Ustadh Sharghzadeh | Relationships, Rumi & Rendering Dreams | MindTrap #79 Mufti Abu Layth

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right with a bit of a break in between I'd um yeah not been too well unfortunately uh the you know just it's fascinating there was a a batch of covid and I recover from that my whole family little one everyone was recover from that absolutely fine and then a couple of days again ago just out of nowhere some kind of stomach bug or something just crazy something I'd

not wow you know I don't think i' my stomach had been that messed up for since I remember like at least maybe the last time maybe like 20 years ago when I studied abroad 25 years ago at that time but you know uh it it made me think I must say I was um that you know what so I could I could when when a person's ill especially this time I sensed you

know there's a physical vulnerability about you you're not your normal self you you don't it's not just about not having the strength you don't even have the what holds you together in the same way like you're slow you're just not the the you know you don't have that electricity that you normally have and you you You're vulnerable there's a vulnerability to you and it's strange you know and there's a we weakness and and so I sat here doing a bit of

work the other day just at a snail pace and I could you know in this feeling I could understand H the importance in Islam like of this visiting people when they're sick like for the first time I thought about that I thought wow I see because I've realized in that I mean it's not real but there's a perceived a person feels for once a sense of almost loneliness like you feel I mean you're not like I'm

not lonely like I'm but you feel it and I thought wow okay but I mean it was uh short lived thing but it made me realize that and I thought well you know it's something that a wisdom that Islam has um kind of planted in our faith right people bringing to you again after almost three years our beloved aad of the

East one of the few I would say world renowned experts on molana Ali and somebody who has you know been touched by that uh by that cloth of spirituality and de once again by public demand people allahar or it should be our own

shum thank you for having me all right it's been quite a while now it's been almost 2 to three years we we had a very fascinating conversation when we last spoke on spirituality and roomi and and just all kinds of permutations from that so wow shukran shukran for making the time pleasure right I can see people have started to tune in I can see uh people are asking about crypto to the Moon as you can see people are saying yep

crypto this is the kind of thing that makes you wish that yeah you know if you had more money to have put into it an anecdote about that about crypto so when I was when I was in 10th Grade there was a Russian kid in our school and he told me about the Deep Web and that was the Russian internet is probably CD or something like that and I said wow so he said you download this thing called tour and you go on these websites and there these websites men and gangsters and drugs you know it was just all crime I think probably still it's all crimes and you know we were just fascinated 13-year-olds at lunch in high school and then we went on the Silk Road where they s sold the

drugs and I said well then you can't just buy these and he said no there's something called Bitcoin that you use to buy the drugs and I became so fascinated I said there's an what is this I looked into it and I got so fascinated by Bitcoin this is 's villain Arc story his under you know the under drug kingpin Story how it came about five years later I was in federal prison and I'm just joking but what happened was I was a computer nerd I would build computers I would Tinker with them I'd buy broken ones and try to fix them and all these things so I thought oh Bitcoin I'll try to mine it and I tried and I told my dad and my dad said ah this is ridiculous and I tried to buy some and I

was scammed by the person who was supposed to sell me them because there wasn't an exchange I sent him $10 on PayPal and eventually I I didn't get them but a couple of my friends who had it did and one of them still has two of the Bitcoins and now it's worth $180,000 so for him it was his risk yeah gonna say you should you should have definitely got those y those 12 years old you know you know it was like one one was like $2 back then wow and it is yeah for people it it does seem to be rising the world crypto world I mean

I've you see I've believed in that because I've kind of from the very get-go as soon as I came to realize that this the function and modality of that crypto realm I thought hm this is something that's here to stay it's just can't the fact that there is a you know any steps that remove government from between you and your money will always find a passion power to protect it because it it will just you know it's one of those things

that people will defend and try to protect till the ends of the Earth you know the their wealth so right that's that Journey but yep there you go people you know there were some memes uh circulating a little while back that where are all those people who were speaking about Bitcoin well I guess you know it's may may Allah give Baraka to each and all a mean a mean all right so sh it's been quite a while I hear you

were telling me you've also embarked you've gone to the Uncharted you've gone to the territory of the the the the M of the has tied the knot people it's too late he said he's done kab yes ald yeah it's I mean I was I feel like a child M the last time we spoke I must have been what like 24 years old now I'm 27 so 27 is closer to 30 than to you've got you know it's uh it's the wisdom and and the

consciousness of a 47y old that you're carrying allahar now a lot has changed since we last spoke when we last spoke I was living in Iran and I was living with my grandfather I was in my research and study phase and then uh you know what what you just mentioned occurred alhamdulillah in turkey and then we moved to Michigan to figure out what we were going to do because not everyone has this uh unconventional online working teaching life and then we moved to Kuwait live there we both work at school actually taught at a local just a local private school and then we lived in

Turkey for some time and now we're in New York because can can I just ask you so in the span of a couple of years there's Iran Kuwait turkey yeah have I missed one yeah those are the three I mean I've travel to other countries in interim but but living in those three just briefly tell us how do they compare how does qu compare as well because it's like it has I don't know it has a bit of a like an EXO aler to it or maybe that's just to it's a bit off the way I think I might have spoken with you about Iran Iran's interesting it's a country in the throws of tradition and

modernity and it's fascinating it's an air to an ancient culture that anyone who follows me sees I engage with you know intellectually and all that Kuwait is a very kind of out of the way country and I I mean that very respectfully I think they like that actually they like that they have a quiet calm place I don't think they want it to be busy I think that's purposeful and it's very very conservative in a kind of a genuine Grassroots way uh it's a very conservative culture most people cover they're very religious they pray and they have their own way of life alhamdulillah it's calm they have their traditions and Customs they're very principled about certain issues such as Palestine which is very heartwarming that they you know amongst the gulf

they're kind of alone with their very loud Palestine oh are they very are they relatively quite outspoken about it compared to of the I worked at a school when October 7th happened and as soon as the uh basically the War Began in Gaza the students started showing solidarity and they even I think they removed a a western teacher who basically cided basically like was defending the war as as weird as that is to say for a Westerner to teach in Kuwait and defend Israel but in any case they they are very vocally it's like a state policy essentially it's part of you could even say their culture as a

society that we are not going going to join you know other Arab states and we're going to vocal and they're also they have a general Free Speech culture which is very rare among Arabs so in Kuwait you have people who are active in society who are liberal who are secular a Kuwaiti converted to Judaism you have bahis who are persecuted in many countries are totally free there as far as I I could tell um there Sunni there Shia you know their mosques are respected when there was a Sunni mosque blown up by ISIS the uh leader the Amir at the time actually went into the mosque immediately after it was blown up and for those of you who aren't aware there's this double tap technique that

many countries use where you blow up a place and then you wait helpers come you blow them up so the Amir actually went there and said like don't go it's dangerous for you there's a video of someone saying that and then he says these are my children and that's really powerful in a kind of a Sunni Arab State for the ruin family to be so and amenable and nice to their local Shia population and it was really weird because in that country in our society in Iran and many middle eastern states we just hope that the government doesn't bother us that's just our bother us way and's actually the

expectation that the government helped the citizens and this comes from this beautiful B and tradition that the legitimacy of the rulers doesn't come from voting or something like that but it comes from how much they take care of their people so they're like a tribal Elder in a way still and it was just a fascinating window into their lives there that year and then I went to Turkey alhamd Turkey is less of an enigma right I think most Muslims have been I mean in terms of their living how would you compare them because I mean it's interesting I've not known I mean I've known people who visited maybe you know they've gone to Turkey or they've gone to this but not really lived in these the way I would put it is you know

most Muslims are we have this Oriental laziness and we're indolent by Nature right we dislike and I this about myself by the way we enjoy to not work but we're pushed by Facts of Life to work as little as little as possible we work but imagine the golf is a society where they're not right because they're so fabulously wealthy so they are kind it is kind of true that they don't work as hard and things go slowly but I think if I was them I probably would be doing the same honestly so they have a relaxed life same they're kind of like more Europeans than Europeans they they take long vacations a lot of things are subsidized but they're very happy with their lives I mean I I don't blame them they I wouldn't be unhappy if I was in

their situation but they they're very they have a calm Society they don't have what we would recognize as kind of like a public sphere there aren't big patas and squares and um you know societies there there societies organize long lines of familial connection so every week they have family gatherings but they also have this National Institution called a diania just like a Dewan or a magist where every family will have one and people will go go from diania to diania and meet each other they they're a society where despite being a million people it seems like everyone knows everyone somehow it's

fascinating I see mashah and do you mind us asking a bit just briefly prying on how was your uh your lucky fortunate relationship stumbled upon because you know there's a lot of people who are struggling in this realm of um relationship sh I think in this day and age there's a huge problem so people are always asking they're saying what where where should I go what should where do I look I don't know what to tell them yeah yeah yeah I've never talked about it actually I try because on people are already talking about my Twitter here on Twitter I I bother yeah

it said here something about oh uh that you're uh you keep people should we say active on Twitter I don't know what that's about I'm not active on Twitter so it's it's better that you not be it's it's a waste of time many way but any so essentially what happened was uh we had just mutual friends and they put us in contact and we were talking to one another and we said okay there's really kind of no way you know you're living in New York City and I live in tan there's no way that we can uh you know like there's no way to conventionally date you know how Muslims they meet and they meet and they what'sapp I said okay how is this going to work so we just decided to to just just go through with the Just

Like Old School people basically so we hardly talk to one another I mean uh we talked to each other on WhatsApp for like two weeks and we met and on that day we said literally we met so when you're saying you spoke spoke like just over the phone before reg but the first time you met in person was at the Act was done was at the ACT yeah it was at the ACT Allah Allah because there was no other way to do it was there like was there like a get out clause in that no I'm joking no there was no it was like it's like a suicide pack at that point you know and that's what marriage should be get out clause

then you'll just end up with 50 divorce like Western the same thing out of life you know we I mean I'm an open book right anyone can look at my online presence and just see what is that when you say an open book you mean like the mthi like that way yes open one that needs so much interpretation so you know alhamdulillah it's been two years now and I I over just oh I couldn't be bless Rel yeah thank you so much you know do you mind it's just on this note uh you know before going to to to something uh just

because this so many people are always asking about this about relationships about getting married at a certain age uh you know this kind of topic this theme what what are your thoughts on this theme you know at a broader level I mean you for you you it seemed to have worked that look you were in Iran you knew some people you had some mutual friends they kind of set something up and it worked a lot of people are asking this kind of stuff what do they do where do they go what's this do they use these apps swiping apps do they use this kind of you know what what do they use like I don't to be honest I'm not

saying anything like I'm sure successful relationships have happened through all of these means and I'm sure whatever success ful means as in genuine and I'm sure disingenuous relationships have happened through all means you know not just so I mean I'm not just trying to you know take a a dig at certain things but yeah what what are your you know as a young person you're obviously young us old souls we've we've been through this territory many of times and now just retired and said yeah just hang up the been like yeah where's where's that Forest and the

hermit lifestyle where's my Chad where's my Chad and let me I understand definitely it's tough I can't lie I mean even for myself it was just a stroke of luck and I feel like at that point in my life I had been through so many difficult periods because you know I've never talked about this stuff personally but because of my love in our connection uh my love for you in our connection I'll I'll lay out personal details today I never said before on the internet so when covid happened I had to leave Jordan which was very difficult so that was painful I had earned a one year scholarship to study and I had to leave it four months short and I had a good job there teaching English earning a decent salary by local standards and I had to leave that and so many things

were cut short and then I was in the covid uh lockdown which was painful and then my grandfather suddenly my grandmother died and I couldn't see her before she di bless you and then my grandfather fell and broke his leg so he was immediately in need of people to live with him so I rushed to Iran but because I didn't complete my military service yet I was immediately banned from leaving you are Iranian ethnically Iranian and by nationality as well so I have the passport okay so I was in Iran taking care of my grandpa and at the same time trying to convince the government that I didn't abcon from my military service because I left as a

teenager when I when I was finishing high school and I didn't update the government with what I was doing so from their perspective I had just left right before I was supposed to start and I just showed up so I had to go through all this process convincing them I was a student and during covid getting paperwork and translating it and updating it in the system and proving that I wasn't like running away because it's a big deal to just have as we say and I was going through all this drama and difficulty and then my bank accounts were getting Frozen because they were saying you're living in Iran and my patreon was shut down so one problem after another and I feel like God relieved me finally by facilitating marriage making marriage easy for me the one thing alhamdulillah he gave me but

what I would say the prophet Moses says that whatever you send down to me from goodness I am most istitute of it and the MU say that was then uh marriage allahar so just cast a wide net I would say for the young people the apps you know I don't necessarily like that but don't deny yourself maybe someone else is reluctantly also on there have friends but I think more important than looking for someone I mean unless you live in a small town where there's Muslims if you live in Birmingham London New York Metro Detroit you know La you're going to run into Muslims be a

person who is attractive to be married to and then when you come across the spouse then you'll you'll find your spouse because you're meeting marriageable people all the time and it's not just about going to right but if you don't have a career laid out if you can't speak properly when you meet someone you're mumbling and and you can't present yourself if if you don't have any hobbies that are interesting if you want to do is talk about movies and yourself when you meet someone you're not a marriageable person they say success is luck plus uh preparedness right so I got lucky when roomie was Muslim went viral but I was prepared in the sense that i' been

translating room years room little roomy book right here right but yeah but yep go be prepared have a good if you're studying be a good student with a good career if you have a career work on improving it if you know what your living situation is think about about it get the steps of married life in order so then when you come across the spouse she doesn't become The One That Got Away she's like oh wow you're ready when you meet her somebody had just said look I've heard Persian wow I must say from one of the few languages that are on my list to definitely learn is Persian where your service I've heard it spoken as well it

does sound wow it does have something very just unique about it mashallah I would love Persian prodcts you can just www.panic.com and I'm at your service allahar and I'm going to share a link to that as well in the in the description so wow yeah I would definitely I think you know on these so here's something I wonder what you think about this and you see I don't know whether I could but I could just say about my own life I don't know if I can you know sometimes you have to be weary as well one thing with age and mature I is that you become weary you're

less reluctant to advise people like you kind of feel you know I feel that when I was let's say I go back 25 years I'm young 20 years I think it's the like I'm so eager to advise people like you know it's like in Arabic there's saying the fact that you don't have it you're eager to give it but I I felt that with age like I'm I'm very reluctant to advise people sometimes like I feel like increasingly it's just but in any case for myself and I'd love your thoughts on it I found that in life

many if not perhaps most if not all Allah but at least you know many of the greatest decisions I've ever taken I've taken impulsively and and I've taken and what I mean by that is that like I've had you know in in Arabic they use this term and and it has a root in the Quran like like you have this like they say your chest expands to something like the verse theah so from here this term is often used by people that in I don't know if they use it in fari but they use it in U

that in in the opening of the M actually says I'm seeking a chest that's torn apart from so that I can give the the explanation of the pain of Yearning For The Beloved so room uses that in the open hi hi hi hi hi hi hi see people learn something this is how you going to obviously if you're looking for marriage proposals when you sit down say two three lines of roomi like that but even even the waiter they will propose to you

here everybody would be like yeah so so this when when when I felt that to something and I just I've had this kind of intuition that that there's something about this thing whatever that was at that stage of life that I'm about to do I've just then leapt and done it like I've not over thought the process uh and you know cuz sometimes like what I find is when you overthink something you your critical hypercritical kind of thinking gets

activated and you talk yourself out of things analysis paralysis they say oh yeah wow I like the analysis paralysis here and there's been many things which when I've done them there's been a headache afterwards but it's got dealt with as in when I say headache as in let me rephrase that as in it was it may have been required much more effort than I first thought but had I not leapt into it I would like if I had been shown all the effort this is going to take to do it I would have not done it it would have been too daunting like let's say

I'm going to take a business decision or I'm going to do something or somebody says oh you know there's going to be this and let me just tell you everything you're going to go through you're going to have to deal with this this this this you think oh forget that I'm better off without this but because sometimes you think oh let's just jump you know leap then the path as it comes becomes easier like you as you face the bridge you cross it so there's a famous quote it's not well translated necessarily but by roomie where they say as you step on the path the path appears you need to actually start yeah yeah I I love that I've quoted that so many times as you

walk and the path appears they quote it from molana roomi I mean um but it's it's amazingly you know however it is the the meaning is spoton that as you walk with tul the world appears for you kind of think of it in a way you know there's another quote which I love I mean it said it's from molana roomi and um but nonetheless that that you go about the world as as though the world is rigged in your favor that that you treat this as if imagine this world is a simulation it's a game and it's rendering and as you're moving forward

it's rendering accordingly yeah and sometimes if you have that resolve you take that thing you know Allah will make it happen for you I believe that yeah I believe that whatever you the way you approach world the world the mindset you go into life you make that a reality I hate to sound like manifesting or you know modern SE no I I feel that that's absolutely fine your reality if you have a winner mindset then you'll you'll end up being a winner at some level and if you have a loser's mindset then you're setting it's a self-fulfilling prophecy so you need to just go in with positive

mindset and someone said made a good point they said it's a difference between you know being impulsive and being decisive right so making decisive decisions going for something like again like we talked about the zage situation saying okay you know we on all the major issues we have all the same ideas about life and plans about the future and you know our families have no problems Etc okay we've talk for three weeks what what are we G to do talk for three months or three years as I see people do or do you want to just be decisive and make and pull the trigger yeah in life and it's not and sometimes it's to me it's not even if you when I say decisive like you said

decisive you might not even have the you know that decisive but there's an element of that you might think oh just do it you know like there's a bit of a bit of a Carefree almost element to it but I think it's necessary you know there's when you were saying that there was a quote that came to my mind he said that the that you know the um the that the the positivist thought or the people you know with the Positive mindset always this you know you're speaking of manifesting that they get to be successful or wealthy or um and it

said and the cynics get to be correct so yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of Truth oh my God that's so good I love that a lot so yeah know I think about it in life the the most most rich businessmen are usually not well educated not precise bombastic not well spoken and they get rich in business like we see I grew up in metro Detroit all the richest Muslim businessmen they have a high school degree and then the professors which are geniuses and they know every statistic perfectly they make you know oneth or one tenth or one half of the salary of the person who does business right I love that a lot so you can be successful or you can be correct

yeah because like you know that that's it because cuz to success There is almost an element like to well to The Outsider there's an element of delusion involved almost to the outsider like to to the person looking at them they think oh this person's delusional and I guess they are until they make it 100% yeah then they're like oh wow well actually it works I mean I live in New York now every actor every every person who's you meet them they're a waiter you're talking to them at the restaurant oh you're waiter oh yeah but I'm here to be an actor you think oh you're gonna be an actor but a lot of the famous Hollywood actors they were

waiters in New York and in La they were you know Donald Trump when he said he was going to be president everyone laughed at him I remember it very well everyone was laughed at his face they thought it was a joke they thought it was a publicity St here he is the second time he just got elected right wow he's a good thing you know there's a lot of Truth to that yeah because and you know this thing because what you mentioned about manifesting I don't to me I don't I believe that these things depending on how people are seeing them are not against it's not antithetical to Islam uh they're in line with Islam depending on how you're seeing it obviously if you're seeing it as it is

Allah that is uh doing decreeing all of that then that's fine obviously if you're seeing it as this is not Allah this is somehow you know something else that's doing it then of course that's a very you know that's an inaccurate and a wrong and possibly leading into it like a shiky element but if we see that the algorithm the Divine algorithm that Allah has said it is in a way I love that is a Muslim word though yeah Alis it's from it's from it's from your kind it's

from from UL yeah you're right some of the greatest minds of the past have have been the Persians but I love that Divine algorithm there really is a Divine algorithm because look when you let's say now we are watching you know somebody said to me the other day they said um I was having a patreon session and um you know Allah bless uh this brother he'd kind of he'd it'd come on and so I usually always whenever I'm having like my onet to ones I always ask people tell me you know first time tell me a bit about yourself tell me your journey tell me also how I connect you

know where do I where do where do I come into your journey and so it's good to know and but we ended up talking he was saying look he got into this kind of religious like watching religious stuff online and what YouTube does is the algorithm then sets it in a way that it starts bringing up more and more da related but he said it's interesting that what happens is unbeknownst to you you're going down this road almost where YouTube the algorithm starts bringing you more almost like if I can use the word like right leaning or rightwing

Islamic kind of Da stuff wi stuff that kind of so it's bringing that to you so now he's watching all of these things you know now this is what he's getting this and then surprisingly it brings him right-wing islamophobic stuff which is also targeting Islam he was telling me that's interesting because the algorithm must be seeing all of these things as engaged like so the you know there's all these debates going on now so when you opening your YouTube as it were now you're just seeing these things now to you that this is your portal into this kind of YouTube

world and and you're thinking well this is how it is but everybody's portal looks different based on what they they have been searching what they have and they're getting more and more and they're in this one could say a micro uh you know like an echo chamber but that is their world and similarly now if you take Zoom that out you have like a divine algor RM where a person as they are making their mindset their approach they are they are thinking well of Allah now thinking well of Allah doesn't just mean

I mean it does mean sure Allah will do kindness and mercy show Mercy to us in the afterlife but it's in everything you know why should I not think Allah will you know make me he is making me not will is making me incredibly talented is making making me incredibly uh intelligent incredibly successful incredibly now however you do your that algorithm the cosmos your world like you getting up going out is rendering you're getting more curate the algorithm yourself unlike on YouTube and Tik Tok where they curate it for you you

can actually curate your algorithm for and a beautiful way of looking at the verse of the Quran that uh that you know many people one way that they saw this verse was that you do not wish like the only way you can will something is if Allah wills it but this verse equally I mean it equally reads the other way equally like a 50/50 it's not that that you do not will

something except Allah lord of the world WIS it so he so you can you can read this verse in like with in the same way with both sides of that meaning you know it's like the the Schrodinger kind of effect on it so yeah just to kind of throw in it's like what the hell is this guy doing throwing random terms oh alith what was it Divine algorithm ending with SH yeah yeah you know speaking of which

I wanted to explore your thoughts on i' got into this discussion re recently and I've been uh you know this whole dream space because I'm very um I'm very fascinated recently in the last just maybe one two years with this whole dream space thing and I've been really looking into it and trying to revise and learn my understanding of what is it that's going on and so I know um I'm not saying jalaludin Malana roomi is all you know

he's so uh uh you know he he he's so one of the major Scholars on this kind of stuff but his poetry is very mystical and thereby you know perhaps it has an overlap with this whole so any thoughts or on on this would be definitely I mean I would appreciate them no very well yeah there is a um there is a really interesting passage from the master am I able to share my screen at all is that possible yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you can do yep so if you click it and oh there we go so are they

currently seeing what's on my screen for my yeah now I'm just going to add it here there you go I've added it oh beautiful all right now you guys can see this is like what being in my class is basically so he says this is Nicholson's translation he says every night you free the spirits from the body's snare and erase the tablets so this is talking about dreaming

the spirits are set free every night from this cage meaning when they dream done with ordinance and talk and tale ordinance here means um they are not or this is kind of not the best translation here they're neither nor they're neither ruled upon nor ruled this is just a totally free realm and what does the what does the curse here mean at the end person so person for for then he

says at night the prisoners are totally unaware that they're in a prison when they're dreaming and at night the saltin The Sultans are totally unconscious of their fortune or their power their strength it's like this equalizing field there is no worry or thought about loss and benefit worldly loss and gain nor the worry or imagination or thought of this fan and that Fon you're just totally your mind is in a different

realm and then he ties it interestingly to the sufis now he says so when you when you're asleep when you're dreaming you enter this state right but so this is the Quran he's quoting here he says this is the state of Theif the Gnostic the Sufi even when he's awake God said deem while they slept shy not at this so this is seven

sleepers yeah wow then he says he is asleep from the the states of the dya day and night like a pen in the grasp of God's hand he's totally unconcerned about the Affairs of the

world the the person who doesn't see the hand writing if he just saw the pen you know just a thought experiment he might think that the pen itself is doing the writing and not the hand but the odif knows he's like the pen in God's hand that God is writing sh he has shown forth some part of the state of the Sufi when the when the creation are carried off by their sleep when they dream they have a little glimpse of the life of the

Sufi their souls have gone off to the desert that is beun that is Howes there's no description there's no describing that desert okay their spirit and bodies are at full rest and then he says with he he draws them back and he says God blows a whistle like and he brings us all back to the world and then we enter this

realm the one who causes the dawn to break this beautiful quranic phrase he brings them all from those Realms into the form into Humanity he brings all the spirits back to the bodies and every body is made pregnant with the spirit is made full of the spirit he says the steeds of the souls he makes them empty of a sad

this is the meaning of sleep is the brother of death oh wow anyway so this can this goes on and on but R lot to say about these things so in if they're interested they can join me in the Massi circle on yeah definitely that wasek that was that was beautiful wow I'll share that link and yeah room has a lot to say about everything it is amazing you know this persan of let's say the mathnawi of roomi how different is that today from the Persian

today because you're looking at about 700 years of yeah it's fair to say so if on one hand you have languages that had changed you know beyond recognition in 700 years you know such as English or if you go back to English from the 1200s you really don't get any of it and then Arabic Arabic has been remarkably stable so today is 97% similar to then or something like that Persian is maybe in the 70s and 80% so a contemporary ronia and Afghan taji could pick this up and read it and pretty much get most of it you need a little bit of instruction to get you the last 10 or 20% and that's where I come in inala alhamdulillah I'm

glad but it's it's relatively close like You' be surprised anyone who's watching this who comes from a Persian speaking background they would be surprised how much of it they can understand kind of in one go so it's not that it's not that difficult I mean even if you know Turk U for God's sake like it's pretty easy because to be fair just even looking like a lot of that is very not just discernable but to me like it would make a lot of sense um like I'd be able to grasp and then but sometimes maybe I wouldn't know have I grasped it correctly but when I can see the meaning I think yeah oh I did get that correct so yeah and you you know a quick

question the raw that you have uh that that is that for the present tense uh participle is that what it is the present tense verb or the raw is kind of doing what Arabic does with the cases and all that thew tells you what is receiving the action of the verb so what's the when you see like to go back so it's got this like yeah like at the bottom yeah or suppose if you go to the top yeah yeah yeah sure so um basically this tells you that R here and which is great because all Muslims would

know these words as an example are receiving the action soan in the very beginning of this line yeah I mean protect or to memorize or key like that so he says so you have protected but this raw tells you that kishan is what's being protected right and then I'm sorry it's actually both of them so and so which one and this verb is actually affecting both of these here but you know I never thought that one day I'd be on your uh I'd be on your live teaching

Persian no no because I you know I love language so I I I get so drawn to some of these questions you know the gram grammatical one so I take it that's the then it's the the the passive participle exactly right okay so so that sign here is that this is in the so is it always ra or does it change is it if it's Persian it's always ra Persian very because you know by the way okay because in Arabic you would have also the genitive so where you're using a

preposition so you know I gave this to him uh so the two or you know I walked past him or I looked at him so this uh this to or at the preposition it gives it the ma the genitive right which is different to um the you know the object of a verb direct object like I read it I saw it so the man that gives you a f but here they would all just be ra exactly this is where this only be for a verb right sorry I think have I

disconnected audio with the uh right one second all right just give me one sec I think my headset has naughty naughty that's just without me wanting to just connected maybe just connected to my the phone or something that it um right okay let me just take that off from there uh so just seeing if uh audio all right okay that should be back now hello sure hello I can hear all right yep y yep you're back yes so for a

while I think it disconnected right so is it the same always is this just for the verb or is it in both cases so this is just to tell you that something is receiving it's a direct object of the verb and it's not like Arabic where you have all these different cases and the vowels changes completely it's not like that it's just when an action is directly receiving a verb it's it's the kind of the object of it it gets this Raw After but other than that Persian grammar is very simple so where where it would

say how would yeah literally I can translate that word for word for you it's if only like yate okay ASF okay that's simple enough what's Chun what's chun chun means myth likee could be like is like these yeah like yeah no would be if it's receiving if it's the or something like that okay um it's like or something like that in

Arabic is it would so basically like it would or he would whoever the do is here probably God here would have kept this R like he kept the the boat all right I see I see wow or something like that if you want to make it rhyme in Arabic wow now people people are probably thinking why on Earth has he gone off on a gramatical he's gone off just on a personal chromatic errand here

I do I have this deep yeah I do love grammar I haven't really uh done much of Arabic grammar in a while now but back back in the days I used to be obsessed with this kind of stuff so yeah oh wow so that was fascinating you know on the dream thing I was thinking I was reading a few Hadith and uh it was you know can you can hear me fine can't you for some reason my earphones have just started doing a oh right as it I I think it's I think

it's fine um it's just yeah you know sometimes it just gives a little um I I've just felt is it giving an echo but right I take it everybody can hear me fine right so thinking about the dream thing I was reading a few Hadith because you see and I'd like to uh uh share this as well with people here that the viewers that cuz I've spoken quite a bit about the you know the the realm between us and the which is

the and what many of us don't realize is that the Barak is not just something we you know we've returned to but it's something we've always been connected to even right now we're connected to it and it is the Deep we would call today the Deep unconscious so the Barak is this world that it's like the intersection the world in between you could say whether it's the a whether it's pure Spirit whether it's a certain Divine uh realm of power to this material world the Barak the the kind of

barrier and that world has a is connected to us and it has a modality of function so when we uh depending on its function it could be you could give it a certain name so uh we hear these terms like these are modalities of that of the so it's a bit like saying talk about that quite a bit by the way maybe we should translate so could you translate I think some maybe some of my audience even maybe wouldn't so so to yeah so to

to so to briefly so to to understand this in a good way you take it in just simple steps so the first step and then I'll translate them as I'm going along the first step is just understanding that because most Muslims already know of the bar it's a Persian is it right okay we have which is which is space and then Dak which is hell wow anyway wow and in the Quran no you're right and and many of the MU say it comes from far even in the uh you

know in the T they say it has that it's likely that it has those Origins so now bar most Muslims know of this but they're not quite like they think of it everybody knows of it as a place we go to after we we've we've passed to after we've died so it's this kind of interspace between before here like the world of the Great Brave that world is the bar everybody knows this but what they don't quite focus on and this is where the sufis and IB Arabi and these great other Mystics have really expanded and clarified in their teachings is that the bar is something that we are always

connected to it's not just we connect we go once we we've passed away sure but during our lives and from before birth to right through this world we are connected and so you think well how are we connected to the bar and we're connected as you would with the unconscious mind so when you go to sleep where do you go you go to the unconscious mind which is the bar so Allah says he takes the souls it is like a death almost because the conscious mind is disconnected and you go to the

Deep unconscious the Barak but the Barak has functions as well it does like things are happening it's not just a it is a a realm in which all of us are the all of us have some kind of connection maybe some stronger than others it is a realm in which sometimes the the Divine decrees manifesting in ways in a code and symbols which so let's say you are getting more risk so the a ruling is manifesting for for you to get more risk here it will I mean here it might

manifest as you've got a new job you've got this pay come through but there it would be something like it's like saying code and the game so theide it's very different you're accessing the bar is that the idea yeah so you are you are in the but you are accessing it because that is where you go when the conscious mind gets Switched Off we have access says right he says we it's like everyone wanders off and they this tether and for some people every night the tether yank back to wake up and for certain people there will be a day when the tether doesn't yank them back and they just stay there so this would kind of dovetail with what say absolutely absolutely it's tethered in like we are

all Tethered to the bar that we have this now the Barak does there Divine rulings there is a connection and a function to it so when We're Dreaming for example the bar is showing us things like we see things there but the language of the unconscious mind is not always it's not quite like how we use language MH so it communicates in symbols it communicates in it doesn't communicate necessarily so the Hadith said that when a person dreams it could be three that it could be a vision from

God it could or a Dream from God it could be just something negative like the shaan is just like just an like a a silly nightmare or something which is just from the as in it doesn't have a truth to it or it could just be we could just be in a chatter like I've been thinking about this all day now I dream about it so but the so ignoring the latter two let's say you are seeing something in this world the world of the bar doesn't have time how we have it so it's not because time

doesn't time is something which we perceive like The Arrow of time is something it's just the way we move through this physics that we perceive the arrow of time moving in a certain way it doesn't mean that it has to move how we see it but it's just our kind of like our VR thing our the way our interface shows it to us like this in the I've heard I'm sorry I've heard that dreams can be like it can be the when they do brain scan while you're sleeping a dream could last a couple minutes most but sometimes day or week exactly and

dreams generally dreams at most last they say typically a few seconds they say that a dream will probably be something like about 10 to 20 seconds but it will seem so last because and even if you say went 30 seconds I mean even if you stretched it to 60 seconds but the really it's it's a lot less than that and and it happens only during they say often during REM rapid eye movement but the may maybe in the Deep stage so you have four stages of sleep uh you know the what the the brain is going through the different waves and then you have REM and and then

this cycle repeats itself so a typical cycle from stage one to 3 four which would be deep sleep and then you go into REM rapid eye movement when you are in Rapid eye movement it lasts for about 60 to 90 seconds and during that maybe 2 minutes stops during that time you go through sleep paralysis your body is actually paralyzed oh wow and yeah yeah you're actually paralyzed and uh but what's ironic is the brain when they you know put all these nodes to it Electro andrs they measure

it it's called paradoxical sleep because the brain becomes active as as though you are awake so you know the way you are right now the brain waves are measured electronically but when you sleep they go from you know alpha beta theta they they the waves drop so you go into like a sleep mode which is not the same kind of waves that you and me are we've got right now but when you enter REM the brain waves become really active again as though you are awake but you are actually paralyzed and that's when you're dreaming during REM most dreams occur during REM this is why you know if

you if you're awoken during REM you would feel sleep paralysis right heard you're paralyzed people IND it when they try to loose a dream they try to induce sleep paralysis to trick their body into thinking sure but I mean we most of us I've experienced it on a bunch of occasions it can be quite terrifying if you don't know what it is because you you're awake but you can't move and you think what I can't move I I've experienced it on maybe a couple of occasions but so so so the interesting thing that I was saying about so that's just how the the brain generally works during dreams but as we

go into that realm the unconscious mind does not perceive time the way we do the bar to it in many ways what our lives past present present and future may be occurring in a similar bandwidth it may not be as clear in that world how it like to us we're going through it it's a bit like saying imagine you're looking at a map a block Universe like a map where everything is like in 2D and you can see that this character is going to go through here to here

to from your perspective you can see it all the past present future is instantaneous mhm but through the perspective of the two character that's going through that piece of paper it hasn't yet reached that perspective okay I see what you're saying so so sometimes this is where we could see things sometimes maybe in the Barak of something to come premonition Sometimes some people they can almost they don't predict but they shown the future or they shown something's about to happen or they see it in a way because the B has to it time doesn't

exist the way it exists to us now so in any case not to uh you know go off too much but the terms are used often for the by Mystics and sufis interesting it is the it is the but it's a different modality it's a different function so the name just as as an example when I use the word mind and then if I use the word intellect now the intellect it's not that it's something separate to the mind

but it's a certain function or a certain facet of the mind that when you're speaking of this facet that is when you say the intellect you know when when it's to do with certain intelligence and so on now similarly is used often when it's to do with things like it's connected it's to do with things like inspiration that this this barza continues to feed into us that we are connected to taking meaning from um you know this kind of

and I would say even this this realm of um well we spoke earlier this kind of divine algorithm of manifesting I have spoken about that in a lengthy video not to digress but to confuse it for people but simply these are terms I've got detailed videos of modalities of functions that what the Mystic said is that we have access to that world one through the unconscious mind but do we have access to it through our conscious mind like could we access it consciously without sleeping without dreaming well roomi seems to think so right he says this is the state of

Mystic even when they're awake yeah and they said that you see one way you do it is through that imagination you see imagination today has become so underrated because we think of imagination as oh just something flimsy like oh that's just your imagination and that is a meaning of imagination but imagination is the kind of image creating modality we have that which creates for us something what the Mystics were saying is that this ultimately is connected to

that realm and it has a function in this world which is creativity which is uh visualization this is why look when you visualize something to be true it often ends up becoming true because the is connected it's not just how you know it's not flimsy and frivolous like how people just think that but when you connect emotion with and you bring it into existence almost so in any case um I'd been thinking I mean this is stuff which uh I'd spoken about quite a bit but the

dream world I was more so interested in dream interpretations I was kind of thinking about this a lot and thinking about um you know the because the world of Dreams it communicates in symbols not necessarily it's using it's a bit like saying the hieroglyphics so let's say I'm to write a word to you but I choose a symbol like so for o i draw a picture of an owl and for w i draw I don't know picture of water or something now an L something

else like a picture of a letter now you understand that well I'm just using the first letter of each one of those there's a code to somebody who doesn't understand that would might think well oh what's this owl doing in water and something about a letter and but that's not what I'm trying to say now similarly the dream world it communicates in this kind of symbology that there is this it will use images that you know that are in your kind of lscape in your simulation so to speak it will use them and present them

to you in certain ways and sometimes that in a way that you may be able to take meaning from it but maybe not maybe you might you might think there's something important about that dream but I don't get it like what is it now this I understood and a lot of people have looked into this you know dream interpretation and and one thing I would say is that you know these books that are attributed to Let's sayin and and people just go wild on them that's not the way how to do it but I was developing a the I was kind of thinking a bit more on a theory that you see I was reading some

of these Hadith that where the Prophet said that you have to be we who you interpret your dream to sorry who you tell your dream to lest they interpret it in a bad way now I thought that that's strange you know well what what is this about because so what if they interpret it in a bad way like they've got it you know if they've got it wrong they've got it wrong and then I've read some other Hadith like there was this Hadith that a dream is said that or

is that it is on the leg of a bird in the air in an uncertain state so long as it is not interpreted the moment it is interpreted it occurs or it falls because W can mean to fall it can mean to occur from the bird of this you know from the leg of this bird like the imagery is just wow captivating in the Hadith now I was thinking about this and I thought and then there is a Hadith that the prophet said if somebody

mentions a dream to you always interpret it in a positive light even if it's scary you give it a positive Spin and I thought that's interesting because the prophet said and then that's how it will manifest so what I you see so with all of this what I was understanding I was thinking about this and I thought about what you have in quantum physics you have an interpretation known as the the transactional

interpretation and the transactional and I want you to just bear with me on this I'm just going to just just you know just give me a an open mind and just think about this the transactional interpretation in quantum physics it speaks about something in quantum physics you have what is known as the wave function which is basically saying that in the quantum world let's say you've got a subparticle subatomic particle it is not just in this place or in that place it is in a super position which means it is in every place it is not maybe in that place

maybe in this place it is in every place when the wave function collapses it appears here now the question that the leading you know scientists of the 20th century had like Einstein and Neils bore and all these people that what collapses the wave function and so one theory that Neils B came up with and it was by being Consciousness by being by observing it so when a person observes it it collapses and that's well known that interpretation however there is another interpretation known as the

transactional interpretation now this was posited by John Kramer who based it on other fineman's work and other work what he said was that there is almost there is an almost like a handshake taking place between the past the present and the future so he said that the present it send something called the offer and the future so it's almost like this wave which is the offer from the present going into the future the future

confirms There is almost this handshake they call it this kind of like a handshake takes place there is the offer and the confirmation and when that happens the wave function collapses and the particle appears here so with this Theory what here here's where I'm going with it the Divine algorithm can work in a way that as like let's say you see a dream and it shows you like it's scary or it's or you you're like I don't understand but it was Wo you know it was something very daunting maybe it was bad maybe it

was good like let's say somebody saw the death of something or they saw the uh they interpreted like let's say a death of a family member or a death of and they thought oh my God this is you know what could be uh more terrifying than that now they tell somebody and the person says well I think this person's going to you know that person's probably going to die soon now you see the moment they've said it they strike a cord of emotion in you mhm there is a chance that with that the confirmation has happened and that becomes a reality like something

bad happens by by interpreting well like let's say there was a death now but the death meant something like their failings or all of their unsuccessful attempts up until now have died and what will come forward will only be you know something POS or imagine it meant that just as death can only happen in this world and what happens after death and immortality so it's as if the success of immortality will afflict will come upon this person now that interpretation that you see there is a

transaction that by interpreting it positively there is a chance that that impacts the algorithm of what is yet to come like I know this sounds quite bizarre when you think about it but I was yeah you know I was really looking at some of these Hadith that was showing that there is a dynamism with the interpretation not just just like there is the dream there is the symbology but there is the interpreting how the person's mindset perceives what they've been

shown impacts the outcome and the direction of what is to happen you know this kind of symbiotic relationship a Synergy so yeah I've kind of gone off on I know it sounds people are thinking what on Earth is uh they're saying well you know what m uh illness has definitely you know the covid got to but you know I'll expand on that on another time that got way too I think out there but but the the meaning of what I was trying to say the gist that

you can take away um is that whenever you have a dream that shakes you or scares you a bit always find for it the most incredibly even if it's outlandish positive interpretation in your own mind that you can it's better to just project positivity about any situation you're in a bad you're stuck in the rain waiting for a taxi think well ald oh 100% 100% small situation bigger things like that you mentioned it's better to just yeah yeah yeah yeah no 100% 100% And in the

dream sense I meant with whatever they've seen so like if a person's seen something terrible like they've seen that they've lost all of their money for example or they've seen the death of somebody or they've seen something that it could mean the death of something could mean the immortality of something the uh you know the so however you see it you could what I'm trying to say is just to find here that positive and in dreams it could be super you know drastically like you could because you can expand the positivity but in real life also like you said you know you've missed taxi you've lost a job but it could be that maybe this has

Allah has saved you from something you know that Rel times plenty of times in uh in my life I've experienced this where something negative happens I think oh my God this is the worst possible thing but later on come coming back it turns out to be a very good development in my in my life alhamdulillah so you know things Happ get into personal I don't want yeah no no I think that's that's amazing because whether whatever aspect of life it is you know there's always like you can always see something it it is it is not you know it's it's we projecting out

there through our Consciousness what how we interpret things so yeah you know there's a and I'll wrap this up on uh on being positive there's this this joke where the person says well you know he says to the person that he says he says hey uh how how how come you so down and you know why the long face and he says well you know he says well as you're aware I you know I I lost my job and I had a heart attack following that and no sorry I lost my job my wife left me and

because no job I'm lost the house you could say and I had a heart attack and and and the other guy says yeah but that was all yesterday why the long face today yeah true every day is a new start so it's all you know it's always a fresh start people it's always a fresh start but yeah there was a in light of that there was a poem I actually saw where the person

says you know but this is this is the whole thing that he says that my heart is sad but why is the world why is the whole city kind of being so you know like kind of like expressing size and but the hope but it came back to that same thing of you see projection is perception what you project is what you see that if you smile the whole world smiles back at you yeah this kind of happy go-lucky thing but right and I don't know if you guys had noticed but look despite the Continental differences right here the two screens look how well they blend into each other the the tiny

B in between it's it cannot stand between us look at the green the the color coordination the kind of background that you've got the see people the souls are connected the souls are connected right so you know what we'll wrap up I think uh I don't know what medication I think there may have been a strong content of uh ethanol in that medication that got to me with that but I hope that's been of some benefit I'll expand on it you know I'll expand on it to my uh always to my Discord group I'm doing their heads in

with whenever we have our kind of group group chat this is the I'll expand there for for you guys but this is you know it's a it's an interactive theory that I'm kind of transactional theory that I'm kind of working with for dream space and yeah I hope it's of some benefit other than that uh shukran people for you know for really joining us on this conversation and firstly and foremost shukran to you Allah bless you for me bless your efforts and you know bless your relationship and uh uh and your platform as well I will share the link

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