huge overlap of hadith and sunnah but there are hadith which are not sunnah there are certain sunnah that were never documented and a great display of that is the aamil of imam malik taught so and a great example is the tarawih

20 it is a sunnah but it's not really in in hadith really or clearly speaking it's not in hadith clearly so so these things are unless you're considering certain but there's there's many other examples that's the that's an example that imam abu hanifah gave but other examples that imam malik gives are from the uml of the practice of the people of madina the living tradition of islam so yeah

and that's a good way to understand that topic that it's not about saying we reject it's not that we reject we don't reject hadith we treat hadith with relativism as imam malik does in the mata so imam malik's book is the most authentic book of hadith on earth according to um at least several dawns of hadith by okay let's uh especially the malakia called the yard you will see

testimony that there is not a book on earth after the quran that is like now some people say that's because bukhari hadn't authored his book yet sure this is not a dis to bukhari but it's just to state that even imam buhari said that the most authentic chain on earth is imam alex golden chain so imam malik brings several hadith from his golden chain and then on certain occasions not always but on some occasions he will say here

he says in madina we don't act according to this style only imam ali could have done that see anybody else tried to do it they would have called him a deviant they would have called him but imam malik that's that's ultimate boss level see nobody could touch him in hadith you know there's a [Music] there's this imam buhari has a discussion on um what was his name

a narrator and his imam khan is not happy with him he says that you and he wants to criticize him and then he says he says if it wasn't for he says the fact that imam malik transmitted from this person i bow my head in awe and i'm unable to criticize this narrator despite wanting to but the fact that imam malik

accepted him legends legends in islam true leadership see those are the you see we leadership we must admire leadership and everybody follows someone if you are to choose an imam you know these are my thoughts okay you don't need to accept this but if you are to choose an imam who will guide you in a broad methodology don't look to people like ibn mia

or people like ibn okayimo josia that their scholars of islam came about 700 years ago but you will find yourself at times in great peril and we'll see because in this discussion of satanic verses you're going to see these names come up again in a very problematic way look to legends like imam malik they were in the time of the salaf they were they the the prophecy of the prophet that they

will be the alim of medina and imam malik teaches you hadith relativism you see when he's rejecting not rejecting when he's bringing the hadith he's not disrespecting see there's a big difference we don't disrespect anything we don't disrespect uh elements of this tradition of this legacy they carry a an honor a sanctity imam malik is bringing what is called the most sahih hadith that exists the

chain the most sahih chain that exists because what makes a hadith sahih the five conditions that ya that's the poem yeah so that you see these five conditions that and it's all to do with the chain so okay and there is as well uh

and this is something which anyway it's for another discussion because people then vary how they what is it is that talking about the chain or the mutton really should be the mutton as well which many do accept in principle but so here imam alex bringing this he's respecting it he's putting it in his book he's not disrespecting the tradition he's bringing it he's putting it in his own book

and with that he's explaining his methodology he's giving you an example but he's explaining indicatively he's bringing this hadith and saying in our city in the city we don't act according to this hadith by that he's teaching you that there will be several ahadith that come outside of this book as well

his book is the most authentic book by testimony of especially these chains by testimony of uh imam bukhari saying his book has other chains as well by the way it doesn't mean that he but he brings from this chain as well says in our in this city we don't act according to this do we disrespect it no no no no need for disrespect just understand that whatever's gone wrong maybe somebody imam malik was with

abusive yusuf tried to question the adhan of the people of medina because the adhan of the people of medina just had allahu akbar twice not four times that's the adhan of iraq which is common today so the adhan of medina and the malikia so in morocco and these places they only do allahu akbar twice so the so our use of and every yusuf did have a lot of tongue-in-cheek humor and sarcasm so he says

that the people of medina don't know the other imam malik's response to him is is epic he says he says maybe there is an adhan somewhere maybe the prophet went on a journey one day he did something and somebody picked it up and taught it maybe we weren't there you meanwhile maybe for one day one night something happened

he says but as to that which was announced in the streets of medina which the children learned from their fathers who taught their children which we here today announced five times a day in an unbroken succession then that is this adhan that you are hearing now and with that medina rests its case this is the practice of the people of madina it's a gold mine that imam malik taught

us so this is a methodology okay they say isharom [Laughter] that she plucked a rose petal and with such elegance crushed it in front of us

[Laughter] symbolically she explained to us that this is what we do to the hearts bars that's what's going to happen that so that danger enter your own risk it's one of those so right now so that's the the methodology so don't it's not about disdain or it's about understanding that the practice of medina the methodology that there will be hadith there will be sunnah there may be an overlap but there

not every hadith is not every sunnah was documented and not everything that was documented was a sunnah and people made mistakes as well along the way you accept that as well you know and i tell you imam malik taught you that as well see now you're going to say look at this there is a rawi that imam malik transmitted from abdul

later on he came to realize that this person used to make mistakes says teaching you see this is the incident but the methodology see this is the the actual thing but the indication he says i was misled by his excessive sujud and prayer in the masjid imam malik is telling you i made a

mistake now i made a mistake i was misled i documented something from him thinking it was a hadith but it wasn't i was misled by the fact that he was a good man see what is that teaching you don't think it's always out of malice sometimes it may be sometimes it's just people making mistakes he said he used to pray so much in the masjid when he said the prophet of allah said this i took note of it

he was wrong the prophet did not say that i was misled to document there's so much volumes can be written on how this is why i so favor them the method of the school of medina let's move on people what's this somebody um um medina is right i don't know what that's talking

about um uh give us a maliki um what's that give us a maliki study guide which book is best to understand the usual of the maliki i have some talks on youtube imam malikin or i think is it school of medina in the 21st century it's an old talk oh you know what i'll redo some of these i did a talk on imam malik recently i have some old talks i have some the old now probably about almost a decade old um

the ashma we are the audio courses um i have the foundations of islam in 20 lectures on youtube but there's other people i'm sure hamza youssef had a um the guy what was it what did he call it the the helpful guide he had a translation of that maliki text and he had a commentary on it as well i actually heard it when i first became maliki i don't know if it's i'm sure it must be around somewhere but we'll do more inshallah the reason

all right what's this [Music] is awesome it's by ibn the great maliki legend and of muslim spain who lived about approximately 900 years ago okay hi from australia sydney attila is that attila as in an arabic name or a tiller from attila the hun somebody said i miss super chats let me

check my apologies yeah i have to super chats are your love to me so i have to see that um uh azerati much love for the super sticker eb natashfin must we create our own purpose in life or is our purpose already predetermined

[Laughter] sir amazing question you see when you see um sh when you say that unless we create our purpose in life i think we as human beings

we intrinsically see purpose in things we find meanings we ascribe values we have a very teleological ontology an essence that sees a purpose in things and purpose doesn't have to be a grandiose it can be but it does so for example i'm going to help humanity's a huge but it doesn't have to be that and i feel one of the problems challenges let me say of this age

is this this this bedazzlemen this confusion of purpose in life because i was having this conversation with um a client a client on uh or a a session on patreon actually that and i've spoken of it as well on on other occasions and it's that look

purpose in life it doesn't have to it can be something amazing but it could be just understanding a role in life so in certain studies done in happiness researchers they study different parts of the world and they actually found that poor countries people were actually in devastating circumstances not absolutely on the verge of death not those sure

though but very impoverished societies people living just just about struggling with daily poverty but they but they had something to eat they had something so they weren't starving not that society but where there was a lack of opportunity and absolutely uh what we would consider abysmal circumstances and we would assume people there are very depressed but it turns out they weren't and so a lot of these studies that are cross-cultural they they found that hmm one of the fundamental thing was meaning

in life and this comes back to purpose so they found in some of the studies they looked at bangladesh actually and they looked at bangladesh peru thailand and countries like this which they at the time there was certain flooding and things like this in bangladesh but they found that so that people so in this certain case uh this case study this lady her meaning in life was that she was a mother and raising her children this gave her a sense

this was a a goal this was it wasn't just a goal it was a meaning to life that she took care of her husband that her husband went out and he did farming or whatever he did but she she did this she she made sure she took care of the home she had that she saw her children took care of them nourished them this was her her purpose in life she was a mother she was a wife

she was a uh like these things were the goal they were the destination they were the journey that i think we have become confused about and it's an interesting discussion actually this thing on uh wife for example because there was a clip i saw recent this was the i saw recently i think it was an australian clip some kind of breakfast show when some woman uh on this she she is saying

that she's describing her life and she says well uh i wake up in the morning so she's a housewife and she has some kids i can't remember maybe two and she says well look i wake up in the morning i make breakfast for my husband he wakes up i make a pack lunch for him you know i get the kids ready i send him off he comes back i you know i'm at home i do this i get dinner ready for it i wait for my husband when he comes home and and she was uh she was white australian um so and and she wasn't like some kind of cult or anything she seemed just as as

very normal as any normal uh person her her kind of counterpart the the the hosts are mocking her and they're saying well and they there's a man and a woman so some kind of like a breakfast show and they're saying well she makes food from what what is he disabled what why can't he cook his own food why can't he oh she wakes up and oh he's oh my god talk about going back 50 years talk about doing and it's actually very disparaging like and you think well you see why are they knocking these

values like if a person finds meaning why is it why were they are they trying to demonize a person's meaning and they say well oh you know this is she must be oppressed she clearly wasn't oppressed i mean she was as modern as modern could be she wasn't like just to be clear that's why i said she was white australian it wasn't a religious thing she wasn't she was very modern she was but she was just taking pride in this but we are in an age where people would say oh my god you do this for your husband like that's um

that's oppressive and many women shame women on this and that's a different thing to discuss on another day but it leads to a huge crisis because you you think well why does it because it makes people very self now now a person doing that becomes very self-conscious not to do it or they feel awkward now doing it and this comes back to daily it comes back to goals in life or purposes or your your life now people are being told that you these things are not enough meaning for you

you can't have a meaning like this this is in fact an oppression this is mundane this is you need to find meaning in grandiose things and that's great that's great sure you know if you can become a great artist if you can become somebody who conquers uh great obstacles if you can become somebody that sets up huge entrepreneurial companies and corporations you know more power to you but let's face it that's if not even going to be one percent of humanity or one percent at most that will be these massively successful uh

you know overcome these great things most people won't are not going to have that kind of talent they're not going to just one day become a singer or one day become an artist or one day become a writer or just set up a company and it becomes a success most people are not going to and what society has done it's shifted it's removed what people what people found meaning in everyday life which everybody had it's removed those brackets and almost demonized that oh you're a loser what would you find meaning in in just being a mother

or you find meaning in just doing this this that's ah yeah sure but but you need meaning in something else and the problem is many people will not be able to reach that elitist bracket of life there's nothing wrong i think that elitist if you can exceptional bracket that's awesome if you can do things like that but let's face it your common person is not going to be able to pull off ventures like that in life not with a huge success anyway maybe they will and it'll be okay but it won't be exceptionally extravagant so

thereby they feel a sense of failure in life and this is all it ties in with today's theme of what if or if only i'd done this if only but it's about no and sure empowering for the future but also finding meaning in your everyday thing somebody could find meaning in just reading poetry it's a great meaning great meaning in just observing the natural landscape you see so but when we say is there a purpose a goal in life the gold's purpose is a spectrum

it's all a purpose somebody could find a purpose in being a father being a husband in being a wife in being a mother and being a friend in being a human for humanity in being an observer true worship allah says swears by the one just observing so these are important points i think they can't really be overstated cool let's move on mufti if we're going to i see sarasota shukran much love for the super chat

salman rushdie should we not criticize some of the hadith and insult the prophet and insult the prophet you mean that insult the prophet sure we will take a look at that let's i don't miss any of the super chats no um angels don't have free will i don't know what that's talking about we live on a stationary plane sure we do

usually agree with it um even the same is that we also give the alternate explanation if it were to be authentic sure um um we'll we'll come to this we'll come to this hypnotamia did he accept he did accept the uh satanic verses and so did muhammad they accept them but they give a wheel and we'll come to that in just a moment

and this is why we have to be weary of idol worship and by idol here i don't mean statues i mean idol as in people and this is why you have um as well what's his name here and the great uh i mean the very popular selfie who says about uh i don't know if i have that he i mean i have it but i don't i don't think i've put it on these slides but you can just

google where he says that look these he says that these two made this mistake we accept this it was a mistake but he says look just put the this mystery he says it's not fair that you eclipse all the good they did by this mistake that these two he says great men made and the two men he's speaking about in the whole thing is um

and the mistake he's speaking about is the ayat shaytaniyah the satanic verses because they do accept them they accept the satanic verse but we're getting ahead of ourselves we'll come to that shallow waters i daydream my time through school i now find interest in areas like psychology physics and other sciences can i still educate myself in myself in these areas of course you can first of all shukran and much love for the super chat may allah bless you

but but and absolutely yes you can these things seriously today you can the best way to learn is by asking questions some you just youtube and google are enough to learn active through active curiosity so you ask a question that you're thinking you read you watch something you formulate more questions you ask you keep pursuing this and what is active learning through curiosity you learn so much

that's how i do a lot of my research most of my research in fact almost all of it is like that i seldom learn by buying a book and reading the book from a to z like that i i have done that in some occasions but but most of my learning has been through when it's this kind of real learning so when it's academic it's different because you've got to read course material and you've got to be tested on it and so let's say when i was doing a psychology degree but i would actually say maybe i don't know i

can't put a percentage on it but a huge amount of what i learned in psychology was not just from the degree it was through my active curiosity of me reading up journals reading up things typing in questions reading the latest research reading uh following certain things that always provide me you know the most latest research reading them chasing just pursuing them that's how i learn these things yeah obviously you do learn it as well if you do a degree on it but yeah don't feel restricted to that uh andhra taylor shukran allah bless you

i mean should we by default reject any hadith that portrays the prophet in a bad light jews and christians except that prophets are capable of immoral things there are many examples in the bible um i mean the way of the school of medina um and people may people may have their views that's them but my explanation to you is that anything that the criteria to the criteria to accept a hadith is the three which is in

the books of like ibn jose it's not even jose ibn or josie it's in nowhere's book you'll find it in suti's book you'll find ibn has you'll find many people speaking of the three the golden kind of criteria that it does not go against reason that it does not clash with the quran and it does not uproot and sorry it doesn't say the mankul is the quran and the living tradition and it does not

uproot an islamic principle so yes if you see and to answer that in um briefly and this won't be doing justice to the question but if you find a narration that puts the prophets in bad light then that narration either it could be that for example what does bad light here mean because that's a question so somebody could say well there's a hadith let's say i i don't know like let's say it says something and and you may think

it's somebody may think it's a it's just like some cultural thing and saying oh well uh the prophet ate this thing and we don't eat it or something like that now these kind of things you can seek guidance on if it's a certain thing that you think well i don't is this about but there's certain things which are clearly would just put profits in bad light like the prophet was some bad person or it's showing you something this example that the prophet became weak because people did magic on him

the prophet married a child um the prophet invented verses of the quran um the prophet was misled by satan to do certain things like to to succumb to his desires and do something these things are all nonsense okay the prophet forgot the quran the prophet these things these are made up by people they now some people may that that's a whole discussion i've covered it in the past why do false

narrations appear sometimes there are narrations by people that have come from israelite and then been passed off as hadith so they come by people from the greater jewish community now that's interesting so some people have argued that for example magic was done onto the prophet they said well um and and ramadisab raises this point as well that and in fact i tell you who raises this point um

a very popular brilliant scholar from pakistan and i absolutely salute maulana said you know may allah bless him he is a incredibly popular brave scholar from pakistan he had a huge following it is not easy to come forward with such a following and take such a stance

he came forward on this on the age of aisha you can find his videos on youtube reject now this shows now we see the love for the prophet see a lot of people say we love the prophet you don't find this insulting that somebody said that the prophet married a child

where is your love for the prophet salallahu this person said it this person is not above the prophet of allah and son he made i'm sure whichever insane you're choosing has made many mistakes in life i'm sure the people he's heard it from have made many mistakes in life you're telling me they've never forgotten anything in life they never miss stated something in life

you're prepared to take one man's word and throw the prophet under the bus his honor our love for the prophet salallahu alaihi sallam comes first whoever is if there's not even a split second to waiver on that they can be thrown under the bus the prophet salallahu it doesn't matter if they tell me they memorized a hundred thousand hadith

if they say something insulting about the prophet they are mistaken and if they doubt their mistake then that is this stubbornness that is the obstinate it is immaturity that they don't doubt themselves and they cast doubt on the prophet so our love for the prophet should be unwavering and it doesn't matter when these people whoever they are you know cut in a mankind we respect them we honor them

if they say something that they say with sincerity but it's disrespectful they are mistaken we don't need to prove it to them we don't need to explain it to them if they're not going to listen but they are wrong never the prophet that's that that's an unwavering and this has been often you know and i'll say this that look

we and i include myself that look this has been something that i've been saying i've been trying to say for so long and i accept that my delivery of it before i think i've been mistaken i've been wrong in the way i've delivered messages i think you know i i i accept like i maybe my delivery hindered the actual message from being accepted that i was trying to say and in that sense

that's a double wrong on me because maybe my delivery of saying things and people hearing them made them double down and as a consequence the honor of the prophet sallallahu alaihi is being questioned so so i accept like but that i've been wrong in the way i've maybe tried to get a message across to people maybe at times i've been to it's that the tone has been wrong the delivery has been wrong maybe i don't know but the point is that the message is this and it's wonderful honestly it's so

heartwarming to see people now like maulana said great like you immensely popular brilliant scholar in pakistan come forward and say that now you're having some the open these come forward and say that you got debates on youtube and the ulama are coming forward saying this there was somebody was telling a friend of mine that here in birmingham that he was uh masjid recently a couple just a month ago uh with a month or two ago with a very senior diobandi uh imam here like senior the first generation who said in his talk he said that

just for the sake of about the age of aisha he said just for the sake of imam buhari and this we have thrown the reputation of the prophet under the bus he said that we compromised the prophet's honor and he said that you know we need to think about what we're doing and i was just i was so like so glad to hear this and may allah warm the hearts of more and more people to this awakening to this kind of renaissance but um but it's big to see this now you have maulana sayid assad was saying as well he said look

that it's interesting that you have you had certain we know that there were certain um not always but there were some elements around medina some of the jewish settlements some of the people they never got on we know this and that's factual in the sense is documented not all but some some people he said it's interesting that you have this narration which is inside muslim that the prophet had was bewitched had magic done unto him by a jewish man also and nobody knows who this love is by the way and we'll discuss that

another day in detail a jewish man could do magic on the prophet and the prophet becomes so forgetful and he becomes clumsy and he becomes for six months some say three months some say six months some say six weeks but for days on end he can't remember things he has false memories he he's this is the prophet by the magic of an ordinary jew jewish person and this is not anti-semitism this is in the narration an ordinary jewish person could do this to the prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi okay what about moses

is raising this point he says what about moses the greatest of magicians in his time crumbled to their knees before him he says isn't this a coincidence i mean isn't it rather convenient that now you continue to say that and that's on you that this happened to the prophet it's so silly i mean it's it's like wow okay just i mean let alone that's a we'll discuss the whole magic thing another day but it's interesting

maulana said has this point where he's raising it i think hamdi subs raised a similar point as well saying that look isn't this oh that oh a jewish person does this to the prophet always you know isn't this rather like a convenient thing that's but yeah let's move on right now this is not to say please watch my those people who want to watch bukhari it's old maybe in time to come i'll renew something this is not an attack on imam buhari okay

a person should not mistake that that is either whoever's made that comment either you're you know this is just your inability to comprehend a discourse or it's just you're just being a troll in which case you'll be blocked so a person can put something in their book because it's passed to them it could also be that the person never even put it in their book somebody afterwards put it in the book how do you know what watch my uh bukhari gate i mean it's not impossible this so for example this

several narrations of sahih al-bukhari each differ with at least a few hundred narrations missing between them so at least let's say even if you say 100 narrations missing between them so how does that so how it's what's to say that a person didn't accident and it doesn't even mean it's malicious it could be militias it could be that these things did reach imam bukhari and he put them in there but they were fabricated before and when it reached them imam bukhari never told you that make your religion

based on his book he just said look whatever meets this criteria i'll put it in this book this book was not for the common person this book was not fik it was not the living tradition of islam it was simply a database for hadith that's what a hadith book is it's a database it's a data storage it's like buying it's like archives did you ever learn physics by going to an archive did you ever learn science or history by just reading archive records no you learned history then studied archives so picking up an archive collection

and saying ah imam bukhari put this in there therefore this archive must mean this was islam just shows that you know it just shows nothing but a an absolute inability to comprehend matters right here is let's see right okay this person has been blocked that's fine any person that's trolling will be blocked right let's move on with

um today's i want to discuss the satanic verses reason being is that there was an attack on salman rushdie several days ago in new york during a [Music] during a conference that he was speaking at i want to first of all very clearly in categorical terms condemn this attack

for the cowardice and the abomination that it is okay islam does not teach anybody to do things like this let's just be very clear this brings nothing but it just brings absolute negativity to islam nobody is doing islam any favors by harming salman rushdie or harming someone that speaks against islam okay you have to tackle ideas

and you have to speak and sure you can condemn you can speak who you want to about him and let's be let's be real salman rushdie was out of flavor he was long forgotten his book is incredibly old it was published in the late 80s i was in primary school when the satanic verses was published 1988 i believe and it's so out of flavor it's so irrelevant now not the topic can be still discussed but has him

salman rusty i would have doubted that most younger people have even heard of him so that it's from the muslim perspective or the islamosphere the older people sure they remember they've recalled the book but most younger people i i doubt they would have known his name even or let alone who he was or what the satanic verses were or stuff like this so just and he's now i believe 75 years old at this age bringing this kind of trying to attack him

decades and decades after he's become he's just fallen into oblivion in a such a way that nothing does nothing but demonizes islam now and gives him the the light the limelight once again that he's now being uh um nominated for you know global awards once again and his name is being put forward for um unprecedented awards that he never achieved during his lifespan

i i i don't see what this person um what was his name matar something hadi matar and it's very clear to me this is very clear to me that this person hadi matar must be suffering from mental illness it's clearly mental health and i hope that that is recognized for the mental health it is just as when these other crazy people in the united states go and shoot up cinema halls and they go and shoot secondary schools and kill all these people

and he and and racist bigots that do this and they make videos saying we're doing this for the cause for the the white cause and all of this are clearly deemed oh they're just mental health because let's face it most of these people are mental health cases but and i accept that that they are most of these people are alway most of these people are mental health cases including the muslim ones it doesn't just change when they're muslim that oh the muslims are not mental health those people are nut cases too they need to be sectioned

so it's not oh when they're muslim oh no now it's legitimate it's the guy knew what he's doing and every no these people are equally nut cases they're clearly mentally uh that they they have mental instability they have some severe mental health problems so i just want to make that clear in condemning that attack okay

um right so all right now that said moving forward following this attack the satanic verses and salman rushdie its author have been now brought back into the limelight many people are discussing him people have been googling he's become one of the most googled in the last uh two weeks he has become one of the most googled entities people are trying to find out what it what was he all about what are all these

things so let's discuss him let's assess let's evaluate the book the context the history let's psychoanalyze as well what is this person's story so i did a bit of research and i have to say uh salman rushdie right i find this person's character and personality so abhorrent and just so full of a kind of

like a negative he gives off such a negative vibe an aura was like this is just this is my i don't know if there's people who just if you see them you find this ah like like just negative energy about them and i really feel that with him just looking at him i sense this unease just looking at him honestly and

and that seldom happens to me um not so it's not a common thing to to see you know just to find some kind such strong negativity sense it from certain people and i sense that from salman rushdie um this the i don't know it's one of those things that's inexplicable i guess um now some people say is it about carrying trauma no not that negativity i almost

sense a malice like i look at that face and i don't sense like goodness imagine i never knew who he was and you showed me his picture and there's something you know in the hadith the prophet sallam in this hadith where he said that you find ahead in certain faces

and and i guess it's count it's kind of adverse thing is true as well that you sense i sense just just something very unsettling about him so me researching him this last week or so was was with a heavy heart shall i say because there's very few people i find as unsettling as as him but i've been researching him because i thought well since i was going to speak on him that let's make it as fair as possible um i'm serious wallahi i don't know what the devil would look like but i wouldn't

there's just something so devilish and satanic about his face it god honestly but let's speak a bit about him so he was born as you could see in june 1947 in bombay under the british raj so where he was born it was still under british rule and it was in the following months in august that year that india and pakistan were subsequently to receive independence but when he was born he it was still under the british raj and he's there's something

important to learn about salman rushdie is he was born into privilege his family were quite privileged his father was not your common kind of person his father his name was anis ahmad was very privileged and came they were they came from money and status his father anis uh traveled to to the uk he studied law at cambridge he was a lawyer in that time of the british raj uh for the british empire

later his his dad fell into some issues with um his dad fell into some um issues with the authorities over fraud and they prosecuted him and they he was kind of shamed and he left uh england and went back to india and from lawyer turned into a very successful businessman and they were already very connected i mean you're talking in the british raj time where people were highly um impoverished they he came from a family of wealth and he was a muslim and used kashmiri

ethnically but living in bombay now known as mumbai and salman his son his dad adopted the name this is interesting his dad adopted the name rusty that that wasn't his name rusty was in light of his admiration for ibn rust he was a fan of avaros of the great maliki legend from muslim spain this was his father so he adopts the name rusty his actual name was anis ahmad and so he adopts the name atleast ahmad

rusty after ibn with the being for nisba and this is where salman rushdie is given the name now salman grows up very privileged he he goes to he studies in a private school english school in bombay he then travels as a young boy to england he comes to rugby uh worcestershire sorry workshop and he he studies at a boys boarding school he lives there he always had this thing you see now the whole family had this this

from uh and many people had it this inferiority complex to the ingress you know the the ruling white class um and they were very much a part of those upper class elite circles so salman rushdie always looked up to the kind of the the gora class and always wanted to be like them and he actually writes how he was very um it was to his stubborn dismay that he found some some things to be true about the gory that he

never wanted to believe so he mentions that he was told and even his mother who was a teacher and obviously had married into that class as well but she wasn't as convinced of the of the gora elite kind of british raj thing as many of the of this society that upper society was so she had told him that you know these gory they're not actually so clean and uh and she had told him this that they don't even wash their behinds when they go to the toilet and she mentioned he mentions this

himself by the way at a later stage in life um she mentioned to him and they don't they're so dirty this is what she had said kind of trying to put him off because he was so obsessed with the gori that she said you know they use each other's bath water and he mentions this in an interview much later in life and he says that i was these people are just envious of the glory you know get out of here that's not true and he mentions that when he went when he came to the uk as a young boy and boarding school he

came to learn that they only used tissue paper see because in india it's common this lota to have a lot of and wash your behind and it's not just muslims like people in india do it muslims do it because the faith teaches us that we must wash after going to the toilet but in india even hindus will wash they take the lota and you know they go out to the fields even seek everybody in india it's common so in india he didn't believe it because it was the common thing there for indians that everybody just used that it was in all toilets was always there when he came to england and in rugby he

was in a boarding school he realized that they only used toilet paper and then he realized that because in the boarding school they had to bathe that they bathed in each other's they shared the bath water so he in later years admits to this being quite a shock for him an unpleasant shock because of how he really holds even though he still doesn't he's he's kind of um half-heartedly admitting because of how much he held them in high esteem so uh so so they feel that

these people they are the ultimate standard gori especially the british raj and the british rather so so he comes here he studies he goes to college here he then goes to cambridge and does his degree in history see what's interesting is salman khan khan salman rushdie

he has a very difficult relationship with his father he never got on with his dad and this is important because i feel it shaped the dynamic for his life you see and part of the reason is that later while salman rushdie is here in the uk in boarding school when he reaches college in the 60s now his father who is very successful see his father

was not uh i'm not aware that his father was an atheist as far as whatever i researched his father may have been critical of the mullah class and things and not liked the murphys but he embraced his muslimness maybe he wasn't religious as in praying and stuff but he embraced that he took pride in his own kind of rational islam this is why he loved ibn rushdie named himself after ibn roosh his father started to become more conscious of his muslim identity later in life because in the 60s

whilst salman rushdie is in the uk studying his father moves from bombay to karachi in pakistan so he abandons india and moves to pakistan this always puzzled salman rusty he writes later in life that i never like this was something he could never understand why his dad moved to pakistan like why now because partition was in 1947.

why move in the 60s and it was because his father was becoming more conscious of a kind of and by muslim not to be confused with uh like a practicing islamic so it doesn't mean he became like a maulana but he started to realize that what is the status of a muslim in india now surrounded by a majority hindu uh major populace so he moves this unsettled salman rushdie quite a lot and

he never got on with his dad and he had this bitter now it's interesting that you will see as freud explains that the authority of the father comes second to what the authority of god because god often in many of these faiths is almost portrayed as an authoritarian father figure very clearly in christianity and although in islam we don't call allah the father but some people they present this

this not as a not as if they don't say father but this this this understanding of god that he is like a strict father almost as an as a kind of analogy that he loves his child but he will beat the child and it's interesting that in um freud's uh illusion of a future he explains that he tries to explain it backwards in saying god is actually just the projection of the father figure onto the sky

so that's how freud explains why people believe you know this whole understanding of god is people just having the image of a father and then projecting it onto the on to the heavens and that is then god so you see this this this this kind of strife this gulf this gap unsettling gap and very problematic uh gulf between salman rusty and his dad anis rusty and muslimness being an issue and his father moving

to pakistan which was never salman rushdie never was happy with that when he goes back to india later in life he goes back to india he doesn't want to go back to pakistan he doesn't really want that and he never felt that this and he feels that this muslimy thing is ah just backwards and he hates his dad for it and by extension hates the faith now this is an important point in understanding his mentality and why he always till today has this very strong being his bonnet so to speak and it's very

constantly like uh has to make a point in hating on islam because it's a it's like a uh anchored in his childhood and it was something that he never truly resolved because you'll have atheists who find they don't believe in religion they may believe religion is a farce they may believe it's all stupid they may believe all these things about religion but they're very secure in themselves they don't need to be making a song and don't need to on every event be bring

it's sure to them people believe in religion maybe they think religion is dumb and stupid and nonsensical take it but they're very calm about it they have a serenity to them a calmness you'll find some atheists like that salman rushdie now you can check almost i must have watched several of his interviews um you know my own with with a heavy heart i must say always disturbed he's very like he has this spitefulness towards islam

as in all of his lectures in all of his sorry interviews and and he has that and you can see it in child in one of his interviews he claims that he resolved his issue with his dad in later life i think he may not have resolved it to the extent he liked to have resolved it if he resolved it at all i think this may just also be a kind of wishful back projection uh that he kind of feels as in to bring some peace to himself claims he resolved it

i think the truth allahu alam speculation may be that this is he never actually resolved anything and he then plays this back into his mind because you see the characters in his books with this issue even in the satanic verses uh the character saladin and we'll come to that and his issue with his father and although in the end he tries to find some reconciliation where his father is and i'll come to that way he's he's kind of shaving his father for once and he's never had this comfort of even being able to touch his father's face and he's touching it time and time again

as as the character saladin uh shaves his father and finds some kind of conciliatory peace in that and a truce but the truth is that are they or is it just what he's feeling and i think this is what's happened with salman rushdie he was the only boy in his family so he has three sisters so you can imagine from that age the uh especially back then the image and men and they what they expect from their sons and he's only got one son and let's face it

from his father being a a bright intellectual who understood philosophy and inspired by these great philosophers and ibn arush then a talented lawyer from cambridge who turns into a thriving businessman coming from this elite thing who has a son who's just doing history at cambridge what a disappointment absolutely disappointing so you can see this dynamic between the father and son appears to have characterized salman rushdie's entire life so

it's it's fascinating to to see that from a psychoanalysis perspective and i thought i'd mention that the rest is i mean we know a lot about him look he he has written several books as salman rusty has and uh he had a prize for his midnight's children which is most of his books speak about things like partition between pakistan india the struggle because one of the things that you find in salman rushdie's life is look as a child he always wanted to be this yet this inferiority complex for the gauri the british raj the british the ingredients

he comes here and he's not truly one of them the brown kid you know he's the oh from india and he tries to he speaks well he's very very eloquent he's very articulate he tries to copy them he tries to do everything tries to shed his indian-ness almost but whilst he's shedding his indian nurse his dad leaves india to become a pakistani

this child who then resents his father has no anchorage of secure identity is he an indian is he a pakistani is he a muslim is he british this deeply troubles him right throughout his life so most of his books are him putting this into characters having identity issues and struggling which is also one of the themes of his book the satanic verses so he does get his book midnight's children has been praised by many people and it's it received that was before

satanic verses and he had an award for it he did go into once he published the satanic verses went into hiding for 10 years and lived by the alias joseph anton and we know the fatwa of aya to lahomaini against him for his death and there had been several attacks uh or there had been a a failed assassination attempt on his life but his his book satanic verses which is the center of our attention right now um very briefly i won't take too much time the book what is it about okay

so the book which has 546 pages and it has these key characters gibril fanishtha saladin jamcha pamela lovelace reika you got mohand aisha the last two are the point of concern okay but the story to just to bring you guys up to speed rapidly it's a novel okay and the story is about these two key characters one is called gibril farishta and the other is saladin

now salman rushdie sometimes he tried to play off that oh i wasn't even speaking about islam and i don't know why these people uh he clearly knew what he's doing in other more especially later interviews he acknowledges of course it's about islam i have the right to insult islam i have the right to he feels uh do these things so in several in fact there's several interviews of his on youtube where he's asked by non-muslims by indians that look but sure criticize and this is an important point here i want to say

every person i i firmly believe they have the right to criticize if they don't believe in something they have the right to criticize it even if it offends but there is a difference between just criticizing and insulting now sometimes like a venn diagram sometimes there may be an overlap but not always like if i just say to you if i say to someone oh your mums are this and this that's just insulting them i say oh i'm criticizing him no

that's insulting so you see people conflate freedom of speech so in one of his things he's asked that look but you're insulting isn't there isn't there a point about showing some respect and he says why should i show respect why he says you're trying to border freedom so the person says but in india there's a law the blasphemy law and it's about showing it's hate speech is hate speech not a thing so in that lecture on youtube he says that uk and i think i'm pretty sure he's misinformed on this but he says the uk restricts hate speech to things like racism

and he says america doesn't even do that and i agree with america so in that lecture he's saying that even racism isn't really a thing which i find you know it just goes to show that if if there's no you know you know like the poem says not my and i mean it's it's attributed it's a hadith as well

that if there's no sense of at all that look so there's nothing so i mean would you and this is an interesting question so what if somebody spoke of the glory of pedophilia is that is that something that is is not problematic if somebody wrote a book glorifying uh pedophilia that they're having sexual

relationships with little children and toddlers and infants is that not an abomination it's not like this and if somebody starts writing a blog about this and promoting and saying that this is is this not of concern there are there are there will always be parameters it doesn't matter and him saying this i my american

the viewers can correct this he claims in the thing that america does not have um i'm sure that's wrong he claims that under freedom under freedom of expression in america you can make openly racist remarks and say like for example all black people are like this or people such and such people are dumb or all such and such people are he says that that's allowed in the united states he's saying in a particular conference to all these journalists and stuff so it had me a bit baffled because i'm sure that's not the case but in the uk clearly that's not the case you can't do things like that so

this is where this person he's making a point about insulting he says i have the right to insult because it's freedom of speech and and that's the difference between freedom to criticize and freedom of speech because i'm free to sorry freedom to insult they're two very different things that they may be an overlap but they're different things when you peripheralize them so yeah so this is a good point that look somebody said um uh that yeah you can't say things about

lgbt you can't say things about the jewish community you can't it's anti-semitism it's you know people i'm sure they get into trouble for that even in america i'm sure they do but um so and and isn't just but that's it look let's not digress here so this is salman rushdie with his point of the satanic verses so he has this story where which is a novel about these two main characters one of them is and he gives them the name jibril farishta one of them now this is him clearly knowing look furista

is not a name it means angel everybody knows that jibril come on it's like saying here's the protagonist of my story the archangel gabriel oh no but i'm just using this as a name why do you think i'm referring to the archangel gabriel it's like yeah but first of all frista is not a name in urdu nobody names their child childhood just means angel and jibril is jibril so jibril farishta in his story is a bollywood actor who plays all these deities and plays

these kind of characters hindu deities and he's very famous then he gets ill and he gets some kind of illness where he excretes blood from his penis and anus and does all these really weird stuff i don't know what's going on in salman rushdie's you know twisted mind but he is is he's obsessed with this woman reika he's having an affair but then you know she's having an affair with somebody else he's now depressed anyway he wants to give up india and move to to the uk uh and he uses a different name for the

for the uk but uh he spells london as or something he calls it like he gives it this play on names like london and he plays on the name but they want to come to london so okay he's on a plane with this other guy saladin jamcha who's also another unfulfilled individual and this plane crashes and the plane crashes and miraculously these two get saved but as they get saved uh gibril farishta all of a sudden develops angelic-like qualities he becomes like a he has these wings he becomes like this kind of angel uh person and

and saladin uh champion develops horns like a goat and he develops these devilish character characteristics and then he they come to the uk except uh jibril ferris star is kind of doing his business they both miraculously survive saladin is picked up by the authorities because he looks weird now here he's bringing in the um immigrant perspective because he looks weird he gets picked up by the authorities the authorities say they don't know who he is what's his story how did he get here they can't believe his they believe there's something wrong with him they're trying to prosecute him they was in the they're putting him through all

this kind of turmoil he's hoping that gabriel farishta will come and vouch for him who he doesn't now so okay the story is about these two characters now during this let's the rest of it is a lot of it is kind of you know waffling on and he has certain interesting terms what happens is this gibril farishtha has a kind of schizophrenia where he starts to believe that he is maybe there's something special about him and he is an angel maybe or not if not an angel he's somebody special god gifted god's chosen person now this jibril

back in foreign now it's a bit vague how he's explaining this whether he goes back in time some or whether it's he's doing it as a vision but it's he seems to just shift to this other dimension in this dimension now this is where the satanic verses come in jabril farishta who is this character in his novel ends up on this mountain where he finds the individual mohammed muhammad is muhammad that's why he's using the prophet but he's changing the name to mohammed

so he finds this person on this mount in this mount in this cave where this angelic or this person who's in the novel who saved was a former bollywood character developed wings and can fly off and either time travel or end up in this other dimension somehow or is it a vision you know however it is but he ends up there with in a different epoch but with this mohand who's in this cave and he now in his schizophrenia jibril farishta utters these words to him

mohammed thinks it's revelation and sincerely accepts it he goes back to his people preaches it his people embrace the message gibril farishta has several other kind of dimension trips where he sees other things there's something going on in london and he has several dimension trips with this character aisha who's a different character in different times one time there's this character in london aisha uh another point this jibril phrase that tries to go back to mohammed to tell him that actually what i told you was false

it was just my schizophrenia but when he goes there he finds that the people of my house have actually embraced his message and now muhammad is a powerful person and he's got these armies and you can't resist so they try to resist and they realize that mahound is coming to attack them so some of them hide in a brothel in a brothel there are these 12 prostitutes who happen to have the names which correspond with the names of the wives of the prophet now this is not look this is not academic and the and the biggest prostitute or the most popular prostitute in that brothel her name is

aisha and aisha then mohammed comes and invades and aisha then marries him and she becomes the most beloved of mahan's wife and she was the most popular prostitute and he uses the word who who from that brothel now you know this is utterly disgusting everything there's nothing academic about oh i want to critique a religion about this

now what he does put in there is he puts in the that oh um he does put in there that oh this satanic verses and he has this little play on that um he has this play that there's some narrations and we'll come to them in a moment where some muslims said that the prophet was compromised his message or the message of the prophet was compromised because gibril got it wrong or because

however they want to interpret it but that the prophet got part of the message wrong like it wasn't actually real but people accepted it these were known as the satanic verses because they didn't come from jibril they came from satan to the prophet either to the prophet or to the people imagining that they came from the prophet so these satanic verses did impact the people so similarly in his story this gibril first is not an angelic entity he's actually somebody with

almost schizophrenia and he's he can be very messed up but mohammed thinks he's an angel and therefore takes the message and then spreads it and people accept it now when gabriel farista realizes in his novel that actually i was messed up and delusional when i told you that it's too late so he's anchoring this part of the of his dimension trip or vision or whatever and his impact on muhammad on the satanic verses and he mentions them in his book this is why he calls it the satanic verses

now true this is only i think about 20 pages of the book this part to do with muhammad but it's enough to show the kind of vitriolic uh spiteful um venom that salman rushdie spews towards islam and the unimaginable harm that it does to muslims because look there is nothing and the rest of the story sure it is about just this saladin champion and this jibril first and right through to the end

uh and they kind of other trips and the other vision so at one point you really frishtai is picturing the imam the promised imam and it's this cult is this delusional guy who's fighting against this woman called aisha once again a bit of a play on maybe the shia kind of thing going on there but he's using it and how the imam has all this security around him maybe that's he's nesting in maybe this that kind of maybe not but it seems to reflect a bit of that but the point is that okay he says but most of the book is a novel i mean the book is a novel sorry but most of it is just about these two characters

sure but look he knows what he's doing and there's nothing about criticizing a religion in that it's just about insulting a religion it's just about being rude and offensive because you believe you have the right to just be rude it's like i go out and i believe i have the right to just say you if you you your mom's like this you you're like this why because i believe i have the right to speak it's my right to speak no but no human society operates like that the book is just pure vile and to say

that in this brothel each of these 12 women who have the names corresponding to the wives of the prophet and then the biggest amongst them to say that and then becomes the wife of the prophet and it's yes do you see what i mean the sheer kind of hatred that this man has it's absolutely it just comes forth and you can see it from him and there's nothing this book does nothing it doesn't

argue against islam it doesn't bring a point it's not about look he he makes a point in one of his conferences he says if we're not allowed to criticize religion then we where would we be sure because he's saying that look people criticized religion and therefore they had reformations sure you've got you know you've got several reformations have taken place he speaks of in one of his conferences about copernicus okay about martin luther about the you know not martin protestants and the whole thing see sure

where is your critique of islam what that you're just gonna say that old the prophet was this uh this person who was delusional and he you're gonna call his wife the biggest prostitute that there was and you're going to say that and then you're going to say it sometimes oh no i'm talking about the prophet what made you think i'm talking about the prophet oh and then later on he's very clear in his later interviews oh i was talking about the prophet i have the right to talk about him so now this is the so this goes to show that

these things are i just want to explain give a kind of an overview of the story and and anchor in in the kind of evaluation the mental evaluation of this individual who struggled all his life with identity that where does he belong you know coming from privilege coming from money his family were from an elite upper class in india his his dad was a successful lawyer from cambridge in the time the british raj you know coming from that but his dad still embracing his muslimness

his dad's disappointment in him which baffled him he resented his father for his dad moving to pakistan because of muslims him hating this him going back to india but not really fully fitting in where do you fit in him wanting to be british english but back then see now okay there's a lot more cultural but back then you see you you're still brown it doesn't matter it's very articulate but you're still brown and he always resents imran khan

and imran khan refused to attend the conference that he was at any place imran khan had this policy that i refused to sit at any table that he said so this is a an interview of salman rushdie on not an interview he speaks at one of his conference really go you could see how hurt he is so he is about imran khan he goes oh say oh you know when he used to be a playboy when he used to be he could see the resentment coming up now imran khan clearly had a lot more acceptance in the uk uh just because of how good looking he was i mean let's face it han's an absolute stunt so that's different this

michaela i mean you know i say which are god forbid yeah right so you got this this guy who's i mean just and you've got so a lot of these things led to his complex his issues and and then obviously i'm sure he wasn't happy about certain things muslims did as well that added to it but him thinking i this is my personal opinion i feel that he never you know with the book satanic verses

i think he never expected it to get the reaction he got and he never even wrote it for that kind of diaspora the muslim to cotton onto it i feel he longed for a fame because his family were from this elite privileged class and he wanted the kind of notoriety and he did get a book award for his midnight's children because he spoke all about the the the partition and how separation and identity and not knowing where you belong and the i think his book satanic verses was

firstly first and foremost a big middle finger to his own dad it was to his father and then by extension to that kind of maybe that mullah class that he was fed up with in india because remember in india he's still always reminded his name is still muslim salman rushdie and even if you know you always still at some point a muslim and this is what so i think his first thing was it was almost it was this middle thing this is

what i feel to his father first and foremost who he was really upset with and and then upset that he was upset with him because to him the reason one of the reason obviously it's more that you see one of the reasons his father was upset with him is because he wanted to be this this he was doing a degree in history he wanted to be this leftist culture kind of right anti people on the right you know it's all about being new and all for freedoms and but in his interview he says this in his recent interviews that you can watch

that he's gutted that the left now is hates people who criticize religion and he says this isn't how it used to be or watched this interview you know it used to be people on the right the pope criticized me for criticizing islam now people on the left they say oh why are you criticizing islam leave them alone and he's like what's wrong with these people and he's so [Laughter] because he felt his dad saw that as a waste being on the left and he stood up for he did his degree in history which is a waste let's be honest for people from his dad's perspective that you're a businessman

i've sent you to cambridge spent a lot of money on you and you're studying history what on earth are you gonna do with that oh i'm gonna write books so his dad saw him as a huge disappointment and he's stood at it for this i'm championing this leftist cause and a part of this was a big fu to one to his dad and then to the right of religion which had clearly been an issue for him but as time moves forward it had this huge reaction which he wasn't expecting this hateful reaction so people start boycotting him people

start don't what even if it's maybe many people don't have an issue with him but they don't want to share a stage with him because they don't want that negativity even non-muslims like in india many literary people who have a muslim audience as well i'm thinking well i'm gonna you know jeopardize my audience because this guy maybe they haven't got an issue with his book but they feel so he sees all of this and as time progresses the left which he thought he was championing is anti-him because they feel he's a bigot like why are you attacking muslims so it's it's really left this guy in quite a pickle but yeah so that's um

my psychoanalysis of him a person who really yes he's reached this stage of life and still if you watch his interviews even in his 70s so resentful still i mean but then again you know you look at him and you can sense almost a malice an energy of unsettling ah like i mean i mean you don't even know where the forehead begins and

i mean now i get why he hated muslims because it's like bechara didn't know where to do wudu from he's like at what point do i start doing masa of the head is it like from here [Laughter] do i start washing the face from

of these muslims was out in his time [Laughter] just think of the tranquility you would have brought to his heart he never know he might have been like uh yeah you know finally i've had peace no let's let's focus people let's focus right so now honestly i i

but that you know that said seriously i this person that attacked him clearly had mental health issues but all he did was just gave him limelight this person didn't really deserve that he deserved a hair transplant you know if salman rushdie had had reached out to me and said look listen you know i've struggled here with this hairline that i don't know where to draw the line because of this non-boundary i've

lost all boundaries because of this the lines being blurred i've all values have blurred the lines in my life i would have said yeah you know what send this bachara to turkey istanbul i would cover his transplant costs just to help him out you know maybe you know you help him skin allah gives you allah he would have seen it's all about love

[Laughter] it was uh you know let's move on let's move on uh let's not get distracted by uh by the by the runway i wanted to actually discuss the satanic verses themselves so before that let's just move to some questions um right what's

uh aptly rational choice theory to religion instead of having to state back islam let's just just let all flourish let every religion compete like sure look i'm not saying people have the right to shove religion down your throat they don't and i have no qualms i feel that people who do not people have the right to criticize things if you don't believe in something you have the right to criticize criticize it you have the right to show where it doesn't make sense but there's a difference between just being rude and insulting and between

being analytically critical about something because that has a an objective to it you see when i criticize something when i critique something when i satirize something and i show the points people can see oh yeah that makes sense when i just insult something just call their mama this uh call the wife for this call them this this is just this is just dumb it's petty it's like there's no end game to that except just like a little child i'm just

trying to get hurt you i'm trying to but it's not you know there's no human compassion about that so yeah let's move on to um let's move on to and this was the thing you know he he always wanted to live in the uk but it became an issue he had to go undercover he had to as he had the alias um joseph

i mean just look at that beautiful face right there does that but does that look like a jersey from all people yeah beauty is in the eye of the beholder but he has had several marriages four marriages something beauty is in the eye of the beholder also is the bank balance

see if when looks fail bank balance makes up for it so it's not difficult to you know they say well he's had he also one of his recent marriages was a model from from india but she aptly moved on as you can see and went to a status that she felt was clearly more befitting but in the process

of bank balance this way divorce settlements so this is what happens you see these things were enough really you know for this person and i tell you something about being bitter in life it never ends well because you know they a i um i believe is actually nelson mandela's quote where he said harbouring bitterness against people or someone or it's like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die

[Laughter] but it's gonna be within you not in them you know this as the arabic poet says that in another poem that is it

no but he gives the example of that they say it's like fire or that it consumes itself if it has nothing else to consume and the poet said that allah has kind of set a justice in envy and this kind of spitefulness that it begins with the person who harbors it and it kills them as in it's the end of them because they just have this bitterness that eats them up from within seriously honest there's a point here that i want to say that may allah

grant a shifa to people that carry this venom inside them a bitterness and may allah heal their hearts seriously let's make the because there's many people and sometimes they maybe they felt they've been wronged for some reason but um yeah may allah heal these wounding hurt hearts because they just carry that hatred throughout their lives and they hurt so many people along the way sometimes people very close to them their own children their own spouses

their own uh friends their own family people at large society right let's move on i mean uh is there a super chat uh no i answered that yeah no i answered that let's move on to the actual satanic verses and um what were they so what are the satanic verses

in arabic so right let's just bring this up the satanic verses so let me give you the incident and then play it back to you okay now we can go by certain statements okay in makkah

in relatively early islam relatively as in a few years had been the prophet is preaching the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam recites now let me just bring that up for you here it is beautiful surah after quran very it just has such an effect on you it's words it's style the kind of

rhythm that it brings with it it's very it's undeniably formidable so the prophet is right reciting surah najim that allah takes an oath by the stars or the star as it settles that your companion your person the prophet allah is not misguided he hasn't missed the mark or lost his

track he does not speak out of some desire to get something or from his desires it is but revelation revealed unto him

the prophet is reciting this aloud he reaches the verses as you can see verse 19. do you not see these three goddesses allah calls out three goddesses as in specifies them

amongst the many they were popular deities that the pagans of makkah were worshipping there were others as well hubble and many others but these three goddesses they're all female allat al-manatha okay now some people and you can see the other um if you google you can find the correlates like some people say this rosa might have been the corolla of a particular god is it ishtar

or is it these or is it that whatever uh the point is these were three popular goddesses okay uh alert um [Music] i think manat was for good fortune and was for uh military strength and alert i think may have been for um bringing good luck so these were like uh titans like demigods so and goddesses so allah mentions the name

as you can see in verse 19. now the prophet is reciting this the people fall into sujud they go into such that this incident is documented it is in bukhari it is in muslim it's in other books as well in other books now it doesn't say what what happened it just says that they went into sujood when these things were right now people speculated why did they do that because the pagans did weren't accepting some people said

that it could be that they were overwhelmed by the or of the surah could have been but then they didn't do this for other cases some people say that it could have been that um [Music] they saw it that that this was that in the moment they saw the validity of the message of islam i'm not so sure really that makes that that stands its way another reason could have been some ulama said

that they did this as a respect to the names of their gods that's very possible that because they saw the muslims obviously they used to prostrate as well they understood what prostrating was when allah says [Music]

do you see these that they prostrated because the name of their god is being mentioned and to glorify their gods it's possible that actually makes quite a bit of sense now this incident up to there is documented now some people claim that when these people were asked why did you prostrate

they said that the prophet glorified our gods so we prostrate now here some people added some narrations so they said that what how is it that the prophet prostrate uh glorified your god so they say that the prophet read this what you can see on the screen there is not a verse of the quran they some people say so some allegedly alleged this is all false by the way but this is that that allegedly said that the prophet said

these are lofty elevated entities titans huge tycoons huge entities and indeed the intercession will be sought on the day of judgment now this is the alleged story that the prophet said this he praised the deities and said

this is the satanic verses why the satanic verses this then finds its way into this finds its way into islamic transmission people start saying there's narrations about this once again you get certain common names they start saying yeah there's narrations oh look this was said these people said the prophet said this so okay how could the prophet have said this some people very

sad that oh the prophet said this because he really wanted to he wanted his people to come on board that much that he felt what if i compromised a little bit and just praised them once and he did it and it worked and then later on he realized i made a i should never have praised their gods

and they said this is apparently what this verse of the quran is talking about the verse we covered today that this verse right what's going on here that of surah hajj verse 52 that we did not send a prophet before you except that when he desired something shaytan threw onto his desire

like he added to it so allah rendered it in valid so allah then corrected the quran so this is what some people said they said well now some people then said oh nobody right yeah that's an issue so maybe what happened was the prophet was reciting surah najam he reached this point

and went quiet and the shaytan spoke this in a voice people hearing thought that's the prophet's voice and therefore they said the prophet praised our gods we've got no problem with it all of this is ridiculously absurd and utterly stupid utterly because look first of all let's let's just take a look at this and i'll show you that and i'll show you i'll bring up some of

these things in a moment first of all this verse is not speaking about anything to do with that okay this verse suratul hajj right is in the surah of hajj which is an issue of medina the surah of hajj is to do with madina somebody could say well this verse came before but no but that surah is from medina to start off with secondly let's okay let's see this hypothesis what's the hypothesis so the hypothesis is that the prophet

first hypothesis the prophet was so keen on his people embracing islam that he decided to praise their gods well then all he had to do was what they were saying it is well known that the early makkans had said to the prophet look just compromise a tiny bit we will give you you know the famous incident that we will give you the moon and the sun in your hands and you can marry old we'll give you all this world just tone it down a little bit they

said that look we have no problem with allah just accommodate slightly for our gods this was the thing this is why they were persecuting the muslims so if the profit was okay to do that what was so what was going on then to start off with secondly let's just take a look at what is being said

which statues carved out a stone what do the other sur ayat of makkah say that these statues that do they uh la tante they don't speak they're dumb they're blind they don't these are just stone carvings these are such lofty beings that they that these that these stone carvings are such lofty beings that on the day of judgement wow we can't wait for these to help you out

ridiculously absurd this is why many of the ulama of islam oh sorry especially the malikiah very clearly made it very clear that look all of these things are utterly absurd they have no standing the is nerds are utterly let me just bring this so you can see there a wakaribun arabi the maliki legend from muslim spain very clearly says

people who had issues with islam he says that they just crept them in and people transmitted them now somebody could say look why did they transmit them then and this is something that uh mentions of what cadillac mentions later on people say tabari mentions them in his tafsir he does tabari mentions them with this verse that we use but read

on mentions them brings all of them and says at the end these are utterly battle utterly battle he says that these are utterly battle and they're false so by saying that look tabori brought them he didn't bring them and affirm them or say that they have validity he brought them if you read through the pages at the end in his conclusion of this verse he says that they are bartilla and this is what called the yad sides him or whatever besides him

and what's really fascinating and uh sorry what's what's what's also very useful to see as well is called the yard's discussion on it is amazing in the shift see the malikia were very clear about something about the honor of the prophet salallahu because some people started to say and this is later on see some people were so committed to the hadith project that they started to say well what if it was true but it's just not that the prophet said it but that maybe

it was the shaytan said it what if it was true now this is where cathy yad has an incredible discussion in the shift which is a a seerah book about the prophet this is so one of the best discussions you see on it

we mentioned and i'll bring this up they say imagine you found something a rewire that sahih but it goes against the quran that rewire would clearly be battled because the prophet could not be preaching on one hand the quran his whole life whilst teaching simultaneously that is coming through just one person saying he said this that's not he said if it was sahih it would be rejected if it contradicted the quran he says what do you and what's uh what about these that are utterly weak

and unacceptable and fabricated so that's something this is why i want to bring these i'll show you some of these discussions we you can see here now one of the problems was some people like ibm was a problem here you see ibn hajj for no reason hundreds of years later seven hundred years we're talking after the prophet salallahu and after we're talking you know one two centuries after

all the and all these people and he has issues with you see it's not he doesn't have necessarily issue with quality or a vocabulary but he has an issue with that school of thought the school of thought that is a hadith relativist why because ibn hajjar is an utter hadith dogmatist in fact the canonization of sahil bukhari to become um the what it is today the

the the way the makam that it has the kind of cannonity of it it didn't exist before like in obviously sahil bukhari existed in other yachts so let's say 4th century islam 5th century islam these books are there and people respect them they highly rate them it's not that they don't but it hasn't emerged to the phenomenon that people that it later becomes it becomes this it is utterly kind of bulletproof in a way

that really happens by just two people and this shafe because the shafa is hadith dogmatist they believe that if i if the chain is sahih nothing else matters if you bring me a sahih chain throw everything else against the wall it is it is now a fact just because one from one from one and these people are verified and the people who concretize this method who really crystallize this is first of all ibn salah but then after salah

he is so invested in the hadith project so invested and with sure he's got great intentions i'm not saying he's malicious or he's malignant or he's trying to spread venom he's committed to the hadith project sure and that's you know more power to you you've got a passion but sometimes you know just sometimes that as it says that

sometimes some passions lead you to your own destruction and i'm not saying it led ibn hajj to his destruction but this point of his was very destructive out of a kind of zid a stubbornness being upset at the yard for saying in the shift that these things are bathtill and even if they brought a chain throw it against the wall like we don't accept any chain that tries to disrespect our prophet he in reaction to that writes this in his fatal body he says

he says that look many chains show that this hadith has an origin so he just say look these people don't accept it however he says he says if a chain hadith has multiple chains even if they're weak we this shows it has a solid thing why

if i get that's the equivalent of that is saying if i got five peop if i got one person who's a liar and he says something now five people who are liars say the same thing it must therefore be right because there's five people saying but they're untrue they're not trustworthy he said but now there's five but there's five untrustworth

you know if i've got a bag of money here and i say well you know i'll leave it with one but here there's five of them it's like but but they're unreliable they're not trustworthy so how can you take unreliable people and untrust non-trustworthy people and accept them for the messenger of allah and you wouldn't accept them if they were unreliable on something let's say something very material like money but you accept these people are

unreliable but you throw a number in there now we'll accept them about allah and his messenger never now and he's upset that abu bakr is attacked the hadith kind of project on that so he says he says that i've found three chains where they have the narrators of the people of the sahih india

but they don't they're not connected to the prophet now check this this is his sting back and then he says and he says in another point as well um that that these people accept mursal are the other accepts more because the mother of malik accepts morsel mursal is where the chain isn't connected to the prophet but the taba e says something about the prophet but he doesn't tell

you who he heard it from so he's kind of saying well these people accept mursal huh so why aren't they accepting this this is ibn hajjar's clear blind mistake that he it's and i'm not saying he i'm not saying he did this out of malice he didn't what's ironic is he did this out of sheer passion and love for his com and his commitment to hadith the hadith project that he was so committed to the hadith

project that he didn't realize what he's saying or maybe he realized but didn't realize what he's actually saying here the absurdity the irony so you see this um and just to show we'll kind of quickly go through some of these and suti does the same thing and siyuti's wording is very misleading um he says

some of them the chain is but it's not you see it's just that the rijal are of this i the sonnet there isn't a single one with the sun at sahi and there's been a lot of criticism of sentence because he says oh and some of them the son of this no it isn't it's in the synod of people of the sahih but it's a cut chain and that too will bazaar this one that he's trying to um that he's referring to so you can see these chaffees like sioti is a big chef

once again very involved in the hadith project jalaladina silty and you can see here this uh and you've got the way what the yeah now people have clearly torn these apart now they mentioned them um i'm just trying to read the end see him he says look ibna jared tabari brings that but he doesn't quote this is why it's so unfair he doesn't quote the end where ibrahimovic says all of these they just say oh he quotes them he does quote them but he goes on to say the

invalid so it's i don't know this passion for the hadith project siyuti was really involved in trying to be the the hadith reviver of his age he really longed to be ibn hajjar in fact he says in his thing that when i went to do um hajj i drank from the water of zamzam and i made dua because there's a hadith that whatever you drink zamzam for you can become it it is a cure for whatever you drink he said i drank it with the intention ya allah make me like his hero

and you can see his commitment maybe to that is what has kind of blinded him here i don't know but it's um but you can see here that it shows people who clearly critiqued analyzed and destroyed this hadith of it's called and it mentions that look at seha

he said that people brought this because it was something that would catch attention so many of the mufasirin put it in because it helped them uh and bhai mufasirin he doesn't mean the super popular one but he's saying but even them later on but people in the early days because it caught it sold it it went like oh my god this is like what's this so he says this this is all it is you find it in the books of uh uh tafsir but ibn says it's he does bring it but he clearly refutes it and uh does mention that

look this is clearly anybody investigates this is fabricated it's haram to be transmitting this to be saying this and check you know the beauty check the surah that they fabricated this in they fabricate this in surah najam which allah begins surah najim by saying

the verse the surah they begin this with is the one where allah says that how can this be fabricate this that this is revelation he does not come up with anything there's a verse of the quran allah says if he was to fabricate something we would have seized him and he would have we would have he would have had such a tormenting punishment in several places of the quran allah is saying that this is from allah revelation and that allah says in another verse

which which ironically is surah allah says that the shaitaan will say on the day of judgement alaikum i had no power over you i couldn't physically do anything for you innamada confessed i just whispered and you responded shaytan does not have the power to be talking impersonating your voice this is what qadha yaad mentions this is what abercrombie mentions this is why they say look this is absurd on every level so

let's uh move back through some of these suti mentions this this was the problem with some of these people mention this now some of the people who do speak and condemn it clearly and show you that even the cathedrals he says in he says that yes people have built the foundation the hustle of this incident they're basing it on what is in bukhari and muslim about the prophet was reading surah najim and people prostrated mentioned nothing about this stuff he says

this is not there is the incident that the prophet was it just says the prophet was reading surah najim and everybody in the haram prostrated including the kuffar of quraysh now look at the facility all these now just moving on this is what abu bakr ibn army says and this is so important he says he says

narrations the quran do not put all these things in there that are indeed where has allah said these things how are you putting this in there just as speculation he says

and he says well look why has this crept through then he says well people have mentioned it but like anything allah has given you an intellect and the tradition has reached you the quran has reached you read it don't blindly just follow and if you see this as a test then it is a test investigate it and see it

so and we've got here some let me bring up some right okay this is uh from actually albani has a very interesting book uh dedicated to the ranik i think it's called uh manjani or something phil uh tessa tel garani or something and he shows the whole fabrication but he brings many interesting he brings a lot of quality because the odds one of the most the maliki legend one of the most outspoken aboriginal arteries one of the most outspoken uh just copies and pastes almost a lot of what even audrey had to say

but albany does bring other people he brings these dissenting or these kind of weird voices and and here is you can see this is uh citing uh now this on the right hand side um he says look so he's mentioning look how certain verses of the quran then it doesn't make sense allah is saying this and he says look the quran is showing you that this couldn't be true like how could the prophet come from how could

the prophet praise stone and at the same time be condemning stone as the these these statues are useless he says if there was something like that now you move to the second page the one on the left hand side these if there was something that contradicted the quran he says hadith these verses would weaken the hadith law if they were sahih if the hadith was sahih and it clashed with the quran it would weaken the hadith see that's the the principle if the hadith was sahih and he contradicted the

quran he says you can see there he says if the hadith had it been sahih it would have weakened it if it clashed with the verses he says and so what do you think about something that isn't even sahih so and then he goes on mentions more verses uh of the quran and he says look uh that many of the people of quraysh and zakrif um they would say uh that look please do this for us please do that for it does this this is

antithetical to the entire message of islam and the whole struggle of the prophet what was the struggle then because clearly there was a struggle so it doesn't they're just showing the absurdity uh this is actually ibn tamir now this is the problem you see you've got ibn tamir here giving his discussion in his fata much more uh and i'll i'll just explain what this is this is muhammad ibn abdul wahab in his book says

but he didn't mean to say it and um and allah corrected it so and and so you've got uh ibn samia saying the same thing except ibn samir also is inclined to saying well the story is true the prophet um this was said the prophet either he said it the shaitaan put it on his tongue and he said it all the the the prophet was silent and the shaitaan impersonated the prophet's voice and people thought the prophet said it so ibn

is saying that that wheel that he's coming with that muhammad is just saying the shaitaan just put it on the prophet's tongue ibn hajjar is probably going to the fact that the shaitaan said it and impersonated but he's saying look there's some story it's got some truth to it because of the hadith project isn't investment look this is where it comes back and this is where once again you've got at the end the ibn one of the great who very early in islam who's just really just after the time of imam bukhari he just passes away in the 300s um you

know just a generation um i believe he's yeah just a generation or two after the after imam bukhari so him at that stage saying that he's a look it's clearly people who look there were look there were issues as well it is true it's not always but they have look there's always been some people who will let's say go with the flow it's that

in any given time are against the the the overarching uh authority so you will find many places where even in the past you'll find uh in muslim lands there will be certain people who let's say their father embraced islam they don't really like it but they just don't want to make a hoo-ha because maybe they're worried in that day and age as you can imagine a bit of lawlessness here and there and people are afraid today of blasphemy so back then so you get these were people that they used to call zindiq that they weren't really muslim but they were just going

with the flow and and just being muslim and some of them maybe they were muslim but brought in the other cultural stuff that was part of their baggage so let's say they were christian before so they bring a bit more christianity into islam some of them were jewish before they bring a bit more of that jewish element into islam some of them maybe don't like islam some of them were zerostrians so they bring about a bit of that zoroastrianism into islam and they get a chance to transmit and they transmit it sometimes maybe innocently sometimes false memories sometimes they're mishearing sometimes maybe intentionally maliciously there have been several narrations where

people own up to making up hadith several incidents where people say i uh hadith i fabricated so many hadith because i thought it was good for such and such many people say that i mean not many but there's several people who have said that that i fabricated such and such hadith to defend such and such cause so very early on you had great hadith specialists of the caliber of imam bukhari ibn khuzeiman just a generation two after him very early on in islam who clearly said look this was people who weren't happy with islam just

kind of built on that story that was about all the people prostrating and people said why would you believe it because the prophet actually compromised for a few days and or the shaitaan deceived the prophet and then the prophet later on re learned oh oh my god this was the jibril this was the the prophet the angel sorry this was the devil that told me this or the prophet went quiet and the devil impersonated the prophet's voice and read utterly just ridiculously absurd and totally stupid

but then you had some people that made a huge mistake and look amongst them is even it's even a team here it's people like muhammad abdullah it's and these okay especially uh and hypnotamia that in their own way they've done a lot for islam as well like they've done a lot for islam most of what they've done has been has been a huge effort in the legacy of islam

okay at least definitely even has done a certain amount as well certain amount i don't but a huge amount of legacy i know to the salafia he's done a huge amount to the rest of the muslims he's he's he's kind of he's done a certain amount but he's not to the other muslims he's not as huge as he is to the salafis to the salafis he is their go-to imam that's it there is nothing other than greater than hypnotamia to the extent that certain scholars of the salafi have said that if it wasn't for sahaba the companionship of the prophet he excels

above certain companions of the prophet that's as absurd as you can imagine as the statement gets but that's for their blind following and blind love of ibn samia sure and he has done certain things for islam unquestionably you know not knocking he has done certain things for islam and he obviously dedicated his life these three they've definitely contributed to the contributed to the legacy of islam they have muhammad even not so much but the the if anything the

detriment of islam is probably harmed islam and the people but the and he was not really a scholar of any caliber either muhammad i know the uh wahhabi and the salafi obviously rate him but there's nothing really to demonstrate his his kind of core understanding or i don't know i understand but his um his kind of like depth of grasping because ultimately he was just a bedouin he was just a bedouin who was very zealous about islam he had a great passion for islam that's unquestionable he had you know a great but he had a misplaced passion like his

passion was very passionate about islam wanted to do something but ended up doing a lot of harm just kind of fought against the ottomans murdered genocide of normal regular sunni muslims we declared mushriks because they they were sufis and he killed people that came to the hajj uh declared them kuffar raided them took their women raped them that kind of stuff said it's halal because they're mushriks and a lot of really that that you know the the kind of isis image that's that's where it's stemming from

muhammad but if you want to learn more about him i know um maybe excessively bro has got a lot of a long series of videos about muhammad abdul wahab on youtube personally i don't know why he's got that many videos dedicated to muhammad look to me these are just facts of how he was sure people admire him and i think maybe many people don't know about the things he he did in their depth so that's why they they just hear of him as a great person

so because of that they think oh he's a great person so that's fine and to me it's there's no point in being obsessed about people because as the quran says these are nations that have gone they have you know they whatever they put forward they received whatever you put forward you will receive like don't be listen this so this is not about me trying to attack muhammad ibn abdul wahab or

[Music] most scholars in islam have contributed to the legacy of islam but some of them many of them okay let's back that up they're all humans so they've all made mistakes you're making mistake i'm making mistakes we're all making mistakes some more than others and some more grave than others and it may be that their mistakes were their grave mistakes were just one-offs do you get we're not here to judge them

i'm not here to say uh ibn hajjar was a no i i personally as a person as a scholar for his efforts and his thing that was a great person i love reading his stuff at times i love childhood stuff he's great i mean his stuff speaking at times about the love for the prophet salallahu is great and amazing his love for the appearance of the prophet he has a book that the parents of the prophet anybody who says anything bad about them is unacceptable showing his love for the prophet sallallahu alaihi islam these people love the prophet don't i'm not saying that they but on this point

we always defend the prophets the honor of the prophet sallam above any individual it doesn't matter if it's ibn hajj or it doesn't matter if it's suti it doesn't matter if it's hypnotemia they were wrong even if they had good intentions they were wrong shaytan does not impersonate the voice of the prophet shaytaan does not put the words on the tongue of the prophet salallahu it's ridiculous

the this is why this point is anchored into when i said my whole thing on as well even though this hadith is not in bukhari but it's that same concept in saying look when you come across something that tries to sling mud on the character of the prophet sallallahu and it's in a book this incident is not in the the quranic thing satanic verse is not in sal bukhari in any of the sahih books or any of the major books but

if you find an incident that is doing that your loyalty is first and foremost with the prophet salallahu not with this great muhaddith great person he may be maybe a great human being but he's not the prophet you don't owe him any loyalty don't think tomorrow this mahatma this scholar is going to be upset with me i mean i i mean a classical scholar oh but if i don't defend him no what on earth is that about they couldn't care less

imam malik's famous statement somebody said something to imam malik and even his own opinions sometimes he would change his own opinions people sometimes say to him look what about you you said this once trying to catch him out he said because imam malik would for a certain while teaching the prophet's mosque he was in he lived in madinah he said

that he every single person you take from them and you leave from them you accept and you reject at times and he points to the prophet's tomb he said illah except the one who rests here the prophet salallahu nobody else everybody else we respect you know uncomplicated we we can love them we can

we don't need to be disrespectful look i and i said this before i accept even delivery i i accept that i've my way of saying things in the past i've tried to emphasize this message that the honor of the prophet always comes first i think that i've been mistaken in the way i've said it maybe it's put it's made people react to me saying it and they've doubled down and so we're all learning you know this is a journey we're all on it you know we're all on the same thing it's our own journey but we're all on the same path it is the honor of the prophet salallahu it is not

it is it is not up for question it is not it is it is not something that oh if we had to choose between a mahadith or a great imam or any imam anybody imam malik people like imam malik and abu hanifa were from the very early islam they were never in these kind of controversies they had like the utmost love for the prophet i mean imam malik wouldn't in the inner part of medina he would never wear shoes in that part of medina he said that this this is where the prophet salallahu his

foot had said that's had he had walked on these streets on this soil that dear eye he refused to ride a horse or any whether it was a mule or anything inside the inner part of medina said no i won't do it this is where the prophet walked out of love for the prophet sallallahu alaihi so when we see these things is it's just it's this is just a reminder okay i really wanted to cover it because of what why it was relevant the whole satanic verses what is it an overview of salman rushdie uh

sorry um to him but to uh because the name is actually not his surname as i mentioned it's actually an affiliation decided by his father to the great maliki scholar ibn rushd so an overview of him a psychoanalysis on why he may have authored that book his lifestyle his way of thinking what his book was about the kind of characters the novel why it was blasphemous we covered that it wasn't just that he was critiquing islam he has the right to critique islam any person doesn't accept islam or believe in islam

or anything you if you don't believe in something you have the right to critique it but let's not conflate that with i just have a free license to insult you i can just swear at you i can just call your mom this and this and this and this just because i have the right to to wag my tongue and i have the i have the ability to do it that's not how human societies are built you know people say oh the human society this is democracy no it isn't democracy is showing people courtesy that they get a choice in things

you see just coming out just saying democracy is my right to just swear at people and insult them and insult them no it isn't that's that sure that's a very twisted way of looking at it but then what were these satanic verses um in arabic called okay hadith so we looked at that we looked at where um first of all how these were utterly false and there were a story that was uh scaffolded uh it was on the base of an incident of suratul najam where

the where everybody in the haram prostrate prostates prost prostrates and the question is why did they do that so some later people gave an explanation this serene start to attach it to this verse of the quran which we covered in the beginning about the verse being that it's nothing about that the verse is a general verse and it gives meaning it gives strength to people it reminds us that look sometimes when we have certain wishes some wishes can derail us some wishes we can be we need to focus

always on the present and the future and we gain strength from that so we are taking a look at verse 52 from and some of us serene just saw the the trade cells they had started putting this in but tabari even though he put it in but he mentions at the end all this before him the um or around his time his kind of era in three hundred you've got ibn kuzma mentioning it's absolutely fabricated from people

then you've got god yeah you've got uh many we showed many people many people showing this is utterly unacceptable it's disrespectful it's blasphemous it's haram it's lia jews they said alcohol you know you can't say this kind of stuff but yes you had some people who were so um committed to the island project of chain that they felt you can't just dismiss any chains even if they're weak because they invested in the project like even

now they said well in that case we're going to say this has some basis which was actually incoherent because even by their principles by the way the shaffer is to do not accept mursal so the rewayats that are not connected at the end they don't accept the messiah so for him to say that oh but i suppose he's saying that well i accept they're all weak but because there's several we're going to say it has a basis but if it has a basis are you going to say well it has some basis based on okay these people prostrated we don't know why or you're saying well no this incident

actually happened and then they start justifying that which was absolutely unwarranted but they did it but that's fine i mean okay it's not fine but it's them and we don't need to blindly follow them they did it they were wrong and you've got clear explanations got lengthy anybody wants to read can read detailed explanation i advise you for further reading you can read the shiva this section of qadhafi's which he cites is a very similar to a work advantage if you want a very good uh and more recent several books albany's book on this is

actually really fascinating because he's bringing all these people he's bringing he brings him to me as well and he brings uh called the earth he brings our work he clearly shows that this is unacceptable this is utterly unacceptable we can't be saying things like this so that's the summary of what this hadith is and the satanic verses i hope inshallah for anyone that want to have a certain grasp on the topic this has been helpful cool let's uh

i am going to wrap this up um shall i bring on a guest look jamal raja says abu leith has too much swag rajasab you sound like a man with of good judgment [Laughter] so

let's um you know what shall i bring um shukran i the reason i went on for so long uh was just i i thought i know maybe somebody will watch it and it could be of some help to someone someday that this topic is troubling so yeah it is uh this is indeed a deep topic it is shukran um lanzata shukran much love as always great breakdown you know what okay let's share a bit of the shall we wrap this up a bit early then

i'm a bit exhausted today i've had so much that went on today should have tea should be able to go ciao god born in the wrong era i needed to be ah that would be the life huh [Laughter]

much love allah bless you sultan what an epic name um sure sure i can do something a segment on khatib al-baghdadi's principles of criticizing hadith um yeah this uh cake rusk let's share the let's oh we've got wilkinson wilkinson

where's my earphones here let's i've shared the link greetings from kuwait all right i need to connect this one ah espera let me just where is the bluetooth

actually you know what i've got to set up my other mic i've got a better mic now this is a good mic by the way but i've got a one that's meant to be better it's meant to so i've got to set that up right let me connect hmm here it is ah is it connected you just check here in settings play oh it is like i just heard it go awesome and we've got you know what let's get we've got

ashikura man just come on uh a regular let's bring up ashiko us [Music] how are you doing [Laughter]

if we didn't do love then we would do government this is uh that's the situation it took all the time yeah it just preoccupied us that's what he's building on this poet when he's saying he's trying to say that because of love i've become useless and this poet's building on that he's saying that you know if we hadn't done if we hadn't fallen in love or done

love then we would have ended up ruling the world but it made us useless this is so from ishq you get ashik from aashik you get ashikor well i once uh told my friend the point that i made it up like [Laughter]

what's preoccupying your thoughts what would you like to any thoughts any words you'd like to share with us rahman last uh i wanna talk about like i'm just all over the all over my place um just come to home few minutes ago what a so yes okay well we'll try to keep it quite brief because there's a few people jumped on and i'll bring them on and um i did want

to wrap up relatively uh soon so so is there if there's something you'd like to share i was just reading some of the comments yeah so uh here's a lecture of jordan peterson a few days back uh so he has uh he was telling our dreams like he said that when you see a dream uh we don't uh we like become observer like we see our dream as a observer but it is

also happening to us at the same time say that so we with that we observe the dream and it's happening to us like when when we see a dream we see a dream about us that we are in a place where we're in environment and at the same time we are observant of us like we see ourselves from the outside yet we are the actual story of the dream like serious

how does it make sense like how do we uh become a story and also become the observer at the same time [Music] that's so i never thought of it like that the dream thing but yeah wow like he is profound when he said he when he said it it just clicked instantly like yeah wow i'm glad you said that that's actually really um hard hitting actually is it consciousness at the um unknown level like

unknowingly we experience it for the like okay so here's one way of looking at it what if consciousness yeah as several people including aldous huxley and other people and certain psychologists see this let's say consciousness is the rule that the body is tapping into yeah so the the brain what if the brain is apart from just it's tapping into consciousness like like our phone taps into reception or wi-fi

but it's not just tapping into it consciousness is that powerful that it's a reductionist valve so it has to it's like imagine you've got a powerful stream of water coming and you've got to kind of you've got this hose on it like a that's only allowing in a certain amount that makes sense for us because the certain amount allows us to survive in this world now the brain let's say it's a it's it's this functionality as a reductionist valve it enhances it creates it it bolsters

the sense of the ego and thereby it diminishes a sense of oneness with being so this non-duality and and that's important why in this realm in this lahu in this dunya of the why is that impo because insan has to survive to survive he will hunt to survive he will have to do things which if he's at one with the universe that kind of i want he won't

want to do those things so being in a state of the bolstered ego it boosts our survival ability to and it maximizes our survival in this in this life in this game and distraction this as calls this world that's what we're in this kind of almost like a simulation realm which is a game so in this what if now at certain times like let's say when we sleep maybe a tiny bit

of that consciousness valve is kind of altered it's loosened a slight amount so it's like maybe what comes in is a bit more and so it's like the tap is almost slightly loosened and some things some medicines some plants sacred medicines some plants like mushrooms dmt these things when they get in they get in the brain they loosen our grip on the unconsciousness so what it does is we experience things that we normally can't experience

so that's i mean like that's a way a perspective allah it's a way of looking at things it makes a lot of sense i tell you uh obviously it's hard to say what is you know which is the but this is it's i think it's a very strong explanation um dream is very interesting because sometimes uh like when it is so real that we actually sometimes feel pain or like we are drowning we are falling from the very like it is so real and i tell you

what's interesting is a dream you see a dream is not always very real sometimes it can feel real sometimes often we can know that sometimes we can tell that oh it was just a dream um sometimes it feels so real that we distinguish we mistake it for a memory sometimes you have done something in a dream and you think i've like you might think oh but i put this here you didn't it was just in a dream you did it and i know this happened to me in the past i thought oh no i remember putting the uh i'm not even i remember i i'm not even in that country

it's like i remember having a few dreams like that in the past um it's i won't say i once had a dream about that everyone knows my secrets not even like a few members of me a man like you i was about to say you probably just got nice secrets then you're like it was horrible for uh

what the hell what's fascinating though is you know with psychedelics that people feel was more real than real it's really weird how they all describe it that and they don't describe it like a dream they don't say it's a dream they say we know what a dream is this wasn't a dream it's just it's just weird these things are really fascinating discussions though i do um somebody said i hate when i wake up in the middle of oh right they said in the middle of a wet dream that's

[Laughter] that's all for today i've got to get through some of these other questions but it's been happening i really appreciate you sharing that with me much love uh stay blessed you know somebody so ahead of his time for of his peers it just wow you know that the profundity of thought in such a young man i can't i can only imagine i can't even imagine actually that where would this

man be in 20 years from today in his thought wow um we've got somebody called sadid uh right one second assalamu alaikum assalamu alaikum i'm good i'm good where are you joining us from i'm joining actually i'm from bangladesh i am joining you from malaysia you're joining us from international person sadie no no no no but you know really i thank you for giving me uh your time and actually i follow your videos for such a

long time and today i have had the privilege to you know uh has some words with you i had because uh you are in my understanding the most racially rationally understood movie because you were factually correct that's what i have found and today i meet you you know one to one like i have the opportunity to ask you some questions some kind of god bless you allah bless you really really thank you brother and uh thank you and i have some questions you know i study the quran i read translations okay and uh the problem is some of my friends

they are atheist they trouble me asking some questions you know um sorry to bother you like it might kind of force your time like you can make a video on this topic later on it's not now it's not a waste of our time but yeah sure of course go please i'd like to drop some questions too maybe you drop the you can make the video later on i don't need it exactly now but my friends they because i read quran i read the translations and i'm a firm believer in islam and some of my friends you know the atheist you know they trouble me with these questions they tell me you know why is mary called the sister of haroon i told them that there is a hadith prophet muhammad

already clarified it at his time that the that the people living in the time used to name their children after the pious people who once lived among those among that tribe so they say no no hadith is a kind of it's a mix of true and i know it's a mix of truth and falsehood so it's not kind of i told them that there is a verse in the quran that abraham noah and family of imran these families are descendants of each other but then again they asked me new questions i told them but they they said no this is not convincible they i asked why why is not considerable they told me that sister

maryam the mother of jesus her father's name was imran and the miriam the sister of moses her father's name was also imran and here the people some people call mother of jesus as sister of haroon so one woman have similar family names like like i'm john my brother's name is max and my father's name is uh peter and there is another john her brother name is max and uh sorry his father's brother's name is max and his uh father's name is peter how can two person have identical family names in terms of father and brother he then they told me don't you think it

it's kind of weird thing so i'm thinking about it i'm trying to find because they don't accept hadith and all this traditional writing so i am trying to no no i'll i'll share i'll share some thoughts in shovel yeah you can make a video on this later no no no i'll yeah no i'll show you right so i'm not no no no no no no no no no of course no no this is this is sure it's a great question it's a great question yeah look i want to say that

the problem is how can two people have like their the brother's name is same and father's name is same so how can that is it a coincidence or prophet muhammad stories or is it really a mistake a copy from bible so this is the movie so so okay so the show is great great question sure look one thing i want to say when we approach something um this is for the friends so this is for people who are legitimately asking these questions let's not approach it all of it let's approach it with applied uh common sense for the for whatever it is we're discussing yeah

for whatever it is like i'll give you an example now um and we'll come to this one but i'll give you another example that people i got into a discussion with someone who said to me um you know the uh uh that was it um now um allah is saying in the quran that they're saying they're claiming that allah is saying that um

that in sun is made from a water that jumps sperm it comes out it can mean he comes out okay so because has the pronoun in it he or it third person in it so just as if i said uh you know like he's coming out of the room right now so i said is this is it saying what what is the pronoun speaking about

is it speaking about the child or is it speaking about the sperm so they said well you speak about the sperm i said okay well why why can it not be speaking about the child that the child comes from between these like the hard place and the soft place so they said well no you know we think it it means the sperm no no you can't say this and i said no but i'm not changing i'm using the actual same word i'm not adding a word i'm not the word means this does it not so they said yeah yeah so i said okay okay pause pause pause i haven't added anything i'm saying because it's speaking about insane in

sun is made me ma from sperm that is kind of ejaculating he or it comes out from between the hard place and the and the kind of soft uh yeah the kind of comforting or the the place okay could be to why is he not talking about the insane because that's where the baby comes from no no he's talking about sperm i said okay you and i but this word means it covers both does it not it does okay so this is one potential this is one potential that is referring to the insulin

sure let's go with your potential it's referring to sperm fine okay did i want to ask you something i said i said this look i want to ask you something did the arabs not know that the testes produce sperm did they not know this they they practiced the hadith teach you that they used to practice castration the arabs did they used to so that the animal so there's several i had these describing that the arabs used to what they used to do to the horse is testes so it doesn't

reproduce so they would neuter the horse so it it castrate the horse so it doesn't have any uh children it doesn't obviously go on they would do this with animals they used to certain people used to do this to slaves did they not used to know that the uh the testicles produced on their battlefields had they not cut up people so many times did they not know this very basic thing that the sperm is coming out of the testes it's coming out of it's linked to this that they the fact that they would do like they described that they would do a certain i'm not i'm not saying this isn't the prophet but

the arabs in the time it comes in the hadith used to do this with the horse they would bruise the the testicles of the horse and castrate they would do this you had several is a they would often describe certain slaves that were khasi that they had their testicles missing and they couldn't reproduce how what this is all in that same literature they know that the testicles produce sperm so okay let's go with it so the hadith let's say this verse first of all the verse is

going back to insane but even if you say look the sperm comes from a place like this it's literary language it's it's like a literary expression because everybody there knows with how sperm works they all knew they used to castrate they used to people in that society to do these things so why is it that you so i said to the person why is it you approach them as though they had zero knowledge of the world they used to have you know they lived in nature so sure they may not have had the technical like oh this is the name for this vein going in here and this but

they s they had seen these things maybe they had a different name and they it was slightly more less developed than today the super technical development of medical science but they understood basic things so now you can't you could say oh they didn't understand dna and stuff like that but but they had a very basic understanding they did understand at the primordial sense what was going on so when you approach this it's like if i said look like imagine i said look somebody came into this room and i said well oh wow you know you you you ain't you this person is a sight for so rise

and you say well uh okay so people now 500 years later get my words and and they say oh well this guy clearly didn't know how uh orthomology worked and didn't know the eye he thought maybe by looking at something it would soothe his eyes no well obviously you would know that so it's language so okay now just my point of saying that is we have to keep common sense contextualized common sense contextualized information in our assessment now let's go to the story of uh mary did

the the the jews the arabs did they not know of moses they did they'd heard of moses people had heard of moses did they not know that mary and jesus were from the israelites they were from bani israel who come later on everybody knew that they knew there's a huge gap so to say that oh well i know there's a big difference because jesus is following the law of moses from much earlier that the law has changed in jesus's time and he jesus comes says he says

i've come to affirm that which went long before me the law of moses so how could moses's brother be his uncle like the the story tells you they know this like because they're citing in different places have you forgotten about when moses said this and when this happened with the israelites and it's in the quran they they hadn't it's to say the prophet never knew it's in the quran he still is speaking of these stories so once we know that it's impossible that the prophet thought moses was alive in jesus time that doesn't make any sense that's all

the stories of moses in the quran so now okay we have this passage this verse saying so now we could understand well okay we know that they knew as a fact that moses was much before jesus what does this mean why is it it's definitely not haroon alive then because that doesn't make any sense so what many people say is that that's because was she from the levy tribe the levites because the you know the legal tribe

that the kind of um they they they trace their lineage to harun so the kind of jurists the fukaha amongst bani israel the the levy or the levi kind of tribe they trace that back through haroon through uh aaron not through uh it's not through moses so that tribe uh that is affiliated from the tribes of bani israel so and they were the fukuha they were the kind of so you had the sadducees and the pharisees now the thing was that and obviously and

you've got from them you've got the the levites so the question was that so what many ulama have said is that she was from that tribe that descendant so when they're saying it's because of that tribal affiliation because they're all ultimately bani israel but then some are from this tribe some are from that one thing we know as a fact is nobody thought musa was alive in jesus time nobody thought that the arabs did not think that the prophet clearly didn't think that because it's in the quran

when moses was alive in harun so to say he thought oh but moses was haroon was alive uh you know uh one and a half thousand years later in jerusalem or in um in the in in in the time of uh isa ali is absurd nobody would have thought that so sure now you could have at it with a different interpretation somebody could say well maybe uh shiz cordia orta for some other reason the most common sense one does seem that the tribe of the the kind of jewish

tribe of bani israel uh are traced their lineage usually to harun al-islam and people say that maryam was from that lineage so allah but that seems like a very plausible answer but i hope that helps uh sadie yeah the main takeaway these always apply contextual data like what would these people already know like they already know certain things so if there's no point saying it's like did the arabs know what sand was

of course they lived in the desert so if you had some sentence where they're saying something about sand like what is san then what isn't the correct answer is they never knew what sand is maybe it's a rhetorical question maybe it's a metaphorical question maybe it's something because they definitely knew what sand was they lived in a desert so when you so always apply contextualized data yeah so uh but how about the uh her father's name was imran according to quran and the bible also says that

miriam her father's name was amram which in hebrew is transferred to arabic becomes imran yeah yeah so the strange thing is like both women have their fathers having the same names so that's where the confusion so that's not a confusion not confusion because according to some of the critics not me actually no but the critics no but the critics are just being stupid because look they're not applying common sense like they're being oh look the same name why did they say this oh so the prophet thought moses was alive walking with jesus

that's dumb like nobody thinks that like come on wait a minute are you hearing yourself like if you ask them okay let me get this right you're saying that the arabs thought moses and jesus lived at the same time the quran itself is telling the story of moses much before they come back to the holy land they live in egypt it's telling you the story of egypt they this is much after he is with the early israelites this is much later jesus is saying i've come to correct all that which you know went much before me and you guys have corrupted some of it and you've missed the mark and so

i think it's it's so stupid like i think they haven't thought the question through i think what's happened is they've got excited thinking they've i know i think i've caught a mistake and they got so excited that they're not actually thinking the question through now wait a minute what are we actually asking do we think that even i bet you if you ask them do you think that the arabs thought that moses lived with jesus in the same time in jerusalem or in nazareth they would say no i don't think that nobody thinks that that's like a silly question but they're not framing it from that way they're framing oh i think i

caught a mistake but no but everybody knows that so it can't mean that so once you reframe it you realize ah it's a method of elimination so you realize oh well it can't mean that then but what else could it mean well maybe it could mean like you're saying that this similarity so people used to just call it that like sometimes people just call you something because there's some similarity and that does happen quite a bit as well people culturally might say something oh you know they give you a name because uh you resemble something which somebody else resembled or they had even though there's no actual link to you but uh or it could be that

there's the tribal lineage of um she's from the descendants of harun alaysalam so they called people from that you know maybe they're linking them to the lev levy kind of tribe it could be but whatever it is it definitely isn't that it isn't that they thought moses lived and hung out with jesus nobody thought that that's just like everybody knows that that's just this is absurd to even ask but yeah shukran for the question but still the father question i mean how do you justify that both women

had uh their fathers uh like having the same name that's uh i don't understand what's the problem with having the same name no problem but i mean because this maryam jesus mother of jesus um she was called the sister of harun al-islam and let's say that's in a tribal sense

uh similar to amram of mari who was he was the father of moses in haroon so this name the father's name could have been different but father's name is also the same so look first of all so there's a number of things okay we'll wrap it with this yeah i'll wrap it up with this um there's a number of things first of all people having similar names of the same tradition is not like these are very like let's say a name like jesus for example yeshua was very common in jesus's time he wasn't like exceptional to have the name yeshua or jesus or yeshua or however aisa however we want to say it was like many

people have had that name it's not something so so if there is a similarity name it's first of all because these names were common secondly there isn't a question as well that what was moses's father's name so this is another question because some people have argued that there's a theory okay um that theory is that um now this this is one positive theory that okay um imran or amram

is not actually amram but is it's it's called as in it's going back to amana the kingdom which was set up like people who said that there was a great similarity between moses and akhenaten so they argued that people who argued let's say they were the same individual now they say that akhenaten he when he leaves uh the city of the pharaoh the main city goes and builds a little settlement where they stay um now that becomes known as amana as in that now but they but it would have been am run

because they wouldn't have vowels so uh however it's going to be imran um like this is it now some people say well this name was given to it later on the amana thing but but it was the kingdom of amana it was that and so one theories well that's the name of the place so he gets called by this place and this later people assume to be his lineage like as in because he's called the one of uh uh amran and people say well that's actually imran and this becomes a name

and so people then in coming generations have this name that's also a theory i'm not saying i don't know like obviously these things are impossible to verify for us now until we find more some kind of archaeological archaeological unveiling but so far the amana kingdom it's it's very interesting i found that very fascinating that the amana kingdom and then imran and the kind of uh overlap once again some people have said that look amram isn't imran that there's a significant difference but there's some similarity one could say um it's it seems a bit similar you know

but there have been people said these are separate names as well so look all of this it's either way it's sure you know it's a question but i don't think it's something so like wow it to me it's like okay let's say let's go with the fact it was his name it was his father's name and somebody else had this name but i'm assuming these are common names then within the jewish uh within the israelia within you know the the kind of bani israel the so yeah

cool let's wrap this up um right okay i was just seeing a comment somebody else said as well look sister aaron is is expression for descendant right so yeah it could be that's how i kind of see as well uh but cool somebody else said as well uh amram isn't imran sure um but okay let's sadid uh for coming on and really engaging as much sorry i trouble you today please forgive

me forgive me but next time i will not trouble you i will come with maybe uh like just uh this isn't true i know this is interesting no i i want people to ask questions because it helps other people so yeah i i i forgot to say about your name it's not about don't be silly it's not a bother uh i take it the name is shadeed is it shadeed yeah yeah yeah in arabic but it's written as sadid or is it sadeed

is like something which is on point you know uh like as the poet says like he says um uh he says that you know what this is that typical you know that this is kind of one that allah turns out he says

i brought him up as a little baby i used to feed him with my fingertips i used to teach him how to use a bow and an arrow and this when his forearm became on point and accurate ramani he shot me

[Laughter] thank you please please hold more chat session so i can join and learn from you more than welcome drop me a message on instagram and i'll look out for your profile and we'll stay in touch yeah yeah my name is okay i will uh comment in your instagram and also i will try to join you next time thank you very much and thank you so so much for having the patients to answer my very welcome thank you thank you so much thank you loveless people that was sadeed from malaysia uh but who sorry from bangladesh but who

lives in malaysia currently right okay um what's this somebody said uh yeah yeah of course uh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah of course like on point something that hits the right we've got uh ahmed sultan let's bring him on ahmad sultan assalam alaikum

uh from canada actually from canada alright i was just seeing um i just saw your comments here as well of right joining us from canada to doing it i wanted to say first day i'm of the i've been watching you for years and years and years ever since i was like 14 or so no way yeah how old are you if you don't mind me yes i'm i'm 17 now oh 17 ma mubarak so talk to us ahmed what's preoccupying your precious thoughts

well uh right now the one thing that uh that's really on my mind these days is uh the impact of like the aristotelian and neoplatonic views on islam like uh you know early on we had people like abu maxa and jaber who would take a bunch of uh hermetic texts and pretty much include them in in our doctrine and theology and i was wondering is that more an example of like syncretic islam or is this something that is genuinely like well-founded in our religion wow what what do they give you to eat

and drink in canada yeah it's producing such great minds that such young ages dislike i need to import some of that water or whatever it is wow at the age of 17 you're dude i'm impressed myself no it's just because i've been watching your videos yeah and i've not been discussing these things in in like that it goes to show your passion and even your question i just saw in the comment in the it sent in the private chat it said on uh right on hermes yep wow christ's

majestics are right in islam wow see look at all of these questions that's what a question right so about the neoplatonism and aristotelian thought and i think these things came to people likes as a science because these things were almost a scientific way if we could say of looking at things whether it was looking at ideas or whether it was looking at the world whether it was looking at you have to remember as this

stuff got translated it got brought into the muslim world it it was very impressive for people who were intellectually inclined in that sense they saw it as well because now we take things for granted because the world has moved on and science has caught up and excelled and philosophy has kind of excelled and all these things have so to us it's like well but going back in time these things would have been very or striking wow to be able to kind of narrow things down look at them analytically divide things have categories for everything be

very um yeah so but your question was sorry more about theology was it yeah so like i know early on we had uh like for example ibn naveem or uh right yeah yeah they gen like they they tended to just kind of accept uh all of the aristotelian thought like specifically the aristotelian thought as islamic and they went so far as to say that you know or even hermetic thought for example hermes uh was right i was going to say with your question

that's what certain uh olimar had felt um and they they they equated him um equally to uh to uh thoth from the egyptian um kind of thing as and they saw maybe these people because it is really it seems like some kind of greek rendition of the name is the reason it doesn't have to be but the kind of ease at the end uh but i suppose it doesn't have to be but

it's and it's very um obscure anything about idris because the understanding is he's pre noah yeah so he's like before noah ali and so the question is well okay so who was he and to some people he's you know the person who set out the pyramids and set out certain the infrastructure for the great uh you know empires of egypt to come and he's the people he's the first who taught it how

to write or he made inscriptions and he's the first to so but there's a huge mystery there's a lot of to do with him being the first in conveying knowledge through somehow the pen a lot of muslim scholars have felt that he may have been the first person to introduce this uh but he's long before the great flood yeah and so who who who is this person and the quran doesn't mention much about him at all except you know

like this he was he had this you know an aliyah this kind of elevator and then people say was he enoch of the the kind of of the the biblical apocryphal uh tradition was he this person that was raised by god and he uh was from way before noah's time and and all this so we just don't the question is we obviously there's no way of knowing anything because like this how how could we ever find out um yeah what could we on earth yeah what could we unearth that could give us some insight it's

because the only things we can unearth are right either science makes some breakthrough into something which this isn't doesn't seem to be that real that science could make a breakthrough into that could unearth something or the other thing is archaeological findings and if this is something so old then archaeological findings seem very difficult about an individual sure maybe about an era but nothing about zero is mentioned so it's like well um okay if we take let's say i'm inclined to believe

okay no i'm inclined i do this is where i so here's where i'm at with the great flood i feel the great flood was the younger driest uh the kind of that mini ice age that occurred um so it's it's going well just before 10 and a half thousand years ago so that so so when the globe when we came out of the ice age um i think about 14 000 years ago started to come out then maybe 14 13 uh 13 and a half or something and then uh i think about by about 12 000 years uh a girl so about 10 000 bc

about 10 and a half thousand bc or about 12 and a half thousand years ago the earth for some reason it certainly goes back into a mini ice age like unexpected so first of all it's going according to its kind of pattern the ice age takes thousands of years it does but then suddenly earth is kind of catapulted back into a mini ice age that lasts about one and a half thousand years where this huge kind of flooding that takes place we know several you know much of land certain parts of the globe do go certain certain lands do go under uh underwater

uh we know that there's uh there's still alleged uh living memory through the oral tradition there's a great book the edge of memory uh which is a study on the oral tradition oral memory and it shows where people still have certain memories passed down collectively that date speaking of certain lands that are actually there we know now through obviously satellite footage and geological awareness uh sorry geographical awareness that they they wouldn't know like 100 years ago they wouldn't know

but they have this through tradition passed down that they used to be landed then it got drowned and they're right in many of the occasions and so and that land we know through now uh mathematical kind of surveying that it was in the younger dryas that it gets flooded and the bering strait is another example of that that appears in some of the ottoman maps and it was graham hancock's got a lot of great stuff on this and how it was submerged about ten and a half thousand years ago so if we go with no halle salam this is the era of the younger dryers kind of thing

so okay so we're talking arguably that idris whoever this person whoever this prophet alaihissalam is he's pre that so he must be from the either the the warming the ice age prior to the mini dryers i sage so it's like wow how do we even and what's fascinating is the sphinx because the water damage that it has on its kind of upper surface is dated to up you know we're talking almost 20 000 years ago if not more so when that part of egypt and would have been plunged

underwater so and this finding that was made that this appears to be water damage was mocked for so long and graham hancock speaks about this other people speak about the there's a book about the sphinx mystery and um the origin of the sphinx or something it's called i've got it here somewhere so it's uh i've the i've forgotten the name of the the first person who who kind of postulates this hypothesizes and he gets uh ridiculed and and shunned out of the kind of um archaeological uh you know kind of like fraternity and

he's discredited and his life is made into a misery and but now we're finding evidence to support this like uh um what is it like uh quebec tepee so it's so it's interesting so i honestly i just don't know how we would find out ever about an individual because we'd need writing and i don't know how we would get that and even if we got it we wouldn't be able to decipher it like we've got writing now we've got some if we can call it writing but descriptions of the indus valley so we have some we have indus valley inscriptions uh which may

be anything from six to arguably eight thousand years old indecipherable we don't know how to decipher them and we're still awaiting the rosetta stone we don't know how to crack this so it's like wow even if we did get hold of let's say we unearthed some inscription how how would we even the journey is just so i mean it's exciting but i just don't know how you see there's certain theories that science could lead us to so for example there's a question um

did neanderthals speak and he said well you know language isn't fossilized so how could we ever tell and well true but now we've realized that well okay that the the fox why is it the fox 2p gene so is associated with language and you see it has a certain mutation to it you see it's shared with all species uh with sorry not all with many species it's shared but it undergoes a mutation we have it

at a mutated we have a mutated version of it but we're the only ones that have that mutated version and it's associated with language with us now the neanderthals it appears have the same uh mutated version which now is giving some theory that okay so maybe they had some kind of language it may not have been as and obviously the larynx was not as in as as us but it's also it's kind of halfway it's not quite like primates and monkeys or whatever but it's kind of halfway so maybe they had some kind of

sounds and words but just not as developed as us so here science is giving breakthrough to something that could not have been fossilized so you say well did neanderthals speak well there's no way of ever knowing is the last mystery well actually you know the genome project is shedding light actually well if they had this but when it comes to individuals how would we ever know it's but i love the question man i'm glad you you know you made my my wine my mind wandered so um as to the other thing on aristotelian um

i don't know i don't i don't know if i could have a definitive answer on why certain scholars held the neoplatonism or even aristotelian thought certain scholars like they they believed in the ashara and the ten intellects as you know the whole uh aristotelian thing and pre uh aristotle as well some of them but this thing of that the celestial bodies are also intellects and there's the ten intellect and then there's the great intellect uh

and it's quite a strange theory when you think about you know these 10 intellects and god's kind of working is hierarchy in the hierarchy of intellects and although they don't say allah is the first intellect but they say from him kind of comes this which from it comes the old world and the akrothan even that blah and i see some could say well you know muslims other muslims do it in a similar way like let's say in the mystics would say well first comes this essence allah brings it into being which let's

say sufi is called muhammadiyah or whatever they want to call it but from this emanates uh something else then from that will be this and then you'll get mata and so on and so forth and some people may say well no first of what first emanates we're going to call the first thing uh the pen and then from the pen it brings into existence other things by writing it but here writing doesn't have to be like writing as in it brings it into existence somehow maybe these are all permutations of a a very profound concept which is

difficult almost ineffable like if you look at science saying well first there was you know it's saying well okay we're going to t1 just after nothing and there's some kind of cosmic essence some kind of cosmic dust or something some cosmic reality which then results in a big bang and from energy [Music] emerges you you start to get obviou you get hydrogen you will get you you start to get the the forces start to break off the um you'll have this the strong force the electromagnetic gravity sorry gravity

right in the beginning the four forces then mata emerges and you see so you're seeing this thing in a hierarchy going back to a kind of singularity and it's okay so you know it's interesting that you've got i guess very different things being said but maybe in some way [Music] trying to describe something almost uh you know non-describable you know in a way by using uh different and words i i don't know

but ahmad it's been epic shukran i i really honestly i i admire your your kind of depth at such a young age man what what are you you're still at college i take your high school in your case uh i just finished high school i'm entering uh psychology i'm doing a psych major wow okay you know what you're going to make serious ways man this this greatness ahead of you honestly you studied take two didn't you i i do i have a psychology degree as well yes so i love psychology so it is something you know anything that can explain the human mind and human

behavior it's just fascinating with such strangely strange creatures much love you know what i don't know what you guys are being fed in canada but whatever it is it's boosting that brain power i'm envious why didn't i get this kind of stuff why don't i get it now let alone in my uh younger days guys we're gonna have to we've got two final guests and then we've got to wrap this up it's gone on way too long

spreading kindness and then we'll go on to wilkins comrade we'll be coming to you shortly so spreading kindness assalamu alaikum uh it's it's muted right there your mic is muted whoa there's a lot of interference but yeah

oh right it's kind of uh it's kind of um yeah sure sure okay let me remove you and then come back have you got that you've got the link here so i'll remove you from the studio and then come back um did you watch one of mufti did you watch one of graham hancock's appearance on the joe rogan podcast and took it to run with

uh you know i have watched uh i've watched a lot of um yeah i've watched a lot of stuff love from antarctica [Laughter] you're doing it well much love to you too in antarctica [Laughter] are you gonna dis are you dispelling the flat earthers theory because don't they say well nobody's uh allowed in antarctica

all right okay uh let's nope we don't have him back so let's bring on and then we'll wrap up with this there he is uh spreading kindness assalamu alaikum welcome salaam can you hear me that's a lot better of rice spreading kindness masha'allah what's your name if you don't mind me asking where are you joining from joining us uh i'm from canada my name is atta i thought all right is uh wow canadians are doing it today i'm i'm really impressed with the

caliber of uh it's just something it's you guys are this um you've got ahmad sultan has set the bar quite high as a canadian so you've got to leap up to i don't think i could do that um so tell us a bit about yourself did you have you converted to islam or you i have yeah okay um i'll keep it very brief because i know it's late for you um but i i converted about a year and a half ago um i came from a non-religious background and then just from youtube

i think like a lot of other um people in this generation i got introduced to islam on youtube you know the whole taoist theme and everything and then and then i converted and it was it was amazing um i think as some people have described i went through a very high iman uh kind of phase you know i was very excited very very passionate learning every day and everything yeah um but then i hit this like

brick wall and a few months ago and ever since then um you know i've been i've been going through heavy doubts but i just wanted to say that um your channel and your your your kindness and your spirit and your reasoning has really like pushed me back to stay you know or at least to keep to keep trying because i mean there were there were there were doubts from different angles but some of it came from i would say intellectual doubts but also a lot of it came from you know some of like

the lack of kindness or the lack of you know empathy and humanity that i saw in some of the youtube tawa people um only some of them but but seeing someone like you who use a lot of uses a lot of reason and doesn't accept certain things that um you know just sound absurd um even though it can be quite controversial for you um i just wanted to say how much i appreciate that and um and yeah allah bless you i really i do appreciate that and i

it means a lot it means a lot that any of my things have you know they come that they've been helpful and especially in your journey since you've come to islam and then found let's say some whether there's speed bumps or hurdles along the way and um and it's it's naturally these things are a struggle i guess you know in many ways life itself is a journey and faith is a journey as well um it's

it's so sometimes there's a um you see you know when a person even if they weren't muslim and they are sorry even if they were muslim and they became practicing or especially in your case where you embrace a faith there comes with it this energy and that energy runs with you you don't need to run with it it will run with you but the thing about that energy is it is it has a kind of temporality about it it has a uh it it's not

never-ending it it comes for a certain set period there will be a burnout it's inevitable and the problem is once that what the hope is let's put it like this the hope is that with the energy whilst it's in full swing a person starts um they they start immersing themselves in a way that it doesn't have to be above their head but in a way that that maybe they learn things maybe they start to live uh the faith in a way it enhances them it gives them some meaning it's a bit like like a kind of booster

pack with a rocket that it's taken into orbit and then now it's in orbit so when it when it drops it's cool the problem can be if when it loses that booster pack that it's not in orbit and so then there's turbulence and it's like well okay well what do we do now and so i think alhamdulillah that you the fact that your innate nature recognizes compassion kindness that these things this is seriously this is the this is what the

entirety of islam is nested this is it in arabic only thing in a nutshell in a very reduced reductionist manner this verse of the quran that uh that this is all really allah is uh

that he is that all comes down to just two things one justice because justice is also a form of isan but a different manifestation that you are providing the rights of a deprived people to them they are seeking justice and it's so important because the world without justice just wouldn't wouldn't work and it's such a fundamental call you know when a person has been wronged they in their heart like their heart cries that they know how they've been wronged

and they so this at the primacy allah says and okay so people can get what they are entitled to they are not wronged and then kindness compassion that's it and what follows on it's an extent it's an explanation of that yes of of just so yeah the fact that you identified that and you and you're right that look there are sometimes some people i refrain from that kind of dawah that was seen i

uh the reason is i do feel that sure people's intentions may be good you know maybe they they love is you know they have a love for the theme but the efforts at times can be misplaced like the love can be slightly misplaced into this thing of let's get people let's you know i have a love for islam i'm going to show islam is strong i will just you know i'll put down other people and i'll have this and sometimes maybe unbeknownst to them maybe they do now but what it brings out this very harsh

hashing this kind of you know in arabic this this side of which is not a side of the faith the prophet salallahu wasn't like that he was not this person look the prophet lived in a warrior society he lived in a warrior society he when when pressed and pushed he fought he fought back he did put he took and he stood his ground but he was never a kind of um you know people see this this this image of not enough the prophet but they have this image of people who are like all

this bravado or all this kind of heart like he would not walk around with a sword and walk around and do things he was very he was very soft with people when he spoke to them they say one of the things about the prophet saw when he spoke to someone he gave them all his attention in such a way that they thought you know what this i i'm this guy's number one that there's a famous incident that somebody was so taken aback when the prophet would speak to him with so much

uh kind of com so much kind of kindness and focus that person thought he was the prophet's best friend and there's an incident where he goes and he and he tells someone that you know and like he says oh guess guess who guess who like he thinks they're gonna say him that he's the the closest and they're just confused that why he thinks that and but this was the this thing of this compassion the prophet was not this this person throwing his weight around like i'm a tough guy or i'm it's not that these things don't work and even if they do work

they work from a fear angle an intimidation the prophet came from a mercy a compassion for the world and it's i had this video as well and i was going to say that this incident where they wanted to come and assassinate the prophet you have the story of ahmadinele and this whole thing and i've spoken about it previously but in that incident the person's calling the prophet to the side the prophet wouldn't know he wouldn't walk around they did people did own the prophet didn't own a sword and did own these things everybody did in that society but he would walk around with these kind of

things and do things like this it was not it was the the prophet's nature see this is the beauty there was such you know people speak nowadays of this balance of yin yang of the of almost the masculine feminine energies this balance they speak of you see that they say that if there's a balance is this this epic harmony in an individual where they are secure with themselves where they are kind and compassionate like they used to say about the prophet that oh he kisses children and like so the the harsh because the

people the arabs thought what what on earth is he doing that's like weakness women do that and the prophet said that this is mercy rahma and the person said to the prophet i've got i think nine children i haven't kissed one of them and the prophet said that that you know allah is rahim and whoever doesn't show mercy then how can they expect mercy from god so this this this nature but at the same time you see there's a famous incident narration in sahih muslim that the there was this

this particular morning there was this uh it was the general culture of the arabs they would wake up at dawn and even non-muslim arabs would it was just how the society was in early just pre-dawn that there was this loud sound so on the outskirts of madina there were these these kind of like like on one side there were these certain kind of woods and things that they had near not the hourly that was further out but on the outskirts of the city on one side and there was this certain sound that many people heard it and they didn't know what it was

and they got scared it was so loud now i'm not sure what it actually was but they narrate that it was this really loud like a bang and obviously this is in that day and age when there isn't machinery and it's like people petrified like what is it what is it and then they they they come out of their homes and they wait and somebody else comes out of his house and this person comes out of his home and they're like did you hear that hear that and they and since i muslim and so and they say then they see a figure it's emerging emerging emerging word it's coming towards them it's the prophet on horseback a horseback without a saddle

that he the hadith mentions that the that the horse didn't have a surgery didn't that the prophet he had already gone and come back he went to check for the safety like that's rahmatan lila you see it's not about you have the compassion but where the time comes the person is firm firm for the well-being of people not in an thuggery intimidation kind of way and i think that's so seriously these hadith are so they're so mesmerizingly uh

you know beautiful and all striking that you get goosebumps you but yeah i uh but shukran those hadiths that you mentioned they're almost like hidden gems you know like we're so caught up in all these loud hadiths these you know at least for me like i was like when i was going through the doubts i was you know i go i search up sunnah.com and i go on all these habits and i search up like keywords and like you know so much to grasp and um just one thing i want to add with what

you said um i think that level of emotional intelligence and and compassion i honestly like i don't know about you but i feel like maybe i'm just not as optimistic right now and where i am in my life but it's hard for me to see that when it comes to like something like religion because like if someone's discussing you know their religious beliefs with someone let's say they're arguing over you know my religion was your religion um i think it's just natural for us to become you know like harsh and like because we become vulnerable to what if we're wrong and

they're right and so kind of when i see these discussions happening maybe at like speaker's corner or like even with myself like as as much as i like it like to admit it when i was going through like my my high in iman every conversation that i was about to have i wanted to like give dawah and talk about islam because i was so passionate about it but one thing and that i noticed was i was so um it was so new to me that if whenever someone disagreed with me or challenged my thoughts or challenged my proofs for islam you know

i would instantly become so like uh defensive and like i would it's almost like i would lose a sense of humanity and i see that i think a lot with these religious um it happens to it's interesting that the quran when it does say that okay fair enough get into a debate it says okay

but only in a way that it's it's better and in in a way that's asan from with the same thing of with goodness because seldom do people ever accept truths in debates like it doesn't it just it has the what they call in psychology the backfire effect that people double down and this is why it's you know you need to be quite very very open-minded to get into a debate with someone and accept what they're saying it almost almost never happens

uh it's an exceptionally rare case almost like a black swan event but the yeah so but you're right and you know often it is the ego and it happens to all of us it's not um you know it's i guess it's human it's creaturely and i remember somebody saying to me that mufti would not do certain because i said that look i don't want to do any debates and things and unless and i said look i'll have discussions on podcast my mind trap people want to come on we can talk we can have a conversation we can disagree we can

but i don't really want to do it portray as a debate because i know that my ego will kick in and and i mean i it's just something which isn't you know even if you it's not sincere at that stage you see because it becomes about just overpowering the other person vocally uh yeah and and you may be able to do that you know you may be able to because you may be maybe you're like i find with me you know it's really weird i mean i've

been debating or like are in that field if you're gonna say for almost what better part of like what 24 years or something so it's not you know when you argue and debate for so long you become so skilled at it and it i find myself you know in a debate in the debate pressure mentally excelling like i will if i was to do you know when i debate people or when i used to on the spot i will come up with answers that i would not have thought of before that discussion right there

and it's just i mean it's sure it's a blessing but it's also i think can get very wrapped up with the ego because you see it's it's very the rush that it will because you will because people are not skilled at debating people are not very intellectually astute in that sense like debating is not just about being intellectual it's about being very witty being on the spot being able to come up with something on them in the moment under pressure being able to recall things under pressure it's not about just knowing things like you can do it but on the

spot is that if those three second goal then the conversation could change or that moment is gone and the person's making a different point now so it's just something which you know maybe some people have it some people don't but it is so wrapped up in the ego that it's not healthy and it's not what iman is about you know it's not this this journey isn't about that um it's better that we converse and sure we could yeah we could have like a low level kind of if people i don't like the word debate but discussion where we could

kind of you know yeah challenge and allow that to to manifest but but yeah i thought no i i really appreciate you coming on sharing your thoughts and um do look and do stay in touch drop me a message on instagram i will look out for um uh your your your profile and i would say that look don't um i i don't know how old you you seem very young how old are you if you don't mind me asking 23 23 yeah very very young yeah 20 years my

junior look at that 20 years ago 43 yeah you know you look you have many chapters to come in your life here many chapters that will unfold events that will uh materialize before you and you know so many great things yet to happen so just you know just just just go with it just go with it like you the the rope that you are holding on to this thing of even kindness within uh

islam this this is you know there's the rope of god that don't just just just don't work don't sweat it don't don't don't you know things there will be turbulence here and there uh it's all good it's all part of the journey and no if you want like if what i'm saying is that if you if you do want to let's say you want to learn a lot you want to go in maybe you want to slow down sometimes maybe you want to it's all good you go with it you go with the flow that you're feeling but don't sweat it don't don't don't don't think look oh uh if i'm not doing such and

such what's my faith like what's this oh my god i need i question my faith need i it is life it is just your faith will be there sometimes some people you know it's like something some things you'd rather have an i'm not this is not an apt uh analogy but you know you have the phrase that some things you'd rather have and not need than need and not have but what that's referring to is some things some people their faith they don't even appreciate it until something hits them in life

and then the faith is this bedrock that rises from this abyss and holds them in place and they think yeah you know like and for that day ev everything that that was so silent invisible to them it was all worth it for that thing in life like it then becomes clear maybe you're just in like i say chapter three of your life and really in chapter seven you start to see wow now i see how all these things fell into place the story was just being built up it was

like a slow burn it was just getting characters into place and you know allah has great things in destined for you i mean so yeah so stay in touch and drop me a message and we'll do that shukran for coming on thank you so much salam people that was atar from canada there is something special about the canadian soil people and its p and its people i'm so uh impressed i don't know how oh what have i done here ah duh what if i don't ah what is this

right okay that's better i don't know what i just pressed there for a moment god the amount of context that could be placed in that caption right okay let's bring on wilkins assalamu are you still in georgia i am indeed i am indeed but not for long on the 3rd of september i shall fly to the philippines yeah oh wow

to the philippines yeah this is [Laughter] first of all what damage have you done in in georgia what's the capital of georgia i'm sure the population is probably i'm worrying the population has gone up since you've been there or it's about to go up within the next nine months it's

like there's a lot of surgical strikes going on which we're concerned about we're all worried for georgia georgia they need they need my genes of course but anyway you know and the fight against object the point is um no it is the capital is tabalisi it starts with the t typically yeah something like that anyway okay yeah and yeah it has a population of one million but apparently like 500

000 russians have come in like immigrated from russia and stuff like that so yeah yeah i said the population is like ballooned up you know um and i've seen this with my own honest kind of thing but yeah yeah yeah it's interesting i'm intrigued with the amount of things you have seen with your eyes i'm sure quite a a tale to tell one of a tutor of the past what he saw you see there's only two other

so he's currently in saudi i've got to bring him on for another mind trap he's another abraham i've lost count of the amount of uh weddings that have taken place cross culturally in different parts of the globe has gone and i just got a video the other day another wedding i was like yes i said really this is your world man we're just living in it that's what you mean if you married women or you getting married

no no he doesn't do temporary he does the full he goes full out does the full wedding and then i think he keeps them or some maybe after a little while they they uh they don't work out or but but he doesn't do the temper he doesn't do the temporary he goes like he goes full in like there's no right i'm like well i admire the formidable commitment you know i am going to the philippines for love at the end of the day so

is there a place where love has not dragged man to is there to the abyss of of the pits of hell it would rather what what haven't people done for love what happened right right i think it is that's a powerful thing honestly like and i don't think it's anything wrong to be moved by love honestly you know no it's not a good thing no no i mean it's a good thing it's a great thing i think it's it's no in my opinion my in my case is not because i have experience you know

did you do this [Laughter] did you say in my case it's not i i'm amazed you can do that i don't think i can do that okay what love teaches you huh yeah yeah yeah actually um i mean i was listening to all those other guests and i i just have a couple of a few comments to say about each show then we'll come back to your love life your love life can wait for a moment more importantly we'll have your comments first absolutely right

absolutely right so the first point is the the dream thing that was so interesting i want to bring in something i've been listening to a person called andrew tate you might have heard of him andrew tates has dominated the world i mean everybody's heard you know like every single person has heard of andrew tates now i was surprised later to me the other day she said oh i was listening to something she said oh is that you listening to andrew tates i was like no wait a minute

and she's only like eight or nine right yeah like yeah it's yeah 10 gonna turn 11's soon i was like you know what ever and somebody told me today we were at an event and somebody mentioned andrew tates and somebody else said who's a teacher at school said our primary school said oh we have to talk to kids about andrew tate because he's a phenomenon and i mean he is it's it's it's andrew you know it's his

like obviously i got introduced to him from people saying negative things about him but then when i actually sat down and watched his interviews and what what he had to say about you know genius but what he actually says is genuine like it's rational what he's saying a lot of just if you guess some of it is he just say wacko stuff as well you just say oh this is how i determine who my friends are i call them here i give them all sparkling water and one said by

sparkling i said yeah and what and he said he's got bubbles and bubbles bubbles he's scared of puppies scared of bubbles get the pee pee pee peep out of here it's like that guy's all fishy no okay i read like there are some things that i do like i wouldn't say envy but i admire honestly honestly i do admire a lot let's let's be real you see the thing is most men the the the power and the kind of audacity that he has like he has money he has physical strength

[Music] he's articulate he has women he has like the guy has fame i mean this and he can say whatever the hell he wants as absurd as it is as crazy as it is and still and nothing and because let's face it i mean the guy it's like all men would they can't help i think even yeah they would they would envy that position that placeholder even if they disagree with the stuff and they dislike even if they dislike the

attitude dislike his message but they they think damn it if only i could have an ounce of that power all right right i mean he says no he says as much himself anyway like yeah like yeah you know like but uh do you think he's gonna fight uh what is it jake paul or what's his name he said he says he wants to he says he wants to know haven't you seen that they've made some clips where they've accepted oh i haven't seen that um but i hope so the older the older brother logan paul logan paul so he's saying the the younger one is saying to him in the clip

that oh with your blessing i'd like to fight him and i don't think he's gonna come and he's gonna chicken out i was like okay this is interesting you know what i'm going to be honest i can't stand them i thought i do find them to just be entitled i like logan paul's local forms fine jake paul isn't yeah okay so i don't really follow them but i just find this annoying nature i i i think i'm going to be honest with you i think if that if that goes down it's going to be spectacular it's going to have so much traction but i feel i'll find myself rooting for andrew tate yeah yeah ksi is going to happen for us yeah yeah

so there's enough that yeah he's gonna he's gonna get him first and they've already agreed on twitter that yeah uh ksi and jake paul so you know also yeah but that's that's different because that's just you see that's just youtubers but this is taking it to another level because so andrew tate has built his whole thing on this macho mm-hmm yeah yeah well uh

but this is the problem with andrew t as well it's the problem is that he is tough not his stuff he has stuff he's been through and and yeah i mean he's obviously very charming as well but he's he's he is tough now this adds that extra layer because you know people let's say somebody's being all cocky online saying all kinds of things somebody would come up to them and be like you know blah blah blah but i doubt it many people would dare to go up to somebody who's been a repeated world champion a trained skilled fighter for that that's his profession that he was just trained to fight

right i mean who the hell wants to go he's only 35 you know he's still young i don't know how old he was but yeah yeah yeah so i just i just can't get over the fact that he's dominated the internet in just a few months it's like five months ago nobody's heard of him yeah and now yeah dominates the god damn internet like you can't open youtube without his video coming up right right it's like you don't even need to search him his videos come up it's like who how did this guy do this it's like what the hell you'd have you could you you know you could be the best

you could be brad pitt or uh you could be tom cruise you don't have that much traction online right you don't have yeah compton goes right yeah yeah he just dominates everywhere it's like what yeah yeah yeah and uh but the reason i brought him up because he had this like he's on this the fellas podcast he's talking with these two youtubers who are both atheists he himself believes in god uh orthodox christian right and he he he kind of he says this very interesting analogy right and i think it's about dreams so try to remember a real event that happened in your life try to remember a

dream right i just want to say oh sorry carry on career no no the pros that's the process of remembering those two things a dream and a real event is a cerebrally different ah right okay you know and so uh the only reason we believe that the real like the real life events is something this is the idea of it right and he comes he brings it bring this back to if believers or people with faith are acting righteously because they believe in god doesn't that make at least god as an idea real that's what he was explaining to these atheists right you know so and i i just want to yeah

that's that's that's a good point i mean it's it's slightly it is an older philosophical argument nested in the ontological argument but it's it's producing it it's that what you're saying is that if people have conceived it's it's i guess it's a a rendition of a different rendition of it because people say well if you could conceive god then he must ultimately exist because the concept of god is perfect and humans are imperfect so by definition they can't conceive something perfect so this kind of argument but this is an uh a kind of another development of that in saying well yeah if ideas have some reality

then there is like there's some reality to you i just wanted to say here look i'm as a as a just to be clear i'm not uh in case you know people might have this question i'm not endorsing andrew tate and i'm not saying that he's a role model he certainly isn't and he says some some he says many many totally dumb outrageous bizarre stuff and he does uh at times he's uh he not at times many times he's utterly misogynistic uh he's very he he looks down on people

poor people he'll have all this kind of stuff it doesn't mean everything he says is bizarre he does say many things which are on point as well and this is why he's obviously i was just saying i'm not saying to people that he follow him don't obviously don't follow him i was saying he's just dominated the whole goddamn like there is no precedent like what he's done is he is a marketing i don't know how he's done it but he's a marketing genius like the guy nobody ever has dominated the internet like it's just like they could be for

example imagine there's an incident and everybody's talking about it because it's an incident yeah that's different that's very fleeting so let's say there's a scandal everybody's talking about it or you had the johnny depp amber heard case and maybe something's happened and everybody's talking about it and but you know you give it a week or two and it's it's old news but this guy has managed to dominate the goddamn algorithm yeah that is a genius move and so that's what i was saying so not to just in case people think look i'm kind of advocating as roma i'm not no i'm

but i do recognize that he's tapped into uh he's tapped into the kind of red pill thing he's also trapped into the fact that there is a decline in masculinity and people are there is a lack of masculine leadership and he's realized that this is like big bucks and it's also a huge fame because nobody's people are too afraid to say things but he's not coming he's not coming at it from that angle though he's coming at it because he actually genuinely thinks it's a real problem

which it is which it is a problem to be fair i do agree with him that and i do like the fact that i liked his term that he said he said i speak about um he said uh because he i think he corrects someone who says toxic masculinity he says it's masculine excellence and i thought i thought why is masculinity toxic that doesn't make any sense so it's resonate you see the the some cool things that he's saying are resonating with people this is why he's he's gaining acceptance but then he's dropping all the bravado

obviously he's dropping bravado non-stop and he can do it because he's this tough guy and he's also like a multi-millionaire and he can do whatever the hell and he's got these you know like he says well they say i don't like the color of your bugatti and he's like here well what color is your bugatti i've got night bugatti but he's like that's what he would come up with you know like yeah but yeah like that like yeah like i mean yeah um but fascinating yeah so i just wanted to bring the i dream thing and about the

uh whenever the sister of harun when i saw that i saw it as god's way of praising maryam because it's a praise it's a it's a former priest so when sophia the wife of the prophet was being teased or insulted about her jewish heritage by aisha i think uh he was he said to her well then say to them your father is harun the prophet your uncle is moses the prophet and your husband is muhammad that the prophet muhammad say to them

because i didn't think of that and now that you say it's it's an amazing so so well said and so apt for the questions of shukran yeah yeah yeah and then yeah um yeah and compassion i mean wow but uh but i guess what i because we started this with the satanic verses right um and uh i just because like for me um i have this desire to memorize the quran of course i do um but that desire had kind of not died but kind of gone dormant because of a few shocks i've had and i want to share some of those shocks

with you and then maybe you can give me some words of i don't know encouragement of but i'll ask i'll explain so you know like um this is coming at a time when i was in manchester i i started to realize that i didn't quite i stopped believing in the sufi stuff i was in a sufi tariqah right i was living in one of those areas in manchester and then i started to realize the soupy stuff is a cult right that's how i see it okay and that's my personal opinion of it right yeah and uh and so i watched this korean drama called save me and it's about the girls family that gets entrapped in the

cult and you see this uh you see the parents of this girl who you know they they they fall in love with or they absolutely just believe in this book that they have you know blindly and a part of me when i was watching that kind of made me think oh what if i'm like that with the quran like you know like you know you know what if i fall into that let's say trap of just believing blindly everything the quran says you know and that part because like investing the time to memorize 6 000 verses it's going to take hours it could take a year of my life to do that right and then it made me think you know should i invest all that time

into memorizing this book in the end so what until that shock kind of or that doubt kind of made me like stop my efforts for for a while i still have this some of the verses that i memorized already but i would like to get back to it honestly my heart wants to get back to it so i guess what i would like to hear from you is because you know you heard the benefits of memorizing the quran for the afterlife yeah that doesn't really resonate with me personally but could because you've memorized the quran could you maybe share with me um some benefits has had for you what what how have you felt that having to go on memorizes has has helped

you has supported you in your life yeah yeah um so right so that's this is a few things there let's taking just briefly taking a look at them so memorizing the quran um it's an amazing beautiful um accomplishment an achievement that is spectacular but it's not something everybody has to do or somebody has to feel that they have to do it's they don't like it's not i think if

like if you memorize the quran if you have a wish to memorize the quran i think that's amazing then do it um if you to me memorizing the quran would be interesting would be on the table or i would i would maybe propose or suggest that for people just as a suggestion if they were looking to study islam at some kind of advanced level or they were looking to do that that they had some kind of a vision to do that

because then it would give them a holistic grounding of the faith because they've been through the whole quran and they've memorized it now even if they forget things but if they do it with meaning and and i did this in one of my i covered the uh when i used to memorize i think in the last meeting with malm uh i kind of went through some of the the tips and the procedures and so if you do it like that with meaning and all these things it will always that the meaning will always stay with you so even if you have to revise words and stuff and and you forget where that verse was or uh but you will the meaning

so if somebody said a concept of something they said oh it says this in the quran you would have a good idea whether if that's right or wrong like you would know more or less immediately no the quran doesn't speak about this topic for example and and even when you mention the the satanic verse it didn't even look like quran you know the word did not did not look like quran at all so anyone with any familiarity with they could immediately recognize that is not

is an arabic word but but the point is even the last two words like uh so i would say look if you feel like memorizing the quran sure that's it's a beautiful amazing uh uh path to be on but if you find yourself look it's quite a bit of a commitment i don't know if i could do it because it is it is a lot it's not like you know it's not something done overnight it would take like intense commitment

yeah if you feel that look this is quite difficult don't you know don't sweat it don't feel that you have to kind of uh you have to somewhat do this you don't um what you could do better than that not in a not kind of juxtaposing it was in better than that but better than that for you in that circumstance is that you could maybe have a gradual reading through the quran at like piecemeal at your pace but with meaning so it could be that you just take a page

whenever you do it and you just go through the meaning and you go through especially if you've learned arabic by that time you just understand and maybe you just check one two things and then move on and you do the next one and sure this doesn't stay as a memorized uh scripture but the meaning is kind of is is somewhat with you so um so i would say that there's always that and if even if that seems so much then one could look one could leave this as in one could allow this to unfold throughout their lifetime

you know it's not if that be then it be you know if it be so then let it be so it's not look it doesn't what i'm saying is that the beauty of islam in is that it is as easy as you are yeah what i mean by that is that it's like like think of it like this you're walking on a path yeah now all of a sudden imagine you're on the same path but you're on a bike and then imagine it was a car now imagine you're walking and you're just

walking and there's this you know the air is as it is it's nice it's pleasant there's scenery you're seeing things now you're on a bike and you feel the breeze the faster you go you feel now in a car that this breeze hitting you is even stronger because you're moving accelerating at much stronger forces velocity so it's much faster and that is almost the the compassion and the beauty of islam with you that you see when you choose to go at certain speeds it is there it is giving you this

but if you slow down you can slow down you know you don't feel that you need to learn all of all of islam i need to memorize the quran i need to do these things take it at your pace that's what i would say and if you feel that you know it's going to be a lifetime and i'll read the quran i'm just going to read one page when i can so be it my one advice would be that if you can learn arabic quranic arabic especially it will

it will change your life and whenever you come back to the quran it will be as mind-blowingly formidable of a force of grandeur as you as it was when you left it that is the beauty you see whenever you hear it it will just pierce through the soul so if you can if you can a person can if they commit themselves to it within six months to 12 months learn arabic especially quranic

with that people let's wrap this up we lost wilkinson in the process let's hope uh that's not an attack from russia may allah protect and preserve our wilkinson um it may have been we don't know what all right there he is wilkins you're back right we got i was just about to wrap this up yeah i'm sorry my internet connection decided to be a bit unstable yeah i thought it was either i thought it was one of three it was either the the russians

it was the internet internet connection or it was either the either another georgian love that heard about your philippine love and just conducted a a mandatory extraction by forces and you're being dragged through the pits yeah but but i heard i think i heard what you're saying in the end like about just letting it like letting this project be a lifetime thing kind of thing if you know if you if it what i'm saying is look it will you go with it as you go like if

you find yourself able to take more to learn more you learn if you find yourself slowing down it's a it's okay you know you right it is a dean as the prophet sallallahu alaihi is to the extent that adino that the deen itself is embodied so that's that's phenomenal yeah we're gonna have to we've come up to five and a half hours this is i'm you know what i i what am i doing uh you just you just love us you just love it

i think that's what it is i think that's right well we'll concern when did you say you're going to uh the third of september what does one not do for love huh look at this whoever she is in philippines and she's dragging out from the hearts from the grips of georgia taking vitara or wilkinson across thousands of miles get yourself over here

ah like a love sick puppy huh [Laughter] he will say i'm gonna say as uh uh what's his name uh abu jafar al-mansoor said about um he said that the man he said yuck he said that he traversed deserts

but he never said he used a different word but he said he he covered these deserts and he he reached a foreign land and he went there and masara amsar and he established cities he landed single-handedly but set up armies and he brought back a whole empire that had left the face of this earth which was bani umayya in in the west now and he said just because of his his kind of his effective planning

and his pure sheer determination what a man huh what a guy so this is what we're gonna hear soon about wilkinson is sheer determination but uh no this is a good episode and uh yeah it was amazing it was amazing to talk with you again yeah likewise always it's a pleasure always right well we have to do this more and we have to set up i know i keep saying this we haven't i've not been doing many of the money we got to do our mind trap as well that's got to be just a spectacular discussion i think so you can go into so many

things you know like it will never end it'll never end yeah yeah yeah absolutely well people with that wilkinson will wrap this up pleasure um people that was wilkinson and i'm going to wrap this up those of you that want to reach out to me you're more than welcome instagram is the place i do for quick questions quick connect it's great it's a wonderful place if you're interested in one-to-one perspective sessions i call them which are one-to-one uh consultation sessions

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