UK Riots & The Power Of Unity | Shaykh Adam Kelwick | MindTrap #73

I'll I'll just await some of you tuning in. if you can like and share. [gasps] Right. It's been a very just a very strange few last few days and especially in the UK and and certain other countries worldwide.

A lot of confusion. [gasps] uh a summer of almost discontent going on, rioting, mayhem, uh rhetoric of hate. It's um attacks, violence, you know, social media, just so much.

a sense of uncertainty, people scared, fear, fear-mongering [gasps] and something as Muslims that we have a message always that one to in good standing to remain steadfast.

And you know one of the most um beautiful duas of that as well is that we have some this this a a standing with steadfastness and good character [gasps and sighs] people in light of this I I'm really pleased to introduce on today's discussion a [gasps] very beloved sh of ours, Shikh Adam Kelwick from Liverpool, right, you know,

in in from the midst of a lot of this mayhem doing some amazing what I feel wahi, you know, uh, groundbreaking landmark work on the ground in Liverpool and other parts of the UK. I've had him previously on a mind trap and this opportunity today I thought you know it's just if the sheh allows us with his time it's an absolute must.

Okay, let me just bring the sheh on. Sheh Adam. Right. One moment. Let me just Sorry. Let me repeat theum. I had the the voice wasn't coming through first. Well, so first and foremost, it has.

It has. It's been a while. It has. And you know I want to say that Shukran first and foremost for taking your time out because I know that you know amidst all this mayhem and you've been very busy. So in in in the best uh you know in the best of ways Allah be praised.

So sh um I want to say before just jumping right into something that you know a lot of with all this confusion with all this going on everywhere false information people speaking of rioting 100 potential demonstrations to take place today on you know on Wednesday the 7th of August suddenly and you know this era of fear you know whilst With all of this in the backdrop on social media, I saw a post and I shared it fondly.

It was by the Metro Press and it said that an imam embraces and hugs a far-right protester and I saw that and wahi it melted me and it was it was you of course uh doing that and I was just so pleased wahi to to see that that this message of love and sincerity and I so that's something that I want to pin straight here and I'll try and bring that up the article as well whilst we speak but she straight just just pin us right to that point whilst all of this

is going on and Liverpool is almost at the heart of this you know there's a lot of uh social media things speaking about Liverpool and yeah and that's where you are the resident imam so so talk to us she what's been [clears throat] uh happening and so through some of these that that hug which I I gave to that man, you've got to remember that he also gave it to me.

Yeah. There were two of us who gave each other a hug. And this has been my point from the very start. So the stabbings in Southport, the tragic South stabbings, they were very close to home. Southport is like a a small seaside town which is just down the road from Liverpool and it's where many people go will go at the weekend just to go on the beach or go on the funfair rides take their kids you know I I go there often with my my family and my kids and they play in the park and on the rides and so Southport and Liverpool are very very closely

attached and then we had that tragic stabbing. Yeah, we saw the chaos what ensued straight after that which personally I think was disgusting for the families for them to have number one gone through everything that they went through with the actual stabbing which they still are not healed from even now. So imagine just like within 48 hours they've gone from one crisis and one tragedy straight into the middle of another which there was so much confusion around at that time.

Can you remember how tense it was? Yeah. Yeah. And their walls were being smashed up and being thrown at police and their property was being damaged and their cars were being burnt out. And this is the same community now who've just lost three little girls who were stabbed by what appears to be a maniac. We still don't have the full information on him. Uh, but that was because or no, I don't think it was because it's it's said it's because misinformation was out there saying he was a Muslim.

I don't think it is because of the misinformation. I think that might have been a a trigger for it, but the reason for it, the the the root cause goes much much deeper. And it's this constant campaign of anti-Islam, anti-immigrant, anti- foreign, anti- other which has been in the media and being pushed for so long now.

It especially during the the general camp uh general election campaigns that was like the highlight of it. It was pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed. the trigger point happened and then people just mobilized and they caused chaos in Southport and then the next thing I know there's an announcement uh some some very low quality kind of [snorts] photoshoppp posters were put together saying that our mosque in Liverpool is going to be the next target and so I'm there thinking okay so the EDL haven't ever really fared very well in Liverpool

Usually when they come from outside Liverpool, they arrive into Lime Street station and train station and the anti-racists are waiting there for them to arrive and then they're chasing them back out again. Like so many times this has happened over the last few years. And the irony is these anti-racists to anybody who's not from Liverpool would assume that they were the EDL protesters in the first place because of [laughter] the way they look, because of the way they dress, and all all the rest of it.

So, so Liverpool has never really been a welcoming place to racists and fascists and people of that ilk. But all of a sudden now there were talks of these riots gathering outside our mosque. Now our mosque is the Abdullahquia Mosque which is the first mosque in Britain founded by a British.

It's witnessed three centuries, three different centuries in this country, the 1800s, the 1900s, and the 2000s. And so, I'm not sure which genius from amongst the EDL decided to choose our mosque as the first mosque to target after everything kicked off in Southport trying to prove a point that Islam has no place in Britain in a mosque which has been here before.

They were a twinkle in their great their grandparents were a twinkle in their great-grandparents eyes. Yeah, it's it's it it really was a bad choice in my honesty. And on top of that, we're a community and a mosque which has been known for flinging our doors open, always having visitors in all the time, having a food bank there serving the community, Muslims and non-Muslims. Uh and we're we're always involved in so much outreach work.

We have amazing links and amazing relationships with all the neighbors in the area. The majority of the neighbors, by the way, are non-Muslim neighbors in that area. Amazing links with them. Liverpool, the Muslim community in general has very strong links with the local council. We have very strong links with with everyone. Alhamdulillah, our our relationships with wider civic society haven't been tested in Liverpool like they have in lots of other cities.

So I hear people complain, you know, about schools and, you know, when issues with schools comes up and education and then there'll be stands off standoffs and clashes between the Muslim community and the uh the the local council and we we've never had that. We've always had good good very good relationships. In fact, I remember once when uh an organization who were based in Birmingham, they were called ICO, the Institute for Community Cohesion or something along that lines.

They were one of the first recipients of prevent funding back in the day, you know, when prevent was really, really toxic. And it was their job to map out the Muslim community. And nobody in Liverpool applied for any prevent any prevent funding. Nobody applied for it and so it got moved on to different parts. The the the the kind of aims what they wanted to fulfill in Liverpool were given off to these organizations in other parts of the country.

Ioko was one of them. And so they come up with this elaborate map of the Liverpoolian Muslim community. And what they did they put our mosques. We're a very united community even as Muslims here. But what they did, they put our box onto this matrix and one of the the the the Muslim Muslim business enterprise service was put in a box next to Shabbab, the Somali terrorist organization [laughter] and Rahma mosque was called a Celifi mosque and this mosque was called this a Sufi mosque and all the rest of it which if it wasn't in Liverpool it probably would have gone down because these people don't talk to each other anyway

and they can't they can't gather together to challenge any injustice done against them. But when we saw this and we're putting all these crazy little boxes and these people have come from outside Liverpool and they want to put us in these boxes and what what happened is that we we raised our concerns and we sat down with the head of the council who who basically based on a phone call invited into into his office. We expect expressed our concerns to him.

We told him, we said, "These people are from out outside Liverpool and they're dividing us and putting us into boxes which we don't recognize. We don't put ourselves into." And he said, "No problem." He took the document in front of us. He scrunched it up and threw it in the bin. He said, "Yeah, we're not going to use this in training our staff." End of. No, but we've we've always had those very, very good links in Liverpool.

And what that means is when these people threatened our mosque, Yeah. the people who came to support outnumbered them like 10 to one. Outnumbered them 10 to one. But let's rewind a little bit. So I remember I was on my way to Bradford when I saw these rubbishes designed flyers that there's going to be protest at the mosque at the mosque.

And the Abdquillian mosque. Yeah. And I just remember thinking, right, so what are we going to do here? What are we going to do? What are we going to do? And I like especially in times of crisis I try to make sure this is just my personal policy that things are principlebased.

What your reactions are they should be based on principles. So it's not about the reaction itself and what reaction you decide on but making sure that that reaction is based upon principles if that makes sense. and my principles in interacting with members of the EDL. I I'm not sure if you know, I think you do. We've had years of experience of sitting down with these guys and we've invited them in different cities across the across the country over the years.

Nobody's ever really recognized the work. But now they're they're starting to look and saying, "Oh, yeah, it actually works." All the naysayers have been saying, "No, no, you can't speak to these people. You can't talk to them. They're full of hatred. You won't get any. They hate you. Oh, they're nasty people." and and we're like, "No, we we sit down with them on a regular basis and they come in and they're a bit angry at first. They start shouting and then you calm down and then you have your questions and then you realize you're all human and by the end of the night you go over to the table and you drink tea and coffee and have some biscuits and every single time we've done this mufty, every single time

miracles happen within one interaction. We're talking about an hour 90 minutes. Within that time of interaction, the vast majority of the people who come into this forum with hatred in their hearts are, no pun intended, converted, not to Islam, but to understand that, you know what, it's not as simple as it seems on these online Islamophobic forums.

Yeah. There's there's something different going on. And we we've literally seen miracles. So I said, okay, so so what's the key there? What was the principle in our interactions with those people when when there was no talk of riots? And I remember those interactions were always based on the Quranic teaching. Respond [clears throat] with what is better.

Yeah. And then we have the promise from Allah straight after that that the one between you and he who is enmity you have this enmity between you it will it will be as if he is your close or intimate friend and literally every single time and including our interactions outside the mosque that that's what happened. We literally made friends. The guy who you saw me hugging on that picture we literally made friends.

He took my number. I took his number. He said he wants to come back to the mosque when we open it up and he wants to he wants to meet the the Muslim community. Oh, he came down to probably burn the mosque. [laughter] He came down to destroy the mosque and we burned and we destroyed his anger and his hatred. But how? Burgers and chips. [laughter] I have to say today the whole country really stood up to this, you know, this message you you see all over social media all these different cities.

uh so many people the anti-protest protests that had come the kind of anti- rioting protest in saying that you know we stand united that no to racism that we claim back this country as all of us this came through so powerfully and beautifully and and and I think that it's something that really I mean in the face of what was so combustable so flammable able and it comes to you know this thing of one the message of humanity but two this thing of also like you're saying look

okay so what are the concerns look there's going to be some people that are just you know there to kind of fan the flames to add fuel they're just bigoted yeah you're going to get all of that you know and you're going to get a a good number of people who are genuine in their concern and it's been misdirected did you know it's been uh wrongly used by people almost hijacked the emotions have been so I you know yeah tell us a bit and in light of that if I could look there's a comment here I'd like you to respond to this in light of that somebody's said can you can you see that you said

right I've just got the comments so it says so it says they're just chavs everyone in the UK says so right so that now you see That's so in light of what you're seeing, people saying comments like this because the you have to remember that this the thing that began this particular stream of unrest was this tragic killing of these children and and there is this obviously there's a lot of sentiment there's a lot of people feel that we can't ask some

questions now you Okay, migration is an issue for for people. They've got this concern. Then there is obviously there's going to be racism among certain people. There will be bigotry, but there's going to be a lot of things going on and and then the misdirection. So, but there are people who have got genuine concerns that that you know did not want this to go in this direction where people are getting attacked and where people are getting um you know cars burnt and and all this kind of horrid uh what I would say is terrorist

activity that's been going on but yeah she talk to us a bit about that please I can share a real life example of it which has happened uh today in fact it's kind of developed again today so after the protest outside the mosque was diffused and after we invited everybody back and seriously some very very strong friendships were made on that day right and everybody always says even to be honest when I wanted to do this some people I won't mention their names within the committee were phoning me up trying to pressurize

me to take the video down saying that we will receive you at our mosque we're going to look after you come to our mosque you're our guests this is what I said you're our guest we're going to treat you like guests oh they wanted to take that worried they thought they yeah they thought People are scared as well. We got to understand that people were scared. Yeah, I understand. But obviously we we we did uh cooperate or coordinate, shall I say, with the police.

So the police actually told us two times, "No, we're not going to let you do this." Then I went out and I spoke to the the the officer who was uh coordinating their response. And I said to her, it's really important that our community is allowed to do this when the situation is right, when it's calm enough, because you can't do anything while while violence is is is going on. So, you do have to wait for a for a calm kind of window of opportunity, of course.

And then it did calm down. We waited three hours, in fact, for it to calm down. Three hours. It's a long time. And then we just stood there waiting and waiting and waiting. And our guys were stood there waiting and waiting and the odd chant against each other. and then we went over. But anyway, the day after that, that's when the real chaos happened in Liverpool when Adam wasn't there. [laughter] So, actually, I was there.

I was invited to an anti-racist rally at St. George's Hall and I addressed the I addressed the crowd there and everybody was telling me that they were they were very moved by my words and in amongst my words I was trying to raise awareness with them who by the way were predominantly kind of like white non-Muslim people who'd come to show their support against racism. Yeah.

Uh but I I tried to remind them also that there are human beings on the other side. I knew they were in I knew they were in the their ranks. I knew for a fact that the concern that they had was genuine. So you got to ask and I'm not talking about the violent thugs. The violent thugs are just opportunistic just vandals, right? But I'm talking about other people who were dragged into that because of the power of the narrative what was out there.

Yeah. They see that a situation is bad and they want to make it good. Now, even if their understanding of the situation is based on ignorance and false information and Islamophobia and all the rest of it, yeah, it's that's still their intention and that that's a beautiful intention. They're going to do something to change a bad situation into a good situation. Do you see what I'm saying? I'm not defending them here. I'm saying it's all allance, right?

But I knew and I spoke to the anti-racist rallers and I said to them, just bear that in mind because we'd seen the interactions the day before. the mosque. We saw how people spoke to us and listened to us and they were really calmed down and then they became not a threat anymore. So what happened after the anti- rally uh the anti-racism rally is all of these people flowed down to the pier head which is where the save our children rally was happening.

So look at the name of the rally save our children. Save our children. Yeah. They think that their children are under threat and they want to go there to save them from all of these different threats, whatever they might may be, whether it's pedophiles or grooming gangs or rapists or or stabbers who've just come over on a boat from Syria illegally, blah blah blah blah blah. You see, so they've got all these narratives going on. And just for the record, the day before while we were at the mosque, uh one of the protesters said to me, "Yeah, they find out that he wasn't even Muslim after all." And one of the other protesters said to him, "No, he was he was it was Muslim." He said, "Allahbar, Allahbar

before they stabbed him." So even within those circles, a lot of people are still believing that misinformation. What's out there? Very, very powerful words. You know, in Arabic they say once you hear the same lie 70 times, it casts a spell upon you. It bewitches you. You'll start to believe it. They say even the person who tells the same lie constantly will eventually believe it.

They'll believe it themselves. Subhan Allah. And so this is the case for a lot of the people out there. Uh I went down with the anti-racists. I was there for 5 to 10 minutes max. I could smell in the air that there was no good coming from this protest. We weren't going to be building bridges here. I could just feel the tension in the air. and I and I went back home and within an hour all chaos broke down.

Shops were being looted, police were being thrown off their motorcycles. It it it just all went to pot. After that, after that, I received a message from one of the main people who was rallying support and encouraging his followers to attend that rally. He reached out to me. He sent me a message on Instagram and he said, "A lot of people have come to me and they've [clears throat] said I should speak with you." He didn't know you from before.

He didn't know. No, no, never known him before, but you got to understand who he is. I won't mention his name, but he's an ex MMA fighter. He has a lot of influence in the gyms and the martial arts studios across Liverpool. Okay. He has a lot of respect on the streets. Fair enough. And he has a lot of people that that will will will kind of come to his call and they did on that day. A lot of people who were there were there because of him telling them.

I went for a coffee with him and during this cup of coffee he said to me he said to me I'm not a supporter of Tommy Robinson. I'm not a supporter of Tommy Robinson. The reason people are now accusing me of being EDL. I'm not EDL. He said the reason I went there to that march and he said and I I regret being there now with my people and I'm I'm not gonna I'm not going to send them again. That's what he said.

Deescalation. Alhamdulillah. He said my daughter my daughter was in a dance summer dance club when we heard that news from Southport. So, he's heard a story of random innocent little girls being stabbed to death in a summer dance club. What's the first thing he's done?

He's seen his own daughters in their position. And now he feels there's a threat. If it's happened in Southport, why couldn't it happen here? You see, and then the defensive nature within him has pushed him to get all of his supporters to do come and do something about this. He said to me, "I'm not a racist. I am not a racist." He said, "I have a lot of Muslim boys who are in my gyms and who are in my martial arts classes and it's I don't like the way that things went and they turned into violence." And he said, "I'm not going to be there again." So, these are the quote unquote chavs who some people are commenting about here.

Yeah. He reached out to me. Don't forget, he reached out to me. After that, after that we had a 90-minute discussion on a podcast which he arranged for me and that was with other people who were seem to be kind of figures in the far right circles. One of whom, by the way, is very influential in the United States. And we had a 90-minute discussion. We discussed so many issues.

And at the end of this discussion, there was like a light bulb moment. And we all looked at each other like this. It was uh I want to see how it comes across on camera because it was recorded. I really want to see this moment. Okay. It's like we all look at each other and then we we realize we're being played. We realize somebody is setting us against each other here and scousers are wise people. Scousers are wise people.

And I think that's what's happened in Liverpool. I think they're on to it now. I think they've realized people have tried to play kind of divide and for the rest of the country because I I don't think the rest of the country are as wise as Scousers if I'm honest. However, [laughter] however, all the wisdom in Liverpool and then that and then that was kind of uh reinforced this evening when there were several threats of protests online spreading again in these groups which I believe is I think the or I I no think I I I believe the organization the logistics behind these groups and are a

top down hand. it's not from the grassroots. And speaking of that, you know, one of the things that has really come to the, you know, the forefront in a in a lot of this is these influential people, people like Andrew Tate, people like Elon Musk as well in this who so irresponsibly have been just spreading, you know, um with, you know, this either just direct hate or incendiary kind of uh remarks which are further um just emboldening

this whole thing this whole crisis happening. Elon Musk I mean it's so uh irresponsible for a person who's so intelligent and you know a businessman I I can only assume that he is intelligent and he knows exactly what he's doing exactly. So you have and for him to be constantly almost egging on this civil war uh saying things like oh you know a civil war is inevitable in the UK and or maybe he's just flexing his muscles to the politicians who constantly oppose him to let them know just how much influence he really has he really has and a bit of a warning to them letting them know don't mess around with me.

Yeah, but I mean whatever. I've just been on to X now. Twitter. I Let me see if it works. So, this is my mobile phone. Watch. I'm going to go on to X right now. Can you see it? You see it? Yeah. I'm going to scroll down. And then it's going to recommend to me who to follow. Yeah. Slightly raise your phone. It's gone just beneath the camera. I'm just going to get to the part where it recommends who to follow.

I'm not sure if you want to do this live shift just in case it gives other recommendations. Oh, no. I don't mind. I've got nothing to hide. Don't [laughter] worry. Check my search history. Check it just in case you accidentally expose yourself. I think I'm one of the few people in the country who I'd be willing to [laughter] publicly share my search history. That is a sign of Would you do that [laughter] to?

Yes. Shall we exchange them? Yeah. [laughter] The point is it didn't it didn't work right now. It never does. But do you know where there's a section and it says people who to follow? The first suggestion what's coming up for me is Tommy Robinson. Nope. Why the hell in a time? Why are you No, he's being promoted. His his account is being promoted from within the algorithms of of of X. It's disgusting at a time like this.

Yeah, it's crazy. So, you're seeing that. I've really I hope as well many people can see the damage that Andrew Tate has done as well in this. There you go. Can you see that? It says who to follow. See, and the first person who comes up is Tommy Robinson. What the hell? What the hell? Tommy Robinson. It's happening everywhere now. Everybody's going to be receiving the same suggestion. Follow Tommy Robinson.

Follow Tommy Robinson. Follow all around the world. He's being promoted. His account is being promoted. Yeah. I mean, what what [gasps and sighs] damn, you know, it's just I don't know. What is What is the game here? What is what do you cuz I mean I I I get I think there are sever I think there are several games being played and I don't think much of it has to do with the Muslim community but the Muslim community are very conveniently being scapego scapegoated and targeted because of it.

I think there's a lot of power politics at play between the different uh parties within the UK amongst themselves. I think certain politicians and certain parties are flexing their muscles and making these stances. I think this has got something to do with, you know, there's a I've seen a few social media posts highlighting um how the UK politicians have recently um stepped away or at least somewhat removed their support to Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu.

And some people are saying, well, uh is this in turn a kind of a shakeup to destabilize or just to show you how you're saying flexing muscles in showing? Uh I've seen a few I've actually seen a few uh you know some kind of uh news articles. What we should do what we should do when we hear things like that is we shouldn't do exactly what the other side are doing and then jump to conclusions and we should we should research it.

We should look into it and see if there's any any legitimacy behind it and once we find that there is legitim legitimacy then we can raise awareness of it. Yeah that's very responsibly said. No that's so true. Yeah, I mean on on on the other hand with where we are seeing things being said clearly, somebody said here that look uh they mentioned Andrew Tate again. Um there was a I caught a glimpse of Pierce Morgan and you know Andrew Tate.

I don't really want to watch the whole thing, but I I do. I do. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it. I I haven't had time, but that that's one I really want to watch because they've in the past kind of been seen as friends. And I think maybe this one is not Oh, yeah. He's he he he was he was grilling him. Pierce was grilling Andrew Tate, rightly so. And he and he says to him, the part I did see is he says to him that look uh with what you're saying recently, you know, with all this recently, the Muslims in the UK see you as part of, you know, as Yeah.

They see you. They, you know, they are against you. They they totally at loggerheads with. So he's having a go at him. And Andrew Tate is trying to say, "Oh, as a uh mixed race Muslim and as a, you know, he's trying to he's trying to constantly present himself as a Muslim and trying to say, "Oh, I'm just I don't know why people No, I don't believe so. I believe Muslims still support me and all this nons." What's the definition of of of a Muslim according to the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam?

The one who keeps people safe from his tongue and from his Yeah. From from his hand. Yeah. From and that's the And so if anybody inspire is inspired to make that claim that I'm a Muslim, I'm a Muslim, I'm a Muslim. I'm not questioning people's shahada, by the way. But I'm saying if somebody wants to realize their identity as a Muslim then that is the key characteristic that the people the people not it's not Muslims are safe no it's people are safe from his tongue and from his hand

and I have to say that you know 2024 um has been a year in which a lot of these glass glass idols have been smashed you know these uh even there's been like certain colors of people have come to the forefront including people like um Jordan Peterson including now Elon Musk Andrew Tate who had a lot of support from a huge amount of support from the Muslims but you're just seeing like as time is progressing a side which I don't know with some of them whether it was always there like Elon Musk or is it

just recent I don't I don't know, but these are people like Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson and you know his horrendous tweet about Gaza in in you know when this whole atrocity began this genocide. Uh these were people who I was like I used to think oh wow you know Jordan Peterson like the way he stood against atheism and the way you know I I held him in in this kind of sense of awe and even Elon Musk I used to always think wow you know somebody who thinks out of the box and somebody who who's thinking in such a you know kind of lateral thought and thinking planetary

kind of travel and all of this stuff and and I I I was very in awe of these figures and then I see this stuff and I think you know at on the ground cuz this is the thing you know Islam and you're very much involved in this practically uh you know on a practical on the ground Islam it is not about you know a person's personal worship is their personal worship the message is one of humanity it is one of rahma isn't it that this rahal that even when the prophet is, you know, he's in Medina, he comes to Medina, he's

the Muslims, there isn't this the the bond is there, but it's, you know, maybe it's not as strong as it should be. And maybe there's an ear of we don't know apprehension and and what does the prophet say? He says, uh, he says that why don't you go around feeding people? Why don't you go around just spreading peace? Not just humanity. This is what it comes to.

I mean, visions and all of these things and you know, we can love them, but it comes down to being a a a decent and a a human being in the meaning of the word. Yeah. The best of human beings. Sallallahu alaihi wasallam. This is it. It's it's it's all in the prophetic example. But people unfortunately they they have to realize that the the messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihi wasallam he was the strongest and he was the bravest and he was the the the hardest upon oppression and mashallah he he was the best person who who's ever

existed. He's our example. But they also have to realize that he was the most merciful. He was he showed the most clemency which mercy clemency uh humility uh what what's the other one uh bashfulness these are characteristics of men which in today's culture are looked down upon and seen almost to be feminine within within the circles of masculine men let's say however the messenger of Allah sallallaihi wasallam we're told is the prototype he's the

he's the blueprint when it comes to to being a man so what's gone wrong what is your understanding twisted or is it the understanding of the prophet sallall alaihi wasallam like I I said to people in our community I've said I'll tell you what happened today so I walk away from from a bunch of youths and and tell them to throw their weapons away if they've got any because if they go down to prison I'm going to visit them in prison and I'm going to have a go at them for bringing shame on our community's name.

So after I finish with them lot Muslims, I'm walking down and I found out I found out there's another gang of Muslims in this building here in this community center and they're ready to set on all these races. Right. So I walk into this community center, first time I've ever walked in, I find out they're all from uh from uh a particular country and background. Uh I walk in and I assalam alaykum I give salams and I know the way their community works.

I know the way their culture works. And this is important as well. You have to understand who you who you're talking to and who you're dealing to. I didn't speak to anybody. I said, "Where's your sheh? Where's your elder?" So they said, "Oh, he's here." They took me to see the sheh. I sat down with the sheam sheh. How are you doing? Built some bridges with him. I said, "Listen, she these young people here, we need to stop them going out onto the streets because I can see they want to be violent. I can see they want to be violent." He said to me, "I've told them five times." He said, "I've told them five times, but that it looks like they're not listening to me." I said to him, "There's a trap out there.

There are people who are waiting for young people in our community to respond to violence with violence and to respond to thugery with thugery. Then they're going to capture them with their mobiles. They're going to upload it on social media and they're going to say, "Look, we told you that Muslims are bad people." Yeah. And so he came out, imagine the sheh next to me and I'm and I'm here and I'm speaking and they're translating to to to their language and uh I finished giving them a reminder and one of the things I mentioned and this is talking about the clemency and the mercy of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is the famous story what everybody knows but they don't see how to take the

lesson. A man comes into the mosque of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam and just for emphasis I'm going to say it this way and starts pissing on the wall. He relieves himself in the mosque of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam and the sahaba are there. They're furious. They want to they want to put this man in his place. Who does he think he is? This isn't any mosque.

This is masid and sallallam. And in front of the prophet he he he's doing this. And how does the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam respond? First of all, how would we respond? One of these EDL guys comes into comes into your mosque and he starts really bringing it home actually. You know, imagine an EDL guy relieving relieving himself in the corner of the mosque. What what what you going to do? What did the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam say to the companions who were about to go over there and chop his head off?

What did he say to them? He didn't just say leave him. He said let him finish. Finish. Yeah. Because in the hadith he said I don't let let him finish. He's already kind of done it. Let him let him finish. What strength is this that the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam has?

This is not weakness. This is the highest level of strength. He says let him finish. And then the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam shows even more strength when he takes the water pot over in his own blessed hands and goes over and starts to clean up after this man. What leadership is it? But one lesson we can take here is that the the the kind of the sin for abusing somebody who's abusing the masid is greater than the sin of abusing the masid in the first place.

Do you see? So now we've got all these people who want to quote unquote defend their mosques and they're just going to make a mockery of themselves. They're going to make a mockery of our our religion and our faith. They're they're falling right into the trap what the far right have set and it's it's not going to end well. But the point is the point is we find the perfect character in the messenger of Allah. Don't don't forget also if ever there was a disturbance in Medina.

You know one time the Sahabah mentioned that there we we we heard a loud noise on the outskirts of a Medina and we rushed there and we found the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam there. He was there before anybody else. He was the bravest bravest of people. They say that we rushed out in Sahi Muslim and they're looking at each other that what's the what caused that? And at the outskirts of Medina there was like kind of like almost like a forestlike part but they say that they see the prophet returning horseback and it was like that yeah he had already come back and said he said it's nothing he said I I went and that's

and that is you know when you were just saying that as well that what if somebody and you know this example of saying like bringing it right home imagine an EDL member did that like that makes it so real right now given the current climate of what's going on in the UK that who is going to say leave him let him finish who's going to say that today the amount of it's not just restraint but the amount of selfseurity a person has how grounded they are in themselves in their faith in their standing that I

don't feel in any way that you know belittled by this action like I don't feel that oh if I don't act in aggression what will people say I don't feel that you know he's already began so let him finish you just said something really powerful then you said what will people say yeah because that's not what the de's about it's what will Allah say yeah exactly but people but this does plague the minds of of so many people that what will that if like you take that example there is one the actual

rage so so there's almost this kind of meta consciousness going on so one we are conscious of our own rage like somebody imagine you gave this example somebody coming in now rier and taking a leak in the masid so there is our rage that how dare you taking a leak that's what I should have said sorry I apologize say say that again taking a leak that's what I should have said I apologize Yeah. But uh no no and so there's our rage that how dare you violate our sacred space and you know insult us and then there's the second thing where people are also aware that look like let's say I'm watching this that what will people say if I don't now

absolutely smash his head in as a reaction what will people say people say oh so there's there's like a meta we can't deny that there will be a consciousness an awareness your own rage and then also Well, what will how is my you know I need to react in a certain way as well. So the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam being so grounded in his own standing that none of that matters.

None of it you know against that that momentary judgment of his companions. You know their rage which in their own right may have felt justified but the prophet leading by example that no no. Well then again you talk about justified rage and on a different occasion the prophet asked the companions do you know who a shaded is do you know who the tough man is the strong guy and they were asking is it the one who is able to overcome the other one in a wrestle and the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam said no the shid the true hard man and this is what I've been saying to the youth today from the Muslim side

this is these are the words of The truthful one who doesn't speak from his own desire. Yeah. He said the strong one is the one who can suppress their anger when there's a reason for it. So even when anger is justified, if you're a strong person, you will be able to suppress that. A weak person lets their anger loose.

Just go fight, throw some fists. You're a weak person. That's that's that is not a strong person. And it's the most difficult thing to do. Because I'm sure you know Muisab this concept of selfimprovement and identifying my flaws as a person whether that's anger whether that's uh envy whether it's any one of these illness these hidden illnesses which exist inside us which can't be covered by clothes.

Yeah. uh can't be hidden by clothes and uh it's it's a really really difficult thing to do and especially if somebody's not had experience of being trained up in that in you know how can you manage your anger? How can you suppress your anger? How can you uh fight feelings of envy and jealousy when you witness them within you? How can you uh stop yourself from having these doubts in Allah subhanana wa ta'ala?

How can you? The list goes on and on and on. Uh but the point is it takes a very very strong person to do that. And so there was one interaction at the mosque when the protesters came. And this was uh a woman who I could tell had had been through a lot of trauma. The way she was acting was very erratic. She came up to me, she had her mobile phone in her hand and she comes up to my face like this and she's saying, "So so uh how old was your prophet when he married Aisha?

and how old was she? And and she's just like coming straight on to me. What I did at that point, she she cursed my prophet, she cursed my mosque, she cursed my community, she cursed everything what's important to me. And I remembered that I had to respond the way that the messenger sallallahu alaihi wasallam would respond. And I just stood there and I'll be honest, it hurt. What she was saying hurt me. But I knew that strength right now for me to be a strong person right now.

Yeah. is to just stand there and not react and then when she calms down try to interact with her at a level and see how that works. She finally calmed down. I finally started to deal with her reasonably cuz she was dealing with me very very unreasonably and I responded to her reasonably and I think that startled her. I don't think anyone's ever done that to her before because she came to attack me and she didn't receive an attack back.

And it it was very very strange for her. So then she turned away from me and started having a go at some Muslim sisters about you're oppressed. Why don't you take your hijab off in solidarity with the women in Iran? Look, you're oppressed. And the sister obviously she she starts shouting back, I'm not oppressed, you're oppressing me now. Don't tell me what to wear and not what to wear. I choose to wear them. But you see the difference in the interaction. the some of the sisters were like boom fighting back straight away.

But Allah says be better. and and you know and and some of the cases we had here because in Birmingham there was um you know situation became uh almost you know combustible and flammable that there was all there were these rumors that you had uh this week saying that look oh you know just yesterday that oh they're going to turn up and they're going to turn at such a such and such location and and many Muslims gathered and you can imagine people covered up face faces covered and you can and you know some people are ready to the the situation is too

flammable. I mean people may be carrying weapons they mayile all sorts very volatile like tonight in particular it could have gone anyway. Alhamdulillah. [clears throat] You know there's that inki where yeah he says that that Allah you know saved us from the harm and evil of it.

There was an incident here in Birmingham with a pub where people had gathered the clumsy swan and an individual I I think he egged, you know, egged on some of the uh the kind of anti-protest crowd that had gathered and anti-EDL and some of the Muslim lads and and and he' got jumped and beaten up and and I think some parts of the pub may have got damaged, but the response because that's something that could have suddenly just exploded.

did. But the response was so powerful that you know Muslims stepped in. Uh certain Muslim representatives went to the pub. They you know they clarified they explained the local masid contacted the pub. They offered to fix any damages. They offered to I mean the pope was so that they made a post saying sharing this themselves saying that look we've been contacted by midb and they actually barred the individual who [laughter] was in the pub and I I think that's a beautiful example are all these riots and incidents just

full of irony at every level is it bringing people together ironically in a certain as well as freaking the hell out of them and well I've been saying is I don't want things to go back how they were. We we've entered into a new chapter now. We're not going to go back to how we were before the riots. Now, this is it. We're going to start to keep building these bridges. We're going to keep these links of communication going with all these people who've expressed their support to support our mosques and be there for us.

All the people on the other side who who've now realized that you know what, I want to I want to I want to reach out to these people. I want to sit down and and I want to talk to them. We've entered into a new phase now. So, whoever was out there plotting and planning to turn us apart. They I I they probably won't do this again. Yeah. You know, they can plot all they want, but Allah is the best of planners.

And so, that is, you know, it's wow. Uh if anybody I I' you know, if you're okay with this, she I'd like to share a link if anybody wants to join on for any quick Let's do that. But before that, we've got a very very important question. Adam Kellwick is a Pakistani with English. I was just about to bring this up here. I was going to say, look, there's a Before I do that, you've read my You are in I was going to say before we do that, he's he's spelled Michael wrong and he's not much of a bad man, is he?

[laughter] So, Miel Batman has said Adam Kelwick is Pakistani with English name. What is this man? What is this? Huh? [laughter] you infiltrated. I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not a Pakistani. I don't say that with pride. I have a lot of love and respect for Pakistanis, but I'm not Pakistani. And just for the record, Kelwick's not even an English name. It's originally got Irish origins, but there you go.

But yeah, just a bit about yourself, Shikh, to people who don't know. Let's let's get back to the riot. Okay. Okay. Cool. But I have got I've got a mind trap. It's been a while with Sheh Adam Kelwig. And if you do check that, I'll also share the link to it. Uh we go through the whole kind of journey of Sheikh Adam who is from mixed heritage and so you know it's and he's not Pakistani.

Nope. But a good guess and she's journey for the Pakistanis. Allah Allah Allah Allah Allah but and his uh you know his journey back to Islam and then to to studying Islam and and traveling. So do check that. It's going to be definitely something. And Sheh's also done uh a lot of work in the prisons as well. I don't know if you're still doing that, Shikh. Are you still that was previously?

To be honest, uh I've I've kind of been thrown back into the deep end with what's going on recently because I can imagine. As you know, I've been doing a lot of international work and so because I've been traveling so often, I've been following your thing. Yeah. Because I've been traveling so often, a lot of the the kind of on the ground dayto-day work in the Muslim community, I've kind of slowly stepped away from it and I've just been thrown way back in the deep end.

And all the mosques are saying, "Come on, come and give us come and give us classes. Come and give us this." And and uh it's it can be a difficult it can be a difficult thing to balance. Uh alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. Allah bless you and bless this journey. Right. I'm going to share this link. This is this is my motto. No rest for the I like that one. I like that. And I want everyone listening never say never say the other version ever again.

No rest for the wicked. No, no, no. Rest for the blessed. Alhamdulillah. I like that. No rest for the blessed. There you go. Look. [laughter] That's blessings in in Arabic. It works. Keep moving. Keep moving. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if anybody does want to share some thoughts or uh I've shared a link there you go it's uh you can just click that but yeah wow so this is it sh you know the whole um maybe you know sometimes they say things you know to get better they get slightly worse and maybe that's

what what this was uh but it just goes to show the power also of misinformation. information. And that's not to say that, you know, there wasn't already emotions and things buried, but the misinformation that can uh, you know, bolster that, that can be like a nitro boost and and take people, it's amazing because, you know, God forbid, if in this scenario, um, let's say this this this attacker, you know, this, uh, wretched criminal, I don't don't know much about him apart

from what they've shared so far that he's Britishborn of uh kind of Ugandan um sorry Rwanda origins and he's but he's not a Muslim and none of these rumors were true but but if they were I mean you know let's say it was a um you know a Syrian somebody born of Syrian origin or he'd come to this country a few years ago um or he was a Muslim, you know, from, I don't know, Pakistan, Afghanistan, or he was from Iraq, or whatever, but he was a Muslim, God forbid.

And and what if he was shouting Allah Akbar while he committed? I mean, look, just two three weeks ago, I think it's been three weeks, you had the incident on nation, you know, nationwide on TV with with who was a white man and he he's carrying this crossbow when he's kind of shot this black kid. Do do I don't know if you remember that murdered him. Um, now that's only in the last, you know, couple of weeks that that incident happened.

And it didn't mean that people would say, oh, this was, you know, oh, because this white guy shot, you know, this black kid with uh a crossbow that people, you know, they're going to gather around and target people. If this had been a Muslim that had done this and he had yelled, you know, God forbid Allah's name and this is another thing, you know, people should not be using, we don't have this concept in Islam of don't take the Lord's name in vain in that sense, but they shouldn't be using, you know, Allah Akbar is a beautiful praise.

It should never be said almost in so as to, you know, in this kind of like a dark light, you know, where people kind of mask up. Yeah. Like where you turn up in an incendiary kind of setting where I'm kind of all scary and I I've come here wearing balaclavas and I say Allahbar. I'll tell I'll tell you what what what you could equate it to. Now, many members of the farright and this seems to have come over from the states recently are shouting Christ is king at their at their rallies.

Okay. Christ is king. Christ is king. Have you not come across that? I've not come across. You're you're going to hear it a lot more over the next few months. Inshallah, you won't, but that's the expectation. [laughter] Uh, and a lot of Donald Trump supporters have been shouting it. I know it was the American uh blogger, I just forget her name. She's a black lady, but she's she's very conservative.

Oh, Candace, not Candace Owens. Yes, Candace Owens. Candace. Yeah. So, she was brought down for saying it continuously and they accused her of being anti-Semitic because what they were saying is by her saying Christ is king, they were attacking the fact that Jews rejected Christ, if that makes sense. But anyway, that's a that's a different discussion for but these people now in the far right, they're out there shouting Christ is king. They're not shouting it to glorify Jesus.

They're shouting it to make a political point to the the the other side of the of the the the protest. And I think we should have wisdom. At the same time, when when people are are there publicly calling, there was the MP today publicly calling for shouting Allah Akbar to be ped banned in public. I want to go out there in public and shout it. Yeah.

I want to shout it. It comes from the ad. It comes from the minouetses in the Muslim countries five times a day. Every time we pray, we say Allahbar. It's like, but again, it's back to education. Let's educate them what it even means in the first place and educate them that one of the ways that Jesus, peace be upon him, in his native Aramaic, would have praised God would have been to say Allah Akbar in Aramaic. Subhan Allah.

All right. Is is that how it would be in Aramaic? Allah Allahbar. Okay. uh there's less of a shed on the on the the lamb in Aramaic. So it's Allah almost like the the way the English say Allah or it's like a Subhan Allah. Okay. [snorts] You know they were they were chanting who the f is Allah. Who the f is Allah? The f is Allah.

Yeah. Well come to our mosque and we'll come into our mosque and we'll teach. What was because on cuz you know on one hand you had who they were saying like who the f is Allah? Who the f is Allah? And the Muslims on one of the march was saying Allah who Allah and it sounded almost like aikar gathering because they were saying who say Allah who it [laughter] was quite a spectacle.

Yeah. So but yeah so how how do you see things going forward now? How how do you think that's it now? We seem to have reached the pinnacle and because some some harsh sentences were were handed out to themized and the police were putting out you know the different did you see that image with the different amounts of time you'll get for the different crime they made it into like a I haven't seen the charter or anything so so I think people realize now it's yeah I've been following the sentencing and and that the announcement that by the end of the week they will be sentenced I mean that's how rapid that Karma I watched his uh uh briefing today

where he said that that the sentencing that he's called on they've obviously they made hundreds of arrests and they're being charged but he said sentencing by the end of this week and I've also seen some posts saying they're having their benefits cut. I don't know the authenticity of it but I've seen a few posts saying that they're having their benefits cut as well from the DWP. So yeah, I feel that you know I I love the uh the swift justice that is is is being shown and more than anything honestly I really uh you know it's a proud moment for us all really as Brits to see how

Britain has stood united just seeing those photos today I saw so many photos from so many cities you know from Northampton from Walthamto from Birmingham from you you name it there were so many today that I was seeing city after city standing united um you know people of all color that we're above this kind of superficiality and we won't be played you know coming back to what you're saying sh that we will not be played that you know you can't just people are more intelligent than that and alhamdulillah that's to see um there is

like I said we've seen we've seen that in reality in tonight when threats were made in Liverpool of protests. The main one which was mentioned was uh an immigration support center which ironically is run by a Christian priest. Uh but yeah, no, nobody turned up from that side. There were reports of cars driving past and like scouting, but hardly anybody nobody turned up. Nobody turned up. And in fact, I I reckon I V because I I was walking up and I reckon I saw some of the younger ones, just the younger ones who were going for a fight in the crowd with the uh counter supporters.

Okay. And I I went up to them. I said, "Oh, you guys look scary." I think they were more scared of me to be honest. [laughter] I said, "Is everything good? Everything calm, peaceful?" "Yeah, yeah." I said, "Good, good, good." and [laughter] what's but I I think they just kind of fizzled into on into our side. I don't like saying that because alhamdulillah but now the that the the the barriers are melting down inshallah somebody has uh jumped on as a called native patriots.

Okay. So, native patriots, hello. Assalamu alaykum. There's hello native patriots. Nope. Unless uh right. Well, nope. Nope. Well, okay. I'll let uh so native patriot G when you do if you for now I'll remove that right okay so yeah patriots come on come on guys if there was any yeah if

you did [laughter] somebody did want to share some quick thoughts or something I did share the link there but I think yeah that overall what are what are your thoughts sh as somebody who is So you know you've been involved not just here not uh but globally too uh you know she this this year has not just at a national regional level for us as Brits but internationally it's been a strange year as well with a lot of challenges it's been very tough internationally you know especially within the Muslim world a lot going on um you know I know you you're

back forth uh from Yemen a lot a lot happening in Yemen uh recently but just other parts we've had in the last uh week or so Bangladesh this whole the rioting the the the you know the prime minister leaving Bangladesh fleeing hassina um just a lot of I don't it's it's just very h what are your thoughts as somebody who travels she a lot and you're very involved what is this you know is is it a new horizon that you're seeing what I wonder how you're you see as you're asking me this I've got two options in how I can in how I

can respond to it. The first option is [clears throat] the political option and that would be based off what people who I trust in positions of politics and people of experience would be feeding into me and their narratives. That that's if if you want to talk about my politics. In reality, I don't have politics. I only base it on other people's uh kind of opinions, what they give to me after I recognize that they're people worthy of having an opinion on that subject.

So I'm I'm not going to talk politics. I'm going to talk spirituality. I'm going to answer your question in the realm of spirituality. And as you were saying what you were saying in all these events happening here there and everywhere I remembered some of the some of the lines of the poem from Imad and he says he said and this this lowly life which we're in its events are many and the time we're here is short and living it in living within it is

just something which is uh kind translate for us just despised I guess or maybe just in in contemptable would we say but contemptable and nobody is going to try and look after it or gather it except the one who has no insight if he had any sense about him he would be more intelligent than that because look it's this dunya is it nature is it's fleeting away from us so let the dya go to pot it's going I am a

man of peace by the way we are here for a short time and we have to bring as much good into the dunya as we can but the reality the reality is at this whole world and the whole of existence is going to be over I went you know what I did on the night after the night of the riots I went to the graveyard I went to the cemetery here and I gave my salams to the people of the cemetery who were buried and you know in the dua we say

and I visited the the founder of alma mosque Ali I gave him my salams and I I made some duas and I I found I visited the grave of the founder of the Abdullah mosque the refounder not Abdullah he's buried in walking but Dr. Muhammad Akbar Ali and I gave him my salams and I was just I was just reflecting and contemplating and and and and wishing that all of these sides who are fighting against each other.

Now it would be very healthy if they also visited a cemetery with the purpose of reflecting on how short this life is and the reality of life. It's there. It's death. So what I would hope that would inspire to do is okay well seeing as we're going to die and we don't have much time left let's try and use the days and the months that we do have to bring as much goodness into this lowly dunya in the first you know the saying you only live once well in this saying we we that's a very Islamic saying well actually we live we live several times but in this here in this life once yeah exactly you know you only live once

in this do as much goodness as you can bring as much goodness in Do you not feel sh a because you are very acquainted for many years with the spiritual tradition. Do you not feel that of uh you know of late of recent that there has been a that there is almost this tangible kind of renaissance of spirituality it is uh increasing it's not I don't know is this something you do feel this is something I feel and I I don't know whether because you've been in the I agree.

I agree. We've never We've never talked about this before, but I agree. I I do see uh I I think part of that has to do with the fact that the nonspiritually Islam. Yeah. Which tended to be exported from one particular country has now decided they want to be the bastions for boxing, MMA, and football as opposed to Islam.

Yeah. So they've changed their agenda now. Alhamdulillah. Saudi wants football now. They want boxers. They want Anthony Joshua. They don't want Dean anymore. They're not bothered. So the tap's been turned off for the funding and that's going to have a trickle on effect for many years to come. But to Yeah. Anyway, I just even No, I I think that's we're playing catch up here. Actually, in the UK, we're playing catchup because if you go to Saudi now and you look have a look at the the the Salifi movement, it's finished.

Yeah, it's it's been cut off at the neck here in the UK and other places. It's still it's still continuing. There's still momentum. But I I think it's just a a matter of time. And by the way, I'm not by the way, some of the brothers who I met with today were were were my Salifi brothers. And just for the record, I have Jazzas from Salifi in certain in certain books and certain Yeah. and and and of course this isn't targeted at at Salopia and I meant as well because just almost palpably you can feel a I I feel this that a kind of this that

there is this appetite uh for spirituality that has increased that people you know that the substance within the kind of texture the that there is this thing man that you know it's it's not just dry that people and and this is I feel with non-Muslims as well. I I'm not just restricting this. Obviously I'm speaking of Muslims but I mean even non-Muslims the things I in in in the last few years even just been seeing and following and you know seeing online and the discussions and coming back to even just people coming to this discussion of consciousness all things

and and this whole feeling that there is you know there is okay they they haven't maybe people haven't comfortably non-Muslims haven't comfortably made the full jump to God because of all this vestage and baggage. age of uh you know Christianity in the past but and the vestage and baggage of what our communities have as well not being able to welcome them and make them feel comfortable.

Yeah, that's another Yeah, that's another challenge. Yeah, we've got it's coming to an hour and a half and I did say to you I'll just take an hour of your time. So I've gone over I apologize whenever you are you know uh when things quieten down and if you ever swing through Birmingham she you have to allow us the opportunity to host you inshallah the last the last time uh the last time I sat down with you quite a few people were upset was it I can sit down with you now because I've sat I've sat down with the EDL now I've sat down with the EDL so I think I can sit down with you I think those to be fair I think those

times have kind of moved on as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think those times have moved on. I don't think there's uh those kind of issues in in in any any murky waters or anything. So, yeah. We're going to finish with a poem what I wrote. It's called I sat with a Jew. I sat with a Jew. Let's go. Do you feel upset that I sat with a Jew and with a Christian?

Does that unnerve you? What about an atheist that angers too? a gay, an alcoholic, what will you do? One Sufi here, a Shia there or two with the Brotherhood and with the Cifi crew. Well, let me explain what the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam would do. He'd welcome everybody, black, white, and blue. The House of Islam has big doors. So true.

With invites for them all, not just me and you. Even if they reject, their rights are still due. We all need bigger hearts. If only we knew Allahbar what a beautiful poem honestly and so true the prophet's words that you know invite people do not scare them away this is truly a caravan of hope and love Allah bless you honestly I really am honest I'm so glad you gave me the opportunity to you know to at least put a bit of your message out tonight of what you're doing the work on the ground no and Shukran and keep up the amazing

work. I've really, you know, I think we are at a time where your work is much needed. Allah put baraka in it. Amen. I'm going to if people that watch this, she want to reach out to you. Um I'll share something you know a any kind of preferred socials in the description of this if you like. But is there anything you'd like to say for anybody who uh watching this whether they're in Liverpool out or worldwide and they want to reach out to you?

Yeah, the best way to to meet me is in any international airport. I'm usually there quite often. Usually in the first class business lounge. [laughter] That's it. Usually you know where the private jets are. That's alhamdulillah. Allah is Allah is generous. Yeah. Allah alhamdulillah alhamdulillah there are stories about behind all this. Alhamdulillah [laughter] Allah's generous but anyway if anyone wants [clears throat] or follow just put my name I I have my real name on all the social media platforms.

I don't do dodgy kind of aliases and stuff like that. So it's Adam Kellwick on Facebook, Adam Kellwick on Twitter, Adam Kellwick on Instagram. So, uh yeah, add me there and uh and I'd be uh I'd be happy to uh to welcome some some new followers and uh we can learn from each other. Absolutely. Shukran. Shukran to all of you that have tuned in as well to you know leave leave a comment and you know I love going through some of these uh well the good ones.

I know I go through them all actually. So I love they they give me this boost of energy. Do you know when you see the negativity? Are you trying to invite negativity to my show? Are you trying? I wanted to native. What was he called? Native whatever. I was I was [laughter] honestly that person. Let's just finish on this note. So, so back on the day when I was young, energetic, motivated, volunteer in the community, doing all this for everybody, and then somebody would do something to harm me, and it would really hurt because I'm I'm there thinking that I only want to do good for people.

So why why are you treating me like this? I I don't get it. And it used to really hurt, but my skin has become so thick. And I know you've got some thick skin as well. My skin has become so thick now when the haters express their hatred. It actually has the opposite effect and I I I buzz off it. And there are so many reasons why. One of the reasons is that you you've just abused me [laughter] for nothing.

And on your no there's going to be some kind of transaction. what takes place to to kind of uh sort that out. [laughter] Alhamdulillah, that's the first thing. And the second thing is the reason they do it is because they want to trigger you and they want to hurt you. And none of that happens. So it actually makes me really happy that their intended effect hasn't happened.

And thirdly, sometimes the stuff is quite funny on top of the previous two points what we made. True, true, true. There is a lot of humor to it. To be fair, she for a good while now. I've not uh experienced any of that [laughter] which is a which is good, you know, to just have your own peace of mind for a good while. I've not really experienced [clears throat] much negativity or or hatred. So maybe don't know whether I'm doing something right or wrong.

I don't know. But it's people's love. I have experienced people's love and Allah blessed them. And people do you know if you are especially around the Liverpool I'm sure you're already in touch withh if you're there but other people if you if you any aspiring imams also I would love to say my message to them or people that if they come across this and uh they're on that path of some kind of that wow learning Islam do reach out to people like sheh Adam Kelwick try and take from this path of actually how to engage age as a community imam.

What kind of efforts how you build bridges? Th this is a practical skill and it's something which I don't feel uh I have enough talent in. Um I wish I did but I know that I you know when I spot it I see it and so this is why we need more of that amongst more young people. So do reach out. If you want to reach out to me for anything I've got that at the bottom there patreon.com/malm.

you're more than welcome to reach out there and you know you can arrange um kind of contact and be part of my kind of journey there. People take very good care of yourselves. Allah bless you all. May Allah keep everybody safe. May Allah you know quench um the this kind of this rage with tranquility mean and peace and stability.

May he enable us as Muslims to be, you know, ambassadors of Rahma. This which is a derivative of Allah's divine quality on earth. May we mirror this this this quality of Allah to his creation on earth. A mean Allah bless you all. Salami allaykum and sheh especially to you.

Allah bless you.